Whose country is this, anyway?
Arizona has a tough, new state employer sanctions law to discourage illegal immigration. It’s called the Legal Arizona Workers Act and it prohibits employers from knowingly employing unauthorized aliens; requires the Attorney General and county Attorney to investigate complaints about employers who hire unauthorized aliens; and makes it unlawful for a person to file false and frivolous complaints against an employer. If an employer knowingly employs an unauthorized alien, the act requires that the employer’s business license be permanently revoked. It requires employers to verify their employees through a free federal basic pilot program. The act makes it a crime to take the identity of another to obtain employment.
The federal courts have refused to block the law, causing an uproar among the open-borders lobbyists.
Know who else is complaining? A delegation of Mexican lawmakers, who crossed the border and traveled to Tucson to lobby (Hat tip - reader Ray):
A delegation of nine state legislators from Sonora traveled to Tucson to make the case against Arizona’s new employer sanctions law[.]
The lawmakers say it will have a devastating [e]ffect on the Mexican state.
Whose problem is that?
At a news conference Tuesday, they said Sonora cannot handle the demand for housing, jobs and schools it will face as illegal Mexican workers in Arizona return to their hometowns without jobs or money.
Again: Whose problem is that?
The law, which took effect Jan.1, punishes employers who knowingly hire individuals who don’t have valid legal documents to work in the United States.
Businesses found violating the law face suspension or loss of a business license.
The lawmakers were to travel to Phoenix Wednesday for a breakfast meeting with Hispanic legislators.
They’re expected to tell them how the law will affect Mexican families on both sides of the border.
“How can they pass a law like this?” asked Mexican Rep. Leticia Amparano Gamez, who represents Nogales.
It’s the American democratic process. Look it up.
“There is not one person living in Sonora who does not have a friend or relative working in Arizona,” Amparano said in Spanish.
And her point is?
Amparano said the Sonoran legislators are already asking the federal government of Mexico for help. Rep. Florencio Diaz Armenta, coordinator of the delegation, represents the agricultural rich San Luis, Rio Colorado, area south of Yuma which employs some 28,000 legal Mexican workers.
“What do we do with the repatriated?” he asked.
One more time: Whose problem is that?
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Is anyone in Washington on our side at all? Does anyone pay attention to this anywhere north of Oklahoma?
If we ignore them, like a tree falling in the forest with nobody around, they make no sound and don’t exist.
Was the deligation here legally?
Man, those Mexican legislators must have brass ones!
How much more brazen and in-your-face could they have been; except to have come in armed, and threatened to open fire unless this law were repealed?
Is there any doubt, any longer, on anyone’s part, that our society, culture, and nation face an existential threat?
this is why we have the mess to begin with, we have allowed other countries to use the lobbying system designed for legal citizens only. foreign affairs should be handled by the executive branch not the legislative or judicial branches. therefore, i say go talk to senior bush. leave our legislators alone they are to serve the legal citizenry!
this is why a sincere look at the lobbying laws must take place. as lobbying legislators should be reserved for the legal citizens of this country only.
we need more laws that are tougher than this. You are right MM, we care more about what the Mexicans think than the rule of law or what the Americans think.
What are we? The United States of Northern Mexico?
Mexican lawyers have no legal right to practice law here - they have not passed the Arizona state bar (or *any* state bar, for that matter).
Illegal immigrants have no legal right to employment, SS benefits, health care or education benefits.
What happened to all that economic growth that Mexico was supposed to experience when Billy Jeff signed the NAFTA treaty?First we send American jobs to Mexico(and Canada),and now we are expected to sit back while they come here and take what few jobs remain.
Who truly cares what these people think? Since when is it up to Mexico to decide what laws the US does or doesn’t make? Are these people insane? Illegals don’t belong here. They are citizens of Mexico. It is not up to the US to fix Mexico’s problems. These politicians need to go home and fix their own backyard and stay the hell out of ours.
