Hunter endorses Huck…heads explode
Strange bedfellows
California Rep. Duncan Hunter, a former presidential candidate, announced Wednesday he is endorsing Mike Huckabee’s White House bid.
“I got to know Governor Huckabee well on the campaign trail,” Huckabee said in a statement. “Of the remaining candidates I feel that he is strongly committed to strengthening national defense, constructing the border fence and meeting the challenge of China’s emergence as a military superpower that is taking large portions of America’s industrial base.
“Along with these issues of national security, border enforcement and protecting the U.S. industrial base, I see another quality of Mike Huckabee’s candidacy that compels my endorsement,” he added. “Mike Huckabee is a man of outstanding character and integrity. I saw that character over the last year of campaigning and was greatly impressed. The other Republican candidates have many strengths and I wish them all well.”
Maybe Huck promised him a Cabinet position. Nothing else makes sense.
Disbelief at the Free Republic. This reaction sums it up: “Is this from the Onion?”
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Let’s review:
Duncan Hunter - Keep Guantanamo Bay open
Mike Huckabee - Close Gitmo
Duncan Hunter - Staunch border security advocate
Mike Huckabee - Open-borders ethno-panderer
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Allah: “Mr. Border Fence is backing a guy who accused opponents of Bush’s immigration plan of nativism? Two days after Fred drops out because he can’t pull enough conservatives to beat John McCain? Dude?”
Byron York: “The endorsement of Huckabee just doesn’t seem to fit, given Hunter’s national-security orientation, concern about China, all that. I thought it seemed so odd that, when I got the email a few minutes ago, I called Hunter’s spokesman to make sure it was right. It’s not huge news – Hunter got all of 1,048 votes in the South Carolina – but a number of conservatives who paid close attention to the race liked Hunter, and they usually weren’t the sort to support Huckabee.”
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“Maybe Huck promised him a Cabinet position. Nothing else makes sense.’
First thing that crossed my mind.
Now THIS I can’t understand.
Temptation huh?
Kinda like the Devil tempting Jesus?
What would Jesus do?
………………..
This just keeps getting worse.
At some point the stone throwers will wake up and realize that all of the candidates are bad. It is amazing to me that people are more appalled at the thought of some candidates but not others. They are all atrocious for the conservative cause. The fault is that of the GOP itself.
In only four days, Duncan Hunter went from “Graceful Exit” - to a leaping spread-eagled face-plant on the sidewalk.
Bad move, Mr. Hunter.
I hope I wake up and find that all of this was just a nightmare.
This race gets stranger and stranger every day.
Sorry, gayle. Not gonna happen.
That’s more like it…
Was Chuck Norris twisting his arm? I didn’t see this one coming, WOW! I think pigs just flew.
Only closed-minded heads are exploding. The beltway elites don’t represent the Republican Party.
Insomniac
I’ll go along with the change. It’s more appropriate.
I definitely think Chuck Norris was a factor, madchef. He went Delta Force on him.
The hell…?
GRRRRR!
That’s it! I am absolutely fed up with all of them. Breathe, Hefty, breathe!
GRRRRR!
What in the world, over?!
One careless moment can really damage your political reputation.
Way to go, Duncan. You just damaged yours, big time.
What’s next, Thompson throwing his support to Paul?
Goofiness is in the air!
That shows that Duncan Hunter has bad judgment and would not have made a good president. Huckabee put a Mexican consulate in the small city of Little Rock, which can only mean that he WANTED illegal immigration in his state. Huckabee has been endorsed by the socialist, anti-voucher NEA. Huckabee believes global warming is caused by man. Huckabee is a pro-life liberal.
And Duncan Hunter endorses Huckabee? Too weird.
Yeah, like Head of the Department of Bonehead Security.
What the hell is going on? I guess Hunter’s out of a job and needs work.
At this rate Hillary’s going to be the “conservative” candidate.
I guess it’s a sign of the end times. Up is down, left is right, etc.
Do not even joke, purplepeep!
I told you, Hunter gave a prelude to something like this on his Neil Cavuto interview a few days ago. I called him a clown then and I stand by it.
This endorsement is a betrayal of anyone that did support him.
I’m starting to resent Fred’s non-endorsement -of anyone- too.
A Former Fredhead (I liked Duncan, I just never thought he’d go as far as Fred) Romney’s the only thing resembling sanity left.
“What’s next, Thompson throwing his support to Paul?”
