Choose or lose? A look at two possible GOP ticket pairings
In case you missed all the fun last night, my liveblogging of the SC GOP debate is here. Reader Rick e-mailed his reaction to the debate and disagrees with my assessment of Mitt Romney’s performance (I thought it was lackluster).
I love your work. You are one of my favorites, but I didn’t see Romney as the big loser at all. I saw Huckabee struggle with a few of his liberal positions and McCain still refuses to admit he was wrong pertaining to amnesty and that he has now CHANGED to a border-first mentality. I agree Romney doesn’t come with the jovial personality as does Huckabee, but his answers on economics and foreign policy were extremely good. I give Fred Thompson the victory tonight because for once he brought his A game. I do agree Romney has lost the front-runner status and the field is wide open. They all made some good points tonight, but Go Mitt!!
Rick sends these two photos from the debate…
…and asks:
You know the saying “Birds of a feather flock together”? I pulled these pictures off the internet. These candidates might have been standing next to each other on the stage, but these groupings are very interesting to me. I see two teams forming out there. A moderate McCain/Huckabee ticket vs. the conservative Romney/Thompson ticket.
If these were the choices, which GOP ticket would you prefer?
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Did you get some rest?
I know. All this posting seems like someone got no sleep.
Back on topic. Either variation of Romney/Thompson would work for me. They even look good together.
McCain and Huck the picture just looks like a promo for bad movie. They Came To Destroy Conservatism.
Ha! thats funny.
None of the above.
Thompson/Hunter is a better choice in my opinion.
Thanks for the coverage Michelle. From what I watched last night Fred won. If we had complete tickets to vote for I would go with Thompson/Romney.
Either way Thompson/Romney or Romney Thompson, But McCain and Huck MUST go away…
Re: Poll #2
Prediction:
Paul-nut won’t drop out. No way. He’ll milk the mainstream campaign ’till the end then run as an independent.
Unfortunately, too many potential Republican voters are taken in by his crazy, yet hypnotic nuttiness. He will become the Ross Perot of 2008.
Libertarian leanings can be a good thing, but the Paulian (lack of) foreign policy hasn’t been a workable model since 1823. It’s completely unrealistic in the modern world.
I agree with you mojojo. There is no way Paul will drop out. The men in the white coats will have to take him away first.
Well? Looks like a Thompson/Romney ticket.
I would prefer if Hunter was in place of Romney.
I agree with some folks here…Ron Paul will still be campaigning in 2010
#7, #8-
I don’t know about that. Doctor Paul did get 32% results as winning debate in the Fox text poll. They are making it a big deal about it over at ron paul forum. And all the while being harshly critical of Fox News for the way Fox minions treated crazy uncle paul.
I think he and Huckleberry are better fits on the other side of the aisle. Huck is tax and spend and Paul is just far left moonbat in blaming America for everything. We are already in a recession Paul? And NEA endorses Huck?
Such narrow minded thinking offered up Michelle. Picking from one of the anointed choices isn’t much of a choice. It’s just more of the same constitutional deconstruction in sheep’s clothing.
The Fox text poll means nothing to the American voter. Nothing at all except to Paulies who stuffed the ballot box as no one else bothered to text and wnet to bed. That is why the numbers were so skewed. I laughed when I saw the results.
Actually, many polls are so wrong that I don’t set a lot of truth on many of them.
Good morning, Michelle. A Thompson/Romney pairing would be a very interesting one. Fred Thompson is the man with ideas, and Mitt Romney, for all his flip-flops, is someone who gets things done (not that all of the things he’s done are agreeable to me - cough - MassHillaryCare - cough). Less-interesting is a Romney/Thompson one (mainly because of the flip-flops on Romney’s end).
Essentially unacceptable is either version of the McCain/Huckabee ticket; excepting Ron Paul, the only thing worse would be a Giuliani/Huckabee (or Huckabee/Giuliani) duo, which would represent a desperate, failing attempt to keep the Reagan Coalition togethery.
As for who is out next, I was actually surprised when Duncan Hunter said he would be soldiering on. Sooner or later, and almost certainly sooner, the reality that he never caught on with more than 3% of the Republican base will crash in on him.