“How dare you pass a law that makes it illegal for illegal immigrants to… oh wait.”
This act sounds too good to be true. Straight-forward, fairly tough; I can’t believe it’s made it. I’m so glad steps are being taken to curb this problem. It’s a start.
It’s time to tell Mexico to shut the bleep up! Mexico is exporting their poverty to the US and getting billions of dollars back in return.
I’ve said it before and will continue to believe it….The candidate who pounds the table and emphatically demands that we build the damn fence, secure the border, and stop the invasion of illegals could be elected emperor!
They don’t seem to realize, or care, that if these “illegals” are sent home, the legal temporary and seasonal workers (of which there are millions) will be getting better wages to send home, thanks to good old supply and demand. They just don’t seem to be able to distinguish between “legal” and “illegal”. Of course, given the state of corruption in Mexico, that’s understandable.
Is this even legal under existing law?
Just down the street from my home is a Home Depot. Every day one may find upwards of 50 “Hispanic” looking men standing on the sidewalk out in front looking for work. I have seen vans drive up and hand out company t-shirts to 10 to 15 of the men and then load them up and drive off.
Until the state starts to target this type of illegal hiring I don’t think this new law is going to have much effect. If you really want to put some teeth into this law allow hospital emergency rooms to check on legal status as almost everyone ends up in the ER at some point in their lives.
Mexico thinks the North American Union is a done deal. Maybe they know something we don’t?
Maybe it is time the Mexicans tried capitalism. As it is now, Mexico is a Socialist/oligopolic economy with a touch of Narco-State.
Thanks Michelle … several of us from Arizona have commented here about our new law … in fact the next round of challenges to it from the open-borders supporters is back in the federal courts today. Read more here:
Arizona Legal Workers Act Challenge Number 3
And you can read about its effectiveness already in this link:
New Law Working
Just as in Oklahoma we are seeing an exodus of illegals.
As for those Mexican legislators … like the Saudis told GW … “pound sand” then go home and “Suck It Up”.
Thanks again Michelle for staying on top of this story.
Tell the Mexican legislators to read a copy of their own constitution for some great advice on how to deal with illegal aliens. Hypocrites!
The Mexican legislators only went to Arizona because Jorge Boosh is off in the Middle East playing kissy-face with a bunch of oil-rich terrorists.
After all, other Mexican “leaders” (that’s like saying “jumbo shrimp”) put the pressure on to railroad Ramos, Compean and Hernandez, and Jorge’s ears perked right up. They report, he decides. In the illegals’ favor, of course.
Any US member of Congress — or president — who does not stand for the rule of law and the need to secure our borders should be thrown out of office immediately. They are traitors to their oaths of office.
But of course they won’t be. In the words of Al Jolson (and Ronald Reagan): “you ain’t seen nothin’ yet!”
Hey mexico, Central America called “You’re black.”
Any time they want to join the union and pledge loyalty to the United States then I for one would welcome them into the fold. There is plenty of room on the flag to add a couple of stars.
Of course then their citizens would be subject to the laws of this country. But that is definitely a good thing for them since opportunity would also be included free of charge. The even application of law and opportunity– the two most scarce resources that put them in this position.
As Friedman would ask, “Which do you value more, your Lexus or your Olive Tree?”
would a yes answer surprise you? or Duh….
and for sure where I am.
WOW! But I guess we shouldn’t be surprised by this:
Or this:
When you have been giving the opportunity to exploit the system, you become accustomed to exploiting the system. And people don’t take kindly to someone telling them that their time of exploiting the system is over. They will fight even if they don’t have a leg to stand on.
The termerity of this group of Mexicans lawyers coming to America to tell us that our laws are unfair and/or wrong. The laws are finally being enforced!!
Can you even imagine anything remotely close to this happening in the reverse? Mexico would be livid - you know since Americans think we are better than everyone else anyway.
