Kos advocates election mischief in Michigan
Markos Moulitsas, mainstream Newsweek columnist, tells his minions at the Daily Kos to muck up the Michigan primary: “Let’s have some fun in Michigan.” How many of the same moonbat minions who gnash their teeth about the need for integrity in the voting system will follow his orders to pull off this shenanigan? Look:
In 1972, Republican voters in Michigan decided to make a little mischief, crossing over to vote in the open Democratic primary and voting for segregationist Democrat George Wallace, seriously embarrassing the state’s Democrats. In fact, a third of the voters (PDF) in the Democratic primary were Republican crossover votes. In 1988, Republican voters again crossed over, helping Jesse Jackson win the Democratic primary, helping rack up big margins for Jackson in Republican precincts. (Michigan Republicans can clearly be counted on to practice the worst of racial politics.) In 1998, Republicans helped Jack Kevorkian’s lawyer — quack Geoffrey Feiger — win his Democratic primary, thus guaranteeing their hold on the governor’s mansion that year.
With a history of meddling in our primaries, why don’t we try and return the favor. Next Tuesday, January 15th, Michigan will hold its primary. Michigan Democrats should vote for Mitt Romney, because if Mitt wins, Democrats win.
Bob Owens points out that Kos gets his history wrong:
…Kos purposefully leave out the nasty truth: even without a single Republican vote, segregationist Wallace would have still won handily in 1972 Michigan, by more than 111,000 votes.
Michigan’s apparently segregationist Democratic mainstream gave him at least 538,953 votes (I subtracted 1/3 of Wallace’ total, as if all Republicans added to Wallace’s vote total to arrive at that figure, even though 1/3 of the Republican cross-overs actually voted for McGovern. This figure is heavily biased in favor of his flawed argument, and he still loses), 111,259 more than also-ran George McGovern’s 425,694 according to Kos’ own source.
Kos can rightly claim that Republicans crossed over in 1972. He just can’t credibly claim they affected the outcome.
Moreover, Kos’s rationale for dispatching his followers to vote for Romney is idiotic. He writes:
…on the GOP side, this primary will be fiercely contested. John McCain is currently enjoying the afterglow of media love since his New Hamsphire victory, while Iowa winner Mike Huckabee is poised to do well in South Carolina.
Meanwhile, poor Mitt Romney, who’s suffered back-to-back losses in the last week, desperately needs to win Michigan in order to keep his campaign afloat. Bottom line, if Romney loses Michigan, he’s out. If he wins, he stays in.
And we want Romney in, because the more Republican candidates we have fighting it out, trashing each other with negative ads and spending tons of money, the better it is for us. We want Mitt to stay in the race, and to do that, we need him to win in Michigan.
If Romney wins Michigan, he’ll have the money and organization to stick it on ’til Super Tuesday–something Huckabee’s shoestring campaign might not be able to do unless the Arkansas governor has a strong showing.
Interestingly, the commenters at Kos have mixed feelings about their leader’s call to mischief. A sample:
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I had to laugh at acuity. “I place a high value on democracy”. Well, if that was true, why do you vote for those determined to take it away? Sounds like something Chavez would say….
Wow, I’m still undecided but was leaning toward the Stormin’ Mormon. This just might be the tipping point that makes up my mind. Give them a fit by voting for Mitt.
Why do some states still have open primaries?
Primaries should be for registered party members - for all parties. (period)
Go ahead, moonbats. Make my day.
Such an original concept,I wonder if Kos thought it up all by himself,or if he had help from the inhabitants of Denny’s mother-ship?
Ahhhh! Is this what they might call Progressive Integrity or something?
And, the Left has the nerve to complain about voting shennanigans. Geez.
He reads the letters that come written in crayon.
KOS had driven off the road to rational thought and behavior long ago. He needs a good spanking, which he’d probably enjoy way too much.
On January 11th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, timbudd said:
Why do some states still have open primaries?
Primaries should be for registered party members - for all parties. (period)
I agree, Shillary is the only Dem on the ticket in Mich. and No Dem Delegates
because the moved up the date.
But I hope they vote for Mitt.
I bet that KOS has conveniently “forgotten” that the roots of the Democratic party is segregation, racism and slavery and that it still remains true to the basic tenants of its founder President Jackson.
BTW: The democrats are opposed to using a simple ID at the time one votes so voting fraud is not a concern of the party at all.
I just figured it out:
KOS :KRAZIER than a s%$t house OWL SYNDROME
Mor-on.Org.
So long as they have the “bad” behavior of Republicans to cite/justify their antics, then it’s ok.
The old adage “If your friend Tommy jumps off of a building does that mean you also have to jump from a building?
How juvenile… no wonder they are termed the “Kos-kids”
Shuuuuush
Let them play their game. It’s obvious the left can stomach McCain but not Mitt. That alone should speak volumes. On the other hand, if they cast a bunch of votes for Paul, we are stuck with that idiot hanging around making the Republicans look stupid.