It’s getting so that you expect just about any kind of craziness to come down the pike, NavyWife!
Wow. Great visual!!
What the Huck?!?!?!?
What will the Fredheads do when F.T. supports McCain?
I prefer his non-endorsement to Duncan’s idiotic endorsment of Gomer Pyle.
As the old saying goes, better to be thought of as an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
See ya, Duncan - we hardly knew ya.
Yeah, Minn Lass, it’s sad when we got a sorry lot to start with and then have to “settle” for who’s the least stinko. Ah, well…
What the hell? How does he get all these endorsements? I thinks Chuck is twisting arms!!!!!!
I hope to heaven Fred doesn’t support Huck or McCain. All my respect I had for him is down the drain.
L
Yep
I do not believe Huckabee can win the race in November. The Democrats will spoof him. That is why they want Huck or McCain (who thinks Putin is the president of Germany—see Drudge video).
Agree with mngirl. We need to play the cards we have: Romney.
May God help us find the right candidate inspite of Hunter’s defection of the immigration issue.
Hunter must have gone on one Huck of a bender after droping out of the race. Can we get him to submit to a breathalizer test, it might explain alot.
I swear we’re living in Bizarro World.
Too bad that Fred gave up so soon … I can assure you he would have pulled many of the Hunter voters to him on Feb 5
I still think had the states that vote on Feb 5 gotten their chance to be heard with the full slate of candidates he would have been very much back in the race … but alas the rest of us voters don’t seem to matter …
This is exactly why I say we need a national primary day … we have had 12% of the states determine who is left for the remaining 88% of the states to select from … that is total BS and in my view makes the primaries a worthless waste of time, effort and money …
With all due respect to those living there I can assure you I am not swayed by who the people in Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, Montana, Michigan and South Carolina think should be the candidate …
What I care about is the people in the state where I live and who they think should be the candidate … our issues are much more the illegal alien situation and the fence … we are the ones that it directly affects here in the SW …
With the exception of Michigan the metropolitan area I live is has a higher population than any one of those entire states that have already voted …
So now tell me folks … what percentage of the population just determined who is left to vote for … out of roughly nationally 300 million states with about 25 million residents have decided who the rest of us can and can’t select for presidential candidates … I realize that is not the number of voters … but it is the population …
It takes 2,345 delegates to win the Republican nomination … so far there have been 154 delegates voted for and split up amongst candidates … so what are the rest of us … chopped liver?
Sorry … but I had to get this said …
/rant off/
Huckabee has taken a strong position on immigration. Maybe the strongest of any candidate left. The question is whether he can be trusted.
I think the funny thing about this is that here seems to be no way Huck wins the nomination or the general. In which case, why bother with the endorsement?
What did he say?
#31, As far as I can tell, there is NO candidate willing to deal with the illegal issue honestly. It is all smoke from all of them. It is the #1 issue to me living in S. TX. It will solve a gob of our nations problems if we can get someone to deal with it.
L
A scene from Ghostbusters comes to mind:
Dr. Peter Venkman: This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.
Mayor: What do you mean, “biblical”?
Dr Ray Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath-of-God type stuff.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Exactly.
Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.
Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes…
Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria.
DesertLover #34
check this great piece…
Whose Primaries are They?
by Jed Babbin (more by this author)
Posted 01/21/2008 ET
Just whose primary elections have we been following so closely? If you think they were Republican affairs, think again. Iowa, New Hampshire, Michigan and South Carolina all allow crossover voters — independents and Democrats — to vote in the Republican primaries. In Florida, only registered Republicans can vote in the Republican primary. Though Florida isn’t a typical Red state, it will be the first real barometer of Republican voters’ thinking.
There’s a reason no clear leader has emerged from the crowd: so far, only a tiny minority of Republicans have actually voted, and the results do not reflect any Republican consensus. Why? In Michigan, for example, the Kos Kidz were very active pushing hard for Dems to vote in the Republican primary to cause whatever mischief they could manage. We are left to wonder how the crossover voters have skewed the result. Were they decisive or did they just affect at the margins?
According to a Fox News exit poll, 32% of the Michigan Republican primary voters identified themselves as independents or Democrats. Another Fox exit poll showed 20% of the South Carolina Republican primary voters said they were either Democrats or independents. In Michigan, Gov. Romney won with 39%, Sen. McCain was second at 30% and Gov. Huckabee third at 16%. In South Carolina, John McCain won with 33% of the vote, Mike Huckabee had 30% and Fred Thompson had 16%. Given those margins, it’s pretty clear that the Dems and independents controlled the result in both states.