Maybe we should follow in the Mexican Legislators footsteps. Send a delegation to Mexico and complain about the lack of “rule of law”, a free market economy, quality schools, infrastructure, and the rest of the necessities which could be paid for with the oil money from this country. The improvements might create jobs and a future for their own people without their having to leave.
Now that is a poll I would like to see; Ask the population of Mexico if they would rather be Americans (of mexican descent) or Mexicans facing a closed US border. As Fred Ward told Reese Witherspoon in Sweet Home Alabama (Sorry, I’m a movie person), “You can’t ride two horses with one ass.”
Maybe McCain and Lindsay Graham should receive this delgation to lend his support to amnesty and encourage more illegals to invade.
Is this the same federal government that deploys its Army and a heavy police presence on its southern border with Guatemala and Belize to keep out “undocumented” Central and South Americans, while acting like it has no northern border? Good luck waiting for any federal help.
Would someone email this column to all the presidential candidates & ask “what you YOU going to do about this?”
Oh, and another non-report. Hinting that there really is not an illegal alien problem because there have been almost no complaints about hiring of illegal aliens in the first two weeks. Duh!!! What a stupid thing to say. I can’t just walk into a fast food outlet, look at the staff, and proclaim “Jose” is here illegally. This reporter and it’s editor should be fired for terminal stupidity.
Few Complaints in the first two weeks
Indeed, given the reports of Mexico’s attitude towards illegal aliens trying to cross its borders, I can’t help wondering what the laws in Mexico are concerning the hiring and employment of illegal aliens.
This is an outrage! I honestly believe that we’re at a make-or-break point on this issue. As a nation, we either need to take back our country now, or watch the decline of our culture and way of life.
We already have transparency regarding how members of Congress, and other politicians, vote on the issue. That portion of the problem can be rectified at the ballot box. The next step would be transparency with regard to businesses who either hire (or support-via lobbying or contributions) political figures who support open borders. If the majority of Americans were aware of busineses who were undermining the majority’s wishes to close the border, we could boycott them. Hitting them in their wallet, rather than the threat of unenforced laws, would make ‘em shape up in a hurry. We can start with companies like Western Union, and anyone else who wires money without identification. Add in credit card companies who issue cards to illegals.
(Off my soapbox now.)
I saw that news item early this morning, and already fired off an e-mail to the Speakers of the Arizona House, Senate, and the Tuscon Citizen newspaper.
Newsflash for Mexico: This is the United States of America, not the United States of Mexico. We do not have to tailor our laws to fit the human garbage that keeps sneaking across the border. Title 8 of the US Code stipulates the punishment for illegals and those who hire them. “What do we do with the repatriated?”, they ask. Here’s a suggestion: FIX YOUR OWN PROBLEMS. We have enough of our own.
To some degree, I see this delegation as a positive sign for us. While I fervently hope their plea falls on deaf ears, I am hopeful about the fact that they felt it was necessary to come here (even if they are out of their minds).
Perhaps it is an indicator that the new law might actually work.
IT’S ABOUT TIME!
This illustrates 2 problems:
1) Many in Mexico do not recognize the border and consider the Southwest U.S. to still be their land;
2) Too many of our elected officials appear to be bought and paid for by those in Mexico that don’t recognize the border.
We’re in deep trouble.
The Legal Arizona Workers Act has enabled the Mexican Government to step out of the shadows (just as McCain and Kennedy wanted). Hope the ACLU does not spoil it for them. We now know in the light of day what the Mexican Government benefits from its social banditos. Just another taking our country back step.
Neither can we.
Oh come on, get real. We really need to stick to the important issues like:
1. Who really did the most for civil rights. Martin or whitey.
2. Are the boys too rough on girly girl?
3. Who… is the most electable, and who… is currently in the lead and what state they “must” win to keep running.
4. Is it ok to cry?
The imbicile questions like illegal immigration, how to reduce spending, healthcare and terrorism will wait until the next president takes office.