I have issues with all of the candidates but other than Paul, any one of them is light years better than the total disaster of Clinton or Obama in the White House. Either one of those two would send this country, if it even survived, into a socialist spiral that would last a generation. (Think Supreme Court for example.) That is no joke folkes and we better not stay home in protest if “our guy” isn’t the nominee. Nobody wants to vote for the lesser of two evils but evil is exactly what we face if Clinton or Obama get in. There is nothing acceptable about them but all of the R’s (except for Paul) have some at least some positions and qualities we can support.
Reagan isn’t available so work your tail off for whoever you sopport but in the end, get behind the Republican whoever it is….or else!
“A history of meddling in our primaries”.Hey Kos,since when does OPEN PRIMARY mean OUR primary?
Hey KOS, two words: NED LAMONT?
Daily Kos: Bringing you a strategy for winning elections for your opponents
Exactly!
Has everyone seen these two posts?..
Good news for Fred an Mitt.
http://www.gopusa.com/theloft/?p=639
Good news for Romney.
http://www.redstate.com/blogs/thunder/2008/jan/10/can_romney_take_2nd_place_all_the_way_to_the_nomination#comment-629014
Does that mean the Republicans can’t cross over and vote for Kucinich?
Scruple? Something conservative blogosphere could use more of.
Did anyone really expect anything less from Marksit anyway. He’s a fool and even some of his Kosack’s see it. lol
OK……this in from KOS awhile ago….
but!!! relevent:
“Perhaps it is valid to remind ourselves once in a while that hate really has no political affiliation, and that evil comes from every direction.” by dhonig @ Daily Kos
“My private theory is that many of us on the left have decided that every view deserves a hearing, no matter how odious it is, and that there is some kind of moral calculus whereby a given sentiment is balanced out by other, more acceptable views held by the same person.
Me, I don’t buy that. There are views that need ruthless opposition, and hatred of Jews - or blacks or whomever - falls into that category. We need to be able to say unambiguously, “No, this is wrong”. “ by MBNYC
Some of the KOS KIDS are turning…..
to CENTER!!!! What A F’ngconcept!!!?!
O! & GO FRED!!!
hatelibs, you assume that huck or mccain would pick true constructionist judges. don’t bet on it, even reagan gave us liberal judges!!!
if we don’t get paul, huck and mccain out now we are in deep trouble period!!
Newsflash…Romney was already a strong contender here in Michigan, and this just helps him…What kos doesn’t realize is that our local news outlets have been working in sync to let the Democrats know about the option for voting ‘uncommitted’..It is not some news blurb here or there, but daily in the newspapers and on every mid-day and evening newscast on each and every channel. They are letting people know that they can’t write in names but must check the box “uncommitted”, and those that sent their absentees in with write in’s are being given new ballots…
On January 11th, 2008 at 12:59 pm, walterc said:
Does that mean the Republicans can’t cross over and vote for Kucinich?
Well, they could but you only get one vote. The Dems nothing to lose by voting Republican. Where if a Republican votes for Kucinich he wastes his/her vote.
The main reason they left screams about voter fraud is because they are “actually” doing voter fraud.
On January 11th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, uhangtight said:
hatelibs, you assume that huck or mccain would pick true constructionist judges. don’t bet on it, even reagan gave us liberal judges!!!
if we don’t get paul, huck and mccain out now we are in deep trouble period!!
So, according to Marky Mark, voting for Jesse Jackson equates to “practic[-ing] the worst of racial politics”?
Who knew? And if that’s so, does the same hold of voting for O-Bama Man?
uhangtight
I do agree with you about getting Paul, McCain, and Huck out ASAP. Paul is a joke and a distraction & I seriously doubt McCain or Huck could win in the general election so they are sapping resources. I just want to prevent Hitlary or Obama from getting in…period!
davenp35 - do you know how to put a link in your post using the “link” button above the comment box?
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There the opposite end of that spectrum:
They want to mess with peoples’ heads why don’t they vote for Kucinich?
Bingo!
davenp35.. read the redstate yesterday. i thought it very fascinating and that is why Romney has said all along, it is a 50 state race. Not a 3 state race. Those three states two of which allow swing voters.
That is why I say, Thompson will be the VP. Romney/Thompson is the ticket in November in my mind. I could be wrong. The GOPUSA I had not seen; and this is even more exciting!!
All of the states that have so far been part of these media circus primaries have a niche that fits a particular candidate, to the exclusion of America, so to say Romney is finished because he does not fit a niche is pure jingoism. But then who gives these prognosticators authentication other than their self importance. Romney is in it to win it.
The real dirty work being done here was done by whoever had to stomach DailyKos to fetch those screenshots of the comments!
These guys operate like this board’s very own Flenser: keep knocking front runners but be painfully shy about ever being supportive of a single one.
Without question laws are being broken here: the KOS is actively promoting conspiracy by the tighetest definition (look it up in the Baron’s or your favorite law dictionary))to maliciously cause harm to the election process, and conspiracy and malicious are the operative terms which put their behavior straight into “illegal” territory. It’s no longer in the free speech realm, by virtue of the very motivations directly expressed in their “call to arms”; their behavior is by definition illegal. I wonder if any lawers or right-leaning groups will have the courage and determination to do the right thing: file suit against them. These guys are way over the line, and it’s time to both stop them and make an example for the future.
