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Scarlett Johansson visits the troops

By Michelle Malkin  •  January 21, 2008 03:38 PM

She’s an abortion zealot, Bush-basher, and Obama supporter, but give Scarlett Johansson credit for taking the time to visit the troops in Kuwait. She met with some 600 service members at Camp Buehring, Kuwait Jan. 20 during a five-day USO tour to the Gulf region.

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  1. #1
    On January 21st, 2008 at 3:45 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

    Good actress with a great heart.

  2. #2
    On January 21st, 2008 at 3:46 pm, Jeddite said:

    Good for her. Now if only more celebrities would realize that while they may disagree with President Bush and the reasons for Iraq, they dont have to give a cold shoulder to the fighting men and women serving over there.

  3. #3
    On January 21st, 2008 at 3:46 pm, blues said:

    Nothing brightens a soldier’s day like real support from a pretty girl.Whatever her politics.Wish that all the lunatics in Hollyweird could understand the concept that our fighting men and women believe in their mission and deserve respect for their beliefs.

  4. #4
    On January 21st, 2008 at 3:47 pm, ezupirate75 said:

    She has the right to her opinions as that is why we have a military to protect those rights. I applaud her for taking the time to brighten the troops day. As a former Navy Corpsman who served with the Marines in Vietnam, I am sure she heard several UhRah’s

  5. #5
    On January 21st, 2008 at 3:48 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    I strongly disagree with Johansson on abortion and the President (given that I detest Hillary, I’ll give her a pass on the Obama support).

    So I offer her kudos for going to visit our troops, because it’s one of the few ideas she’s right about.

  6. #6
    On January 21st, 2008 at 3:52 pm, ajmontana said:

    kudo’s indeed.
    and I could solve her worry about HIV. I’m clean as a whistle and love her… lol. hmm, wonder if it would be ok with what’s her name?

  7. #7
    On January 21st, 2008 at 3:54 pm, WarTip said:

    But wait! I thought you would only attack those who disagreed with you and support Bush through thick and then because he is a conservative? What? You mean you call Bush to the carpet when he is wrong and support those with whom you disagree when they make concerted efforts to do what is right?

    Now if only the liberal left could get the same message there may be some hope for us after all.

    Well, at least one side has class and a firm belief in what is right and wrong.

    Thank you MM.

  8. #8
    On January 21st, 2008 at 3:57 pm, Varilux said:

    Good for her. The first article linked is laughable there’s more editorial commentary from person “reporting” it than actual quotes but that just goes with the territory these days. I think actors and musicians almost have to recite the anti-Bush creed to get work these days.

    She eve looks a bit like the old-fashioned pin-ups. Hope they enjoy the eye-candy.

  9. #9
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:00 pm, Mookie said:

    I thought that people who don’t support the war don’t support the troops?

  10. #10
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:06 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

    #9 Disagreement with war and supporting our military are mutually exclusive. Unfortunately, some people use rather crude means to express their displeasure with Bush and the war and in the process spite our military personnel. These unthinking acts are indeed harmful.

  11. #11
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:09 pm, WORK949 said:

    Ummmm…who’s Scarlett Johansson?

    Sorry - I know who Diana West is, Michelle Malkin, Bat Ye’or, Laura Ingraham, Tammy Bruce, Debra Saunders, Mona Charen, Kitty Pilgrim, Julia Gorin, and Ann Coulter; I’ve even read some of their books - but I’ve never heard of this Johansson lady until today.

    Mmmmm…Has she done something really great in life like the other women whose names I do know? I must be following the careers of the wrong ladies or something………Don’t I feel stupid and out of the loop. Gosh….

    Nice that she paid our troops a visit, though. Maybe they know who she is.

  12. #12
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:10 pm, Mookie said:

    Disagreement with war and supporting our military are mutually exclusive.

    I couldn’t agree more. Unfortunately, a large number of conservatives do not.