To win the Republican nomination a candidate has to capture the votes of 1191 convention delegates. So far, Romney has 42, McCain has 28 and Huckabee has 35. The total of 105 represents only 9% of the total. On February 5, Super Tuesday, 22 states will vote and 1132 delegates — 95% of the total needed to capture the nomination — will be at stake. Between Super Tuesday and the June 3 primaries in Montana, South Dakota and New Mexico, another 1061 delegates will be chosen. In most of those states, only Republicans will be able to vote in the primaries.
By June 4, it’s almost certain that the nominee will be effectively chosen. But there’s a long time — almost five months – before June 3 goes into the record books, and in that time it’s still anyone’s game.
The value of the early primaries is diminished enormously by the crossover votes. They preclude the determination of a consensus candidate. But they do enable the media to spin an imaginary consensus around the early winners and around the issues the media – not Republican voters — believe are most important.
the rest… http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24560
Guess that takes care of any VP spot for him except under Huckster?
At least Hunter did not have that many delegates/support.
ALL of the candidates competed against each other in each of these contests. The problem is not the states that these primaries were held in, it was about how the candidates compare with each other.
OK, now we’ve had midwest contests (Iowa, Michigan), Northeast contest (New Hampshire), Southern contest (South Carolina - Florida next), and a Western contest (Nevada, Wyoming).
But according to YOU, this is not representative of the country. What YOU want is a mail in candidate who only cares about New York City, Los Angeles, Houston, and Chicago. You don’t think that the candidate should know anything about the farmers in Iowa, Coal miners in WV, Casino workers in Nevada. . .
The founding fathers set up a system so that large populated areas would not have too much sway. Our process is fine just the way it is. It is plenty representative of the nation.
A national primary would cheapen the office of the presidency. Every state should have a primary on a separate day so that the needs of that state get addressed by the people who want to be their ‘leader’. This nation has issues that need to be addressed. The only way to address them properly is to go to the states and find out from them what they are concerned with. Different states have different needs of the federal government.
Our nomination process is fine. The problem is that we would not have had any good candidates if this nomination process was any different anyway.
I am reminded of new word I learned several days ago regarding the 2008 elections:
Electile Dysfunction : the inability to become aroused over any of the choices for president put forth by either party in the 2008 election year.
Things like this just make me want to take about a five year nap.
Another option would be to dump primaries altogether, DL.
We need a national primary day where the whole country votes on the cadidates. I was going to vote for Fred but didn’t get a chance because I live in Virginia. The present system BLOWS.
Well, Duncan Hunter talked a big game about border security. It now appears it was nothing but talk. Endorsing Huckster shows that Hunter was for sale.
Hunter was on the show and Cavuto was trying to get him to endorse someone or at least say something good about ANY candidate. Hunter had nothing good to say about any candidate and chose to trash only one candidate - Romney - for some Bain Capital deal in China.
I’m still trying to find the deal. My guess says it was something in the last 7 years, when Romney did not even work there. Besides, if Hunter doesn’t like something about it, has he forgotten, he’s a US Congressman, go do something about it if its illegal or smaks of unfair trade.
The Romney association to the China deal is a little like trying to hold GWB responsible for any steroid use of the current Texas Rangers.
purplepeep … I couldn’t go for that because then all of the elites of each state party would be the delegates to the conventions to select candidates and the people would not really have a voice …
also … in my #31 I meant to say it took a majority of the 2,345 delegates … not that it took 2,345 delegates to win the nomination … which is how it read … sorry about that … dyslexia while typing caused by rant mode being in full force …
Thank you Thacker #4. I couldn’t agree more. They all are terrible. I still maintain in some ways, Hillary would be less damaging to the country than the current crop of R’s. At least with Hillary, the R’s in congress would fight her, but if we have an R as president, Congress would just go along and flush us.
So much for We the People.
This FORMER Hunter delegate’s head has exploded.
Mitt is now the last standing candidate who may hopefuully veto Shamnesty ‘09.
If Mitt doesn’t win, I’m headed for France.
You are dangerously and irrationally deranged with your hatred for Mike Huckabee.
As the Ghostbusters once said…
“What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath-of-God type stuff.”
“Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.”
“Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes…”
“The dead rising from the grave.”
“Duncan Hunter supporting Mike Hucksterby!”
“Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria!”
I’m in shock. Utter shock.
Uggghhhh…
*Drool oozes out of the corner of my mouth…*
See
I was very careful on just how I would contribute my meager funds. Tancredo and Hunter were my recipients, as I felt they were much like me in their thinking.”WRONG”. After Bush, I felt that there were still some real Americans left near Political Power.”WRONG”. What the Huck is right.
I’ll join you.
“purplepeep said: Another option would be to dump primaries altogether”
My thinking is if delegates are elected at the local level, starting with the precinct, the average concerned folks - or at least their issues - will to make up the vast majority at a convention. (I’m from a caucus background so it probably has more appeal to me.)
Here is the deal that Hunter is angry about concerning Romney:
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/02/hunter-romney-should-denounce-bain-capitals-chinese-ties/
A Chinese company purchased a minority stake in 3Com last month. 3Com has DoD contracts. You can read it from there. In my opinion it is still a deal for the President and Congress to deal with, not a manager from 7 years ago.
Romney’s campaign provided CNN the following statement in response to the request from Hunter, “Governor Romney is no longer involved in Bain Capital and their investment decisions.”
greysheepdog
thanks for the link …
Oops! Sorry J.S. Ragman, didn’t realize you put the same Ghostbuster quote down there before me. (post #38) Must have missed that one by accident. Ah well, great minds think alike.
Revolution is the only answer.
Based on this endorsement and whatI read above, that Hunter attacked Romney, I have lost lots of respect for Hunter. That just show his lack of insight and experience.
AH HA!
Now you see, boys and girls, why I keep asking you not what your chosen candidate has said, but what is his record of manifest, tangible accomplishment relevent to the executive position of President of the United Sates (and why I’m supporting Rudy who has the strongest record of actual executive accomplishment).
Mitt could do the same thing as Hunter(he’s certainly “changed his mind” plenty). McCain could (although reversing his positions would probably be a help among conservatives). Or Huckabee. Or even Rudy, of course.
That being the case, what do you support in the list of candidates which decides who you support as candidate?
Talk is cheap and easy. Anyone with a good voice and a complete lack of ethical conviction can pose as a true-blue conservative and seem to mean it, and the rewards of being President are such that many will do just exactly that - pose…. and lie.
That being the case, I strongly urge everyone to examine their candidates’ manifest record(s) of tangible accomplishment and vote exclusively on that. Hunter has proved it. There’s no point in further analysis, quite frankly. This is simnple. Mere talk is worthless. That’s it.
One of the things that I find ?amazing? - most Americans don’t understand what the POTUS does vs. Congress. McCan’t claims all these things he’ll do as POTUS - well Congress is the place where rules get written. So McCant has already shown his ineptitude. (As well as Paul) The Governors have demonstrated by their past actions on immigration, socialization, big goverment, etc, their RINO tendencies. Rudy - well, he was just lucky to be mayor of a city that got hit by terrorists or we’d not know of him. So what are we left with. Can I vote for Reagan?
Are you sure that is the same Duncan Hunter who came to the September 15 counter-rally against the hate America always, antiwar moonbats? We spent a fair amount of time among those chatting with him that day and Hunter endorsing Huckabee makes zero sense to me.
I also contributed, in order, to Tancredo (to keep the issue up front), Hunter, and then Thompson. And I was a declared Hunter delegate!!
Never have I been so disappointed.
Ask me for my stock picks.
this is truly shocking, as i cannot figure out why hunter would be supporting the huckster. supposedly, hunter was one of the ‘true’ conservatives. although, i found him interesting, he never impressed me with being prepared to lead this country.
now, i know why. OMG. this couldn’t get any more laughable. hopefully, the fog will lift on Feb 5 and mcpain and the huckster will be sent packing, along with their phony endorsers.
Given his border stance, the only more insane pick for him could have been to support McCain. Even Paul would have been better given his stance on borders.
I think I saw Satan at Wal-Mart buying ice skates.
WOW. To think I was a Hunter fan.
Ranks up there with Pat Robertson throwing his support to pro-abortion Rudy because they are friends.
It ALL makes you go: WTH
hey lead based, i am a christian, and i don’t hate huck, i just know that he is a pro-life democrat. he has lied about his record. as a christian i tend to judge their fruit. he conducts himself as a slimy snake like charlatan.
he is liberal and i am a conservative. i judge him by his record not by his words. besides when he was gov of ark i was living in north east oklahoma (near the border of arkansas), i remember his baloney then and he can sing and dance any tune he wants today. I DON’t BELIEVE HIM. Hunter what a tool.