I do not get why a few people said that Rudy Giuliani would be the next one out. His entire strategy has been premised on Super-Duper Tuesday, and that is 25 days away.
Might we all at least agree Huck has to go?
Please?
Caption for the McCain and Huck picture
CHOOSE AND LOSE!!
Thompson/Hunter is the only possible choice of the group. They are the only two conservatives for conservatives.
The others have learned to talk the talk yet they wouldn’t know how to take the first step of walking the walk.
Fred has provided the same consistent message all along. Therefore, if he’s been offering the same value and you haven’t caught on then it is your lack of knowledge and certainly not his performance.
#14
Total agreement…Huck HAS to go.
My skin crawls when I watch him obfuscate.
I’m tellin’ you the “Reverse Gonzo” ticket of Thompson Hunter is the winner.
Why is it that everytime I see or hear Ron Paul that I think of Earnest T. Bass?
As Barney always said about Earnest T.: “He’s a nut.”
I love these candidates that get an “epiphany” after they come under a little fire for what they did or how they voted while in office. I am much more interested in what they did while they had the chance to make a difference. We need a winner and a doer to beat the whiners and blamers on the other side.
Thanks Michelle for covering this event and for your outstanding analysis. I couldn’t stand to watch it last night and am sorry than I missed Fred’s performance. I’m a little miffed at Fox News for not allowing Duncan Hunter a place on the podium and their tabloid take on the news lately so I checked off last night to watch a movie with the wife instead. From what I observed catching up with everything Thompson did very well. I only hope it is enough to start some real momentum for him. The only other front runner I could stomach would be Romney the rest of the field at the debate I just don’t trust to lead this country anywhere but down the drain.
I’ll take Thompson/Romney for $1,000 Alex.
If McCain is even on the ticket, I’ll be sittimg home watching the returns come on for president-elect Clinton.
I would like to see a Thompson/Hunter ticket. Maybe Hunter is staying in for a VP nomination. He isn’t catching on as a presidential candidate, but he also isn’t polarizing. He is gaining name recognition and is respected on some key issues. I could live with and vote for a Thompson/Romney ticket.
McCain and Huckabee, paired in any way, are unelectable. Look at the consistent comments around the conservative web and at the polls. Together they may be able to pull half the GOP vote, but most of the other half will stay home, write in a different candidate, vote third party or just leave it blank. Their liberal views will pull a few moderate dems but not enough to counter the huge numbers of disheartened GOP faithful. The dems would have to do something so outrageous, even for them, that it galvanized and invigorated the GOP for McCain or Huckabee to win nationally. And then, half the base is still going to be voting against the dems rather than for the GOP.
The only good thing about McCain and Huckabee is that they probably will not try to take away our existing guns or 2nd Amendment rights to get new ones. Which is a good thing. Because by the time they are done we’ll need them to protect ourselves from illegals and terrorists.
#10
I hope you’re being humorous when you site the fact that Paul had a high Fox text poll number. We have seen first hand on this blog what his Paulbots do to polls.
Funny, my talk radio station is playing a Paul spot right now. When he talks about receiving more financial support from the military than any other candidate, I sincerely doubt it. I also doubt that the members of the “military industrial complex” take too kindly to those comments. I know my husband doesn’t. Not to mention the fact that he wants us out of Iraq now and the majority of military members want to fight and win this war.
We’re heading in the same direction as 1992. Perot got close to 20% of the vote but got no electoral votes. Easily, 95% of those Perot votes would have been for Bush 41. Thanks to Perot, the U.S. got saddled with it’s worst president ever.
Paul is close to doing the same thing. I’m not saying he’ll get 20% of the vote, but seeing how close the last two presidential elections have been, even a 5% vote for Paul could lose the election for a good Republican ticket (Thompson/Hunter - Thompson/Romney - Romney/Thompson).
The big advantage here is that there is no incumbent. Bush 41 wasn’t about to give Perot a cabinet post; he already had his “posse.” But that’s not true now. I certainly don’t know what cabinet post Paul would demand to drop out and support one of the other candidates but getting him out is imperative if we don’t another Clinton presidency.
