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I find the whole state monitored and forced compliance idea anathema to American values.

For my part, if they ever implement such a mandatory government scheme where I live, I’ll go to the Franklin stove for heat and go “off the grid” for required electricity.

Our Founding Fathers must be rolling over in their graves.

But at least for now, the energy mandarins say they respect the importance of Californians making their own decisions.

At least for now – BUT not for the NEW HOMES – hehehe

Sorry folks, tried to read through but couldn’t help to jump to comment.

In a word – my state is screwed. (and so goes the country since CA econ is so pervasive! so wake up!)

Arnold tried to fight the good fight but there is NO fight in CA government. All houses of representation are held by Dems.

Not even really dems….just reflective politicians that like the money generated from fired up activists.

There is one prominent dem that started a “stop the war” campaign solely to raise money for his other pet causes and future campaign runs.

If anyone needs to understand the quagmire that is California — make no mistake will be every state — as much as it sounds arrogant, it’s not. It’s a realism that screwed up CA governing is on it’s way….

Read This

I will reprint the last paragragh for you all to behold (I am deadly serious)

At some point we Californians should ask ourselves how we inherited a state with near perfect weather, the world’s richest agriculture, plentiful timber, minerals, and oil, two great ports at Los Angeles and Oakland, a natural tourist industry from Carmel to Yosemite, industries such as Silicon Valley, Hollywood, and aerospace — and serially managed to turn all of that into the nation’s largest penal system, periodic near bankruptcy, and sky-high taxes.

The first time I ever flew into LAX, my boss noticed the tall, fancy light-towers at the front entrance on Century Blvd.

He noticed this because it was the height of the Gray-out Davis brown-out period.

And they had these fancy light towers going full blast.

Now I live here. I think I’m the idiot.

On January 18th, 2008 at 7:32 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

They don’t need to come into your home to take away your energy. They already do it regularly from the outside with rolling blackouts and brownouts. This current system of managing demand by cutting us off will have to continue for the forseeable future.

I find the whole state monitored and forced compliance idea anathema to American values.

Conservation is important. Its cost benefits are the cheapest to realize and apply to both the consumer and the providers. But if they see remote controlled thermostats as a viable means to this goal they should use the market to implement them. Offer discounts to businesses that would be willing to install them. The market will work out what is tolerable and most efficient to consumers.

Of course it needs to be coupled with generation capacity increases. CA suffers now because capacity increases wre not invested in for almost 2 decades. This happened for a number of reasons. The energy companies were in financial doldrums for most of the 1990s and since 2002. They chose not to make the capital investments for financial self interest.

But more then any of the reasons mentioned in the thread, enviormental restrictions, failure of the nuclear industry, etc., the controlling reason was the utter failure of the CA Governemts’s plan to deregulate the energy markets. To avoid throwing the market into chaos with a sudden rollout they hemmed and hawed and finally improperly implemented a schedule of half step measures.

This resulted in a decade plus of uncertainity in what to expect in energy pricing. The energy generating companies could not make sound financial plans and shelved all new powerplant building.

This is the primary reason why CA is in the energy crisis it is in. And why it pays such high prices. This poorly implemented CA Gov. deregulation plan also failed to anticipate the loopholes Enron found to exploit when they set up their speculative energy trading. Some odf Enron’s market manipulations were illegal but others were not. As such CA consumers are locked into deacades long contracts their power distribution companies were forced to buy at the height of the price bubble.

An initiative to control the thermostats of private homes and businesses has bit the dust.
Investor’s Business Daily had a good review of the proposal on Jan. 15 – only three days ago – and to say that people freaked out about the Big Brother con…

New building-efficiency standards drawn up by the commission would have required new buildings to include remote-controlled thermostats that could allow utilities to control a building’s air-conditioning or heating during power emergencies

i.e global warming???

“While more needs to be done to keep up with the needs of our ever-increasing population, it’s not the job of the (state) to go into peoples’ homes and control their thermostats,” he said.

Yeah, it’s called unreasonable search and seizure. 4th amendment. And believe me, I would’ve found SOMEONE to take this to court.

A review of the 4th:

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Tha gall of CA thinking they can come into my house and “take” my energy away from me. I’m paying for it.

This just makes my blood boil. Bad enough I have to give 10% of my income to this state.

Yeah, and they talk about a growing state. Well, it wouldn’t be growing so much if we didn’t have millions of illegals here in the first place.