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		<title>By: Tax cuts for everyone &#171; Right Minded Online</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/22/the-global-market-meltdown-and-the-stimulus-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-551561</link>
		<dc:creator>Tax cuts for everyone &#171; Right Minded Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Random-American</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/22/the-global-market-meltdown-and-the-stimulus-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-229212</link>
		<dc:creator>Random-American</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.random-american.com/blog/?p=977&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Just as I had suspected&lt;/a&gt;, numerous illegal aliens are apparently walking away from their mortgages and abandoning their homes for foreclosure.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;From &lt;a href=&quot;http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iQouzi-WQPmPseZXHy1HuYogzGzw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;AFP&lt;/a&gt;:

The ripple in Arizona&#039;s economy has spread to other sectors. Real estate agent John Aguero Sr. said he gets four to seven calls each day from people asking about what they can do with their homes.

Fifteen out of 100 people who call Aguero &quot;are just walking away from their property,&quot; he said.

One man called and asked how long the foreclosure process would take if he skipped his 1,600 house payments. Aguero told him four months.

&quot;Well, I&#039;ll save that and just go home (to Guatemala),&quot; Aguero said. &quot;His wife is a citizen but he&#039;s not. The whole family will pack up and leave. He has three children, all of whom were born here.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Still waiting for the mainstream media to discuss this aspect, but I certainly won&#039;t be holding my breath while I wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.random-american.com/blog/?p=977" rel="nofollow">Just as I had suspected</a>, numerous illegal aliens are apparently walking away from their mortgages and abandoning their homes for foreclosure.  </p>
<blockquote><p>From <a href="http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iQouzi-WQPmPseZXHy1HuYogzGzw" rel="nofollow">AFP</a>:</p>
<p>The ripple in Arizona&#8217;s economy has spread to other sectors. Real estate agent John Aguero Sr. said he gets four to seven calls each day from people asking about what they can do with their homes.</p>
<p>Fifteen out of 100 people who call Aguero &#8220;are just walking away from their property,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>One man called and asked how long the foreclosure process would take if he skipped his 1,600 house payments. Aguero told him four months.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, I&#8217;ll save that and just go home (to Guatemala),&#8221; Aguero said. &#8220;His wife is a citizen but he&#8217;s not. The whole family will pack up and leave. He has three children, all of whom were born here.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Still waiting for the mainstream media to discuss this aspect, but I certainly won&#8217;t be holding my breath while I wait.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Stimulation-palooza moves forward: Pelosi, Boehner reach agreement</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/22/the-global-market-meltdown-and-the-stimulus-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-225915</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Stimulation-palooza moves forward: Pelosi, Boehner reach agreement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: conservativesRus</title>
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		<dc:creator>conservativesRus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still always puzzled why politicians think they are smarter than the market.  Hate to break it to them - but Adam Smith and the Invisible Hand are ALWAYS smarter than any of us individually.

We hear all the time - it&#039;s for the children - then why on earth are they insistent upon saddling the children with a mess?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still always puzzled why politicians think they are smarter than the market.  Hate to break it to them &#8211; but Adam Smith and the Invisible Hand are ALWAYS smarter than any of us individually.</p>
<p>We hear all the time &#8211; it&#8217;s for the children &#8211; then why on earth are they insistent upon saddling the children with a mess?</p>
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		<title>By: graysonret</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/22/the-global-market-meltdown-and-the-stimulus-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224775</link>
		<dc:creator>graysonret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much for the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977. Guess that backfired.  Now we need more meddling by the Feds. All this so-called stimulus package will accomplish is more control of the economy by the government. Chavez, et.al., at least did it all at once, rather than our government who has to be sneaky over time.  Results are the same. Government control of the economy.  If I own a business and make a contract with a customer, it can be &quot;legally reviewed&quot; by the government. In fact, even a private contract between citizens now, can be held &quot;in review&quot;. If Washington doesn&#039;t like it, it can be terminated or adjusted to its liking. So say 9 judges. The idea of privately owned businesses is quickly heading into oblivion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much for the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977. Guess that backfired.  Now we need more meddling by the Feds. All this so-called stimulus package will accomplish is more control of the economy by the government. Chavez, et.al., at least did it all at once, rather than our government who has to be sneaky over time.  Results are the same. Government control of the economy.  If I own a business and make a contract with a customer, it can be &#8220;legally reviewed&#8221; by the government. In fact, even a private contract between citizens now, can be held &#8220;in review&#8221;. If Washington doesn&#8217;t like it, it can be terminated or adjusted to its liking. So say 9 judges. The idea of privately owned businesses is quickly heading into oblivion.</p>
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		<title>By: Papa Louie</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/22/the-global-market-meltdown-and-the-stimulus-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224772</link>
		<dc:creator>Papa Louie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...tightening credit and liquidity would be the better long-term strategy... That kind of strategy would force the country — and the globe — to suffer a recession as a corrective... 