Has spittle Geraldooo interviewed them or their families yet?
Let’s all hope the law works. I’ve seen several stories with anecdotal evidence that it really does.
The really important thing to make happen is using this issue in the election. Hitlary and Obama have no defense and can be hammered relentlessly about this one and it will make a difference. (As long as McCain or Huckabee aren’t our nominee but I seriously doubt that.) For some reason the politicians haven’t grasped how big this is to Americans on both sides of the aisle. It is a guaranteed knock out punch issue for Republicans. Wake up guys!
Mexico has been using us as a safety valve for generations. As long as their people could migrate here, the Mexican elite didn’t have to share the spoils.
Now they’re afraid that they can’t keep up their kleptocracy. Tough.
It’s interesting to me that sometimes the states do the federal government’s job better than the federal government does. This shouldn’t be just Arizona law, but federal law as well. (I believe MM posted an article about an exodus of illegals that already made this point.)
To all those Mexicans *ahem* inconvenienced by this law, what else is there to say but “buena suerte, amigos!” *out*
First thing that went through my mind when I saw this too! They do have some major gumballs south of the border.
Mexicans have a saying: “Poor Mexico; so far from God, so close to the United States.”
Left unaddressed in that lament is the opinion of United States citizens about having to live next door to Mexico, the only country on Earth to strike oil and lose money.
I propose that we send a delegation of Congressional Representatives to Mexico to present their federal and local legislatures with “our” point of view concerning domestic Mexican politics:
“Hey, your rampant corruption and bureacratic inefficiency really upsets Arizona voters! What are you going to do about it?”
Something like that. Just for fun. It’d be the neatest thing we’ve done since the Mexican-American War.
No cuido si usted va con el dios o si usted va solamente… apenas consiga de mi país.
Translation = I don’t care if you go with God or if you go alone … just get out of my country.
Mi casa no es su casa. Afuera!
Washington will have to come to grips eventually unless Arizona’s law gets struck down in court. (That wouldn’t surprise me either.) What will happen is the illegals will simply scatter to other states. That has already begun. The good news is that the public, beyond just the border states will rise up even more and demand this be stopped.
This problem is now front & center, becoming more of a top priority issue for real Americans, and isn’t going away. The party that tackles the problem instead of making it worse, wins big time!
Yes, let’s take advice from a corrupt third world country whose own draconian policies on immigration and foreigners are downright medieval.
Perhaps if they paid attention to solving their own problems rather than trying to export them to the US, their people would not slink into another country.
The real racists and bigots here are those Mexicans who want superior rights for their citizens because of their hispanic origin.
To the Mexican racists: You are not getting any part of the US back. It is ours. Get over it. You can have your people back. And if you don’t take them back immediately, we are going to start billing you for the costs of healthcare, incarceration, welfare, victim compensation and any other cost incurred by the US or a State associated with dealing with your citizens’ presence in this country. We will also ban any and all travel by US citizens to Mexico until you clean up your act.
The American people have had it with your justification of continued theft from US citizens.
Does anyone have a link to this Arizona law online?
I want to find it and forward it to some of my state legislators here in Tennessee.
Barry F.
Here is the AZ legislature website about HR2779 … several links on this page …
Arizona Legal Worker Act
Please take time to also view the video link there … it explains the new law and also refutes many of the BS statements about the law by the open-borders supporters.
Dear Mexico
We would like to refer you to the Malkin Economic Plan line 1: SUCK IT UP!
Love,
Arizona
Sorry … typo on my part in the link …
Trying Again
DesertLover,
The link opens to a blank page. Do you have another one? Thanks.
It seems that a large percentage of the illegals that are here work in the construction business. Put them to work building houses and schools in Sonora. Those not in the construction business can be re-trained as schoolteachers. Use confiscated drug money.
Problem solved.
Ahhh! I found a copy of the Arizona law, HB 2779.