I prefer the Thompson / Romney ticket…
As long as Fred keeps the fire in his belly - he’s impressive…
What’s bothered me is his ‘tortoise’ approach to this election… It’s rare that you see from him a true indication that he wants to be President.
Thompson/Romney (or the other way around) would be a better choice IMO than a Thompson/Hunter ticket, because so much of America votes on name recognition alone and unfortunatley Duncan has none. But Duncon Hunter in charge of homeland security in a Thompson/Romney administration has a lot of appeal.
The question was “Who will drop out” not “Who should drop out.” At this point there are two considerations in deciding whether to stay in: 1) money, 2) the prospect of getting a VP slot or Cabinet post.
Hunter stated he is staying in so I accept that. My preference would be Paul going away but that won’t happen.
Rudy would make a good Attorney General but the Democrats would drag out so much baggage, like Bernie Kerick, the hearings would be a nightmare for a new administration. He is more likely to get the Presidency than a Cabinet post. If he doesn’t break out I expect him to fold.
The real surprise was on the Democrat side with Richardson dropping out. Does anyone have more on that decision?
#15 I LOVE IT! Choose and lose. hahahahahaha.
Thompson Romney/Romney Thompson….
BARF…Thbththbhtbbt! (courtesy of Bill Watterson-Calvin and Hobbes)
Really, when is the programmatic anointment crap going to end? “These gentlemen fit the prescribed GOP qualities: stature, experience, private sector wealth, sound good, look good…blah, blah, blah.
From everything I’ve seen, read and heard all these front-runners are offering the same prescriptions. Nothing is different, especially when you consider that ALL THEIR RECORDS confirm and codify what the do in practice. Their walk doesn’t align with their current JIVE TALK. THINK ABOUT IT!
Many are missing the obvious (so it may escape the GOP leadership as well).
A VP is nominated to compliment the strengths of the Prez. And you have to be able to keep your ego in check. Do you think Huckafraud is going to play second fiddle to McCain?
McCain’s popular with independents, but unpopular with his own party for a wide variety of reasons. He should pick a solid conservative like Hunter as a VP choice to shore those up. But McCain’s Catholic, so he may need some good-ol’ Southerner to partner up with him. And that would be Huckabee.
Now, hold a convention if you will for McCain/Huckabee, but wherever you hold it, it will be assaulted by Conservatives carrying torches.
Besides, McCain ALWAYS wins NH. He won it in 2000. He goes there all the time. People like him. In fact, he should move there and run for governor.
Romney’s biggest problems are a lack of Federal experience and a flip-flopping on abortion in the past. He’s also perceived soft on immigration. So, he needs a solidly pro-life, anti-amnesty guy as VP, and that’s Tancredo or Hunter.
Fred! has more conservative credentials, but again, he’s aloof. He needs someone young, an Edwards of his own, so to speak. I don’t think he’d pick Hunter or Tancredo as a running mate, and I don’t think Mitt will consent to being Fred!’s VP. Bobby Jindal would be a better pick, as he’s young, non-white, smart, conservative, and someone who needs exposure. Youth should lead the Fred! ticket, which breaks my heart because I’m a Hunter guy. I’d love to see Thompson Hunter, but seriously, can you imagine two old white men in a race against Obama/#2? The MSM would go nuts.
Rudy? Rudy’s all but out. He’s been finishing behind everyone (even Ron Paul!) on everything but national polls, and even there he’s slipping. He should pull out now and see where his support goes. For with that support goes the nomination.
So, for what it’s worth, here’s the P/VP pairings from Doc.
Romney/Hunter
Thompson/Jindal
McCain/Lieberman
Huckabee/Jesus
Did I say Jesus? I meant Hunter or Tancredo. But I think those two would not stomach such a pairing.
#14 Agreed. Shuck the Huck but please don’t pass the buck to the next schmuck.
Thompson/Romney…..has a nice ring to it…looks good together…experience and youth together…IIIIIIIIIIII LIKE IT!!!
He came in behind Huckabee in New Hampshire. If a north-eastern liberal Republican can’t beat a southern Bible-thumping minister in a north-eastern state, something is wrong.