First the head of the Minutemen endorses Huck, now Hunter. We’re told that Huck now supports vigorous border enforcement, though he only adopted this view a few weeks ago. (And Romney’s bad for flipping to the right as the election grew closer?)
How can these supposedly strong people suddenly embrace the 2nd-worst possible option? Could it be that Huck isn’t an Evangelical Baptist, but actually a SITH LORD?!?!? Are they under mind control?
Or are they just political creatures who instantly forget their principles at the first whiff of possible power? (Duh.)
Two words to describe the value of this endorsement: Duncan who?
One should never meet their heroes. They are almost always bound to be a disappointment in real life.
I can see friendship between the two men as being the reason for such a move on Duncan’s part, but not much else.
On the
darkflip side of this, I am beginning to believe that GOPsters who emerge on the national stage get infected with some sort of brain disorder that makes them forget their roots (as well as their common sense).Duncan couldn’t make a dent in 2008 due to lack of funds, lack of imagination to break through the din of the political field, and probable lack of desire to just do nothing while assuming the most powerful position in the Free World.
As of now, I would only be disappointed if the endorsement was a result of the latter reason I outlined instead of it being the former.
Many in the Oklahoma and Texas Congressional delegations could probably do a better job than anyone running for the top job at the moment. But since that is not likely going to be the case, the last two candidates that Hunter supporters can intellectually follow, IMHO, are either Rudy or Mitt.
No matter what happens, a Democrat (from the current crop of politicos running) in the White House would be a disaster that must be avoided at ALL costs. But since this is still primary season, people can still make a difference and select the strongest conservative the party can possibly get at this point.
Here is a hint: It ain’t Mike or John.
Reagan was a great president in many ways but let’s not forget Sandra Day O’Connor and Anthony Kennedy. Hopefully, a future Republican president will choose better than he did.
Hate to say this - but unfortunately, the old saying “A country gets the government it deserves” is happening more and more. We as a nation have given up any semblance of our Judeo-Christian heritage in the past ?40? years and now we are reaping the government of that abandonment. Not a single current POTUS candidate will take us remotely in the right direction.
Color me not surprised but indeed disappointed.
greysheepdog#39 Good article by Jed B. It would be good if the early primary states, that insist on being first, would have closed elections and cauci. Then the candidates and the Party would have a better idea on the candidates ability to get out the Republican vote.
Here’s the link
Cavuto specifically asked him about Romney since Tancredo had endorsed Mitt. Hunter said (I’m paraphrasing from memory) that his problem with Romney had to do with Bain’s involvement with Huawei Technology in China. In 2007, Bain Capital and China’s Huawei Technology purchased 3Com in a deal valued at $2.2 billion.
Here are the important points:
1. 3Com makes internet technology that helps prevent hackers from getting into computer networks. The Pentagon buys these things. This is part of our national defense effort. The Chinese are now part owners.
2. Huawei Technology in the late 1990s - early 2000s sold networking technology to both Saddam in Iraq, and the Taliban in Afghanistan. The technology was used in anti-aircraft missle systems - code named “Tiger Song” by NATO - to try and shoot down US aircraft. Paid for with oil-for-food money.
3. The CEO of Huawei is former People’s Revolutionary Army Officer, with ties to the current Chinese military.
4. When Bain financed this acquisition last year, Hunter called on Romney to try and use his influence to thwart the deal. Romney basically blew him off with a short statement that he didn’t involve himself in Bain’s management decisions anymore. Fine if that’s all there was,
BUT
5. Romney is apparently still a stockholder in Bain. The Wa Po reported that the Romney family received between $7 and $15 million dollars from Bain (2006 or 7, not sure). To me this is a big deal. He has now personally profited from investments that involved selling a maker of national defense technology to a Chinese company that supported Saddam and the Taliban. Is this what we want in a President?
Haven’t we all gone off on Clinton for his deal with Loral, and his Saudi and Kuwait income, and Hill for accepting donations from a shady Chinese businessman?
All this is a preliminary investigation for me. I want to get to the bottom of it, but prima facie, this isn’t good.
“‘Why?’ said little Sally Who, who was no more than two.”
If the candidates are going to keep playing this fairy tale game with us, they could at least tell the ones we like - not the ones that leave us dumbfounded!