Do you still have another link to the video you mentioned, DesertLover?
Barry F.
I reposted the corrected link in my #51 above … that web page has 4 links on it … the bottom one is a video about the law
BINGO.
Why would Mexico EVER change that profitable trade? Mexico WILL fight to keep the BILLIONS coming from the US and they receive these Billions from their least capable workers, all pure profit.
That is their dream team, the Illegals, as long as they are in the U.S.
# 53 J S Ragman said;
At a news conference Tuesday, they said Sonora cannot handle the demand for housing, jobs and schools
It seems that a large percentage of the illegals that are here work in the construction business. Put them to work building houses and schools in Sonora. Those not in the construction business can be re-trained as schoolteachers. Use confiscated drug money.
Problem solved.
While they’re at it they can build a fence on their side of the border too.
They say that they don’t want Mexican families to be seperated, then keep them on your side of the border until they have LEGAL IMMIGRATION PAPERS!
TWO FENCES ARE BETTER THAN ONE!
#57 madchef
“Good fences make good neighbors.” - Robert Frost.
Sweet justice at last. Now we only have 49 more states to go.
Hey, Sonora, where ya going to put the rest of them?
Michelle, I hope it is ok to post this livejournal addy that I like reading- he has a lot of great facts about the costs of illegal aliens on this contry, and the savings we would get if they were to go. If is is not ok, I appologise.
http://rhjunior.livejournal.com/
Regulus #43~
Our legislators aren’t allowed by Mexican law to petition their government. You might be interested in reading this . I linked to an article discussing Mexico’s hypocrisy when it comes to illegal immigration…
Completed fences, in our case, would make for better ones, JS.
Barry F.
Did you get to the video link?
They sound like criminals crying about having to go to jail after committing a crime. They should have thought of that before helping the invaders get into our country. I have some advice…tell it to someone who gives a damn!
I got the the page you had linked, DesertLover. But something must have been wrong with my Adobe Flashplayer.
I could get the video window to open up but nothing played.
But, I went ahead and e-mailed one of my friends in the TN Legislature with links to the law, the video, etc. Hopefully, they will have better luck getting the video to play than did I.
Barry F.
OK … I just ran the video to check it and it ran fine … just an FYI … it is worth viewing if you do get a chance to do so though …
Note to delegation of Mexican legislators: Iron my serape!
Barry F.
Here is a direct link to the video page …
AZ Worker Law Video
Let me know if that works better …
There was a time when foreign gov’t representatives got permission and were met by the U.S. gov’t. Now, it seems, they just come across our borders and dictate to state/local authorities. Amazing. A BINO. Border in name only.
No. I can go to the page in your new link, DesertLover, but nothing comes up to play.
Hey, wecome to our world…at least they are not illegal immigrants, they’re your own citizens. Deal with it!
In order for a “gringo” to work at a Mexican resort, he/she MUST HAVE a valid Mexican Work Visa. In fact, if I were to move to Mexico, take my fishing charter boat, and plan on using it to earn a living, Mexican Law requires that the boat captain, and deckhands be Mexican citizens. And they think our laws are unfair?
Why shouldn’t they, graysonret? The mass of illegal aliens have already done it and continue to do it. Why wouldn’t the people ushering them to go North?
Better your country than ours. You should have been asking for help from YOUR gov’t all these years. Maybe it wouldn’t have been so awful for your own people to live in their own country.
TexasTiger:
You’re killing me here!
The lawmakers were to travel to Phoenix Wednesday for a breakfast meeting with Hispanic legislators.
What do you bet that American Taxpayers got stuck for the bill!
NO FREE BREAKFAST-NO FREE LUNCHES EITHER!
If this were enforced in every single state of the union, there wouldn’t be any illegal immigration.