Yes, God forbid politicians advocate that borrowers and lenders face the consequences of their actions… &lt;/blockquote&gt; Do I understand you correctly?  You want the Fed to tighten 
credit and cause a global recession on purpose?  And you think that only evil lenders and irresponsible borrowers will be hurt by this?  I suppose you will take care of any innocent people who lose their jobs or spouses during this recession and can neither make their payments nor sell their homes? 

The last recession was triggered by Osama Bin Laden.  I&#039;m sure he thought triggering a US recession &quot;would be good for the soul.&quot;  That was sure a lot of fun.  Let&#039;s do it again! How about an order of famine and pestilence to go with that recession?

I&#039;ve got another idea.  Since the Fed doesn&#039;t listen to any of us, what if we just elect a Democrat for President?  Then our taxes will increase until sooner or later we will get that recession we so long for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;tightening credit and liquidity would be the better long-term strategy&#8230; That kind of strategy would force the country — and the globe — to suffer a recession as a corrective&#8230; </p>
<p>Yes, God forbid politicians advocate that borrowers and lenders face the consequences of their actions… </p></blockquote>
<p> Do I understand you correctly?  You want the Fed to tighten<br />
credit and cause a global recession on purpose?  And you think that only evil lenders and irresponsible borrowers will be hurt by this?  I suppose you will take care of any innocent people who lose their jobs or spouses during this recession and can neither make their payments nor sell their homes? </p>
<p>The last recession was triggered by Osama Bin Laden.  I&#8217;m sure he thought triggering a US recession &#8220;would be good for the soul.&#8221;  That was sure a lot of fun.  Let&#8217;s do it again! How about an order of famine and pestilence to go with that recession?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got another idea.  Since the Fed doesn&#8217;t listen to any of us, what if we just elect a Democrat for President?  Then our taxes will increase until sooner or later we will get that recession we so long for.</p>
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		<title>By: Tax cuts for the rich? Yes! Tax cuts for the not so rich? HELL NO! &#171; Cowardly political musings&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/22/the-global-market-meltdown-and-the-stimulus-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224726</link>
		<dc:creator>Tax cuts for the rich? Yes! Tax cuts for the not so rich? HELL NO! &#171; Cowardly political musings&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But now that it&#8217;s a gimmicky tax cut for everyone, oh Lord, please protect us! From MichelleMalkin: Update: Bush says he can find “common ground” with Democrats on an economic stimulus. “Common ground” = Watch your wallets. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But now that it&#8217;s a gimmicky tax cut for everyone, oh Lord, please protect us! From MichelleMalkin: Update: Bush says he can find “common ground” with Democrats on an economic stimulus. “Common ground” = Watch your wallets. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mr_Conservative_Cat</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/22/the-global-market-meltdown-and-the-stimulus-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224724</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr_Conservative_Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mt stock broker is of the opinion that the marketperecptions aren&#039;t driven as much by panic as they once were, and figures in a few days things will even out when everyone realizes that the sky isn&#039;t falling. He said that on Friday, and the upturn at the end of the day today even after the asian markets tanked shows his crystal ball might be a little less foggy than most. Let&#039;s hope so, anyway. That would make most of the discussion on this thread moot, and that would actually be a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mt stock broker is of the opinion that the marketperecptions aren&#8217;t driven as much by panic as they once were, and figures in a few days things will even out when everyone realizes that the sky isn&#8217;t falling. He said that on Friday, and the upturn at the end of the day today even after the asian markets tanked shows his crystal ball might be a little less foggy than most. Let&#8217;s hope so, anyway. That would make most of the discussion on this thread moot, and that would actually be a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Random-American - News Analysis and the Rantings of an Ordinary Citizen &#187; Bubbles, financial &#8216;crisis,&#8217; and government intervention</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/22/the-global-market-meltdown-and-the-stimulus-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224708</link>
		<dc:creator>Random-American - News Analysis and the Rantings of an Ordinary Citizen &#187; Bubbles, financial &#8216;crisis,&#8217; and government intervention</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 1-22-2008* See Michelle Malkin for more on this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/22/the-global-market-meltdown-and-the-stimulus-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224657</link>
		<dc:creator>Unpartisan.com Political News and Blog Aggregator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;White House Mulls Stimulus Plan...&lt;/strong&gt;

President Bush won&#039;t rule out the possibility of a larger economic stimulus package than the $150 bi...</description>
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<p>President Bush won&#8217;t rule out the possibility of a larger economic stimulus package than the $150 bi&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: beenthere</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/22/the-global-market-meltdown-and-the-stimulus-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224612</link>
		<dc:creator>beenthere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To whom it may concern:

The laws of economics are inviolate.  They are as solid as mathematics, they are far more trustworthy than physics.  As long as there are individuals, and there are values, and knowledge and abilities differ, there will me economics.  Governments can try to change the game, bend the rules, load the dice, but they cannot escape the unpredictable costs and consequences of their actions.  Trust me: they will not like the consequences.  Neither will we.

