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SC Democrat debate: Punch, Judy, and Silky; Update: Squabbling, mud-slinging, the gloves are off!

By Michelle Malkin  •  January 21, 2008 07:21 PM

Update 10:55pm Eastern. I agree with every word of this:

RNC Chairman Robert M. “Mike” Duncan released the following statement tonight:

“For once, I found myself agreeing with Senators Clinton and Obama: Senator Clinton is right that Obama doesn’t have enough experience to lead, and Senator Obama is correct that Clinton cannot be trusted. Tonight’s debate was further evidence that Senators Clinton and Obama would lead America toward higher taxes and less security. With America’s economy facing challenges, the Democrats’ tax-and-spend policies would be catastrophic. The Democrats’ liberal plans are a stark contrast to the Republican candidates’ commitment to winning the War on Terror and keeping taxes low for hard-working families.”

As I noted below, Hillary’s answer to the question about whether she wants to end the war or win it (she channeled Cindy Sheehan’s “Bring the Troops Home Now” bumper sticker propaganda) was one of the most damning, telling, clarifying moments of the night.

Update 10:45pm Eastern. I put together a little Hillary-Barack photo album here with a few misty, water-colored images and scattered pictures of the snarls they left behind.

Update 10:30pm Eastern. Here’s the vid of the “Was Clinton the first black president?” question.

What Obama should have said: “It depends on what the meaning of ‘black’ is.”

Update 10:10pm Eastern. Post-debate thoughts…

That was quite a change from the Democrat debate snooze-fest in Nevada last week. Total 180. Obama showed he can stand up to Shrillary face-to-face while remaining fairly unflappable and maintaining good humor. Shrillary, on the other hand, can’t keep a straight face and even voice despite “finding her voice” in New Hampshire. They both have The Glare. Edwards relishes his White Male Candidate label way too much.

Bill Clinton probably stayed awake for the whole thing.

And finally: I really, really don’t want any of these Big Government surrendercrats sitting in the White House.

Update 10:02pm Eastern. Last question: Why would MLK endorse you, if he were alive today?

Shorter Edwards: I talked to his family members. I’m against poverty. I’m for equality.

Shorter Obama: I don’t think Dr. King would endorse any of us. Change happens from the bottom-up.

Shorter Clinton: Screw Obama. I understand King better than him. I have better black supporters than him.

Debate is over. Obama moves as far away from Clinton as possible. Mingling on stage: Chelsea, Howard Dean, and John Edwards.

Update 9:55pm Eastern. Hillary argues that she is better positioned than anyone else to take on John McCain on national security. If it’s a typical GOP campaign: “I’ve been there, I’ve done that.” Edwards bloviates about campaign finance, “corporate lobbyists,” attacks Hillary. Hillary says she’ll have “honest people” in the White House.

Pffffffffffft.

Hillary attacks Obama for employing lobbyists in SC. Obama shakes his head. Obambi: “No one’s hands are perfectly clean in politics.” Challenges her national security self-crowning. Obama mocks Hillary’s vote for the war, with reservations, John McCain-lite approach. “We have to describe a new foreign policy I will meet not just with our friends, but with our enemies.”

Shorter Obama: No more fear-mongering. Lots more enemy-embracing.

Chaaaaange!

Update 9:47pm Eastern. Interesting. John Edwards asserts that the likely GOP nominee will be John McCain. Silky asks: “Who will be best able to compete, strongest, against McCain? Are we competitive in the rural areas?” Edwards apologizes against for being the “white guy.” Ack. Blechh. “We need to be able to have a candidate…anywhere in America…I can win.”

Well, I suppose that’s his VP pitch. And self-delusional pipe dream.

Update 9:41pm Eastern. Malveaux asks Hillary if Bill is overshadowing her. HRC: He’s “passionate.” Standard talking points about experience, being ready from day one, blahblah. Attacks Bush.

Obama: All of us have smart and effective advocates in our spouses. I would expect Clinton would campaign vigorously on your behalf. I have been troubled [by] my record not being accurately portrayed…shifts to the need to redraw the political map…the truth is that we as Democrats have not had a working majority in a very long time…that can push through the bold initiatives we have all proposed.

“Bold initiatives.”

Ack. Where’s my wallet?

Update 9:39pm Eastern. The liberal kumbaya continues. Hillary recycles the old feminst canard about unequal pay (women making 77 cents for every dollar a man makes).

Update 9:32pm Eastern. Joe Johns quotes Toni Morrison’s infamous black president praise for Bill Clinton and asks Obama: “Do you think Bill Clinton was our first black president?”

Laughter.

