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	<title>Comments on: McCain, Romney, and the pro-life, Catholic vote in Michigan</title>
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		<title>By: Azygos</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/09/mccain-romney-and-the-pro-life-catholic-vote-in-michigan/comment-page-1/#comment-218062</link>
		<dc:creator>Azygos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>uhangtight,
On Reagan

&lt;blockquote&gt;he lowered taxes but not spending&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My taxes went up $2800 a year under Reagan. He also redefined who was employed to mean anyone working two or more hours a week, since revised to &quot;Employed&quot; is anyone working one or more hours a week. Any mention of the unemployment rate is totally meaningless when you define employment is such terms.

Not trying to trash an otherwise great President.

Go Duncan or Fred, we need a true conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uhangtight,<br />
On Reagan</p>
<blockquote><p>he lowered taxes but not spending</p></blockquote>
<p>My taxes went up $2800 a year under Reagan. He also redefined who was employed to mean anyone working two or more hours a week, since revised to &#8220;Employed&#8221; is anyone working one or more hours a week. Any mention of the unemployment rate is totally meaningless when you define employment is such terms.</p>
<p>Not trying to trash an otherwise great President.</p>
<p>Go Duncan or Fred, we need a true conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: AlohaGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlohaGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Update: Ugh! &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The pizza will make you say &quot;Ugh!&quot; too.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Update: Ugh! </p></blockquote>
<p>The pizza will make you say &#8220;Ugh!&#8221; too.  <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dakine</title>
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		<dc:creator>dakine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debbie, my guess is that you consider anybody who doesn&#039;t agree with you on the issues you care about a &quot;nutjob&quot;.  Your demagoguery is pretty transparent...try a little intellectual honesty every once and again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie, my guess is that you consider anybody who doesn&#8217;t agree with you on the issues you care about a &#8220;nutjob&#8221;.  Your demagoguery is pretty transparent&#8230;try a little intellectual honesty every once and again.</p>
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		<title>By: uhangtight</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/09/mccain-romney-and-the-pro-life-catholic-vote-in-michigan/comment-page-1/#comment-214419</link>
		<dc:creator>uhangtight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*meant payroll taxes still increased not income taxes increased</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*meant payroll taxes still increased not income taxes increased</p>
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		<title>By: uhangtight</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/09/mccain-romney-and-the-pro-life-catholic-vote-in-michigan/comment-page-1/#comment-214379</link>
		<dc:creator>uhangtight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reagan gave us amensty, and yes he campaigned and believed in conservative values both fiscally and socially.  However, when serving as President, his record was not untarnished.  I voted for Reagan.  I enjoyed growing up in California when he was the governor.  

but let&#039;s not forget his record:

Supreme Court Judge - Sandra Day O&#039;Conner (voted on liberal side was a fence straddler on most issues.)But she was the first woman judge!! wow..

Supreme Court Judge - Kennedy.  another fence straddler.

he lowered taxes but not spending (blames dems, but income taxes still increased)National Debt was the buzz word remember? unemployement peaked at 9.7% in 82.. .wow.

we had the savings and loan crises

his war on drugs ??? just say no.. how about putting national guard on border to stop the flow??

and last but not least he gave us Amnesty in 1986 which is why we have the mess today.

I think Reagan was a great man and served his country well.  But lets be realistic: I want a President that can accomplish conservative as well as talk conservative.  Reagan tried but he was not always on the mark...

when a conservative has to deal with dem legislature their record does not always produce conservative results.  i agree, but don&#039;t tout Reagan&#039;s words and he the greatest conservative cause his actions didn&#039;t always produce conservative results, either.

not slamming just giving the record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reagan gave us amensty, and yes he campaigned and believed in conservative values both fiscally and socially.  However, when serving as President, his record was not untarnished.  I voted for Reagan.  I enjoyed growing up in California when he was the governor.  </p>
<p>but let&#8217;s not forget his record:</p>
<p>Supreme Court Judge &#8211; Sandra Day O&#8217;Conner (voted on liberal side was a fence straddler on most issues.)But she was the first woman judge!! wow..</p>
<p>Supreme Court Judge &#8211; Kennedy.  another fence straddler.</p>
<p>he lowered taxes but not spending (blames dems, but income taxes still increased)National Debt was the buzz word remember? unemployement peaked at 9.7% in 82.. .wow.</p>
<p>we had the savings and loan crises</p>
<p>his war on drugs ??? just say no.. how about putting national guard on border to stop the flow??</p>
<p>and last but not least he gave us Amnesty in 1986 which is why we have the mess today.</p>
<p>I think Reagan was a great man and served his country well.  But lets be realistic: I want a President that can accomplish conservative as well as talk conservative.  Reagan tried but he was not always on the mark&#8230;</p>
<p>when a conservative has to deal with dem legislature their record does not always produce conservative results.  i agree, but don&#8217;t tout Reagan&#8217;s words and he the greatest conservative cause his actions didn&#8217;t always produce conservative results, either.</p>
<p>not slamming just giving the record.</p>
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		<title>By: coldfront</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/09/mccain-romney-and-the-pro-life-catholic-vote-in-michigan/comment-page-1/#comment-214362</link>
		<dc:creator>coldfront</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tom Monaghan is certifiably insane. He wanted to build an all-glass church in Naples, Florida. St. Greenhouse of HOLY CRAP MY FACE IS MELTING OFF!  #13&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;LOL!! that&#039;s freakin&#039;hilarious!!&lt;/strong&gt;