On January 23rd, 2008 at 4:53 pm, conservativesRus said:
Rudy - well, he was just lucky to be mayor of a city that got hit by terrorists or we’d not know of him. So what are we left with. Can I vote for Reagan?
I don’t think I would use the word “lucky” in describing Rudy’s actions on 9/11. Some people rise to the occasion or the circumstances they find themselves in and some sink. Rudy rose along with many other New Yorkers and Americans.
It has to be the “Fair”Tax. Both of them support that.
Are graceful exits that morally cheap?
We have truly become a nation of dumbed down sheep.
Hilarious really. Maybe you Hunter folks should re-evaluate your position on Huckabee rather than deciding that you were wrong about Hunter.
This poor judgment will certainly destroy any future aspirations for the nomination.
At least where I am concerned.
You said it all. I hate to think of not voting, but I really believe that if enough voters sat it out, it might get through their thick heads that we won’t accept their RINOS as our representatives. Although, I have a feeling that there is nothing we can do now. That it is too late. Will the real Republican Party please stand up and listen to us? Not likely.
As a long time Arkansas resident, I am absolutely certain Huck can’t be trusted to keep the promises of his new-found “conversion” regarding the borders and illegal immigration. Yes, he begged Mexico for the consulate that is in Little Rock…and he rented them prime office space for $1.00/yr. Tyson’s, Walmart, Stephen’s Inc., etc.,rule here in Arkansas, and Huck, just like the current governor Mike Beebe, was firmly on the side of big bucks and corporate influence.
The only hope on this issue is now Mitt.
What a shame. Then again, Hunter who? No one knew about him then, and most don’t know about him now and don’t care whatever the frick he does.
It is a shame. I used to respect him.
OK. Conservatives are now stuck with determining the lesser of All evils, holding our noses and voting. Disgusting to put it mildly!
UN-BELIEVABLE
is this the Bizarro World primaries? Hunter has really screwed the pooch on this one. So much for my dream ticket of Romney/Hunter . . . .
All that tells me is that what Hunter claimed to stand for while on the campaign trail is not what he really intended to do.
Borrowed from a comment at HotAir
I could not have said it better.
Not voting at all is not going to send the signal you want. Rather, it will reinforce the GOP’s slide to the left as they chase the votes of those that still care enough to vote.
It would be better, if you believe the GOP beyond saving, to find another party to replace it with.
Duncan must have some previous or current personal animosity toward McCain or Romney. Who knows what insults may have been thrown behind closed doors. Maybe those two political camps were caught trying to dig up dirt on Duncan? Is Duncan currying favor for some future financial endeavor with Huck? (it ain’t political, since Huck will be out) Talk about political suicide with the Conservative base.
Hunter supporting GOMER?
Now I’m GLAD he was dumped out of the race if he is that foolish.
If Thompson endorses McCain or Huck or Giuliani, then the heads REALLY explode.
I’m so mad at all the candidates that I’m ready to start a draft Cheney movement.
Well, I’ll be… Never in a million yrs., would I have thought this was even possible. I must have slipped into a parallel universe.
Hunter endorsing Huckabee and attacking Romney!!!! Read the writing on the wall folks.
I’m honestly shocked.
I’m looking. From what I’m hearing, there is increasing discontent among conservatives about the direction the Republican Party is headed. I’m willing to work for the formation of a new party, or fight for change in the one we have, and maybe do both at the same time.
I do not believe it is in the best interests of our country for the GOP to continue its slide to the left. We already have one liberal party; we don’t need another one.
The feeling I have right now as a conservative is there is nowhere for me to go.
I hear you, backwoods. I’ve been struggling with whether the GOP is beyond saving since December, 2004. The problem is that we don’t have the 6 years that the Republicans did to take the carcass of the Whigs and turn itself into a viable national party.
I had hoped that one good thing would come out of the GOP collapse of 2006; either its renewal as a conservative party or its replacement by a conservative party. Sadly, that hasn’t happened, and the primary election results and ensuing whacked-out endorsements have made it clear that we don’t have the active numbers to do either.
I am so discouraged with the whole process. I have strongly supported Bush, until his slide into the Democratic party. I have watched Kay Bailey Hutchinson betray our state. Unless you live in Texas, you can’t imagine how bad it is. I believe that they are all liars and care about nothing but their political careers. ALL of them, Republicans and Democrats alike. It’s just a game for them. Friends, I think we are all forgoten the moment they assume power. I feel like a fool for believing any of them.