Obama chuckles, pauses. He had an affinity with the black community. This I’m serious about. I’m always inspired by young men and women who grew up in the South, when segregation was still taking place…and to see that transformation in their own lives…powerful, hopeful…people can change…each successive generation can create a different vision of how we treat each other…he deserves credit for that (smattering of applause)…I would have to investigate more Bill’s dancing abilities…before I accurately judge whether in fact he was a brother…

Applause, laughter…

Hillary: “I’m sure that can be arranged.” Launches into a bogus kumbuya speech.

Obama: “I’m especially appreciate that Hillary and Edwards are giving me a tough time, because it shows I’m doing pretty good. Don’t want too much civility.”

Obama then cautions against ignoring racism. Differential sentencing, civil rights.

Update 9:29pm Eastern. Obama challenges the race obsession of the MSM. Says it undersells the American people. Wants to move beyond race. Jokes that he can understand why media focuses on a black candidate, a woman, “and John” (laughter) — reaches out and touches Edwards — but people want to move on.
(Applause).

Edwards goes back to talking about poverty and brags about “being in a fight with Bill O’Reilly” over homeless veterans. Poverty anecdote time.

Update 9:20pm Eastern. We’re back. Blitzer goes to Obama to raise Hillary supporter Charlie Rangel’s remarks that black people shouldn’t vote for a black candidate just to feel good. Obama says Rangel has miscalculated who’s the best candidate and looks forward to working with him when he’s president. Edwards pats himself on the back for working hardest for black voters. Hillary name-drops Marian Wright Edelman. Limited applause.

Remember when I noted below that John Edwards’ Southern accent seems super-Southernized tonight? I swear Hillary’s starting to slide into her Selma accent, too.

Obama challenges Edwards’ claim that he doesn’t have a poverty plan. Ewww. Edwards just touched Obama.

Update 9:12pm Eastern. Time for a commercial break and set change. They’re going to have them seated instead of standing. It’ll be a bonanza for the “body language experts.”

Meantime, here’s the vid of the first mud-slinging exchange I blogged below (thanks to Bryan for clipping):

Update 9:04pm Eastern. Topic switch to Iraq. Johns to Hillary: “Are you looking to end this war or win it?” Hillary: “I’m looking to bring the troops home.”

Bad, bad answer in a general election. She’s asked whether she wants America to win and she responds with Code Pink pabulum–at a time when anti-war groups themselves have retreated from their agenda?

Edwards demands withdrawal in one year. Obama gives a careful answer about leaving safely and making sure the troops are safe. Hillary bashes Bush.

Update 8:53pm Eastern. Joe Johns asks if Obama’s health plan covers 12 million illegal aliens? “No, it does not.” Why not? “Because we have limited resources…Americans first…”

Straightforward. Refreshing to hear in a donkey debate.

Okay, is Joe Johns going to ask Hillary the same question? Or give her a pass?

Waiting…

Edwards says “none of our plans would cover” illegal aliens. Turns to attack Obama’s plan for not mandating coverage for everyone. (Background here.) Edwards pats himself on the back for not taking lobbying money.

Still waiting for Hillary to get the illegal alien question…

She gets to talk universal health care. “It’s a core Democrat principle…I’m not giving in. I’m not giving up.” She’s shouting. Red meat for liberals. Or blue meat, rather. Hillary’s on the attack against Obama again. “I’m not running for president to put band-aids for our problems!!!!”

Obama is calm and sticks to defending his plan.

Edwards tries to interrupt. Down, Silky Pony, down.

Update 8:51pm Eastern. Suzanne Agenda-Pusher Malveaux asks Hillary a softball question about AIDS and black women. Why doesn’t she just quit CNN and join her campaign already?

Update 8:48pm Eastern. Edwards piles on Obama about his present votes in Illinois. Obama turns the attack into an opportunity to talk about votes he took “because it was the right thing to do…I haven’t simply followed. I have led.”

Update 8:36pm Eastern. Barf. John Edwards panders to the race demagogues and bemoans predatory lenders. Wait a minute. Didn’t John Edwards have investing ties to subprime lenders? Why, yes. Yes, he did. Did CNN’s bright bulbs bother to mention this? Why, no. No, they didn’t.

Obama crusades against predatory lending, too. Here’s a reminder from Thomas Sowell debunking the racial profiling propaganda.

Obama gets to respond to Rezko attack. He answers straightforwardly and hammers on the trust issue again. (Applause)

Hillary attacks Obama on health care work in Illinois. “You can’t expect to have a hands-off attitude about your record.” Hillary’s voice goes up.

Hillary says Obama doesn’t take responsibility for his votes. (BOOS! from audience)

Hillary slams Obama for voting “present” during Illinois state terms.

Obama challenges Hillary’s characterization of his state legislative record.

Obama to Hillary: “People are not just willing to say anything to get elected.” (Applause.) Your criticism are not accurate.

Update 8:23pm Eastern. Malveaux asks Obama to respond to charge from Hillary that he’s not as fiscally responsible.