You’re right about that, BarryF. It just shows how far down this country has gone.
josetheguerilla
A little clarification …
The permanent ravocation is true if there is a second violation within 5 years of the first violation … the first time is a 10-day suspension of the business license … and then they have to go on a reporting program to the state so that they are monitored for continued compliance …
Employers ARE REQUIRED to use the Basic Pilot Program (BPP) to screen potential employees … if they do so they are protected should someone fall through the federal cracks in the system and get employed even though illegal …
BTW … the new law applies to EVERY EMPLOYER … not just to construction, agricultural, landscaping, restaurants, hotels, etc., …
Many of the open-borders crowd would like to make people think this is only being applied to areas where illegals are most likely working …
That is absolutely not true
Imagine the disgust we feel at having to pay to care for people who aren’t re patriated.
One other fact on the new law … the Arizona Legislature also defined the use of false documentation as a formal “identity theft” crime in this new worker law … and it will also be prosecuted when that happens …
whooops,
so where do the latino’s fit into this?
OBAMA’s CHURCH
they don’t. Neither do any other non-black persons.
So who is the real B. Hussein Obama? I haven’t heard much from him on what appears to be his highest source for spiritual inspiration, a racist ‘pastor’ and seemingly ‘black only’ church.
I didn’t notice from my quick perusal of the law, DesertLover. Does it also provide for prosecution under a “criminal impersonation” charge, if they try to use the identity of an actual person, either living or dead? I’m not sure Arizona has that particular charge, at least by that title on the books, but we have such a charge here in Tennessee.
Does anyone know where John McCain stands on this tough Arizona immigration law? Has he gone on record supporting or opposing it?
McCain has been trying to take credit for cutting spending by stopping the Bridge to Nowhere in almost every speech he gives. The truth is, he didn’t speak out against the bridge when it was being debated and he didn’t show up for key votes. Congress stopped the bridge but didn’t save tax payers a dime because they gave the bridge money to Alaska to spend as they saw fit.
I just have this feeling McCain is going to try to take credit for the Arizona law before the election. But then, after the election is over, he will quietly work to get rid of the law or prevent its enforcement.
If Mexico annexed western United States, in less than ten years “Mexicans” would be swimming the Mississippi to get to Estatas Unitas because the “new” Mexico would be as corupt and unproductive as the old Mexico. And the open boarders activists would still be pushing us to let them in because they only want to take the jobs that AMERICANS won’t do.
Based on Mexico’s laws regarding illegal immigrants to their country, I think we should use the principle of reciprocity in dealing with illegals here. We do the same as they do.
It works between states regarding hunting and fishing licenses and fees.
Barry F.
On the web page I earlier linked with the four items on it … the first link there is about the modification of the identity theft law … (Arizona Law Chapter 279)
Then in the “summary” of the law link under the heading of “Identity Theft” it says the new law …
“Stipulates that a person who knowingly commits identity theft with the intent to obtain employment commits aggravated taking the identity of another person or entity.”
That leaves that act open to separate prosecution under the identity theft statutes … that is so that if the individual got through the BPP system with ID theft then the illegal is still going to be prosecuted for that … and the employer is absolved of blame because they using the BPP system to verify employment status …
Thanks, DesertLover.
Why do they need to go back to Mexico? Bus them all to New Hampshire where they will no doubt be welcomed by the pro-open borders constituency.
Yup…how DARE we, the people of this country, not take the feelings of Mexico into consideration when we try to make laws that concern our country. How can we POSSIBLY make such a law as this. Why, Mexico would NEVER make such a law. They would NEVER make a law that would throw an American in jail for getting into a minor fender bender, for protesting against the Mexican Government, Mexico would NEVER forbid an American from owning property completely in Mexico without any restrictions, Mexico would NEVER think twice about making all their publications that are given out officially by the Government to be made in English and 57 other languages so as not to offend the other people who might just be in their country. Mexico would NEVER create laws forbidding any other person other than Mexicans from working there unless they are legal residents of that country…would NEVER create laws banning “ILLEGAL aliens” from working in their country.