  13. #13
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:10 pm, navywife91 said:

    Please spare me Mookie. She’s there for the guys to go gaga over, not to say she supports “what” they’re doing. I’m personally tired of the “I support the troops, but not the war” mantra.

    I know the guys over there enjoy it, so good for her and them.

  14. #14
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:10 pm, Lucius Vorenus said:

    I think actors and musicians almost have to recite the anti-Bush creed to get work these days.

    Almost?

    ALMOST?!?

  15. #15
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:11 pm, ammo john said:

    I remember seeing Toby Keith on O’Reilly recently, and he looked p*ssed because no one wants to do anything with the USO overseas. I applaud anyone who can MAKE time to do a worthy cause with the USO.

  16. #16
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:11 pm, orlandocajun said:

    Not that I didn’t need another reason to love her (she’s so hot), it’s heart warming to see such a genuine act of appreciation for our troops. It doesn’t matter what she thinks of the war or Bush. I wish that the Democrats, and the lunatic left, would follow her example. She’s so mature for a young 20 something.

  17. #17
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:11 pm, navywife91 said:

    work949
    She did date Justin Timberlake. :)

  18. #18
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:13 pm, navywife91 said:

    She’s so mature for a young 20 something

    You didn’t read the link. Mature isn’t a word I’d use. She is very attractive and a decent actress though.

  19. #19
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:14 pm, John Ansell said:

    Good for her in supporting our troops.

  20. #20
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:16 pm, WarTip said:

    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:00 pm, Mookie said:

    I thought

    Uh yeah! That pretty well sums it up.

  21. #21
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:18 pm, Mookie said:

    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:10 pm, navywife91 said:

    Please spare me Mookie. She’s there for the guys to go gaga over, not to say she supports “what” they’re doing. I’m personally tired of the “I support the troops, but not the war” mantra.

    I know the guys over there enjoy it, so good for her and them.

    That was my point. I think more people need to understand that you can support the troops while disagreeing with the war and Scarlett’s visit is a great example of that. Hopefully more celebrities will follow her example.

  22. #22
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:24 pm, orlandocajun said:

    navywife91, she is around 22! I didn’t say that she was middle aged. I don’t need to read the link. Regardless of her motivations, it’s the troops that benefited and that’s all that matters to me.

  23. #23
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:28 pm, Bonsai Billy said:

    Kudos to Michelle (from a liberal) for the post.

  24. #24
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:28 pm, navywife91 said:

    First, I think it’s great she’s visiting our troops, Mookie. You know it and I know it, but I don’t think it supports your point at all. Maybe some of the people who say that are very sincere. However, I believe most people who profess that they support the troops don’t really. My husband was doing 6 month (or longer) deployments before the war and will continue to do so after. I didn’t hear from any of these “supporters” because it didn’t suit their cause which is to stick it to President Bush. You may be one of those rare people who truly support the troops, but not the war. The support for my husband’s mission is more essential: achieving victory.

  25. #25
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:29 pm, DirkBelig said:

    Maybe someone told her that unless we win against the Islamofascists, that wonderful bosom would be forever shrouded in a burqua and that woke her up. Why we fight, indeed.

  26. #26
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:30 pm, WarTip said:

    Ok! I have to make a clarification here. Mookie, that actually makes sense. If they make a concerted effort to actually support the troops, it matters not whether they support the war or not. Cutting off funding to pay for armor, ammo or any other necessity does not show support for the troops. Refusing them access to facilities at an airport does not promote support for the troops. Refusing them access to public streets does not support them. Actively impeding supply lines here stateside does not support them. If you recognize that many of these “protesters” who actively impede their progress and increase the amount of danger they face do not support them in ANY way, I will concede that you do have a valid point … and either way I agree, more celebrities (and others) should follow her example.

  27. #27
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:31 pm, navywife91 said:

    orlandocajun

    I didn’t say you said she was middle aged. You said she was mature. I disagree based on the things she says. I think if you’d read the link, you might have understood where I came from. The benefit to the troops is wonderful and something I noted.