***Obama attacks Hillary and her husband for saying things that are not true.***

Applause.

When Sen. Clinton or Bill Clinton attacks his record, it’s not true.

Hillary smiles: “Your record and what you say does matter.” They are glaring at each other. He has said that he really liked the ideas of the Republicans over the last 10-15 years. “I personally think they had ideas and that they were bad ideas.”

No evidence about how you would pay for programs. I want to be explicit about this. We are not- neither I nor my campaign - saying that you didn’t oppose the war in Iraq…it’s after…the next year, that you agreed with Bush on conduct of the war…more about the distinction between words and action…

Obama gets to respond:

Hillary, I will be happy to give you all the information.

Obama defends his Reagan remarks. While I was fighting fatcats on the streets, you were a corporate lawyer. (Applause). I wasn’t talking about their policies. Talking about transformative agenda. Appeal to independents and Republicans. Let me finish. (Applause).

You provided much more fulsome praise of Reagan in a book my Tom Brokaw, as did your husband.

Hillary’s head is going to explode. “We’re just geting warmed up.”

I think we both have passionate and committed spouses and I’m proud of that…

Hillary tries to frame Obama’s GOP/Reagan comments…She slams Obama for his connection to Chicago developer Tony Rezko. Audience boos.

Edwards interrupts. “There’s three people in this debate.” Edwards attacks Hillary on fiscal responsibility.

Update 8:18pm Eastern. Edwards bashes NAFTA. Obama joins in, defends the trade deal with Peru, attacks Edwards on trade agreement with China.

Blitzer cuts off that discussion to throw back to Hillary on the stimulus. Rescues her from answering the trade challenge. Calls the world markets fall-off today a “wake-up call.” Attacks Bush again for not doling out enough money.

Give young people jobs “putting solar panels in.”

Solar panel installation work for all!

John Edwards promises to create “green collar jobs” in 30 days.

Solar panel installation work for all…faster!

Update 8:09pm Eastern. Joe Johns asks Clinton the first question on the economy. “How much would your stimulus plan put in the pockets of the average American?”

Housing czarina Hillary jumps right in attacking Bush for “not taking it seriously enough.” She reiterates vow to freeze interest rates for five years, pay for people’s energy bills, “jump start” jobs, and create “green collar” jobs.

Obama’s turn to attack Bush. He points out that Clinton did not originally propose tax rebates like he did. Repeats Dem line that rebates should go to those who don’t pay income taxes.

Pay attention, folks. The fiscal stimulus is being transmogrified into a straight redistribution plan.

Edwards’ plan does not include tax rebates. He repeats the Dem line pushing expansion of the rebates a la Clinton and Obama and Schumer.

Is it me or does Edwards’ accent sound more Southern than usual? He segues into a protectionist rant.

Update 8:03pm. The three donkeys have just been introduced. CNN is doing that weirdo thing again with the paparazzi clustered up at the stage for a contrived photo-op. Oh, no: Suzanne Stage Mother Malveaux is commenting and will be asking questions (pushing her liberal agenda).

***
7:21pm Eastern. We begin again with another Democrat “debate,” conversation, passive-aggressive snipefest, talking points regurgitation, what have you, at 8pm Eastern tonight. Hopefully, they’ll have more energy than sleepy Bill dozing behind the pulpit. His purple fits seem to have exhausted him.

Will any of the CNN debate moderators have the guts to bring up The Big He’s role in The Big She’s campaign?

Snort-worthy food for thought from the NYPost cover art crew as we wait for the circus to commence:

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  1. #1
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:27 pm, pclevenger said:

    One head tries to charm you while the other turns you to stone.

  2. #2
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:29 pm, Barry F. said:

    Every time I think about the Clinton’s campaign, I keep thinking of a t-shirt I saw. ROFL

  3. #3
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:35 pm, John Ansell said:

    I wonder if Bill can stay awake for this? Michelle, can you have a contest on naming the video of Clinton falling asleep at the MLK Service today?

  4. #4
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:35 pm, bear1909 said:

    imagine Inauguration Day if Hillary wins. Bill on the stage waving to the world.

    How would she even be President with that guy around?

  5. #5
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:37 pm, Wethal said:

    How delightful it would be if Obama would start out by shaking Hillary’s hand as they meet before the debate, and say, “Bill’s not here tonight? Back in NY catching upon his sleep?”

  6. #6
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:37 pm, John Ansell said:

    Oops, sorry Michelle, didn’t see your link above. Thanks.

  7. #7
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:38 pm, Wethal said:

    This should make the front of the NYPost tomorrow, with another classic NYPost headline.

  8. #8
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:39 pm, ajmontana said:

    the west coast version has the monster with three heads Pelosi, Boxer and Feinstein. Both just as venomous and ugly wanting to shred America to pieces.