Romney/Thompson 08!
In the electoral vote in the general election, what states would Fred/Mitt take?
Hillary is not going to take the big “O” as VP.She will take a VP candidate from south of the Mason Dixon line. We need someone that can take high voter states north of the Mason Dixon away from a Hillary ticket.
Was Romney actually picking on Ron Paul last night? Reminded me of a rich kid with bad jokes. He mentioned healthcare for all and stopping the housing crisis?
Thompson woke everyone up when he tallied off Huckabee’s past record and kept it non personal. Looked pretty tough all night.
Paul got the best of Huckabee during their scuffle about foreign policy. Ron’s got great domestic ideas, but his foreign policy kills him.
McCain looked ok, but I am still mad at him because he won’t get me a job picking lettuce for $50/hour.
Giuliani - biggest tax cut ever, surely interesting but not a vote getter.
Huckabee talked about switching to the fair tax. Anyone have a laymans site for it?
their tie’s even match in both pictures….
Cadman - Fair Tax=national sales tax23%in my case add 8% state and local real BAD for people on SS great for the rich.
Pauls foreign policy is simple. Protect the border, not every other country in the world. He makes sense on Israel. They are a sovereign nation and should be free to do what they think is best to defend themselves. He is consistant saying the US is not the world’s policeman, and eventually our efforts to do wo will bancrupt the country. Unfortunately the other candidates failed to counter and of his points. I think many would let our relationship with Israel put us into a world war.
Jimmy CarterMike Huckabee should resign for the good of the Republican Party and the good of the country.I believe that we need to present a candidate who can capture the imagination the younger, independent voters. They seem to be the swing voters this time around and I’m afraid that their hatred of Bush and this war are going to make it very difficult for a conservative to win.
Therefore, I submit for nomination, the ticket of ajmontana and desertlover.
Both drive right of the centerline, except for after the superbowl.
Both know how to build a fence.
Desertlover is a former Marine.
AJ knows all about women’s dresses.
and, most importantly,
Neither have been Tazed !!!
I am with the Thompson/Romney group, but worry that this picture looks too much like the Bush/Cheney pics. Young, well-groomed dark-haired Pres and older, paunchy, *wiser-looking* Veep.
I think the comparisons will inevitably be made, and that this will hurt them as a running team.
I’d go for it. Especially if we could get trinitytim to head the Department of Homeland Security!
lol trinity time but sorry that job doesnt pay enough….
opps, tim.
Doc #31, I don’t follow your McCain/Lieberman pairing. I believe, as #23 has pointed out, McCain is simply not electable within his own party; he has just enough high negatives to prevent him from winning. What I don’t know though, would enough Dems defect to that ticket over their own pick; I personally doubt it.
#39, so why should social security people get to coast? I work for myself, pay my own costs and save for my retirement. I have no illusion of counting on SS for anything because so much is being paid out NOW for people to coast along.
You can take out what you put in and that’s all. The current ponzi scheme is unfair and a rip-off. Playing the class warfare theme about how the rich benefit more is ludicrous. Of course they benefit. They already have lots of money. Taking more from them may make you feel better, believing that the playing field is being evened-up, but what does it accomplish? Nothing. You’re living your life by someone else’s standard; deriving your happiness not from your own bliss but by measuring how other’s can live and do with what they’ve earned.
FAIR is FAIR…and by the way, life ain’t fair. It’s ours to embrace, breath in and enjoy to its fullest and doesn’t require any money to achieve.
I think Pauls a nut, but when he says the US is broke, (9 plus trillion in debt with a 48 million dollar unfunded liability), how can anyone argue with that? And what solution has been offered to this “little” problem by any of the others?
#41 Errr. CORRECTION. There is no such thing as a FORMER MARINE. Once a Marine, always a Marine. Hooraaa.
Sorry, make that 48 trillion in unfunded liabilities. Millions are chicken feed in US government money talk.