  28. #28
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:46 pm, JodyT said:

    Mookie, Rusty, lgm…all come to MM’s site to split hairs and support their stereotype of conservatives that don’t think for themselves but only parrot whatever Rush, Hannity, O’reilly are broadcasting.

    It’s difficult when MM’s posts and/or her audience demonstrate their commitment to intellectual honesty, balance, and independence.

  29. #29
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:48 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Maybe they know who she is.

    They do!

    Nice of her, nice for the troops. That’s supporting the troops even if you’re against the war - unlike the lawyer who keyed the Marine’s car.
    Semper Johannson

  30. #30
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:50 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    Scarlet who? I have no clue who this girl is but I’m glad for the troop’s.

  31. #31
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:50 pm, Alphonse said:

    Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn.

  32. #32
    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:51 pm, mattsanchez said:

    I hope more people will make the trip! Good for her.

  33. #33
    On January 21st, 2008 at 5:00 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    JodyT

    Left out a few (snausage on the other thread - sheesh) but, yes, you said it very well.

    THANKS!

    It used to be common for actors to visit the troops. Now, we make a big deal over someone who may or may not be known. In this case I, as well, do not know who she is. Props though!

  34. #34
    On January 21st, 2008 at 5:12 pm, Mookie said:

    On January 21st, 2008 at 4:46 pm, JodyT said:

    Mookie, Rusty, lgm…all come to MM’s site to split hairs and support their stereotype of conservatives that don’t think for themselves but only parrot whatever Rush, Hannity, O’reilly are broadcasting.

    It’s difficult when MM’s posts and/or her audience demonstrate their commitment to intellectual honesty, balance, and independence.

    What a bunch of crap.

    The mantra of the overwhelming amount of conservatives has been that not supporting the war means you don’t support the troops and that they are NOT mutually exclusive. Pretending that it hasn’t been is intellectually dishonest. Any celebrity who has spoken against the war, even in a casual setting, has been branded a traitor. Scarlett has spoke out against the war, saying that it’s one of the reasons she’s supporting Obama, and at the same time, she’s obviously supporting the troops by going on the USO tour. So pointing out that the two can be mutually exclusive is splitting hairs?

  35. #35
    On January 21st, 2008 at 5:18 pm, corona said:

    Some folks need a logic class here - mutually exclusive means if one is true, the other is false.

  36. #36
    On January 21st, 2008 at 5:20 pm, Mookie said:

    Some folks need a logic class here - mutually exclusive means if one is true, the other is false.

    You’re right. I wrote that totally backwards. I meant that being against the war but supporting the troops is mutually exclusive in the eyes of most conservatives.

  37. #37
    On January 21st, 2008 at 5:26 pm, ezupirate75 said:

    quick history, a lot of work to be that young.

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0424060/

  38. #38
    On January 21st, 2008 at 5:30 pm, Mookie said:

    I forgot she was in American Rhapsody. That’s a great movie.

  39. #39
    On January 21st, 2008 at 5:40 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Lost in Translation was pretty good. All you old guys should rent it when your wives are at their mothers’…

    Ooops..I mean,

  40. #40
    On January 21st, 2008 at 5:41 pm, formerwm said:

    She will never be around a better bunch of good looking, real men in Hollywood as she was on her trip to Kuwait. She is young and may realize that some things are worth fighting for and maybe she got a sense of what our troops are there for. God Bless her for going.

  41. #41
    On January 21st, 2008 at 5:44 pm, DBNinKY said:

    “She’s an abortion zealot, Bush-basher, and Obama supporter… .”

    Although most of today’s fresh-faced performers deny to the hilt that a bias against conservatives in show-biz exists in Hollywood, isn’t it strange how most of the more successful of these young actors and actresses seem to always follow the same tired-old liberal beat? (Before Hollywood and Madonna had influenced her, I remember seeing Britney Spears on MTV, say something to the effect of “We all need to support the President in a time of war.”)