  9. #9
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:40 pm, John Ansell said:

    LOL AJ, Did they eat Reid?

  10. #10
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:44 pm, scubadawg said:

    I wish someone would ask how we are going to pay for the approximately 54 Trillion dollars that we are currently obligated for to cover Medicaid and Social Security in the future. This is according to David Walker Comptoller general of the USA. Instead they are all talking about how they are going to pay for universal health care by letting the tax cuts expire. What a joke. No one calls them on this. Just to pay for the shortfall in Medicare and Social Security we need to take away 90% of the net worth of every American. This liability is $440,000 per household. I for one to not have that kind of money. We must make drastic change to the entitlement programs already on the books not add more new entitlements.

  11. #11
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:45 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    LMAO, Priceless,That was great, Bill was so bored cause he was’nt listening to himself speak.

  12. #12
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:46 pm, John Ansell said:

    The President Bill sleeping Pill; For those time when you really need to catch some shut eye.

  13. #13
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:47 pm, John Ansell said:

    Time= Times

  14. #14
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:52 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    Pander, pander, pander…..

  15. #15
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:53 pm, lgm said:

    Think the main stream media (largest circulation “newspaper” in New York City) has a liberal bias? Look at the front page graphic and think again.

    I prefer Obama to Clinton, but geeze!

  16. #16
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:02 pm, ShoreMark said:

    Decisions, decisions. Dem debate or Prison Break; Dem debate or Sarah Connors…

    No contest!

  17. #17
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:04 pm, gayle said:

    zzzzzzzzzz so far

  18. #18
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:07 pm, IrishEi said:

    6 minutes in, and we’re still doing “housekeeping.” yawn.

  19. #19
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:07 pm, ajmontana said:

    and heressssss wolfy! still just see him as the farm report guy doin the pig thang…dork.

  20. #20
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:09 pm, trailortrash said:

    is it just me or does hill have on more makeup then usual?

  21. #21
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:09 pm, right_on said:

    The Dem’s need to watch the new movie about Hillary Clinton before super Tuesday…if the court allows it to be shown (the Clinton camp is trying this week to get the movie suppressed on grounds that it violates federal election rules on political advertising, even though it supports NO candidate.) Maybe then they will ask the right questions for a change. (Ha, “change”)

  22. #22
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:09 pm, ajmontana said:

    her stimulus plan? she has to buy the batteries for it.

  23. #23
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:10 pm, gayle said:

    Same ole crap Hill.

    Who’s buying?

  24. #24
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:10 pm, IrishEi said:

    That 2 minutes from Hillary just cost us about $150 billion–that’s my low ball estimate.

  25. #25
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:11 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Oh, where was the Post before the carpetbaggers came to town?… And yes I am ignoring lgm. Again.

  26. #26
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:11 pm, normsrevenge said:

    90 day delay on foreclosures

    650 bucks for energy this winter..

    and much much more FRom Hillary

    she’s just the giving type.

    gives folks the willies..

  27. #27
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:11 pm, gayle said:

    These same dang people standing at the podium have contributed to the ongoing problems.

    How can they NOW solve them?

  28. #28
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:11 pm, Lars said:

    I can’t take 5 mins. of Shillary. She is sooo full of it! Bad unemployment, bad stim plan, bad, bad BUUUSH! BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

  29. #29
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:13 pm, normsrevenge said:

    tax rebates for everybody .. sez Obama
    Now..

    edwards says no tax rebate in his plan..

  30. #30
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:13 pm, mngirl said:

    Hillary and her stimulous package. Has she forgotten she’s a US Senator and that is the job she’s currently being paid to do?

    If she thinks Bush’s legislation leaves seniors out, go do something about it. She’s all talk and no action and she’s going to monopolize the time in this damn dabate. Silky and Obambi won’t get a word in…….

  31. #31
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:13 pm, gayle said:

    “Thank GOD I’m a country boy(bumpkin)!”

  32. #32
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:14 pm, Lars said:

    Edwards: “Blah, blah, blah”

  33. #33
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:15 pm, normsrevenge said:

    edwards ,, says he would push for investment in green infrastructure….

  34. #34
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:15 pm, gayle said:

    Green = money

  35. #35
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:15 pm, gayle said:

    “Kaaaaaralina”

  36. #36
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:16 pm, Lars said:

    Wolf: “Blah, blah, blah!”

  37. #37
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:16 pm, gayle said:

    Wolf is a dull boy.

  38. #38
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:17 pm, sunshinerbray said:

    You know, Edwards could save himself the hassle of getting dressed up (and a whole lotta hairspray) if he’d just have his staff set up a life-size John Edwards doll with a pull string of the phrases he says over and over:

    Two Americas!
    Veterans sleeping under bridges!

    Anyone have any others?

