The Barack and Billy beatdown
Update: Vid here.
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Barack Obama takes on Billy Boy. What else is there for conservatives to do but sit back and enjoy the fight? What shade of purple will Clinton be turning today?
Sen. Barack Obama says he’s ready to confront former President Bill Clinton, calling his advocacy on behalf of his wife’s presidential campaign, “troubling.”
In an exclusive interview with ABC News’ Robin Roberts “Good Morning America” today Obama, D-Ill., directly engaged the former democratic president on a series of issues.
“You know the former president, who I think all of us have a lot of regard for, has taken his advocacy on behalf of his wife to a level that I think is pretty troubling,” Obama said during his first morning television interview since coming in second in Nevada. “He continues to make statements that are not supported by the facts — whether it’s about my record of opposition to the war in Iraq or our approach to organizing in Las Vegas.
“This has become a habit, and one of the things that we’re going to have to do is to directly confront Bill Clinton when he’s making statements that are not factually accurate,” Obama added.
Obama apparently was referring to Clinton’s comment that it was a “fairy tale” that Obama has consistently opposed the Iraq war from the start, and that Nevada union officials backing Obama were strong-arming members into caucusing for Obama.
Bill Clinton took on Obama’s record on Iraq at a Dartmouth College event days before the New Hampshire primary, saying it was wrong Obama was able to trumpet superior judgment on Iraq by claiming he had been against the war from the start.
“Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen,” Bill Clinton said.
Bill Clinton was making the case that Obama — just like Sen. Hillary Clinton — had voted to fund the war since he’s been in office.
Obama said the former president has taken his campaigning on his wife’s behalf too far.
“I understand him wanting to promote his wife’s candidacy,” Obama said. “She’s got a record that she can run on. But I think it’s important that we try to maintain some — you know, level of honesty and candor during the course of the campaign. If we don’t, then we feed the cynicism that has led so many Americans to be turned off to politics.”
Juliette at Baldilocks calls it “The Great Identity Politics War:”
The remarkable thing about the statements as a tactic is this: it changes the nature of this war–a war called the 2008 Democrat nomination process, but is one that may be dubbed the Great Identity Politics War when we look back on it.
Obama has–wisely–changed to a more vulnerable target. No longer does the battle pit Man against Woman–one in which the woman is perceived to be the underdog even if the man is black and the woman is white. Now it’s Black Man against White Man–and you know who the alleged underdog is in this battle.
Just remember the nature of Identity Politics Wars; the “weaker” opponent is always the victor.
Unless it’s moderated by a schoolmarm, tonight’s South Carolina/Congressional Black Caucus/CNN Democrat debate should be better than pay-per-view boxing.
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ooh baby. Good, good stuff. Hee hee.
after the last love-in do you really think it will be this way? then again boxing isnt what it used to be.
I hope Obama goes for the throat on HRC tonight, asking Oink to explain her husband’s attacks and whether or not she agrees with Boink.
But it’s still politics… I need a vacation.
The Hill could do the rope-a-dope and pretend that her husband’s comments are a non-issue in an attempt to drive BO to an emotional outburst.
Or it could turn into one of those Flintstones boxing matches where the fighters take turns clubbing each other over the head.
But I’m betting on Barry skirting the subject, hinting at the large pale spectre of the former president’s involvement, and seeing a switch thrown in the Bellower’s psyche. High-toned fireworks ensue and–poof!–just like a manic Iowa scream, a campaign effectively comes to an end.
I expect the same old rants…I’m going to do this,blah blah blah BS. and dont forget “change”
I would love nothing more than to see some bare knuckle politics for a change on the Democrat side. I have a feeling it is going to be another kumbaya love fest while the remaining 3 candidates tell us how they are going to give us nothing but spare change to live on once they and a Democrat lead Congress get a hold of our wallets.
Let’s get ready to rumble!
I think this refers to the whole Democrat Party.
Look at it this way:
Bill - Fairy Godfather
Hill - Wicked Witch
Barack - Good Hunter
Jimmy - Evil Stepfather.
…and you could go on and on.