    But with that being said, I do think Ms. Johansson did a commendable and courageous act in visiting the troops, something very much in the tradition of Bob Hope and the USO.

  42. #42
    On January 21st, 2008 at 5:50 pm, Azygos said:

    Ummmm…who’s Scarlett Johansson?

    My thoughts exactly.

  43. #43
    On January 21st, 2008 at 5:55 pm, corkie said:

    I think more people need to understand that you can support the troops while disagreeing with the war

    Mookie, I think more conservatives understand this than liberals.

    The issue with the war is not binary (it is not simply ‘agree versus disagree’).

    Here’s a better list;

    1. Agree
    2. Disagree, express disagreement without increasing the risk to our troops.
    3. Disagree, express disagreement in a manner which does increase the risk to our troops, BUT offsets this damage to our troops with other acts of support.
    4. Disagree, express disagreement in a manner which does increase the risk to our troops, and does nothing to offset this damage to our troops.

    First of all, I think conservatives usually don’t have a problem, and themselves fall into, one of the first three categories above. I think most conservatives only have a problem with #4. I don’t know enough about SJ to know whether she’s a #2 or #3, but conservatives can applaud her for not being #4 without being considered hypocrites.

    Second, some conservatives probably don’t believe that #2 can exist – that any disagreement emboldens our enemies and puts our troops at risk. I see their point, but disagree.

    However, I think the number of liberals that believe showing any support for the troops implies support for the war is greater than the number of conservatives which don’t believe that #2 can exist.

  44. #44
    On January 21st, 2008 at 5:57 pm, corkie said:

    BTW, Mookie, you do acknowledge than some, not all, liberals definitely state that they do NOT support our troops, right?

  45. #45
    On January 21st, 2008 at 5:59 pm, Mookie said:

    On January 21st, 2008 at 5:57 pm, corkie said:

    BTW, Mookie, you do acknowledge than some, not all, liberals definitely state that they do NOT support our troops, right?

    Absolutely. Every group has its idiots.

  46. #46
    On January 21st, 2008 at 6:11 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Well either,
    A. she wants to imply that they support the troops.

    B. she sees the writing on the wall.

    C. she is just a camp follower.

    I hope B. but supect A.

  47. #47
    On January 21st, 2008 at 6:14 pm, Boomer said:

    I’m really out of the loop I don’t even know who she is or what she is about. I do respect her going out to thank the troops in the sandbox I know it will be greatly appreciated by them. Thank you Ms Johansson for supporting our troops!

  48. #48
    On January 21st, 2008 at 6:16 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Oh, pooh… hope I didn’t wake up corkiee.

  49. #49
    On January 21st, 2008 at 6:18 pm, zorro said:

    On January 21st, 2008 at 5:50 pm, Azygos said:
    Ummmm…who’s Scarlett Johansson?
    My thoughts exactly.

    Add me to that list as well. I’ve never viewed any of her movies, couldn’t name one.

    I am happy for our fighting men and women, anything to break up the daily grind like a USO show is great and I thank her for taking the time to visit them.

    But typical of the far left, this blurb about her is quite disappointing:

    The star last month boasted about being so “socially aware” she gets tested for HIV twice a year.

    Does “socially aware” mean she sleeps with people she doesn’t intend to marry?

  50. #50
    On January 21st, 2008 at 6:23 pm, brooklyn red said:

    FYI. You are tested for HIV, STDs & a bunch of other stuff each time you donate blood. Do the right thing & roll up your sleeves please.

  51. #51
    On January 21st, 2008 at 6:33 pm, nbarry said:

    I hope she discovers that when it comes to sex appeal, no leading man in Hollywood beats an American military serviceman (unless he served there himself).

  52. #52
    On January 21st, 2008 at 6:37 pm, Common Sense said:

    Girl with a Pearl Earring - loved that movie.

    She seems like a nice girl. Good for her for trying to help out. It’s more than a lot of the rest of them are doing.