#48 Sure, Ron Paul is a nut and the rest of the system are sane and content to continue down the current path: global military presence, escalating military spending, weapons in space, continued eroding US manufacturing base, large business consolidation, media consolidation, increasing prices for fuel (we have 21st technology-PCs, lasers, integrated circuits all of which are powered by 200 year old technology fossil fuel).
Sure, he’s a nut but what are we to continue what we’ve been doing?
Thompson and Romney in either order would be a very strong ticket in my opinion, and one I could easily get behind.
I have to agree with the caveat that former Marines are those that are thrown out in disgrace or crapweasels like Murtha.
To all the life takers and heartbreakers out there Semper Fi!
Thompson/Romney, with Tancredo running Homeland Security.
But never, ever McStain.
I decided long before Thompson got into the race (my decision was in july mabye even late june), that my best ticket for the GOP was going to be a Romney/Thompson ticket.
My thinking? Hillary was going to win the Dem. She would have to constantly look up to our GOP candidate (Romney’s Tall) and when she picked her VP that person was not going to be tall and I felt it would be Richardson. Richardson would have to look up to Thompson. The visual would be a tremendous influence on people. Very Presidential for GOP and not so for the Dems.
I felt that Thompson was too old looking for the presidential but just right for a VP. Visual is what sells on camera.
Then of course I am a conservative, I felt Thompson could get the south and Romney should be able to get some Northern States. I also believed that these were the two most conservative and presidential of the group.
But, I saw them shake hands before going to break and I have to say, I am hoping that it is more than just a hand shake but an alliance. This was right after Thompson fired it into the liberal Huckster. Let Thompson (VP) to the negative.. that is what I say..
I am fired up! I was planning on the Romney/Thompson duo since July!!! YEA!
McCain/Lieberman would be a very interesting ticket, but I don’t see any way it’s possible except as 3rd party.
I also can’t see McCain or Romney accepting a veep nomination. I really can’t see Romney accepting one under Thompson. The other way around, maybe, but neither McCain or Romney are in this for second place.
On January 11th, 2008 at 11:50 am, realitycheck said:
Thompson/Romney, with Tancredo running Homeland Security.
THat would be a great trifecta.
Radiojoe1470 is your last name Roppe?
Everyone who likes Romney and Thompson needs to read this and this.
In the Heartland and other rural areas, another one of his biggest problems is that he is soft on 2nd Amendment issues.
Ron Paul is typical of Libertarians of the last two decades. While I love many of the concepts, they always put up some whack job who’s other half of the platform is something I can’t even begin to support.
I would like to see Thompson/Romney - elder statesman with younger private sector executive learning the national governmental ropes, and if something did happen to Thompson, health related or otherwise, Romney is both young enough and capable of stepping into the presidency and maintaining the direction set by Thompson … 8 years Thompson/Romney followed by 8 years of Romney/?
Huh…imagine that…trols like short little troll candidates. Whodda thunk?
No feeding trolls.
I’m curious. How many Fred-heads think he’d accept veep?
#59 No. Why?
Because only a liberal would want a McCain/lieberman ticket.
Geez. I said it would be interesting. How is that an endorsement?
The thing is here that Michelle probably overlooked is that the Thompson/Romney ticket wouldn’t go too well with Mitt since it was he who spent the most money (even his own) to go for the uno numero spot in the race…the U.S. president. He’d be more happy to go with a Romney/Thompson ticket. A matter of Mormon pride I suppose?
“Thompson/Hunter is a better choice in my opinion.”
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Perfect!
Thompson/Romney…what the hell was that gal in the focus group last night saying when she thought Fred’s performance was a little too late? Isn’t the election almost a year away???
Fred is finally showing America that he is the ONLY real conservative, and isn’t that what we’ve all been asking for? Seems that I remember after the 2006 election debacle everyone saying that conservatives didn’t abandon the Republican party, the Republicans deserted the conservatives. Well… here’s our chance to get behind a TRUE conservative, and we need to be backing Fred Thompson.
I have to admit, I read through the comments first, then logged in and took the survey… and throughout, I wondered: “Who th’ hell is Duncan Hunter?”
Guess Thompson’s got somethin’ going for him, at least!
Why throw the Religous card?
‘zactly right!