What we don’t have is a prince and princess, but abound with alot of prima donnas.
I think I now understand why Edwards is still in the race.
We all know what Hillary’s response to this will be;
“I have no control over what my husband says. He has his own opinions.”
(yeah, she’d be right…no control.)
Not her fault. How dare anyone imply otherwise.
I suspect Obama felt differently about Bill’s lies when Bill was President. Like every other Democrat, lies are okay when they serve them and bad when they don’t.
I’m thinking that this one may be a slugfest. Obambi’s lost momentum to the Shrill having lost the last 2 rounds, and every time the Beast backs him into a corner her tag team partner,Big Bubba hits him with a chair. Look for lots of ducking of Q’s while jabbering and dancing. This one may go 12 rounds.
The Democrat “debate” will not feature any opportunity for Obama HUSSEIN to do any damage to the communist wife of the philanderer.
Nothing that involves the Clintons happens by accident. Their plot (as usual) is a carefully scripted choreographed sham designed to accomplish specific objectives.
I agree. These people have what my mom calls “selective memory”. I believe some Dems think that when they lie it’s ok because they are the ones who really care.
I hope Obambi grew some gonads and comes out swinging tonite, instead of those wimpy kumbaya moments from the NBC debate.
8 PM ET on CNN tonite
Isn’t that every debate?
Everytime I think of the Dems last debate it makes me think of that Barney song my girls used to love:
I love you
You love me
We’re a happy family
With a great big hug and a kiss from me to you
Won’t you say you love me too.
AAAAGGGGHHHH!
Plenty of whining from both sides here. Bubba is boiling over with anger because this little upstart is sucking up all the oxygen in the room and the money that was supposed to go to his “third term”.
Holy Carp Navywife!
It took me years to get that song out of my memory banks.thanks alot! ugh!
Well maybe the spin will be; “They are BOTH victims of a vast right wing conspiracy to pit minorities against women”.
And I wonder who they will blame?
30 pieces of silver:
I need a “vacation” from this stuff, too.
Good one.
The “debate” rhetoric is so very damned mind-numbing and inane (I guess it’s supposed to be that way for maximum effect) - Orwell got it right -
“Four legs good, two legs bad”………..baahh-aah-aah-aah-aah
Sorry, aj!
I have a feeling that I’ve doomed myself to humming it all. day. long.
I just felt that Kumbaya didn’t do that debate justice.
Billy Boy is all upset because someone is getting in the way of HIS 3rd term …
Say what you will … if she gets elected he will in fact be the President again behind the scenes … anyone that doesn’t believe that has not been paying attention for all these years …
That is the real reason she ran for the Senate after they left DC … the object was always to get him back in the White House …
Has it not struck anyone else as odd that literally every president has left office and moved back to where he came from and lowered their profile … not these 2 … they immediately move to the highly liberal-Dem city of New York so they can take advantage of his still strong coattails to get her elected by the sheep there to be in position for this run at regaining power …
Personally I prefer the Teddy Kennedy quote “Osama Obama”
Obambi:
BJ (turning mauve):
Obambi:
BJ (turning purple, veins pulsing):
Obambi:
BJ (full-on fushcia):
Who says fairy tales are better than real life?
Work949,
I mean I understand all the fervor but it’s everywhere. It helps if I picture myself on a beach (preferably in the Caribbean) sipping a Bahama Mama or something.
I have always felt the trouble the Clinton’s have with Barack is that on policy there is little difference.
Thus, it all comes down to style and personality. That is why he has become such a threat because he has a lot more of both of those things.
Obama is a lot more vulnerable in the general election when his policy positions can be contrasted with the opponent, unlike now, when they are arguing over who’s health care plan is more socialized or who can get troops out of Iraq quicker. The Clintons frankly have little to attack Obama on because the Dem electorate isn’t buying the inexperience bit, one reason is because Hillary isn’t that much more experienced. It will be different in the general if he gets there.
Here is how I analyzed Barack Obama.