    As for her other statements, she’s young and naive and surrounding by people spouting the moonbat mantra.

    A lot of people become more conservative as they grow older and more experienced. Here’s hoping she’ll become wiser as she becomes older.

  53. #53
    On January 21st, 2008 at 6:37 pm, elpresidente said:

    Compared to the behavior of a certain good-looking liberal actress 40 or so years ago (Fonda, anyone?), Ms. Johansson’s actions are a clear and commendable improvement.

  54. #54
    On January 21st, 2008 at 6:39 pm, DocattheAutopsy said:

    Maybe she’ll hear about all the good stuff that the military is doing in Iraq and change her position on the war.

    Once you get out of the sea of muddle-brained Hollywood types and start hearing the conservative viewpoints, it can be infectious.

  55. #55
    On January 21st, 2008 at 6:52 pm, zorro said:

    On January 21st, 2008 at 6:23 pm, brooklyn red said:
    FYI. You are tested for HIV, STDs & a bunch of other stuff each time you donate blood. Do the right thing & roll up your sleeves please.

    What?

  56. #56
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:00 pm, zorro said:

    Brooklyn, I don’t think she was talking about the Red Cross when she made the above statement. Here’s more, but you should read the links…

    Johansson says, “We are supposed to be liberated in America but if our President had his way, we wouldn’t be educated about sex at all. Every woman would have six children, and we wouldn’t be able to have abortions.”

  57. #57
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:04 pm, JohnHolliday said:

    Remember when Bob Hope would tour with the USO and bring loads of pretty girls for the GIs to ogle? That’s what this is. Miss Johansson is there as eye candy.

    In the South Pacific in 1994, Bob Hope was on stage with dancer Patty Thomas. She was rather skimpily clad and Hope said, “I just want you boys to remember what you’re fighting for.”

  58. #58
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:05 pm, JohnHolliday said:

    Sorry!!! …South Pacific in 1944…

    My mistake.

  59. #59
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:30 pm, brooklyn red said:

    zorro, I was commenting on a previous post I thought I saw… about her being tested twice twice a year… #6 saw it too I think… “I could solve her worry about HIV”, but who knows maybe I am on the wrong thread.

    Anyway, I thank her for her service, & I encourage everyone who can to give blood.

  60. #60
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:34 pm, NBF said:

    Uh, I wonder if we’d see all these kudos if she was a child molester.

    Being pro-baby grinding isn’t a big deal anymore I guess. Sick.

  61. #61
    On January 21st, 2008 at 7:48 pm, BOB said:

    She was in Sponge Bob Squarepants The Movie…..My Favorite!!!

  62. #62
    On January 21st, 2008 at 8:18 pm, right_on said:

    I have never been a fan, but maybe, just maybe, this trip will help her change her mind about what the “Holier-than-thou-wood” crowd says about our hero-warriors. I have my fingers crossed for her…let’s see if it effects her acting career? I hope I can learn to like her.

  63. #63
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:25 pm, hadsil said:

    Now this is “true patriotism”.

  64. #64
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:32 pm, rightisright said:

    Mookie, Rusty, lgm and the rest how can you support the troops but not their mission?
    Did you feel, say, yell, march and spit with the same vigor and ignorance for the troops in Vietnam?

  65. #65
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:37 pm, rightisright said:

    and if i may, if the troops approve good for them…they are the one’s protecting and serving this country. She’s doesn’t deserve an award or adulation for having her a$$ protected by the troops.

  66. #66
    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:54 pm, Mookie said:

    On January 21st, 2008 at 9:32 pm, rightisright said:

    Mookie, Rusty, lgm and the rest how can you support the troops but not their mission?
    Did you feel, say, yell, march and spit with the same vigor and ignorance for the troops in Vietnam?

    I never said I didn’t support their mission.

  67. #67
    On January 21st, 2008 at 10:08 pm, zorro said:

    I hear ya brooklyn. Sorry for the confusion.