Or to put it another way: &quot;compassionate conservatism&quot; = economic incompetence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To whom it may concern:</p>
<p>The laws of economics are inviolate.  They are as solid as mathematics, they are far more trustworthy than physics.  As long as there are individuals, and there are values, and knowledge and abilities differ, there will me economics.  Governments can try to change the game, bend the rules, load the dice, but they cannot escape the unpredictable costs and consequences of their actions.  Trust me: they will not like the consequences.  Neither will we.</p>
<p>Or to put it another way: &#8220;compassionate conservatism&#8221; = economic incompetence.</p>
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		<title>By: Buzzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I no longer believe that either party has anything close to a &quot;right&quot; idea about what to do with the economy.  In fact, I think the &quot;free market&quot; has become anything but free due to collusion and market fixing.  Face it, our dollar is near worthless and everyone&#039;s plan is to throw more worthless money at the problem.  Our government stopped restraining corporations from preying on our citizens and we have the subprime mess and much much more to show us that Teddy Roosevelt was correct to bush up monopolies and trusts.  This is especially true now when everyone on either side of the Presidential race is a corporate shill of some type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I no longer believe that either party has anything close to a &#8220;right&#8221; idea about what to do with the economy.  In fact, I think the &#8220;free market&#8221; has become anything but free due to collusion and market fixing.  Face it, our dollar is near worthless and everyone&#8217;s plan is to throw more worthless money at the problem.  Our government stopped restraining corporations from preying on our citizens and we have the subprime mess and much much more to show us that Teddy Roosevelt was correct to bush up monopolies and trusts.  This is especially true now when everyone on either side of the Presidential race is a corporate shill of some type.</p>
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		<title>By: The Raging Republican</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/22/the-global-market-meltdown-and-the-stimulus-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224589</link>
		<dc:creator>The Raging Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 01:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want to help easy the crunch on American&#039;s pocket books? &lt;strong&gt;Cut all the pork and give us our money back! &lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to help easy the crunch on American&#8217;s pocket books? <strong>Cut all the pork and give us our money back! </strong></p>
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		<title>By: BlameAmericaLast</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlameAmericaLast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Common ground isn&#039;t:

1. Canning the AMT
2. Making the tax cuts permanent
3. Cutting spending

So, what is it? 

1. Keeping the non-inflation adjusted AMT to keep taxing the rich! damnit! We need that easy money! We can&#039;t give it up now. 
2. Making sure we get a Democrat in office, and keep the congress in our hands so we can get rid of this stupid tax cuts for the rich! Imagine if we can&#039;t tax the dead anymore! We can&#039;t possibly have that!
3. Let&#039;s spend more money, we&#039;ll just tax the rich when we need to. That&#039;s what we&#039;ve always done in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Common ground isn&#8217;t:</p>
<p>1. Canning the AMT<br />
2. Making the tax cuts permanent<br />
3. Cutting spending</p>
<p>So, what is it? </p>
<p>1. Keeping the non-inflation adjusted AMT to keep taxing the rich! damnit! We need that easy money! We can&#8217;t give it up now.<br />
2. Making sure we get a Democrat in office, and keep the congress in our hands so we can get rid of this stupid tax cuts for the rich! Imagine if we can&#8217;t tax the dead anymore! We can&#8217;t possibly have that!<br />
3. Let&#8217;s spend more money, we&#8217;ll just tax the rich when we need to. That&#8217;s what we&#8217;ve always done in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Speakup</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/22/the-global-market-meltdown-and-the-stimulus-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224518</link>
		<dc:creator>Speakup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chicken little syndrome.

IMHO

World markets are set up with speculation playing a certain percentage and those that gamble swim like a school of fish toward a food source in a feeding frenzy or franticly fleeing a shark. 

Other than its good for the Feds to lower the interest rates, the market isn&#039;t that bad, the doom and gloomers just have to much influence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chicken little syndrome.</p>
<p>IMHO</p>
<p>World markets are set up with speculation playing a certain percentage and those that gamble swim like a school of fish toward a food source in a feeding frenzy or franticly fleeing a shark. </p>
<p>Other than its good for the Feds to lower the interest rates, the market isn&#8217;t that bad, the doom and gloomers just have to much influence.</p>
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