While Thompson’s entry was panned in the blogosphere and MSM as too little too late it’s not necessarily true. If he can establish/maintain a solid platform and get his word out he will succeed.
Here’s a scenario I think would play well, and not just here.
Thompson convinces Hunter that his best chance of becoming President is to spend eight years as Veep. Then they begin to campaign immediately as Thompson/Hunter.
It does several things. It presents to primary voters a clear choice between them and McCain or Romney, and sends the message that they are ready to hit the ground running when elected. It shows voters that Fred is very serious about the campaign, and Hunter’s presence also draws in many Huckabee supporters.
I stand corrected
No excuse, just an ole Big Red One vet who only worked with the Marines for a few weeks north of An Loc in ‘69.
I do Love em all though.
McCain/Huckabee?? — Quelle nightmare. That’s when I think seriously about Canadian citizenship.
Romney/Thompson — I like. Maybe their weaknesses would cancel each other out. I like the flavor of economic experience meets fearless national security with a hint of north/south. Could I vote for that at the primary instead of just one??
I’d prefer Romney/Thompson for the sole reason that the VP is generally the Washington insider who can make plays in the background while the President is always out in public making speeches and pushing for his policies.
Romney has a much better marketing ability than Thompson, while Thompson knows the Washington ropes. Knowing the Washington ropes doesn’t help you that much when you’ll be spending most of your time making trips and giving stump speeches all over the country, as well as travelling to different parts of the world for various conferences.
Fred also has the same kind of Johhny Mac flippancy, whereas Romney has an even keel pretty much all the time. While I think the idea of kick-butt action hero Fred is a laughable scene out of slapstick comedy, Fredheads seem to think he’s Jack Bauer.
Jack Bauer would not make a good president.
That is correct with exception of Murtha I held a vote to expel him as a Marine, the count was 1 for and 0 against.
One more correction that’s “Uhra” meaning kill in Turkish.
One thing no one needs to worry about is any of the candidates tapping Huckabee as a running mate. He simply brings too much baggage with him. Veeps are chosen for their appeal to some interest group, (see Geraldine Ferarro)which Huckabee would, but they can’t have anything about them that the head of the ticket would have to answer for.
And you all don’t need me to tell you that Huckabee definitely has that.
Romney-Thompson 2008 all the way!!!
#26 jrlingreenbay–
With all due respect, that’s what we like about teh Fred! You want someone who wants to be President so bad you can see their teeth aching for it and you know there’s nothing they won’t do or say to get it, well, Romney, Shuckabee, and Hizzoner are right there.
Did George Washington really want to be President?* Fred is offering to serve the Republic. See the difference?
No, Jack Bauer wouldn’t make a good President. He wouldn’t make a good Fred!, either. In his heart, General Zod knows he is not fit to kneel before Fred!
*Okay, before everybody goes and gets wrapped around the axle, nobody, not even teh Fred!, is George Washington.
How’s this?
Thompson/Romney ticket
Hunter = Dept of Defense
Tancredo = Dept of Homeland Security
No way is Rudy out or near it. It seems that way to wonks like us, but the vast majority of the country is hearing this info like they normally do - as a mere footnote to their daily lives. Is Giuliani’s political accumen up to the standard of his executive skill? That remains to be seen; he’s playing the game as a hare when the turtles are the ones doing pretty well so far. But come Florida, if he does well, his entire situation changes. And it might - might - be an amazingly shrewd move. Huckabbe was big a week ago, now he’s hugely diminished. McCain was written off a week ago, today he’s the national frontrunner. No coronations are being bestowed by these initial primaries. Rudy didn’t have a chance in these first couple of states. If he wins in those places that heavily favor him, then he’s way out ahead of everyone again. If he loses, it doesn’t nmatter anyway because he wouldn’t have carried these states. That’s the kind of practical thinking I personally admire, though it takes guts to play the game like that, and forge ahead during the opening moments of the glamor show. The key is how much momentum the candidates are getting from the general public in this very early stage. It looks like alot to us because we’re all watching this like the Super Bowl. But Huckabees reversal and Romney potentially sinking fast as well as McCain’s surge shows this is as fluid as a river. One big win and it becomes McCain vs Giuliani - where before Rudy’s closest rival was Romney.
