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	<title>Comments on: An Iraq war hero&#8217;s widow in need</title>
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		<title>By: terrig</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/21/an-iraq-war-heros-widow-in-need/comment-page-1/#comment-257103</link>
		<dc:creator>terrig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers for Michelle on #5.  I clicked and gave some too.  I have had a knock on my door twice but they were wearing BDU&#039;s so I knew he was alive.  My head was spinning though so can&#039;t begrudge what she did.  Grief is a strange thing and we never know how we&#039;re going to react unless we&#039;re in that situation.  
Looks like they were at MCB Kaneohe from that picture.
As for the trolls, it&#039;s sad that their lives are so small.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers for Michelle on #5.  I clicked and gave some too.  I have had a knock on my door twice but they were wearing BDU&#8217;s so I knew he was alive.  My head was spinning though so can&#8217;t begrudge what she did.  Grief is a strange thing and we never know how we&#8217;re going to react unless we&#8217;re in that situation.<br />
Looks like they were at MCB Kaneohe from that picture.<br />
As for the trolls, it&#8217;s sad that their lives are so small.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/21/an-iraq-war-heros-widow-in-need/comment-page-1/#comment-224007</link>
		<dc:creator>dakine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another spot on post DougT...I agree 100% with your takes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another spot on post DougT&#8230;I agree 100% with your takes.</p>
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		<title>By: Merry Christmas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merry Christmas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle, Thank you for shedding light on the plight of this widow. I just sent a gift to her through Paypal. It boils my blood when opportunists exploit the faith of believers in Christ to line their own pockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle, Thank you for shedding light on the plight of this widow. I just sent a gift to her through Paypal. It boils my blood when opportunists exploit the faith of believers in Christ to line their own pockets.</p>
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		<title>By: pwadams</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/21/an-iraq-war-heros-widow-in-need/comment-page-1/#comment-223563</link>
		<dc:creator>pwadams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expose and shame them, make them lose their family and any current jobs, drive off their customers or church members- and then sue them into liquidating their cars and houses to pay her back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expose and shame them, make them lose their family and any current jobs, drive off their customers or church members- and then sue them into liquidating their cars and houses to pay her back.</p>
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		<title>By: pwadams</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/21/an-iraq-war-heros-widow-in-need/comment-page-1/#comment-223531</link>
		<dc:creator>pwadams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why dont they start out by exposing Jeff and Ken and the church that this &quot;evangelist&quot; was operating from- make them infamous across the entire country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why dont they start out by exposing Jeff and Ken and the church that this &#8220;evangelist&#8221; was operating from- make them infamous across the entire country.</p>
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		<title>By: bour3</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/21/an-iraq-war-heros-widow-in-need/comment-page-1/#comment-223471</link>
		<dc:creator>bour3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a person begins, &quot;I don&#039;t understand ...&quot; then goes into something perfectly understandable, and then is answered beautifully, eloquently and graciously, &lt;i&gt;and then&lt;/i&gt;  the person restates the original statement using the same construction, &quot;Yes, but I just don&#039;t understand ...&quot;, what they&#039;re doing there is telling you they&#039;ve decided to resolutely not understand.  It&#039;s not gonna happen, because fitting that answer, hearing it and making the appropriate adjustment, would be entirely too wrenching an experience for existing constructs.  All you&#039;ll ever get is obdurate obstinacy.  It&#039;s a protection mechanism, and a rather solid one at that. 

I&#039;ve had to pay for my mistakes.
And I&#039;ve had to pay for mistakes made by others.
And I&#039;ve been greatly cheered when good people understood what I&#039;ve endured, tossed some bucks my way and helped out a few times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a person begins, &#8220;I don&#8217;t understand &#8230;&#8221; then goes into something perfectly understandable, and then is answered beautifully, eloquently and graciously, <i>and then</i>  the person restates the original statement using the same construction, &#8220;Yes, but I just don&#8217;t understand &#8230;&#8221;, what they&#8217;re doing there is telling you they&#8217;ve decided to resolutely not understand.  It&#8217;s not gonna happen, because fitting that answer, hearing it and making the appropriate adjustment, would be entirely too wrenching an experience for existing constructs.  All you&#8217;ll ever get is obdurate obstinacy.  It&#8217;s a protection mechanism, and a rather solid one at that. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had to pay for my mistakes.<br />
And I&#8217;ve had to pay for mistakes made by others.<br />
And I&#8217;ve been greatly cheered when good people understood what I&#8217;ve endured, tossed some bucks my way and helped out a few times.</p>
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		<title>By: sfcmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>sfcmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were all kinds of red flags, not the least of which were:

Introducing a stranger to &quot;confirm&quot; a return on investment, without checking the story for legitimacy, Jeff&#039;s &quot;confession&quot; that his good buddy Ken had been pocketing the money, PayPal &quot;shutting them down&quot;, and the disappearing contract. But then she turns around and helps this guy buy &lt;em&gt;another truckload&lt;/em&gt; of electronics to &quot;recoup her losses&quot;, after she had already been ripped off for over 40 grand???? 

