Poll positions
Thought you might like to see the final results of the poll I put up the other day on possible GOP ticket configurations:
CNN has new poll numbers out showing the leading Dem candidates beating any of the GOP contenders in a general election:
The Republican presidential field appears to face a tough general election fight in a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll released Saturday.
According to the survey, both of the Democratic front-runners, Sens. Hillary Clinton of New York and Barack Obama of Illinois, hold mostly double-digit — and statistically identical — advantages over Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani and Mike Huckabee, drawing greater than 50 percent support in each hypothetical matchup.
The Republican candidate who gives Clinton and Obama the closest race in the new poll is Arizona Sen. John McCain, who is essentially tied with both: He draws the support of 48 percent of those surveyed to Clinton’s 50 percent and Obama’s 49 percent.
Clinton leads the front-running candidates of both parties — Obama, McCain, Giuliani, Huckabee and Romney — in the percentage of voters who say they would definitely vote for her if she won her party’s nomination, with 37 percent. But she trails the pack in the percentage of voters who do not support her, but say they might consider voting for her under those circumstances, with 19 percent.
Obama is second to Clinton in potential voters who say they would definitely vote for him in the general election, with 30 percent. McCain, who is third in that category with 22 percent, is first among voters who say they’d consider voting for him if he were the Republican nominee, with 35 percent.
The poll contained some worrying news for Romney: 62 percent of those surveyed say they will definitely not vote for the former Massachusetts governor in the general election, compared with just 13 percent who say they will definitely support him — the worst showing of any of the major candidates.
The poll also suggests that two of his GOP primary opponents might also face an uphill climb this fall, with more than half of those polled saying they would definitely not vote for either man in November: 55 percent said they would not consider backing Giuliani, and 52 percent said the same of Huckabee, a former governor of Arkansas.
Just one other candidate in the race, McCain, competes with Obama in both categories, with a favorability rating of 54 percent and an unfavorability rating of 29 percent. McCain is the only Republican included in the poll with a favorability rating of greater than 50 percent.
McClatchy/NBC has Romney ahead of McCain in Michigan by 8 points.
With all that in mind, here’s a new question I put to all of you:
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Thanks for the update Michelle. I voted for the Thompson/Romney ticket. But more importantly, for me, it’s commitment to conservative principles. The last person we need as president is a populist.
I see the MSM is working hard to get Democrats in Republican clothing selected as the GOP candidate. In our household we are fed up with holding our noses and pulling the R lever. If a candidate is not prepared to defend conservative principles it will lose two conservative votes (not that the 4 Electoral College votes of Idaho mean much in the general election). We will only vote down ticket rather than vote for a RINO.
So, holding noses and not voting, you want to put someone like a radical left wing power zealot like Clinton in office?
The media is spinning like crazy to hype up both Huckabee and McCain while at the same time downplaying Romney and Thompson. This is actually a pretty good barometer for conservatives to see who they should vote for…just go with the opposite of what the media wants.
Vote Mitt!
#3
Why should the choice even come down to holding ones nose to vote? We need to grow a set and start doing what we should to not have that happen. I find it offensive that people keep telling me that I should hold my nose and vote for whoever. I have more integrity than that.
And flame away with the resulting but you will put Clinton in office? Not if we band together and put someone up for the nomination who is not a reasonable facsimile of Clinton to begin with.
Its a shame that we are so willing to sell out our values.
I see the MSM’s efforts really paid off with the two “adults” in your household.
Thanks for the Dem Congress Boomer.
President Kerry was ahead in the polls at this time, wasn’t he?
I think I’ll go for both conservative principle and electability.
So that would be Fred Thompson
Donna, the problem here is a lot of folks have said in prior posts that they will hold out in this election if someone like McCain is the nominee. The point I’m trying to make is, whoever the Republican nominee is, we should not hold out.
In my eyes, ANYBODY but Clinton or Obama best.
CNN’S poll….
Creating
Numbers for their
Nominees
Bullseye!
It appears to me that to be a consistant conservative will by default make you electable to both Republicans and Independents…because to be conservative is to have the government be smaller and the tax burden less…what’s not to like?
It’s an interesting poll configuration, Michelle. Fred is the conservative, and therefore a name to be avoided as much as possible by the MSM. They rather like the wingnuts and the watered-downs, but purposely avoid the Fred.
By the same token, the Rudy could chew Hillary’s lunch in a New York minute, as they say. And not break a sweat, I might add.
How do we get their numbers up, I wonder? BTW, who has the most delegates at this point?