I can’t say much for Paul’s chances, but everyone else is firmly in the game, even Fred, though Romney is starting to lose his must-wins at the bginning of the game, and so things are beginning to look a little dispiriting for him.
Rudy, McCain, Huckabee, Fred and Romney are all still at least 80% in the gamer, and that’s easily enough for any one of them to wind up being the nominee.
Geez … I’m offline all day and get here to start catching up and find trinitytim
is trying to draft me and aj … 
… now that would be a real special ticket all right … and thanks meatpieandtatters and Boomer for the clarification to my buddy Tim regarding my Marine status …
Blind_Mule … I agree …. Murtha needs a good old fashioned blanket party and an attitude adjustment …
There are plenty of good people on this site that have served … and I would go to war with any of you …
DesertLover
SSgt, USMC
1964-1974
Fred and Newt would be a hoot.
Works for me!
A Thompson/Hunter would rock and I could get excited about a Thompson/Jindal ticket. But Mitt? NO WAY! I bought a ticket to Iowa to volunteer for Fred. And, prior to my first taste of front line politics, started out with a generally positive impression of Romney and probably would have felt good with a Thompson/Romney pairing. However, the sleazy tactics and dishonest attacks I saw in Iowa were coming out of the Romney campaign (and Politico, but I can’t say if that was directed from Mitt HQ). If his campaign is dirty, then the man is dirty in my book.
I STILL so don’t get it when those who hate McCain have such love for Fred! It’s like they are so fascinated with the CHARACTER on Law and Order, they don’t KNOW who Fred, the guy behind the curtain, really is - they are voting for the strange wizard with the deep voice out front.
Of those most likely to be the next pull out - FRED - so he can throw his voters and support to McCain, in a VAIN ATTEMPT to save McCain’s candidacy - since drafting for McCain is the only reason he is in this race!
Myself, wild horses could not drag me to vote for ANY ticket that contains ANY ONE of these guys in EITHER POSITION - NO MATTER WHAT:
McCain, Huckabee, Rudi, Fred, Sam Brownback, and or a number of other RINOS who would definitely increase the LEFT LEANING of these men and their work in DC.
I will only consider Duncan Hunter, Tom Tancredo, AND POSSIBLY Mitt Romney MAYBE/not PROBABLY, of those who have officially been candidates.
I’d love to vote for the likes of Oliver North, Franklin Graham, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin - who is too young, yet, maybe Tom McClintock, maybe Jim DeMint…Maybe David Limbaugh, maybe Michael Reagan…
BTW, have any of you guys received an e-mail titled “WEAR BLUE”? If you have and have not yet opened it, among the thousands of “chain-mail pass-alongs, OPEN THIS ONE!
I see Fred still doing exactly what he did in the Senate - serving McCain and the Clintons, nothing more, nothing better.
Check with Ann Coulter, George Will,
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/JamesBoppJr/2007/09/21/%e2%80%9cplain-speaking%e2%80%9d_about_mccain-feingold-thompson
“Plain-Speaking” About McCain-Feingold-Thompson
By James Bopp, Jr.
Friday, September 21, 2007
etc, etc, etc
“Too little too late” which if you have been watching is a constant refrain about Fred in ALL the focus groups, is a complaint that a man who isn’t giving more energy to his CAMPAIGN is PROVING to the VOTERS that he doesn’t have, or POSSESS the required basic amount of energy level for all that is required of a President, through the long haul and high job performance skills required.
The job isn’t like his Hollywood jobs - “hurry up and wait”.
It isn’t just the lack of attention to the campaign - it is the lackluster interest he shows when he BOTHERS to show up.
Most people aren’t digging into his background and are fooled about what he is doing IN THE RACE - drafting for McCain, his long-time butt buddy, for whom he managed his 2000 Presidential bid.