Said it before, will say it again. If Obama keeps the heat on the Clintons at the level he is, he’d best stay out of small planes, parks, train tracks and get rid of all small handguns. The Clintons have already proved several times over they will stop at nothing to achieve the goal. If they can’t smear them badly enough, well…..
Re-read “Bloodsport” - it’s just scary.
I think its a pretty safe bet that you will see some serious pandering tonight.
As many have noted this morning, this seems to be all about ‘BJ’s third term’ - it would be fun to have him on the stage at the debate.
Oh, one better, lets have a “spouse” debate; I suspect that Michelle Obama might wipe the floor with Billy Boy.
Even if Hillary loses her cool, won’t that make her “more real” to the double standard feminazis and engender even more blindered loyalty? A uppity black pushed her buttons? You saw that some women are outraged because Oprah came out for Hussein Obambi instead of her Inevitableness. Worse case outcome Hillary= Chavez/Mugambe wreaking havoc on capitalism with her socialist it takes a village income redistribution BS. Of course the Clintons are doing more than ok since leaving WH.
I do wonder what effect a Bill Clinton myocardial infarction brought on by Obama charges would have on the race? Even MORE sympathy for the witch?
Don’t ever do that to me again, I had flash back’s from BSS (Barney Stress Syndrome), I caught my self smothering a stuffed animal.:)
This debate could be fun to watch, but I’m not sure I will. Let’s see if Bill respond’s. in …..1……2……3 Bwahahahaha.
Exactly - giving the pathetic state of boxing, a paint-drying competition would get more viewers.
Well put as far as it goes; I’d tack on selective morality, situational ethics, optional regard for the truth and seeing laws as purely advisory as well.
An arms-length relationship to logic, evidence, reason and even reality itself is the inevitable product of a belief system which believes that its “good intentions” justify any means.
Thanks for the link, Michelle, and I can see that the Schadenfraude is flowing freely.
Mine too.
Schadenfräude
“Oh Oprah, where art thou?”
I had such hopes that Obama would be our nation’s bulwark against Billary garnering a third term in the presidency, should the GOP err and nominate its least electable candidate (insert Huckabee’s name here), but after South Carolina, and with Hispanics coming out against him, I just don’t see any other states lining up behind him; in fact, I doubt he will even take Illinois.
Unless Oprah and the Hollywood-than-thou folk break their reticence - and soon - the Obama wave will have been but a mere ripple in the Clintons’ otherwise smooth sail to receiving the Democrat
nominationcoronation.Now to be sure, I firmly believe Carl Rove is correct in stating that the Republican nominee can defeat the Clintons - after all, we’re right on health care, energy, the economy, immigration, and certainly security-military matters - but the question is will he?
Will our nominee have the drive and fortitude it takes to win? Because remember, once Obama exits the campaign trail and Hillary becomes the Democrats’ official nominee, not only will our guy have the arduous task of taking on both Clintons, he will simultaneously be defending against a daily barrage of media attacks.
The GOP has had the luxury of keeping Hillary tied up in battle with Obama for a good while now, but that time is coming to an end and soon the Clinton machine will be free to turn its full venom towards us!
Thus, before Obama is routed from the nomination process, it is urgent the GOP coalesce around the single candidate who has best shown he has the fire in his belly to win against the Clintons - asap - while there is time to steel him against the oncoming storm of Clinton attack ads and introduce him to the public.
But whether we take full advantage of this time of Hillary’s preoccupation to get behind our guy and properly bring him into public view or not, we must not abandon him to flail in the wind the way Oprah has done to her guy, Obama!
My appologies Blind mule and anyone else I’ve doomed to humming that annoying song for the remainder of the day/week.
Please forgive me!
Clearly a case of eruptile dysfunction.
I suspect you are wrong. Clinton’s lies served no one but Clinton himself. Many, many Democrats feel the same, or they wouldn’t be supporting Obama [aka, Not Hillary].
“I did not fall asleep at the MLK Service, let me make it absolutely clear, I DID NOT FALL ASLEEP at that Service” Bill Clinton
Later that Day Matt Drudge releases the video showing billy falling asleep.
“I wasn’t asleep, I was resting my eyes. It depends on what your definition of sleep is.”