Couldn’t agree more. MSM is working hard to make the election what they want it to be about. Since I have no respect for MSM, I find it hard to believe anything I see or hear from them.
I’m with AJ, I would sooner let Coronel Sanders watch my chickens the trust CNN.
then trust CNN, my bad
#8
Why are you jumping ahead to that? I am of the thought that I will cross that bridge if and when I HAVE to.
But until then I am going to work my butt off not to allow that to happen. I will not go for the MSM spins and preemptively throw in the towel. I will stand defiant in the face of what they are telling me is going to happen and work even harder to show them “oh not so fast.”
Remember not so long ago it looked like according to the MSM, we were going to have to accept the DREAM ACT.
Ah …again not so fast.
I for one will not plan at this point what to do if….
I am planning on what to do when my candidate gets the nod.
Thompson/Romney is the ticket I suggested a few days ago, and I do like it.
With FRED!’s REAL and tested conservative record and his core beliefs teamed with the leadership and business sense of Romney I really believe they could do great things for America. We MUST have a real conservative with a real record of voting as such to lead this country right now. And with the sub-prime mess, talk of recession, China, the dollar down, Mitt is the guy to help our economy recharge.
Like I mentioned the other day…FRED! for president and let Mitt help the economy. ( as long as both Tancredo and Hunter have high position jobs for national security and illegal immigration ‘issues’.
That would be an administration I could truly get behind.
While I agree electibility is an important factor, but we have to draw the line somewhere. Principles matter far more. My heart doesn’t exactly flutter at the mention of Thompson/Romney, but I would vote for the combination. McCain is just Hillary in drag.
The hideous irony of all this electibility talk is as soon as McCain got the nomination, assuming that happened, the MSM then would mercilessly remind everyone of his unapologetic use the term “g**k” and I don’t mean “geek.” Watch his poll numbers dive. Moreover, some of us no doubt recall Mr. McCain came perilously close to accepting John Kerry’s offer in 2004 that McCain be his VP. Much as I hate to say it, and I appreciate his tough stance on Iraq/Iran, the man is hopeless.
My own feeling is that Republicans should have a strong backup plan this year for writing off the presidency and regaining congress. The latter may actually be possible, if they can somehow persuade the voters they will do a better, more principled job than last time. It will be a lot harder than it was in 1994, but at least it is possible.
As for the prospect of “President Moonbeam Gaseous Obama” don’t get me started.
Anything is possible at this point in time. It’s way too early to predict a Dem vs. Rep lineup.
Sure, it would be great to have the Romney/Thompson ticket, but we’ll have to wait and see what transpires.
But if idiots keep on selecting people like the liberal McCan’t, it will be tough thing to pull off. Especially in high delegate states like CA, where the real Republicans are a small number to begin with.
I don’t pay any attention to the liberals at Clinton News Network. Fred can win the nomination and beat anybody Democraps run. Only three very small states have voted so far. My vote counts, your vote counts, so lets stand up for the only candidate that stands for what conseratives believe in.
Don’t let the MSM decide for you.
McCain only used the word gook against those that had beat him up. Although the etymology of the word is unsure, to my mind it seems clear that gook comes from goon. They were small goons, so the word fits. Anyone that would hold it against him deserves a several-year workover by several small goons.
I want a third choice. I want conservative and electable.
So much to say, so little space. Condensed, better to elect Obama and have four years of a failed administration than elect a liberal pretending to be a conservative.
It would take Obama a year to figure things out, he would run wild for about 6 months, the Reps would take back the house and senate for the final two years of his failed administration. The blue dogs would live or die depending on their support of Obama.
On the other hand, electing a liberal Rep would give the media all the fodder it needs to ensure the defeat of anyone running on the Rep ticket. The party would fracture into splinter groups, many of which will never come back.
The MSM is setting us up for a ‘lose lose’ situation. The word must be passed, we need a conservative choice. We cannot let the liberals decide who they want to run against. This will only change when we push back and the majority of us get behind the conservative candidate.
Go Fred.
Cable
News
Numb-Nuts
Crapweasel’s
Never-ending
Nonsense
Constipated
Neurotic
Naysayers
Sigh, It is now and always has been,
Communist
News
Network
just ask Mrs. Turnner…
Given the debacle in NH, what is the point of invoking a poll at this point? The reality is that the race is wide open and no one knows what will happen.
A poll comparing the Dem candidate to any of the Rep candidates is totally useless in the middle of the primary. I don’t understand why so many people that claim to hate polls hyperanalyze them at every opportunity.