Concerning &#039;Update: Ugh!&#039;  

  Fr.McDonough ( http://www.fathermcdonough.org/ )
once said something like this, as concerns real compassion towards an enemy. &lt;em&gt;&#039;If a man breaks into your home &amp; breaks your arm while robbing you, you are called to forgive &amp; pray for him, BUT you are not called to ever ask him back into your house.&#039;&lt;/em&gt;

As a devout Catholic, everything made sense after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tom Monaghan is certifiably insane. He wanted to build an all-glass church in Naples, Florida. St. Greenhouse of HOLY CRAP MY FACE IS MELTING OFF!  #13</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>LOL!! that&#8217;s freakin&#8217;hilarious!!</strong></p>
<p>Concerning &#8216;Update: Ugh!&#8217;  </p>
<p>  Fr.McDonough ( <a href="http://www.fathermcdonough.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.fathermcdonough.org/</a> )<br />
once said something like this, as concerns real compassion towards an enemy. <em>&#8216;If a man breaks into your home &amp; breaks your arm while robbing you, you are called to forgive &amp; pray for him, BUT you are not called to ever ask him back into your house.&#8217;</em></p>
<p>As a devout Catholic, everything made sense after that.</p>
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		<title>By: gandolphxx</title>
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		<dc:creator>gandolphxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Help me understand, do we want a leader who:

1. Matures and honestly changes positions and supports them based on time and experience like Rommney.

2. Has consistenly ignored the conservatives and needs of the people - against tax cuts, for invader amnesty and continues to oush those positions because &#039;McCain knows best&#039;

3. Wants us to forget his past and believe that he has changed by telling us that the past is a lie and didn&#039;t really happen and we don&#039;t understand - Huckster.

All things considered I like #1 best of that group and still hope Rudy has a shot because i will sleep safer and financially safer with either in the oval office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Help me understand, do we want a leader who:</p>
<p>1. Matures and honestly changes positions and supports them based on time and experience like Rommney.</p>
<p>2. Has consistenly ignored the conservatives and needs of the people &#8211; against tax cuts, for invader amnesty and continues to oush those positions because &#8216;McCain knows best&#8217;</p>
<p>3. Wants us to forget his past and believe that he has changed by telling us that the past is a lie and didn&#8217;t really happen and we don&#8217;t understand &#8211; Huckster.</p>
<p>All things considered I like #1 best of that group and still hope Rudy has a shot because i will sleep safer and financially safer with either in the oval office.</p>
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		<title>By: NBF</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/09/mccain-romney-and-the-pro-life-catholic-vote-in-michigan/comment-page-1/#comment-214314</link>
		<dc:creator>NBF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>National Right to Life has done their homework and they endorse &lt;strong&gt;Fred Thompson&lt;/strong&gt;.

Flip Flopney supporters seem to support him for the most shallow, superficial reasons, and put blinders on to his horrible, liberal record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>National Right to Life has done their homework and they endorse <strong>Fred Thompson</strong>.</p>
<p>Flip Flopney supporters seem to support him for the most shallow, superficial reasons, and put blinders on to his horrible, liberal record.</p>
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		<title>By: MrVIBEMAN</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/09/mccain-romney-and-the-pro-life-catholic-vote-in-michigan/comment-page-1/#comment-214265</link>
		<dc:creator>MrVIBEMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All these lies and this backbiting coming from our &#039;party of values&#039; is putting them on the same level as their liberal counterparts.

*sigh*

I know every Republican candidate out there wants to compare themselves to Ronal Reagan...BE the next Ronald Reagan, but NONE of these wanna&#039;be&#039;s could hold a candle to him. I&#039;m only realizing now just how lucky we were to have him. He was truly a straight shooter with integrity. He seldom cared about the direction the wind was blowing, he stuck to his morals and principles. (the same characteristic that &lt;em&gt;doesn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; work for Bush.)

He would roll over in his grave if he saw the candidates we have now. In his day most of these Republican candidate would have been Democrat candidates.