  68. #68
    On January 22nd, 2008 at 5:10 am, graysonret said:

    I disagree with her, but she’s a liberal with some class. Few of those around, these days. She would be one of the few Hollywood types I wouldn’t mind shaking hands.

  69. #69
    On January 22nd, 2008 at 7:04 am, Fineous Reese said:

    brooklyn red, I’m all for giving blood, have filled my share of donor cards and will continue to do so, but please be gentle with phrasing. don’t let folks get the idea that donating blood is a viable way to test for HIV etc. the tests aren’t 100% accurate and it sucks to get HIV from donated blood. Better to layer the tests by getting tested before donating if there’s any reason you might have it (assuming said reason wouldn’t get you screened out from donating in the first place).

    that being said, kudos for her for taking the time to lift the spirits of our fighting forces. may her time there help boost her own conscience and affect her worldview making her that much more attractive.

  70. #70
    On January 22nd, 2008 at 7:30 am, 3Angela said:

    Under the MSM radar, a long parade of Spanish-speaking celebrities has been visiting our troops all along, many, many more than their English-speaking counterparts. These are people who are big stars on Spanish-language TV, usually very attractive women. Spanish-language publications cover these visits, but silence elsewhere. They ought to be getting some mainstream credit.

  71. #71
    On January 22nd, 2008 at 8:56 am, sfcmac said:

    Aw, ain’t that sweet. How come they never sent Brad Pitt to see me when I was there?

  72. #72
    On January 22nd, 2008 at 9:46 am, MrVIBEMAN said:

    I think she’s a Hypocrit.

    I think she’s in it for a photo op…since Britney is hogging all the spotlight lately.

    I think that if she truly supported the troops, she wouldn’t backstab them by speaking out against the mission they’re risking their lives to complete…

    I guess I’m one of those conservatives that don’t believe that supporting the troops and supporting the war are mutually exclusive…

    If you’re a soldier, everytime you hear someone you respect say something against your mission, it makes you question whether you’re doing the right thing or not, and hesitancy in war can end in your death. It introduces an irritant and distraction that troops on the front lines can ill afford.
    And as much as it pains me to say it, many of our troops respect some of the Hollywood types (maybe because of the Characters they play or just because they’re rich and famous, who knows?)

    If nothing else, it’s depressing when you find out that someone you respect or like is on opposite sides of the fence from you. Depression is something else our troops don’t need more of…

    The only good that came out of this is that there are 600 troops smiling now. I think she inadvertantly helped them.

    She gets no Kudos for that…

  73. #73
    On January 22nd, 2008 at 1:22 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    These are people who are big stars on Spanish-language TV, usually very attractive women. Spanish-language publications cover these visits, but silence elsewhere. They ought to be getting some mainstream credit.

    Photos please…. ;)

  74. #74
    On January 22nd, 2008 at 3:38 pm, Tommygun said:

    After actually reading the “Bush-bashing” article linked to on at the top of the page (always a good thing to do, boys and girls), her “Bush-bashing” there is entirely focused on the abortion issue. All I could find in a web search of her and “Iraq” was about her visit. Please post a link to her “anti-war” statements.

    Am I missing something?

  75. #75
    On January 22nd, 2008 at 6:37 pm, navywife91 said:

    #74

    This is old now, but I did make an attempt to find anti-war statements and found none. However, unless someone above posted that she specifically was anti-war, I don’t know why you brought this up. Some people were talking about the fact there are some celebrities who say they support the troops, but not the war. I don’t know who you think linked that to Johannson on this thread because I didn’t read every single post. Michelle posted no links above because she didn’t say Scarlett was anti-war.

  76. #76
    On January 23rd, 2008 at 1:40 am, Tommygun said:

    Mookie at #34 said she “has spoke out against the war, saying that it’s one of the reasons she’s supporting Obama…” Unless she has indeed done so, her alleged liberalism is irrelevent to the story. One can be pro-abortion and still be loyal to the country and supportive of the war effort. Without such comments by her, there is no substantive inconsistency or noteworthy surprise in this story.