She&#039;s a kind-hearted person and her intentions were good, but there are limits to how much &quot;trust&quot; should be tolerated. The approach used by the two con artists are similar to the e-mail scams originating from Ethiopia: 
&quot;I have money that&#039;s owed me, but I need some money to get it, and I&#039;ll give you a cut...&quot; All those warning signs and no alarm bells went off? Unfortunately, Jeff and Ken saw an easy mark and she&#039;s poorer by 50 thou. I do hope they caught the slugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were all kinds of red flags, not the least of which were:</p>
<p>Introducing a stranger to &#8220;confirm&#8221; a return on investment, without checking the story for legitimacy, Jeff&#8217;s &#8220;confession&#8221; that his good buddy Ken had been pocketing the money, PayPal &#8220;shutting them down&#8221;, and the disappearing contract. But then she turns around and helps this guy buy <em>another truckload</em> of electronics to &#8220;recoup her losses&#8221;, after she had already been ripped off for over 40 grand???? </p>
<p>She&#8217;s a kind-hearted person and her intentions were good, but there are limits to how much &#8220;trust&#8221; should be tolerated. The approach used by the two con artists are similar to the e-mail scams originating from Ethiopia:<br />
&#8220;I have money that&#8217;s owed me, but I need some money to get it, and I&#8217;ll give you a cut&#8230;&#8221; All those warning signs and no alarm bells went off? Unfortunately, Jeff and Ken saw an easy mark and she&#8217;s poorer by 50 thou. I do hope they caught the slugs.</p>
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		<title>By: stoutrepublican</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/21/an-iraq-war-heros-widow-in-need/comment-page-1/#comment-223247</link>
		<dc:creator>stoutrepublican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it a zero sum game for people like sausage.  

We have to give to everyone via taxes, or we have to be callous and give to no one?  I guess people don&#039;t have the intelligence to disburse their own money as they see fit...the government needs to step in and moderate, or someone likes sausage needs to point the finger at where our money is truly deserved and should go.  All hail the arbiter of charitable giving.

I&#039;ve never heard anyone bitch about a private fundraiser for someone in need, let alone a widow.  There&#039;s that liberal empathy we hear about so much...guess you have to be in their camp to be cared for.  Lockstep group think gets you compassion...think differently, your sacrifices and decisions are ridiculed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it a zero sum game for people like sausage.  </p>
<p>We have to give to everyone via taxes, or we have to be callous and give to no one?  I guess people don&#8217;t have the intelligence to disburse their own money as they see fit&#8230;the government needs to step in and moderate, or someone likes sausage needs to point the finger at where our money is truly deserved and should go.  All hail the arbiter of charitable giving.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never heard anyone bitch about a private fundraiser for someone in need, let alone a widow.  There&#8217;s that liberal empathy we hear about so much&#8230;guess you have to be in their camp to be cared for.  Lockstep group think gets you compassion&#8230;think differently, your sacrifices and decisions are ridiculed.</p>
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		<title>By: docflash</title>
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		<dc:creator>docflash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You never want to know what goes into the sausage mix but in this case you sure know what comes out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You never want to know what goes into the sausage mix but in this case you sure know what comes out.</p>
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		<title>By: nyc123me</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/21/an-iraq-war-heros-widow-in-need/comment-page-1/#comment-223189</link>
		<dc:creator>nyc123me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, focus on the post, not the idiot commenter. Priorities..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, focus on the post, not the idiot commenter. Priorities..</p>
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		<title>By: and Im all out of bubblegum</title>
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		<dc:creator>and Im all out of bubblegum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You all &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; realize that the &lt;strike&gt;troll&lt;/strike&gt; fellow concerned citizen sausage is probably at home (in mom&#039;s basement), laughing with glee whilst playing with his own feces, pleased-as-pie that we are continuing to speak about him.  Just let it die...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You all <em>do</em> realize that the <strike>troll</strike> fellow concerned citizen sausage is probably at home (in mom&#8217;s basement), laughing with glee whilst playing with his own feces, pleased-as-pie that we are continuing to speak about him.  Just let it die&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: WarTip</title>
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		<dc:creator>WarTip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, as I read the article, unfortunately it seems she kept quiet about the entire episode (For whatever reason she may have had) until the statute of limitations had already passed. A little Texas (Though Hillbilly would be more fun) Justice is not a bad idea. It served our nation well back when she was still great and proud and it would not hurt to return her to her former glory as far as I am concerned. 
This woman has suffered two grave injustices, neither of which she asked for. One was in accepting that her husband was willing to lay down his life so that others may enjoy their freedoms. The other was in the guise of &quot;christian&quot; brethren who will some day answer to the Man upstairs. In the meantime, should a little justice be delivered, it may yet serve its purpose. Even here in the Philippines I will do what I can to help this woman. One would think the criers of victimhood would appreciate a true victim in a cruel and unforgiving world. 