*double sigh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these lies and this backbiting coming from our &#8216;party of values&#8217; is putting them on the same level as their liberal counterparts.</p>
<p>*sigh*</p>
<p>I know every Republican candidate out there wants to compare themselves to Ronal Reagan&#8230;BE the next Ronald Reagan, but NONE of these wanna&#8217;be&#8217;s could hold a candle to him. I&#8217;m only realizing now just how lucky we were to have him. He was truly a straight shooter with integrity. He seldom cared about the direction the wind was blowing, he stuck to his morals and principles. (the same characteristic that <em>doesn&#8217;t</em> work for Bush.)</p>
<p>He would roll over in his grave if he saw the candidates we have now. In his day most of these Republican candidate would have been Democrat candidates.</p>
<p>*double sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: deepdiver</title>
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		<dc:creator>deepdiver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And in the interest of fair and balanced coverage, here’s video of Romney from 1994 on abortion, gays in the Boy Scouts, &lt;strong&gt;gun control&lt;/strong&gt;, and other issues&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Am I just missing it or is gun control not actually addressed in the video?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And in the interest of fair and balanced coverage, here’s video of Romney from 1994 on abortion, gays in the Boy Scouts, <strong>gun control</strong>, and other issues</p></blockquote>
<p>Am I just missing it or is gun control not actually addressed in the video?</p>
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		<title>By: Boomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL John McCain trying to pass himself off as a pro-life candidate.  What is he going to do next?  Declare he was never for amnesty……Whoops never mind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL John McCain trying to pass himself off as a pro-life candidate.  What is he going to do next?  Declare he was never for amnesty……Whoops never mind!</p>
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		<title>By: Ordinary Coloradan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ordinary Coloradan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ombre Rose - sorry, not going to let your lie stand. 

McCain is terrible on the border, has treated MIA terribly (in cahoots with Kerry!) and he is the one that hasn&#039;t backed down in CFR.  But like Romney he lies and tries to flip flop.  

Contrary to your lie, Thompson HAS reconsidered his support of McCain Feingold, going os far as to say we should scrap all the laws, and just require strict reporting and full and immediate disclosre of all donations and contributors.  

And FYI, that was in a radio interview back in APRIL.  So why are you so stubbornly and stupidly ignorant? And the use of &quot;butt buddy&quot; tells us plenty about where your head is, low class and stupid.

So stop pushing Multiple Choice Mitt - king of the flip floppers.  He is LYING to you again. He&#039;s just another one of the big-biz crowd, the Country Club Republicans that will say anything to grab power. And he&#039;s got rubes like you completely fooled.  Congrats for setting the bar for gullibility.

Bottom line: Romney is a fake.  Thats why he has yet to win a meaningful primary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ombre Rose &#8211; sorry, not going to let your lie stand. </p>
<p>McCain is terrible on the border, has treated MIA terribly (in cahoots with Kerry!) and he is the one that hasn&#8217;t backed down in CFR.  But like Romney he lies and tries to flip flop.  </p>
<p>Contrary to your lie, Thompson HAS reconsidered his support of McCain Feingold, going os far as to say we should scrap all the laws, and just require strict reporting and full and immediate disclosre of all donations and contributors.  </p>
<p>And FYI, that was in a radio interview back in APRIL.  So why are you so stubbornly and stupidly ignorant? And the use of &#8220;butt buddy&#8221; tells us plenty about where your head is, low class and stupid.</p>
<p>So stop pushing Multiple Choice Mitt &#8211; king of the flip floppers.  He is LYING to you again. He&#8217;s just another one of the big-biz crowd, the Country Club Republicans that will say anything to grab power. And he&#8217;s got rubes like you completely fooled.  Congrats for setting the bar for gullibility.</p>
<p>Bottom line: Romney is a fake.  Thats why he has yet to win a meaningful primary.</p>
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		<title>By: McCain, Romney, y el voto catolico contra el aborto en Michigan &#171; NUEVA EUROPA</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/09/mccain-romney-and-the-pro-life-catholic-vote-in-michigan/comment-page-1/#comment-214180</link>
		<dc:creator>McCain, Romney, y el voto catolico contra el aborto en Michigan &#171; NUEVA EUROPA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The presidential campaign now heads to Michigan with Iowa and New Hampshire in the rear view mirror ... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The presidential campaign now heads to Michigan with Iowa and New Hampshire in the rear view mirror &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rhymes With Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhymes With Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Romney Pulls Back In Florida, SC...&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;ve not detected any desperation in the Romney campaign prior to this move. Is it a concession that he is unable to win in either of the two big southern states rich in delegates? Or is it simply a move......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Romney Pulls Back In Florida, SC&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not detected any desperation in the Romney campaign prior to this move. Is it a concession that he is unable to win in either of the two big southern states rich in delegates? Or is it simply a move&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ombre Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ombre Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget McCain-Kennedy, either!
And the McCain &quot;anti-torture&quot; bill he slapped our military boys with, while aidinghte Liberals in creating scandals of Abu Ghraib and Gitmo!
Boy, does he bleed for the terrorists.

History of yelling at and pushing family members of MIAS and POWS at Congress trying to get something done for their family members in Vietnam - and was the first to greet the Vietcong leader to Congress in late &#039;90&#039;s, and did so with a humongous HUG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget McCain-Kennedy, either!<br />
And the McCain &#8220;anti-torture&#8221; bill he slapped our military boys with, while aidinghte Liberals in creating scandals of Abu Ghraib and Gitmo!<br />
Boy, does he bleed for the terrorists.</p>
<p>History of yelling at and pushing family members of MIAS and POWS at Congress trying to get something done for their family members in Vietnam &#8211; and was the first to greet the Vietcong leader to Congress in late &#8217;90&#8217;s, and did so with a humongous HUG.</p>
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