It is still anyone’s race. We will see what happens in Michigan and that should make things clearer.
I still think my guy Rudy has an excellent shot as well……here is how I wrote about it…
Wow Michelle who concocted your poll. Is that the choice, Electability vs Principles, just as in Democrat vs Republican. How about voting for Electability and Principles. The Democrats have many ways to win an election without a valid majority. They have ACORN registration, voting eligibility without any type of forged documentation, several methods of validation with forged documents, substituting rigged electronic voting machines for authenticated machines, and lastly the Gregoire-Gore method of counting votes. Until our voting methods becomes legitimate we must turn out vast numbers of the Silent Majority but until then the corrupt hand of the Democrats will win most elections.
Yeah, and CNN had Obama to win New Hampshire by double digits.
Real Clear Politics has great coverage of many different polls here
The poll portion of the site is good for endless hours of what-if scenarios.
If it’s allowed, of course, this question is for Michelle only (please no additional participants since it’s easy to get piled on):
A month or so Rudy was the clear frontrunner. In a race as fluid as it is on the Republican side, where things can turn literally daily on a dime, I’m just wondering why Giuliani was left out of the poll question. Seems like a fair question, yes?
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All: as far as CNN is concerned, I’d waht to see how the questions were phrased and how they identified the participants before giving any credibility to a word they say.
Exactly. Right now, all the talking heads are saying Mitt Romney’s going to lose in Michigan. However, according to another “poll”, they have him winning over McCan’t by 8 points.
Well, which is it?
Juan Williams (right now) is saying Mitt’s over basically.
Looks like the Lame Stream Media is cheering for McCan’t. He’s the maverick, remember?
CNN and credibility? lol, good one.
All of these polls regarding hypothetical runoffs between Dems and Repubs are meaningless at this point. Nothing will clarify until the nominees are selected and have cross party debates. That is the only way voters will be able to see who deserves their vote. This may be another election won or lost by the independents.
Why don’t we wait until Super Tuesday Feb. 5 then thing’s will be crystal clear.
CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, Zogby, Rasmussen etc… who cares their all political hack’s and their poll’s are irrelivant. Their only telling you who they want you to vote for so if you looking at poles and I don’t want to offend anyone, your a sucker and I have some great land in the Missouri river bottom’s I would like to sell you contact me at 555-sucr.
Giuliani/Thopmson.
Howz that for a hand grenade?
I prefer Thompson/Giuliani… but don’t knock Rudy he has his faults but as opposed to Hillary, I can live with them.
Duncan Hunter, This was posted on Monica Crowley’s blog. I like Duncan Hunter. Conservative values.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20080113-9999-1m13hunter.html
Hey brooklyn red,
Rudy would make the Dems spend a bag of money in the northeast and he would win in NY,NJ, Conn. He’s a New Yorker not a carpet bagger! Fred would take Tenn. and most of the southern states. Fred would be President of the Senate as V.P. which is where he came from. He helped guide Alito and Roberts through confirmation to SCOTUS. I think it would put fear in the Dems hearts no matter who they nominate.
I believe you know my answer. What good is power if it isn’t used in a conservative, small-government manner?
Technical note; I don’t know if you, Mark and company know about WP-Polls, but they’ve been pretty reliable for me (a little bit harder to spam than PollHost, we don’t have to leave the site to see results, and you can limit any poll to registered users).
Fred is the only one who knows who he is running against - the media.
The rest still reflexively try to curry favor there, and convince themselves they can get a fair deal from the MSM. The MSM will turn on and shred any Republican nominee, because they are determined to elect a Dem as POTUS and they are furious that they could not pull it off with Kerry. The present slate of Dems is just as weak, so the MSM knows it has to do their work for them.
Why, after all of the times that polls have been shown inaccurate (New Hampshire?) should I be afraid of a CNN poll now?
Thompson/Hunter ‘08! Catch the Fevah!
“The poll contained some worrying news for Romney: 62 percent of those surveyed say they will definitely not vote for the former Massachusetts governor in the general election…”
I am not a Romney fan, but this is prima facie evidence that this poll is bogus. When are we going to do something about the media throwing around lies to try to influence nominations and elections?! Damn them.
I looked at the CNN poll pdf and it does not give the breakdown of who participated in the poll, just total numbers and voters, no clue of how many dems or reps to evaluate the poll. Makes it worthless.
I also find it unlikely that our nominee will confine their running mate to those they competed against.
For example if Hill is theirs a woman VP would counter her to some extent.
