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This chick might be a good actress, support the troops but not the war sort of thing, but supporting a lame brain like Obama is more indicative of the vacuous nature that is celebrity. I don’t find this inspring… only if someone actually means it.

The entire purpose of that particular statement was to show how the liberal why his examples were entirely off-target: Treason requires “giving aid and comfort” to the enemy, and thoughts or ideas alone do not do that. Hence, the libs can root in their minds all they want for our enemies, and yet it not be treason.

I included it in my statement to you because more people than you read these posts.

Thinking treasonous thoughts (not that either case he gives is treason) does not of and in itself aid the enemy, in that sense, no matter how much someone might wish it did.

I’m not quite sure if this was directed at me or not? I agree with your statement(I think my post #82 is pretty clear), so I’m baffled as to why you even put that in your post to me. If you thought I was equating thoughts with treason, you need to read the post again. I was rebutting huggybear’s very weak analogies.

I am very much aware that liberals are driven by their feelings instead of being rational and using the mind. That’s one of the many reasons I’m not one.

This has gotten way off topic, so this will be my last post. I hope to see you on another thread soon.

Scarlett Johansson brought out the big guns this weekend for the Marines stationed at Kuwait’s Camp Buehring. While other celebrities are grabbing headlines because of their narcissistic antics, or spending all their time criticizing the country and ….

The president made the decision to go to war [which I respectfully disagree with], while the troops are simply doing their job [which I respecfully respect!]

I don’t think that the majority of commenters here have issues with people like you who “respectfully” disagree with the President’s decision. It’s the people like Soros, Kucinich, and anti-war nuts who resort to “Bush lied, a million Iraqis died” among other lies and name-calling.

1 : the betrayal of a trust : treachery 2 : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign’s family

When travelling over the holidays, I spoke to a Marine on leave who disagrees with the war, but fought in it anyway. Is he treasonous?

That is a silly question. How could he be? He followed the orders he was given. He didn’t run away to Canada did he?

Would you consider yourself treasonous if the president decided not to go to war, but you felt we should have?

Committing treason is not about “feelings” it’s about actions. Simply disagreeing with him doesn’t make the point. Now, giving aid and comfort to the enemy, well, that’s another thing.

I know you’re trying to be thoughtful here, but your analogies are weak.

When travelling over the holidays, I spoke to a Marine on leave who disagrees with the war, but fought in it anyway. Is he treasonous?

Would you consider yourself treasonous if the president decided not to go to war, but you felt we should have?

The president made the decision to go to war [which I respectfully disagree with], while the troops are simply doing their job [which I respecfully respect!]. It’s really that simple.

The idea of her being “anti-war” was implied in a number of comments, and in the whole story itself. Would Ron Silver, a noted opponent of the President on domestic matters but active supporter of the Iraq War visiting “the troops” be such a big deal?

Tommygun
First, thank you for your service.

Second, I’m not quite sure why you seem to be starting an argument with me. I have not painstakingly reread each and every post above, but the ones I did happen to read as I was posting didn’t imply Scarlett Johannson was anti-war, just that some celebrities who claim to be for the troops don’t go visit our troops overseas and put their money where their mouth is like SJ has. As a matter of fact almost everyone has praised her for going. Most, if not all the posts mentioning this were speaking of celebrities in general. I think Ron Silver would be recognized for going because he does support the WOT and would be visiting the men (my husband included) and women who are fighting.

2. It is not proper to assume any such thing about her views on the war.

I can and will make educated assumptions on people based on their actions. In this case Johannson is supporting the only Dem candidate (of the 3 remaining) who says he would never have voted for the War and does not support it and dooms it to fail. You’re right though because maybe she doesn’t know all of Obama’s positions on important issues, in which case, I think that’s even worse.

. There is a difference between “voting no” on the war in the beginning, but supporting the operation once launched.

I’m very well aware of that, but I’ve actually listened to Obama and he has no support for this war and wants to get our troops home. He didn’t vote for it, nor does he support it. I did not make that statement in reference to Ms. Johannson, I was simply stating the position of her Presidential Candidate of choice.

Lastly, I’d like to wish you well and hope you return safely home soon.

1. The idea of her being “anti-war” was implied in a number of comments, and in the whole story itself. Would Ron Silver, a noted opponent of the President on domestic matters but active supporter of the Iraq War visiting “the troops” be such a big deal?

2. It is not proper to assume any such thing about her views on the war.

3. Mookie said she “has spoke out” (sic), not that she “doesn’t support the war.” And there most certainly is a difference–one is a silent failing, the other is borderline(?) treason.

4. There is a difference between “voting no” on the war in the beginning, but supporting the operation once launched. I am currently on deployment in Kosovo in the Balkans. This operation was launched under Clinton. Many Republicans and conservatives disagreed with intervening here, but (unlike the opposition to the recently-started conflicts), they “supported” the operation out of loyalty to their country.

Now, Mookie: Where and when did she “[speak] out against the war, saying that it’s one of the reasons she’s supporting Obama”? There are two components to your own words. Your answer must point to her 1: announcing in a public way she opposes the Iraq War (and “spoke out” suggests it was done in a rather “activist” way), and 2: explaining that this opposition of hers contributed directly to her decision to support B. Hussein Obama.

Mookie at #34 said she “has spoke out against the war, saying that it’s one of the reasons she’s supporting Obama…”

It’s helpful, then, to address the person who said that she made antiwar statements instead of making an inference that we all argued that point. Mookie is capable of finding the quote, I’m sure. However, one can easily assume if she’s supporting Obama(who doesn’t support the war and who wouldn’t have voted for the war had he been a Senator at the time)that Johannson herself doesn’t support the war.