  39. #39
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:17 pm, ajmontana said:

    lol gayle thats paying him a compliment. :roll:

  40. #40
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:18 pm, Lars said:

    Obama: “My turn, my turn! Bad market, bad recession, points finger at everyone, blah, blah, blah!”

  41. #41
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:18 pm, ajmontana said:

    whoa! her caboose is huge!

  42. #42
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:19 pm, trailortrash said:

    lol wolf couldnt shut her up

  43. #43
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:19 pm, gayle said:

    They have all been senators.

    They want to make “Change”?
    What have they been doing???

    “Stimulation” new demoncrap word.

  44. #44
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:20 pm, Lars said:

    How do they hide Shillary’s wringled old face in high definition?

  45. #45
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:20 pm, normsrevenge said:

    They are laying it on heavy that they can plan their way out of doom ..

    really hitting high energy costs

    and green jobs.

    idiots.. we could drill for oil domestically and that would create jobs and help reduce our energy independence while we chase solar dreams of panels everywhere too,, but
    NOOOOO

  46. #46
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:20 pm, gayle said:

    Mills, mills, mills, mills, mills,
    mills, mills, mills,

  47. #47
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:21 pm, ajmontana said:

    bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush,bush, bush, bush, bush,bush, bush, bush, bush,

  48. #48
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:21 pm, Lars said:

    I wonder if they’ll have Edward’s dad ask a question?

  49. #49
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:21 pm, gayle said:

    hills, mills, bills,

    coincidence?

  50. #50
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:22 pm, brooklyn red said:

    mngirl, for Pete’s sake don’t remind her she is a carpetbagger Senator… we have enough trouble in NY… in fact as long as she is campaigning she can’t F anything up here. And where is that Shooomer creep anyway?

  51. #51
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:22 pm, Lars said:

    POW!

  52. #52
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:22 pm, Lars said:

    BAM!

  53. #53
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:23 pm, ajmontana said:

    this is like watching an infomercial for carpetmaster.

  54. #54
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:23 pm, gayle said:

    uh oh

  55. #55
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:23 pm, Lars said:

    WACK!

  56. #56
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:23 pm, UberInfidel67 said:

    She sure looks p*ssed like she’s ready to kick Barack’s butt. lol

  57. #57
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:24 pm, right_on said:

    tax rebates for everybody .. sez Obama

    Brilliant…considering 40% of Americans pay income tax!!! Why not create a “Class” of earners who pay no taxes? These seem to be the ones the Dem’s pander to, and are the supposed “targets” of any and all Dem assistance proposals. How long have they been “promising” to fix education, poverty, social security, etc, etc? there is NO incentive to fix any of it, because they will lose their voting base, and a target (conservatives) to demonize.

  58. #58
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:25 pm, Lars said:

    In his FBI files!

  59. #59
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:26 pm, ajmontana said:

    shut it wolf!

  60. #60
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:26 pm, normsrevenge said:

    Hillary getting on Obama.. over praise for republicans in the past, his stance on Iraq war, how records of public officials matter..

    How about the FBI files, Hil?

  61. #61
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:27 pm, normsrevenge said:

    Obama gets a cheer from the crowd.. as he defends himself for reagan statement,

  62. #62
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:28 pm, ajmontana said:

    give em guns and 20 paces! its outa control.ROFLMAO

  63. #63
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:28 pm, UberInfidel67 said:

    The heck with civilized elections…I say we let them all physically fight it out. Last one standing is the winner. Of course, Hillary has to be menopausal by now so that gives her a definite advantage.

  64. #64
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:29 pm, Lars said:

    Does she not understand how to shut up! SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UUUUP!

  65. #65
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:29 pm, ajmontana said:

    This is like a fight in the 6th grade!

  66. #66
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:29 pm, gayle said:

    I wanna see Hill fight like the man she is…..

    She is ONE mad broad.

  67. #67
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:29 pm, normsrevenge said:

    I say put the three in a cage and let em go at it.. somebody wake Bill up and get him in there too.

    Obama gets his “I don’t know who I’m running against, you or your husband”

    she slips rezko slam in.. OOoo….

  68. #68
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:29 pm, IrishEi said:

    Woo hoo! Going at it. Who wants to wager Hillary loses her cool it first?

  69. #69
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:30 pm, fourstringfuror said:

    Obama doesn’t know who he’s crossing. He better watch his step this year. You can bet the Clintons are.

  70. #70
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:30 pm, gayle said:

    Oh John……..shut up.

  71. #71
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:30 pm, sunshinerbray said:

    LOVE, LOVE, LOVE IT!

    Who needs Jerry Springer or UFC?

  72. #72
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:30 pm, gayle said:

    We love watching dems making fools of themselves.

  73. #73
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:30 pm, IrishEi said:

    OMG Edwards makes me wanna puke.

    “How many children is this gonna help?”

