A focus group campaign plant or a professional undecided voter?
Update 10:50pm Eastern. Here’s an explanation, sort of, from Luntz. The focus group is an “anthropological” effort, says Luntz, in which members often are invited back if they’ve changed their minds. Still doesn’t answer how exactly they find these people and who they are.
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Free Republic posters and several other readers have sent along a video showing an “undecided” member of Frank Luntz’s focus groups who showed up at both the Sept. 5 New Hampshire debate and last night’s NH debate. Anyone recognize the dude? HA’s Bryan and Allah mull over accusations that one campaign or another planted the guy. BP: “He seems more like a Greg Packer figure if anything, a legitimate private citizen who turns up in the press because he sets out to do that on his own.” AP: “Some of the Freepers are wondering if he’s a “professional” focus group member…Obviously that would be a problem.”
Yep. I think Frank Luntz, not any of the campaigns, is the one who needs to answer the questions about who Mr. Undecided is–and how he managed to end up in both focus groups. Transparency about how all of the people in the room ended up there would be wise.
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Meanwhile, Hillary hires out-of-staters to pack rally.
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Water him; he’s a plant.
If he is a plant, some campaign is getting pretty desperate awfully early in the primaries. Sounds like a Clinton move to me.
“On January 7th, 2008 at 9:19 am, THIRDWAVEDAVE said:
Water him; he’s a plant.
…More like a weed……Yank him!!!!!!!!
To be honest – I have to question people who change their mind “positively” based on what a candidate SAYS in a debate. How about looking at what the candidate has DONE. I can see changing it “negatively” based on what someone says. During the campaign they all have SAID good things (even Ron Paul) – however, during all of their time in “responsible positions” (whether public service, elected office, or private enterprise), they all have DONE things which contradict what they are saying. Which do I believe? I believe what they DO, as opposed to what they SAY.
Hillperbole! For crying out loud, we’re 11 months out from the election and the media are panting like the dogs they are.
conservativesRus#4 Amen.
Sometimes, rarely but occassionally, the debates reveal something in one of the candidate’s past. If that news release, plus the way the candidate talks, is a revelation, it may be justified to change one’s opinion.
Take for instance, last night – I was shocked, shocked I tell you, as a Texan living relatively close to the Mexico border, to have my assumptions about McCain blown out of the water, when I heard him say HE had NEVER NEVER NEVER supported “AMNESTY” for ILLEGAL ALIENS.
(ok, ok, ok – /sarcasm! hehehehehe
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Malkin_Fan–I stand corrected.
These debates are becoming more entertaining and less informative.
Wither Paula Adbul, Simon Cowell and Randy Jackson?
Two words: manufactured controversy
American
IdolIdiot: Vote him out.You can trust Them to be Them:
Penn and Teller on Frank Luntz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9EWDB_zK4
Fed Up
Last night’s debate was the first one that I watched all the way through. I must be building up a tolerance to them.
Any day now I expect to see The Presidential Debates The complete FIRST season on DVD advertised. Rudy & Fred looked like they were embalmed, Huckleberry is clueless and McCain is a democrat who probably has Ted Kennedy on speed dial. Rommney is the only canidate left worth voting for. Go Mitt!
Well, he looks like a liberal. You know the type.. glasses, graying hair, the typical beard style(kind of Stalinish), drives a Volvo with old ‘Gore for president’, and Bush-hating bumper stickers. Follow him to his car.
Hate to sterotype, but until they get a new uniform, I just can’t help myself.
I don’t care for this Luntz guy. I think he enjoys his power way too much plus I do not trust him.
He does tend to sway a ‘focus’ group with his questions. Easy to do, just ask the questions you want to be made ‘important’ in a debate.
He can take a 90 minute debate and narrow it down to his perception of a 12 second spike in his ‘gameboy charts’ thus guiding viewers who won’t watch the debate/forum in its entirety.
Why doesn’t someone show the charts on Frankies appearances…they might be spiking way below 30% approval for him….
Who cares? Is it a slow news day or something?
Any predictions on what will happen when Shillary loses?
Think she’ll have a few heads?
Maybe she’ll disappear from the scene?
Think she’ll have a mental breakdown?
Think Bill will get the boot?
As to the reports of Hillary packing the audience, it is not too hard to imagine a Clinton doing something underhanded and devious. The only thing that would have made the moment perfect is if she had cackled “I am shocked, shocked to find that packing is going on in here!” (apologies to Casablanca’s Captain Renault).
YAWN!!! This is just another case of the Dem’s pointing out that “See…it’s the Republicans that have the plants! Yeah, they’re the ones! Yeah, THAT’S the ticket! (Apologies to Jon Levitz!)
Ron Paul supporters expose Frank Lutz.
“Fox’s official pollster Frank Luntz’s feathers were ruffled because a Paul supporter got into his focus group and taped the proceedings.”
http://firedoglake.com/2008/01/07/ron-paul-supporters-confront-frank-luntz/
Fed Up
He gives me the creeps. He looks like Dennis Rader, the BTK Killer.
Most of these wimps I’ve seen in focus groups by Fox or others seem like mind numb robots, or better yet leaves blowing in the wind. They are so shallow in their knowledge, convictions and purpose it scares me that people like this put presidents in power.
The fact that Ron Paul supporters have a problem with this tells me that there’s probably nothing to see here.
I know someone who took part in one of his groups. Unfortunately I’m still waiting to hear back from him to find out how he was chosen. He actually made it on TV during Fox and Friends bashing Huck about in-state tuition breaks for illegals. It was from a debate a while ago. I’ll keep anyone who’s interested posted.