  77. #77
    On January 23rd, 2008 at 6:28 am, navywife91 said:

    Mookie at #34 said she “has spoke out against the war, saying that it’s one of the reasons she’s supporting Obama…”

    It’s helpful, then, to address the person who said that she made antiwar statements instead of making an inference that we all argued that point. Mookie is capable of finding the quote, I’m sure. However, one can easily assume if she’s supporting Obama(who doesn’t support the war and who wouldn’t have voted for the war had he been a Senator at the time)that Johannson herself doesn’t support the war.

  78. #78
    On January 23rd, 2008 at 2:54 pm, Tommygun said:

    Navywife91:

    1. The idea of her being “anti-war” was implied in a number of comments, and in the whole story itself. Would Ron Silver, a noted opponent of the President on domestic matters but active supporter of the Iraq War visiting “the troops” be such a big deal?

    2. It is not proper to assume any such thing about her views on the war.

    3. Mookie said she “has spoke out” (sic), not that she “doesn’t support the war.” And there most certainly is a difference–one is a silent failing, the other is borderline(?) treason.

    4. There is a difference between “voting no” on the war in the beginning, but supporting the operation once launched. I am currently on deployment in Kosovo in the Balkans. This operation was launched under Clinton. Many Republicans and conservatives disagreed with intervening here, but (unlike the opposition to the recently-started conflicts), they “supported” the operation out of loyalty to their country.

    Now, Mookie: Where and when did she “[speak] out against the war, saying that it’s one of the reasons she’s supporting Obama”? There are two components to your own words. Your answer must point to her 1: announcing in a public way she opposes the Iraq War (and “spoke out” suggests it was done in a rather “activist” way), and 2: explaining that this opposition of hers contributed directly to her decision to support B. Hussein Obama.

  79. #79
    On January 23rd, 2008 at 3:49 pm, navywife91 said:

    The idea of her being “anti-war” was implied in a number of comments, and in the whole story itself. Would Ron Silver, a noted opponent of the President on domestic matters but active supporter of the Iraq War visiting “the troops” be such a big deal?

    Tommygun
    First, thank you for your service.

    Second, I’m not quite sure why you seem to be starting an argument with me. I have not painstakingly reread each and every post above, but the ones I did happen to read as I was posting didn’t imply Scarlett Johannson was anti-war, just that some celebrities who claim to be for the troops don’t go visit our troops overseas and put their money where their mouth is like SJ has. As a matter of fact almost everyone has praised her for going. Most, if not all the posts mentioning this were speaking of celebrities in general. I think Ron Silver would be recognized for going because he does support the WOT and would be visiting the men (my husband included) and women who are fighting.

    2. It is not proper to assume any such thing about her views on the war.

    I can and will make educated assumptions on people based on their actions. In this case Johannson is supporting the only Dem candidate (of the 3 remaining) who says he would never have voted for the War and does not support it and dooms it to fail. You’re right though because maybe she doesn’t know all of Obama’s positions on important issues, in which case, I think that’s even worse.

    . There is a difference between “voting no” on the war in the beginning, but supporting the operation once launched.

    I’m very well aware of that, but I’ve actually listened to Obama and he has no support for this war and wants to get our troops home. He didn’t vote for it, nor does he support it. I did not make that statement in reference to Ms. Johannson, I was simply stating the position of her Presidential Candidate of choice.

    Lastly, I’d like to wish you well and hope you return safely home soon.

  80. #80
    On January 23rd, 2008 at 4:01 pm, Tommygun said:

    One clarification: Regarding my comment about “voting no” verses not supporting it once it started, my point was to offer an alternative view for the young lady: perhaps whatever opposition she may have voiced before (which, frankly, I doubt exists–but I’m waiting) regarded whether to have engaged in the war in the first place. It was certainly NOT to suggest B. Hussein Obama was in that category. B. Hussein Obama’s stance is well known.