Interesting that they like McCain. I would have thought his position on the war and budget issues would completely disqualify him, but then he is so liberal on so many other issues they it evidently makes up for it in their eyes.
Who wants to bet that they bring in help from ACORN?
Dang Marxists!
Collin
http://evangelicalperspective.blogspot.com
A Rommney/Thompson ticket sounds like a winner to me. Fred would make a good POTUS, but the job ages people so much I feel that the VP spot would be better.
Mitt could send Fred to meet with other
world leaders on foreign policy issues.
As VP Fred would also be the Senate Pro Tem and could guide senate republicans with his conservative views.
Rommney has a great television presence that would appeal the public and get their support on a wide range of issues. I mean the man looks presidental.
Wait the democratic primaries are even closer than the republican ones. So why is Kos asking dems not to vote for Hillary or Obama and instead asking them to vote for a republican ?
Maybe its because the democratic candidates suck ?
Please, please don’t throw me into that Briar Patch!
Careful what you wish for, Kos.
Is there anything liberal nuts won’t do that’s dishonest?
MadChef - 4 or 8 years of Thompson/Romney then Romney/whoever sounds good to me.
ahhhhh, democracy at its finest. PUKE!
What a moron… First of all, I’d say Mitt stands one of the best chances in the general. Second, HE’S WINNING in terms of delegates. His 2 second places and 1 first place are better than any combo the other guys have come up with.
Why don’t they come out for Paul to make us look like idiots (like the Paul morons do whenever Fox keeps making the stupid mistake of having “text message polls”)?
Just replace ‘Republican’ with ‘Democrat’. Aren’t they doing the same thing?
Hmm, I have to admit that I also have some mixed feelings about this. If McVain were to actually be defeated by a group of people that are closest to his natural base (which is more left-leaning than conservative by far), it would be such a delicious irony.
Bottom line is that I really don’t want McVain or Huck to get anywhere close to the nomination, because they don’t represent conservatives, and they both have a history of stabbing Republicans and conservatives in the back. They are two potential nominees that could very well cause me to sit out election day, if not writing in another candidate.
thirteen28: With all due respect, think carefully before sitting out the election. Look what happened in November 2006. We lost most of our voice.
If the dems get in, all the illegals will be legalized, permanently ending the republican party. We will not have a voice at all.
I’m in Michigan, although I’m not a Troll,
(In Michigan Trolls are the ones that ‘Live under the Bridge’) I’m for Da UP Eh! Anyway I had actually considered registering as a dimmocrat just so I could vote against Billary twice if necessary. It’s still open though and I don’t have to register for a party. You just request the Ballot and it is noted so that you can’t vote in both Primaries, too bad for the ‘vote early, vote often socialists’, but, and it’s a big BUTT, from my understanding the dimmo ballot contains 2 choices, 1. Shrillery; 2; Non-committed. There are no other fascists on the ballot.
It will be interesting how this is manipulated by ‘fairer party’ . You know, in the spirit of Bi-Partisan, ‘When you do it my way and I do it my way, that’s Bi-partisan’.
People, our Republic stands or falls on this election cycle. I fear we are not using all the tools available. The White House seems complacent or complicit in it’s relations with the one-worlders.
Remember; Hitler wanted ‘One World’ for a thousand years, Stalin wanted ‘One World’ and was an early part of ‘ComIntern’ (’Communist International’ for you newbies).
The incremental dissolution of our society has been masterful. Don’t underestimate the Adversary. Those who observe, biding time are the first exiles or the first to the camps.
To have equality across the board usually involves the relinquishing of the rights of the individual.
Haven’t we given up too much already since ‘The New Deal’?
No need to call those of us that live below the bridge names
Could you imagine if they did this, Mitt barely wins, then goes on to become president. He could mention the Daily Kos in his victory speech.
Actually the story goes, that the bridge was built so Yoopers could swim the straits in the shade.
‘Nother story though. It would be much better if Lansing didn’t treat us like part of Wisconsin.
Nothing personal, I did spend 22 Years in Detroit one night. Got up in the morning and left. So I kind of understand.
Too bad it takes over 900,000 signature to recal ‘2 Pennie Jennie’, the failed Canadian actress.
What’s that they say about ‘Michigan pays for Canadian Trash’?
Markos Moulitsas, loser.
Markos doesn’t influence any votes but he’s a little tyrant on that site, taking away privileges and making very nasty attacks on commenters at times. Obviously, he has dreams of becoming a TV pundit but his TV personality is all wrong, very effeminate and over-smiley.
Hmm.. Looks like a Freeper has filed a criminal complaint against the kosmeister.
Kos legal fund fund raiser begins in 5..4..3…
Whoa! Are you SERIOUS?? A blogger attacking commentators?? How shrill can the left get??