If Obama was the guy then a black VP like Mike Steele would counter that.
Of course the Dems would cry foul, but we would throw back that they seem to be against inclusiveness.
Or we could hedge our bet and make Condi the VP and have it both ways.
CommentGuy - most pollsters adjusted their bias after the 2006 elections to include more Democrats and less Republicans and independents. If my hazy memory serves, one of them (sadly, I don’t remember which; otherwise, it wouldn’t be “hazy memory”) bumped the D component up to 40%.
I don’t think Condi would attract a lot of votes. IMO she’s been a disappointment.
Where can I vote for this combination? And how often?
In my book, McCain is no better than either Clinton or Obama. A vote for McCain is the same as a Democrat vote. After his push for amnesty, there is no way I will ever pull the lever for that worthless panderer.
Electability is a media construct. Principle, somewhat lacking among the front runners considering their inconsistency on various topics, again has been media construed to mean adherence to specific doctrine: taxes, immigration, social concerns and NOT how they’ve followed the constitution. Thus, the above offerings, as far as I’m concerned, are merely conservative lite: no substance, leaving one with a sour taste and bloated feeling of too much government.
Marshall Russ, post #38
Great analysis on Rudy/Fred demographics and related/appropriate prior experience. Nicely done.
Hey #27 your guy Rudy was just on fox talking about his amnesty program. But wait that’s not what he calls it, you know they’ll have penalties and other rewards.
Ha! whats in you’re wallet? rewards are for bounty hunters.
Go Fred!
solid on all things we have been fighting for all year.
lets get with it people!
I hear you AJ….
It’s REWARDS and BRIBES.
It is not technically nor legally amnesty if they charge a
finebribe for a “pathway to citizenship.” It is worse - it is a REWARD of the ill-gotten goods. Plain and simple. And what does that say to the NEXT 30 million about to cross the border? “Come on over, the water’s fine!”I sure hope Thompson, Romney, and Hunter (when allowed) start framing “amnesty” in these terms, so hopefully our (uninformed) electorate get to see it in these terms. After all, they do want attrition by enforcement - both Republicans AND Democrats, according to Zogby.
I would love to see a debate moderator ask Rudy, Huck, and McCain if they can distinguish between the following two scenarios:
1. A would-be illegal alien BRIBES a BP agent with $3000 to illegally enter our country (it happens, BTW.)
2. Soliciting a $3000
finebribe from an illegal alien already in the country AFTER THE FACT.#2 Smells like a Mafia protection racket to me.
The Malkin Mob will be after them for that.
The difference is that McCain will destroy the notion of a Republican party for a generation.
On January 13th, 2008 at 6:35 pm, twiggman said #51:
Hey #27 your guy Rudy was just on fox talking about his amnesty program. But wait that’s not what he calls it, you know they’ll have penalties and other rewards.
I listened to what Rudy said and I didn’t hear anything about a pathway to citizenship. In fact when pressed by C.W. he said, back of the line.
#57 yea right the back of what line.. the one on the other side of the boarder… no.. the one here with their new govt issue id badge’s. He never said that they would have to go back home..now did he? Wake up man!
First, one HUGE “DUH!” to all of you that have forgotten that Republicans are LOSERS.
Second, why do you even bother? This poll is from CNN… Anything coming from them is going to be incredibly bogus.
But we all know that there’s not a Republican anywhere that has a snowball’s chance in Hell of winning the presidency.
Idaho’s small population only gives them 2 Congressmen and 2 Senators. All are Republicans to include to our great embarrassment “Happy Feet” Larry Craig. Our two votes mean nothing in the scheme of things on the national level because Idaho will only send conservatives or lying crapweasels that pretend to be conservatives to Congress.
My son will cast his first vote Tuesday in the Michigan GOP primary. We talk a lot and he likes Fred-I’m a Rudy guy. We will both vote for Mitt to try to derail the McCain express. Very cynical for a first vote-should I encourage him to vote for his guy?
Bruce #59
On January 13th, 2008 at 7:31 pm, twiggman #58 said:
#57 yea right the back of what line.. the one on the other side of the boarder… no.. the one here with their new govt issue id badge’s. He never said that they would have to go back home..now did he? Wake up man!
I am awake man! Close the border and make it impossible for them to work here and send all the dinero back home. The local governments that have gone after the employers
have forced the illegal workers to move on. If they can’t work they will go home.
#61 that would be up to you sir…
AJ LOL good one
MARSHALL RUSS #63 That’s a good start.But if you think they are going to leave on there own, I think you are sadly mistaken.