  74. #74
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:30 pm, ajmontana said:

    me me me… hows my hair?

  75. #75
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:31 pm, gayle said:

    Must have used Head and Shoulders.

  76. #76
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:31 pm, Lars said:

    Steal from the corps.!

  77. #77
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:31 pm, mngirl said:

    Yes! Gayle:

    I wanna see Hill fight like the man she is…..

    She is ONE mad broad.

    Did you see her face when he said she was sitting on the board of Wal-mart? Yes, lets see her lose it!!

  78. #78
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:31 pm, gayle said:

    We wanna watch Hill and Obama, not Johnny boy.

  79. #79
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:32 pm, gayle said:

    He is manic tonight

  80. #80
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:33 pm, sunshinerbray said:

    How out of control are you when Silky seems like the voice of reason?

  81. #81
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:33 pm, Lars said:

    Edwars does Wolf’s job.

  82. #82
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:33 pm, Peejz said:

    I must say, this is a great debate..if you like rollerderby type fighting!

    Edwards: I want to open up enemployment benefits to more people? Isn’t that welfare?

  83. #83
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:34 pm, gayle said:

    I am from NC and I do not have his country accent.

    He thinks it’s charmin’.

  84. #84
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:34 pm, normsrevenge said:

    Edwards, get the heck out of the way.

    we want to see Hil and Obama get it on.

  85. #85
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:35 pm, gayle said:

    predators……like Bill?

  86. #86
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:36 pm, ajmontana said:

    I’d like to know how they heck they got her big rump up on that stage, the stage hands are probably hospitalized.

  87. #87
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:36 pm, Lars said:

    Shillary’s makeup is wasting away. Damn that high definition!

  88. #88
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:36 pm, blacktygrrrr said:

    So the subprime sitiuation is racist!

    Yay, demagoguic party!

    Insert lips up Dr. King’s anus…stay planted.

    eric aka http://www.blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com

  89. #89
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:37 pm, gayle said:

    Can we discuss ILLEGALS?????

  90. #90
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:37 pm, ajmontana said:

    lol gayle good one…

  91. #91
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:37 pm, normsrevenge said:

    Hillary knows about schemes…

  92. #92
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:38 pm, gayle said:

    open more banks?

    What????????????

  93. #93
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:38 pm, Lars said:

    They forgot to powder the inside of Obama’s ears.

  94. #94
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:39 pm, UberInfidel67 said:

    You know she wants to say the “F” word sooooo badly!! LMAO

  95. #95
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:39 pm, sunshinerbray said:

    ARGH! People aren’t borrowing too much on credit cards because the banks are out to get them, it’s because the 42″ LCD TV isn’t big enough anymore, or the Louis Vuitton bag in the closet is “so last season.”

  96. #96
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:40 pm, gayle said:

    is he calling hillary a liar?

  97. #97
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:40 pm, Lars said:

    Her butt cheeks are tightening!

  98. #98
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:41 pm, sunshinerbray said:

    Gayle, if it looks like a duck…

    :o)

  99. #99
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:42 pm, gayle said:

    hahaha……busted Hillary

  100. #100
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:42 pm, ajmontana said:

    michelle said,
    Did CNN’s bright bulbs bother to mention this? Why, no. No, they didn’t.

    Ha! wolf is lucky he found the auditorium let alone have any knowledge.

  101. #101
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:42 pm, gayle said:

    Tag team! LMAO!

  102. #102
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:43 pm, ajmontana said:

    shes losing it!

  103. #103
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:43 pm, gayle said:

    Speaking of taking responsibility………………………………………………..what about it HILL?

  104. #104
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:44 pm, mngirl said:

    Hillary gets Booed!!

    The personal attacks are really coming out now.

  105. #105
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:44 pm, ajmontana said:

    voice is cracking , shes crumbling… she might cry.

  106. #106
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:44 pm, gayle said:

    “I did not have sexual relations with that woman!”

  107. #107
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:46 pm, fourstringfuror said:

    Yes, Gayle, but Hillary did.

    Sorry - had to say it. Lol

  108. #108
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:46 pm, Lars said:

    He needsto stop talking about specific jabs by Shillary. This is her method. Jab, jab, jab, duck, cover, jab, confuse the facts so that all Obama can do is answer her jabs.

  109. #109
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:46 pm, navywife91 said:

    Silky

    “can’t we all just get along?”

  110. #110
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:46 pm, gayle said:

    LOL! you’re bad!

  111. #111
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:47 pm, ajmontana said:

    I guess what happened in Vegas stayed in Vegas, no love fest here tonight.

  112. #112
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:47 pm, gayle said:

    Wonder what Bill’s doing?

  113. #113
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:47 pm, gayle said:

    Why is Edwards picking on Obama????