How DARE we here in this country put such a burden on Mexico. A burden that would make them provide FOR THEIR OWN POPULACE. Shame on us. What WERE we thinking. How crass. How gauche. What uncaring, horrible monsters we Americans are, to expect that Mexico actually create a governmental system that can support the people that LIVE there…people called MEXICANS without having to rely on said Mexicans to export them into America to steal our jobs and money, import the money into Mexico and support their country with said money.
I would think that their country, the Mexican Government could be smart enough to come up with a better plan than that to run their country. this little statement by the Mexican Agents alone, prety much harpoons every damn argument that the Open Border Lobbyists and Immigration Liars who ommit the “Illigal” word out of their argument to sway people completely. This is what it is all about folks. This right here. It has nothing to do with the “poor, hapless people coming to seek a better world and life, to do those jobs us lazy and selfish Americans won’t do”. Nope. It is a very complicated and very planned out thing that has been enforced by the Mexican Government for quite some time. If they wanted to stop it, it would have been halted a long, long time ago.
But there is just oo much money in it for them, and frankly, they do no tsupport their own infrastructure. The money goes into the pockets of the corrupt government officials. Period.
Answer:
Creo que es su problema
Si!
Pappa Louie
I believe a clone of A.C., the current Gov. refused to take the money as stipulated for the “bridge”. Congress. to keep the egg off their face then allotted it to be spent as needed.
#88 On January 16th, 2008 at 3:14 pm, GaijinBob said:
‘“There is not one person living in Sonora who does not have a friend or relative working in Arizona,” Amparano said in Spanish.
“What do we do with the repatriated?” he asked.
Why do they need to go back to Mexico? Bus them all to New Hampshire where they will no doubt be welcomed by the pro-open borders constituency.’
Oh no!!
What did my home state do now?
You know what the most pathetic thing to all of this is? Since they can’t get jobs in AZ, they’ll just buzz on over to CA, or TX, or wherever they can.
Like as IF we need more illegals here in CA. We’re burdened enough.
Those illegal aliens ARE doing the job that millions of U.S. citizens won’t do; voting for Hillary Clinton!
RetFireman~
Sounds like you read “Mexico’s Glass House” that I has linked to, or at least the summary I posted…
BAL~
I’m in Texas, and I work in the public schools, currently as a sub. We’re highly affected by the illegals already… With the laws AZ and OK have passed, I think there will be some movement to other states (instead of returning to Mexico), and then residents of those states will demand the same kinds of laws as AZ and OK.
Sorry Miss Ladybug, I haven’t. Is it a case of great minds? Or no…
I am in a hotel eating a candy bar actually. Watching an Underdog cartoon DVD
Washington doesn’t listen. I think we need a new strategy.
I wonder if there isn’t a way to get the jackpot baby program into the courts? That’s one of the main obstacles to enforcement–more and more Hispanics voting race over country as time passes. Hispanic women popped out an incredible one million babies in the US this past year.
Clearly despite the accidental language of the 14th amendment, the authors obviously intended it to protect children of slaves, not reward border sneaks with citizenship for their jackpot babies. How could they have envisioned politicians like Bush, McCain, Kennedy, Durbin, et. al., who are so corrupt they encourage invasion of our nation?
GaijinBob said:
granite said:
Voted for Mr. Shamnesty himself, Señor Juan McCain.
It’s time to start feeling to full effect of their open-borders ideology like us border-state residents have for years.
I am with Rifleman here and the Mexican Federal Gov’t should spend its energy on getting jobs for Mexicans then worry about USA’s laws. Even if Mexico retained the southwest, would they drive it to the poverty level of the rest of old Mexico? How many people in general in the southwest would prefer Mexico running things if all they could get from the Mexican Government was more poverty? Would Mexico want Canada to open up its borders too? You can’t be the basket case of poverty forever, you will run out of nations to export your folks.