  81. #81
    On January 23rd, 2008 at 8:06 pm, huggybear said:

    This is sort of silly, but here’s my 2 cents on the support the troops debate here: One can support the troops by respecting them for their sacrifice and hard work, and at the same time disagree with the war they are fighting.

    When travelling over the holidays, I spoke to a Marine on leave who disagrees with the war, but fought in it anyway. Is he treasonous?

    Would you consider yourself treasonous if the president decided not to go to war, but you felt we should have?

    The president made the decision to go to war [which I respectfully disagree with], while the troops are simply doing their job [which I respecfully respect!]. It’s really that simple.

  82. #82
    On January 23rd, 2008 at 8:49 pm, navywife91 said:

    The president made the decision to go to war [which I respectfully disagree with], while the troops are simply doing their job [which I respecfully respect!]

    I don’t think that the majority of commenters here have issues with people like you who “respectfully” disagree with the President’s decision. It’s the people like Soros, Kucinich, and anti-war nuts who resort to “Bush lied, a million Iraqis died” among other lies and name-calling.

    1 : the betrayal of a trust : treachery 2 : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign’s family

    When travelling over the holidays, I spoke to a Marine on leave who disagrees with the war, but fought in it anyway. Is he treasonous?

    That is a silly question. How could he be? He followed the orders he was given. He didn’t run away to Canada did he?

    Would you consider yourself treasonous if the president decided not to go to war, but you felt we should have?

    Committing treason is not about “feelings” it’s about actions. Simply disagreeing with him doesn’t make the point. Now, giving aid and comfort to the enemy, well, that’s another thing.

    I know you’re trying to be thoughtful here, but your analogies are weak.

  83. #83
    On January 24th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, Tommygun said:

    Navywife91, one thing to remember: “Feelings” are all that matter to liberals. They manipulate feelings to provoke an agenda that thinking and loyal people will reject. Sometimes, they start to believe their own propaganda, and get the idea that “feelings” actually make something change or happen. Thinking treasonous thoughts (not that either case he gives is treason) does not of and in itself aid the enemy, in that sense, no matter how much someone might wish it did.

  84. #84
    On January 25th, 2008 at 7:23 am, navywife91 said:

    Thinking treasonous thoughts (not that either case he gives is treason) does not of and in itself aid the enemy, in that sense, no matter how much someone might wish it did.

    I’m not quite sure if this was directed at me or not? I agree with your statement(I think my post #82 is pretty clear), so I’m baffled as to why you even put that in your post to me. If you thought I was equating thoughts with treason, you need to read the post again. I was rebutting huggybear’s very weak analogies.

    I am very much aware that liberals are driven by their feelings instead of being rational and using the mind. That’s one of the many reasons I’m not one.

    This has gotten way off topic, so this will be my last post. I hope to see you on another thread soon.

  85. #85
    On January 25th, 2008 at 2:54 pm, Tommygun said:

    And this will be my last post here, unless Mookie or someone comes through with the evidence I requested.

    The entire purpose of that particular statement was to show how the liberal why his examples were entirely off-target: Treason requires “giving aid and comfort” to the enemy, and thoughts or ideas alone do not do that. Hence, the libs can root in their minds all they want for our enemies, and yet it not be treason.

    I included it in my statement to you because more people than you read these posts.

  86. #86
    On February 15th, 2008 at 4:25 pm, emjem24 said:

    I’m sorry, she may be offering up her
    “pretty little face” to cheer up our military men and women (well, okay the men) but I really don’t like her, her politics, or her vacuous opinions. Alyssa Milano also did something similar. Who’s to say this isn’t a PR stunt?

    This chick might be a good actress, support the troops but not the war sort of thing, but supporting a lame brain like Obama is more indicative of the vacuous nature that is celebrity. I don’t find this inspring… only if someone actually means it.

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