On a personal note, me thinks that sausage is just upset because he seems to be afflicted with liberalism that has left him sausageless. And yes! That is a personal attack on you! Your (lack of) character and any misguided (ill)logic you believe that you possess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, as I read the article, unfortunately it seems she kept quiet about the entire episode (For whatever reason she may have had) until the statute of limitations had already passed. A little Texas (Though Hillbilly would be more fun) Justice is not a bad idea. It served our nation well back when she was still great and proud and it would not hurt to return her to her former glory as far as I am concerned.<br />
This woman has suffered two grave injustices, neither of which she asked for. One was in accepting that her husband was willing to lay down his life so that others may enjoy their freedoms. The other was in the guise of &#8220;christian&#8221; brethren who will some day answer to the Man upstairs. In the meantime, should a little justice be delivered, it may yet serve its purpose. Even here in the Philippines I will do what I can to help this woman. One would think the criers of victimhood would appreciate a true victim in a cruel and unforgiving world. </p>
<p>On a personal note, me thinks that sausage is just upset because he seems to be afflicted with liberalism that has left him sausageless. And yes! That is a personal attack on you! Your (lack of) character and any misguided (ill)logic you believe that you possess.</p>
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		<title>By: crashemt</title>
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		<dc:creator>crashemt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On January 21st, 2008 at 10:49 am, sausage said:

What happened to the asinine Suck. It. Up touted on this very site for people making equally stupid decisions when it comes to their mortgages?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This just tells me that you, Sausage, do not understand.

There is a &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;MASSIVE DIFFERENCE&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; between being charitable directly, as in this case of asking us to directly support a widow with a serious problem, and being forced to be charitable by an inefficent and corrupt government structure.

In this case, I know what the cause is, I know where the money is going, and &lt;em&gt;I make the choice to support or not support this individual&lt;/em&gt;.  This is true Christian/Muslim/Jewish charity.  No where in any of those guiding priciples does it state to give your support through a faceless and corrupt system in the hopes that maybe someone who really needs the help might get it, while thousands of fraudulent claims and corrupt politicians line their pockets in the process.

What you encourage &lt;em&gt;is the problem&lt;/em&gt;.  Government is not, nor has it ever been, the answer.  Even our founding fathers knew this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.&quot;

   Thomas Paine &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Why is it, that a people who &quot;claim&quot; to be so afraid of the abuse of government to our rights and freedoms, are so willing to freely transfer their moral and civic individual duties to that same government, thereby giving that government the exact power they so fear?

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government.&quot; 

Daniel Webster &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On January 21st, 2008 at 10:49 am, sausage said:</p>
<p>What happened to the asinine Suck. It. Up touted on this very site for people making equally stupid decisions when it comes to their mortgages?</p></blockquote>
<p>This just tells me that you, Sausage, do not understand.</p>
<p>There is a <strong><em>MASSIVE DIFFERENCE</em></strong> between being charitable directly, as in this case of asking us to directly support a widow with a serious problem, and being forced to be charitable by an inefficent and corrupt government structure.</p>
<p>In this case, I know what the cause is, I know where the money is going, and <em>I make the choice to support or not support this individual</em>.  This is true Christian/Muslim/Jewish charity.  No where in any of those guiding priciples does it state to give your support through a faceless and corrupt system in the hopes that maybe someone who really needs the help might get it, while thousands of fraudulent claims and corrupt politicians line their pockets in the process.</p>
<p>What you encourage <em>is the problem</em>.  Government is not, nor has it ever been, the answer.  Even our founding fathers knew this:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.&#8221;</p>
<p>   Thomas Paine </p></blockquote>
<p>Why is it, that a people who &#8220;claim&#8221; to be so afraid of the abuse of government to our rights and freedoms, are so willing to freely transfer their moral and civic individual duties to that same government, thereby giving that government the exact power they so fear?</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government.&#8221; </p>
<p>Daniel Webster </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Dave from Flint</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave from Flint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in.</p>
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		<title>By: meatpieandtatters</title>
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		<dc:creator>meatpieandtatters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sausage yet again proves that a ninny with a chip on his shoulder can demonstrate crude, callous disregard for even the most basic human considerations. 

Congratulations sausage aka wiener. At least on this count you&#039;ve scored a perfect 100%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sausage yet again proves that a ninny with a chip on his shoulder can demonstrate crude, callous disregard for even the most basic human considerations. </p>
<p>Congratulations sausage aka wiener. At least on this count you&#8217;ve scored a perfect 100%.</p>
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