  114. #114
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:48 pm, navywife91 said:

    wow, it’s amazing Obama can remember his 4,000 votes

  115. #115
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:49 pm, ajmontana said:

    he wants in on the fight.

  116. #116
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:49 pm, IrishEi said:

    Gayle:

    Because he’s afraid of the Hildebeast!

  117. #117
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:49 pm, navywife91 said:

    gayle,
    Bill’s sleeping, of course. :)

  118. #118
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:49 pm, fourstringfuror said:

    Waking up.

  119. #119
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:49 pm, navywife91 said:

    That would be funny if he ran up on the stage

  120. #120
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:50 pm, navywife91 said:

    thanks, Hill, but no thanks!

    Why do people want everything for “free”?

  121. #121
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:50 pm, ajmontana said:

    someone just yell out “Immigration!”

  122. #122
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:50 pm, beenthere said:

    I suppose we should enjoy this while we can. The day is coming soon when one of two possible scenarios is going to play out:

    “Bill, Obama here. How ya doin’? Say, how about we start planning for the future. I hear you are interested in a being Supreme Court Justice. It could happen. And your wife for Secretary of State? Yes, I think you could count on it . . .

    “Barack, Hillary here. Say, it looks like things about over for this stage. I was thinking, how does the vice-presidency sound for you? It would give you almost everything you want and you would be a shoo-in for the presidential nomination in 4 years. How about let’s move on, sound good? I bet it does . . .”

    Remember, Democrats are always at each other’s throats until Election Day. It is one of their Party’s great strengths..

  123. #123
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:51 pm, ajmontana said:

    it’s Pandermonium!

  124. #124
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:51 pm, navywife91 said:

    IMMIGRATION!!!!!!!

    oops, they can’t hear me.

  125. #125
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:51 pm, navywife91 said:

    LOL, aj!

  126. #126
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:51 pm, IrishEi said:

    Another $200 billion (Univ. Healthcare). Every time Hillary opens her mouth it costs us a bundle.

  127. #127
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:52 pm, mngirl said:

    Why is Edwards picking on Obama????

    He’s either been promised VEEP, or he’s getting a significant monetary kickback from the Clinton campaign. Obama looks like the “lone man” up there in front of a Black Caucus sponsered event……(and he can’t play the female card “the boys are ganging up on me” at the end of the night)……but I think he’ll come out of this just fine. Looks like too much of a “piling on”.

  128. #128
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:52 pm, navywife91 said:

    we all think everyone deserves healthcare, but some of us don’t want to pay for someone else’s responsibilities!!!!!

  129. #129
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:52 pm, ajmontana said:

    and they give Obama the “I” question, lets here em all no folks.

  130. #130
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:52 pm, fourstringfuror said:

    What’s the difference between working for CNN and the Clinton campaign? Seriously - is there a difference?

  131. #131
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:53 pm, josetheguerilla said:

    I guess what happened in Vegas stayed in Vegas, no love fest here tonight.

    Yes, the gloves are off tonight!!!!!

  132. #132
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:53 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Wonder what Bill’s doing?

    These straight lines are great, but I will resist the obvious correction. Probably enjoying a cigar…

  133. #133
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:54 pm, navywife91 said:

    what about putting responsibility being placed on individuals?

  134. #134
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:54 pm, navywife91 said:

    what about putting responsibility being placed on individuals

    oops

  135. #135
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:55 pm, Lars said:

    He’s sued the life out of private docs.

  136. #136
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:55 pm, navywife91 said:

    alohaguy, i’m sure you’ll make this more interesting.

  137. #137
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:55 pm, Lars said:

    He did take from the stockholders

  138. #138
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:57 pm, navywife91 said:

    here goes….it’s Bush’s fault again.

  139. #139
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:59 pm, gayle said:

    They ask them the same dang questions over and over and over.

    PLEASE ask about illegals!

  140. #140
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:59 pm, Lars said:

    We can’t give citizens CHOICE! Unless you want to kill babies.

  141. #141
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:00 pm, ajmontana said:

    what about National Security? geez, were going to need if these assclowns get elected.

  142. #142
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:00 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    Could Obama back hand Hillary and Edward’s and get away with it? :) Obama put it out there it’s forced health care

  143. #143
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:00 pm, gayle said:

    The dems get the same old stuff at every debate.

    Ask something new.

  144. #144
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:01 pm, ajmontana said:

    Hillary has ducked the Illegal question. sheesh.

  145. #145
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:01 pm, Lars said:

    My ears are bleeding!

  146. #146
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:01 pm, gayle said:

    Actually Obama is doing better than the others put together.

  147. #147
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:01 pm, ajmontana said:

    gayle said:
    The dems get the same old stuff at every debate.

    Ask something new.

    no kidding, its a joke.

  148. #148
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:02 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    LOL, Obama is hammering both of them.