They are ignoring warning signs like his own direct and SIGNIFICANT input into McCain-Feingold-THOMPSON,
the vote that spared Bill Clinton from removal from office together with the chairmanship of the Senate Committee assigned to investigate the CHINESE CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS to the CLINTON Campaign funds which he deliberately turned into a fiasco, to save the DIMS from embarrassment, AND A VERY GREAT DEAL MORE,
including but not limited to his DEAD SILENCE on the SHAMNESTY BILL his best butt buddy co-authored with Toady Chappaquiddick Kennedy, AND HIS POINT BLANK STEADFAST REFUSAL TO ALLOW ANY NEWS HOST TO DRAW HIM INTO COMMENTS LAST SPRING ON THAT ISSUE, on the flimsiest and most self-serving of gross excuses - NO PATRIOT WOULD KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT WHEN THE NATION NEEDED HIS PATRIOTIC INFLUENCE AND A CLEAR MESSAGE ON PRECISELY WHERE HE STOOD ON THE MATTER - how convenient to NOW voice his “opinion” when the nation has already made it perfectly clear where the ONLY VIABLE OPINION has been made CLEAR - FROM A FORMER PROSECUTING ATTORNEY??? I ain’t buying that balderdash he was selling to Sean Hannity about WHY HE COULD NOT SPEAK ON THAT ISSUE LAST YEAR!
He has shown with such issues as Clinton’s campaign tactics i.e. Chinese donations, PERJURY, HIS SLANDER OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS ON THE ISSUE OF PERJURY AND IMPEACHMENT[Ann Coulter discusses] - AS A FORMER WATERGATE PROSECUTOR!!!!! - TORTE REFORM, MEGAN’S LAW, MARRIAGE PROTECTION AMENDMENT, and many other JUDICIAL ISSUES that he is particularly UNFIT to have any influence over American government.
On a purely CONSTITUTIONAL matter.
As a Watergate prosecutor, a Howard Baker protege’, and a character actor as a prosecutor on Law and Order - which is produced and primarily cast by Liberals, continually shows a highly Conservative message in order to maintain a strong audience level in AMERICA - this man is MOST UNIQUELY BLATANTLY displaying that he is most unfit of all to be charged with duties entailing the appointment of JUDGES to our Judicial branch, and in charge of deciding the CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES of CLEANING UP the Judicial debauchle we now have - IN A CONSTITUTIONAL MANNER.
i.e., in particular, his handling of the Committee that was charged to investigate the CHINESE DONATIONS to the Clinton campaign funds, his participation and LEADERSHIP in the authorship, and push in getting McCain-Feingold-THOMSPON passed, reasoning behind decisions for his stance on The Marriage Amendment, problems with McCain-Feingold-THOMPSON, Megan’s Law, etc, etc, and the SHAMNESTY ISSUE.
NEITHER WOULD JESUS!
This man would have the Good Samaritan making charity donations to the ROBBERS instead of to the poor beaten and robbed man - with his taxes on NURSING HOME BED OCCUPANCY of $5-6 DAILY, and banning medical care for smokers and the obese (if being “obese” is merely a willful selfish CHOICE, why hasn’t he spoken to his own wife - who is obviously doing her very best - when he was busy grooming HIMSELF for this office, PHYSICALLY!!! ?????????? Whenever I see a man who spends more cash on himself than he does on his wife in matters of public appearance…he has told me everything there is to say about his attitude towards ANYONE but HIMSELF!)
OPEN BORDERS AND SLAVE REPARATIONS TO HOME INVADERS???? DEPENDING on ENTITLEMENT SEEKERS TO PROVIDE THE IMPETUS TO OVERTURN ROE V WADE (re his comments to TEENS at “The Call”, May 27, 2007)
No, I don’t see any REFLECTION of the words and actions of JESUS in THIS “Baptist Minister”!!!!
Huckabee should heed Matthew 25. And Jesus’ admonition to the “many” who would say on that day, “Lord, Lord, we did many mighty works in your Name!”
I am POSITIVE that Ronpaul is slyly including all his donations from white supremacist militias in that total from “the military”.
Fox News also discounted the value of Ronpaul’s polling numbers, too!
I can’t help but think should Huckabee be put out of the running for the GOP nomination, he will accept an offer to run as Hillary’s VP, should the Democrats prove to hate this nation enough to actually give her the nod.