Marshal,
Rudy is saying more than “back of the line”. He’s the only one who seems to have a plan on specifically how to get the deportation process going, probably from all his years as a prosecutor. If you know his pattern, it probably kinda goes like this, with a digression or two:
We can mostly conclude that all the candidates, except Rudy and Possibly fred, won’t ever live up to the deportation promises: for Mitt, I suspect, particularly, all that “we’ll start deporting illegals” will go right out the window the moment the protests begin, the press hammers him hard, and his poll numbers sink like a rock due to relentless MSM coverage painting him as inhumane.
Rudy, it seems to me, if you have watched him over the years, appears to be preparing as a terrific first step: deport all the convicted criminal aliens first. Right away (his record as a prosecutor shows he doesn’t stall prosecution). That’s tough to argue with, gets the deportation process going and then allows the opportunity to move forward with the sting taken out of the process. He doesn’t say it - unfortunately (but he never broadcast these kinds of intentions) but after all those years watching him as Mayor, there’s no question in my mind that this is what he’s up to. The same thing with the street crazies and the porn houses both. In each case the situation started small in terms of prosecution - only the “extreme cases” even the far left had trouble defending (and they did defend porno house and street crazies - loudly), and before you knew it all the street crazies and porno houses were gone. Same thing with organized crime, though no one was defending that. First it was the “stronghold” of the Fulton Street Market, and before you knew it guys were being blown out of town and into the clinker left and right in all corners of the city. For Rudy to say, “Just the most aggregious cases” tells me he’s rolling his sleeves up. That’s his pattern and it’s never changed.
Those who think he’s going to be light on crime - any crime - didn’t watch the guy for all those years. There’s alot of left-leaning propoganda about his “record”, but most of it is BS.
He’s a hard, hard prosecution guy. It may not make him warm and fuzzy, but he has a huge history of getting the job done. I dare say more than the other candidates, though I’m always open to hear how what they have achieved, any single one of them, that beats Rudy’s record of manifest, tangible accomlishment on just about any issue. We need a proven guy who does the job. If anyone can put forward a single candidate’s record of proven accomplishment (not “I worked hard for this” and “I always supported that”) that beats Rudy’s record I’ll change my vote. Talk, unfortunately, is cheap, what we need is proven accomplishment.
twiggman,#66 Check out this link. I don’t think I’m too sadly mistaken.
http://.cnn.com/2007/US/12/22/immigrants.leave.ap/
I don’t think conservatives need to “hold their noses and vote” just to keep any of the Democrat front-runners out of the White House. In 1856 a brand new anti-slavery party ran an uphill battle to get John Fremont elected President. He came in 2nd in a three-way race, losing to James Buchanan. According to the White House biography on-line,”Presiding over a rapidly dividing Nation, Buchanan grasped inadequately the political realities of the time.” His ineptness led to further splinter groups among the Democrat party, which in turn led directly to that anti-slavery party’s candidate winning the NEXT election…1860. The new party…Republican and their winner…Abraham Lincoln.
I say vote for principles, even if it means for a third party. No one knows what can happen in four years, but right will always be right (as in right vs. wrong, not right vs. left).
That is pretty much how I see it.
I like the doers.
Mr_Conservative_Cat #67
BTW that’s two LLs
the only one that has shown a true commitment to conservative principles is Ron Paul. there is no debate there.
#68 Look I’ll vote for Rudy If I HAVE to, But the bottom line is you do not reward illegal acts with citizenship, what part of illegal don’t you understand. Rudy likes to say Regan gave amnesty and he stops there, yes Regan did give amnesty only after McCain and the rest of his cronies assured him they would close the border, we see what that got didn’t we.
Try this one - 4 states are working just fine. And make sure you watch this, also.
Conservative_Cat re:67,
I would be OK with Rudy, & I remember who he was a prosecutor for ;)… & to put NY, NJ, Conn, & Penn in play is a lot of electoral college votes. He is not perfect for sure, but he is one tuff muthajumpa & not too PC either.
Twiggman post 72,
If I can jump in, who would you vote for? Romney says he would throw out illegals, but how do we know? Huckabee? Illegal immigration is huge, I know (I had a vested interest personally about one or two people re the Towers -won’t go into it, but I’m acutely aware of the seriousness of immigration policy.)
But let me ask you, since talk for politicians is cheap, who has the record of tangible, manifest accomplishment that Rudy has? It’s not a rhetorical question. Take the “I promise this” and “I’ve always supported that” out of it and who do you vote for?