  149. #149
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:02 pm, gayle said:

    Geez……Iraq AGAIN.

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  150. #150
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:03 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    Will they say Iraq is a failure now?

  151. #151
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:04 pm, navywife91 said:

    whatever!!!!!!!! you can’t stand the military you @#$%^&*(!

  152. #152
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:04 pm, gayle said:

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    We have heard this crap for weeks.

    Robots.

  153. #153
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:04 pm, navywife91 said:

    she just doesn’t want to win does she?

  154. #154
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:04 pm, ajmontana said:

    zing! Immigration question zippo…gayles right. same old tiresome crap. pathetic bunch of crapweasels and CNN is a joke.

  155. #155
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:04 pm, gayle said:

    oops, sorry ’bout that.

  156. #156
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:04 pm, blacktygrrrr said:

    Hillary could not say that she wants to win the war!

    That is the first republican campaign commercial against her.

    eric aka the Tygrrrr Express

  157. #157
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:04 pm, navywife91 said:

    i’m sure they’re quakin’ in their boots over there!

  158. #158
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:05 pm, Marshall Russ said:

    Time Warp! Hillary is spewing the Iraq nonsense.

  159. #159
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:05 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    Hillary blah blah blah blah blah she’s so full of sh@t. Hillary you said it was a failure? what you say now?

    In so many words blather blather blather

  160. #160
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:05 pm, IrishEi said:

    There you have it.

    Sut she was given the perfect opportunity to say that she wanted us to WIN in Iraq.

    SHE CANNOT SAY IT because she does not want it. She just wants it to end.

  161. #161
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:05 pm, navywife91 said:

    blacktygrr
    I sure hope they pull that sound bite

  162. #162
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:05 pm, ajmontana said:

    replay tape in 3,2,1, roll tape….

  163. #163
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:06 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    all softball’s blabber blabber zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  164. #164
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:07 pm, navywife91 said:

    end the war, but no Victory?

    Edwards you’re a foolish idiot!

  165. #165
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:07 pm, gayle said:

    Obama is much more presidential “sounding” than the others.

    Would you agree?

  166. #166
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:08 pm, navywife91 said:

    he’s stammering a lot

  167. #167
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:08 pm, gayle said:

    let’s use that money to build the fence.

  168. #168
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:08 pm, Lars said:

    Why is Shillary wearing a Chinese soldier’s uniform?

  169. #169
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:08 pm, IrishEi said:

    Same BS from Obama. Nothing about WINNING—just high-tailing it out.

    These people make me sick.

  170. #170
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:08 pm, navywife91 said:

    Win the war, Obama or give everyone in SC internet access?

    hmmmmm

  171. #171
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:08 pm, ajmontana said:

    “understand whats at stake here”….oh we do, once and for all even the dem voters need to realize none of their candidates are worth a crap.

  172. #172
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:08 pm, Marshall Russ said:

    They are still waving the white flag and will snatch a defeat right out of the jaws of victory.

  173. #173
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:09 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    a bridge in every pot. or was that pot on every bridge.

  174. #174
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:09 pm, navywife91 said:

    lars

    She wanted to look Hsu-per!

  175. #175
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:09 pm, normsrevenge said:

    what blippin’ planet is Obama from?

  176. #176
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:09 pm, gayle said:

    He sounds presidential compared to the others. That is what I meant.

  177. #177
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:09 pm, Lars said:

    Is Bush running again?

  178. #178
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:10 pm, navywife91 said:

    you mean like the permanent troops in Bosnia that your husband promised to have home by Christmas more than 10 years ago?????????

  179. #179
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:10 pm, Lars said:

    Hsu-per! That’s a good one!

  180. #180
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:10 pm, gayle said:

    Yeah, and YOUR husband was the POTUS and he shacked up on the oval office.

  181. #181
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:10 pm, ajmontana said:

    bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush,bush, bush, bush, bush,bush, bush, bush, bush,bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush, bush,bush, bush, bush, bush,bush, bush, bush, bush,

  182. #182
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:10 pm, navywife91 said:

    she’s getting shrill

    was that a screed? :)

  183. #183
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:11 pm, gayle said:

    in

  184. #184
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:11 pm, navywife91 said:

    careful, aj. You might get carple tunnel.

  185. #185
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:12 pm, ajmontana said:

    I’m done, same old stuff diff day..night all. barf. :mrgreen:

  186. #186
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:12 pm, Lars said:

    Why don’t they ask her about Bosnia and the troops. Afterall, she ordered them there, didn’t she?

  187. #187
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:12 pm, gayle said:

    We can multitask here.

    Type/think/listen.

    We’re brilliant! LOL!

  188. #188
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:12 pm, navywife91 said:

    carpal tunnel

  189. #189
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:13 pm, navywife91 said:

    some of us are having spelling issues though. :(