I’m not being cute and not being aggressive; you said you’d vote for him if you had to, but just wondering to get a perspective.
Brooklyn Red:
Your name says it all: you were there, obviously. Somehow, we have to get the word out to all those people who didn’t live near or in NYC - Rudy is no average politician. You’re right about the electoral college.
Conservative_Cat,
Oh, the word is out. They criticize him, 9/11,9/11, like it doesn’t matter… the MSM (spit) won’t even show the footage for fear of the reaction. America remembers… America remembers the Alamo, the Maine, Pearl Harbor, Beirut, & the Cole… oh yes, America remembers. CNN can wish it away, but America is angry… very, very angry.
Rudy is viable.
Rudy is a good choice. I support Fred, but he has not shown the passion needed to get the job done if elected. This is not an acting gig.
I hope Florida comes out in force to support Rudy or Fred and send the others packing. I think Rudy needs a blow out in f=Florida to get into the race. He needs that fire going into super Tuesday.
That’s a tough poll to answer… because I think “conservative principles” are most important (in the primary season), but I would go out and vote for any of these guys over ANY of the Democrats. I’m sorry, but I’d rather stick a liberal like Huckabee in the White House with an R next to his name, then the fundamentally bad (and I would argue, largely evil… and I’m serious) people that make up the Dem candidates. It’s sort of like “do I want to take a chance of screwing up the country, or guarantee it gets screwed up, possibly irreparably ?” Some folks will stay home if shamnesty McCain is the nominee… but at least McCain has caved to our pressure in the past, and is claiming to still understand us. Whether that would prove to be true or not, the Dems are promising citizenship (read: voting rights) to illegals. It’s all about a chance vs. a guarantee of bad things happening. I’d rather take the chance than flush the country down the toilet by staying home on “principle”.
The big problem with polls like this is it gives people wide-open options. And the reality is that a lot of times we’re casting votes against one person as much as for another.
Come November, you’ll be presented with candidate A or B. Now at the moment, with a wide open field I may not lean towards McCain or Romney or even Huck, but if presented with a final choice btwn one of them vs. Hillary, Obama or Edwards, you damn well better believe I will cast my vote and it will be for whomever is on the republican ticket!
And let me add that while I believe that the right to vote also includes the right to abstain from voting if one isn’t excited about the candidates, doing so reminds me of what my dad has always called “cutting off your nose to spite your face”
Ok, the polls really don’t say that much, because they don’t account for the electoral college.
And of course a CNN poll will predict a democratic victory.
I rather object to the poll choice between electability and principle.
I mean really, between an electable candidate with no conservative principles (mostly what we get offered anyway), and a candidate with reliable conservative principles who can’t get themselves elected, what is there to choose?
It’s a lose-lose proposition.
One has to have both.
Duncan Hunter is an interesting study.
He’s solid on principle and has all the right things to say and a consistent record.
But he just doesn’t seem to have whatever it takes to get really popular on a national scale. Beats me. I think he’s a great guy. But …
By contrast, the popularity of Huckleberry and McPain is just plain scary.
#75 Mr.Conservative Cat… Sorry had something to do. Anyway… I like Hunter/Fred/Romney/Rudy In that order
Monday AM. Romney and the Huckster on CNBC: “we’re turning hard left to suck up to the Michigan voters. We’re going to bail out auto manufacturers and do something to make sure that their union contracts are so wonderful that…..”
Freely paraphrased, but that’s the general idea. (Excuse me while I puke some more)
Romney on cnbc: http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=623219661&play=1
Huckabee on cnbc:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=623225389&play=1
I agree, AJ. So, here is my thoughts on what CNN stands for…
C = Credibility
N = Not
N = Needed
Just look at their coverage.
Ugh. I see the not-surprising results of your poll.
Are we willing to ride our conservative bona fides right off a cliff for four years?
Do we really want another 4 years of double-digit inflation like the Carter administration because McCain doesn’t support immigration reform enough?
Do we want to throw Iraq under the bus AND CAUSE THE DEATHS OF THOUSANDS because McCain once voted against a tax cut because it didn’t decrease spending enough?
COME ON. Yes, it would be great if we had a wonderful conservative candidate who the media adored.
THIS YEAR, WE DON’T.
Let’s not martyr ourselves on the alter of Reagan just because this cycle’s crop isn’t perfect!
Fixed that for you.
It does come about that, with the exception of Huckleberry hound, anybody is better than what the Dems have.
As usual, Roy Beck has the truth on McCain well stated
http://numbersusa.com/actionalerts