Was the Huckster serving Kool Aid on the campaign trail? Or, its the Invasion of the Body Snatchers all over again.
Read #74 above. I’m not defending his endorsement of Huckabee, but he has reasons why he doesn’t want to endorse Mitt.
Lucy, you got some ’splaining to do
Hunter got his VP deal. While I don’t think that Huckabee is a bad guy, I would have expected Hunter to endorse Romney who’s as close to conservative of the remaining candidates. The next think you know, Thompson will be endorsing McCain.
I think I can imagine that, twotips. Here in Wisconsin, the fact that we will continue to be a tax hell with no relief in sight can be at least somewhat-fairly laid on the head of one RINO, then-Senate Majority “Leader” Mary Panzer, who refused to bring the first version of TABOR for a vote in the Senate in 2004. That move was so egregious, she drew a primary challenger in 10 days (fortunately, she was also too stupid to wait until after the filing period had expired to table TABOR), and was ousted by a 80%-20% margin in the primary.
Of course, there are also a few other RINOs I have to keep on “thanking” for no significant action on the renamed Taxpayer Protection Amendment in the succeeding session of the Legislature (Dale Schultz and John Gard come immediately to mind), but even if there had been a consensus action then, the seizure of the State Senate by the ‘Rats in 2006 would have doomed the second consideration required to send the amendment to us voters for constitutional ratification.
As Michelle herself occasionally says, “You’ve got to keep up.”
Look this isn’t meant for you personally, but would everyone who thinks he would support Romney please Google “Romney+Bain+3Com”? Or Romney and Huawei Technology?
He should have probably endorsed no one, but he has reasons for not wanting Romney.
mngirl
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I don’t see anything here.
Romney was not involved in the 3Com deal, surely.
I did. What does this have to do with Romney? He no longer runs Bain.
He gets a reported $7-15 million a year from his stock in Bain. Some of that money came from selling 3Com to a Chinese company that helped build missile defense systems for Saddam and the Taliban. Not a problem? I can see someone’s judgement vis-a-vis China being influenced by $7 million dollars, but maybe he’s above all that.
Well, well, if it isn’t my old pal Flenser, who still hasn’t kept his promise to answer a question from 4 months ago after leading me down a merry road first.
For the record, everyone, the only one Flenser has supported while basing all the Republican front runners is Hillary Clinton, the other day when he said he’d vote for Hillary over McCain (McCain would be terrible, but who but a liberal shill would make such a remark?). Now there’s a real conservative for you, eh?
You’ve been bashing front runners for 6 months now, Flenser, so let me ask you this: for all the negative conservative bashing you’ve done here, just who do you support, Flenser?
Saw your previous reference to Tiger Song and found this report.
We apparently part of the technology to China before they sold it to Iraq!!
How many traitors do we have in this country??? LOTS!
From the report, one is Prof. John Lewis from my alma mater. In addition to Perry, Clinton, et al.
Thanks Fred, I hadn’t found that link. (You Stanford guys are good reseachers
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Yes, unfortunately many in this country put a buck ahead of national security. The 3Com equipment that is supposed to keep hackers out of our national defense computer networks could easily be modified by their new Chinese owners so that our defense secrets are relayed to China. Hunter asked Romney to use his influence to try and prevent that deal and Romney refused. And then Romney profited financially from the deal.
Forgetting Romney for just a second, how is this stuff getting past our supposed WOT-oriented administration??
What the hell is going on here??
Alohaguy:
I’m with you on the whole Huawei deal looking ugly. But I think you are placing blame on the wrong head. Where is the DoD, the Commerce Secretary and the appropriate committees in Congress, as well as individual Congress(wo)men, the President? Whomever is the appropriate watchdog group.
How do you know that Duncan Hunter doesn’t have a good portion of his government pension fund invested in a mutual fund that owns stock in 3Com? Should the media have gone to him to ask for a statement on the Bain deal? Or isn’t invested in mutual funds that own stock in companies that do business with Huawei? Gasp! Shock? Horror! Oh no, what will we do? Shall we fire all of Congress? (well, yes, but that’s another topic)
Do we look at the investors, or do we look to the Government to DO THEIR (insert expletive) JOB, and not allow our technology to be given away like it was during the Clinton years?
This deal is a tiny component of what generates Romney’s income from Bain and he doesn’t have decision making authority over Bain’s decisions. Its not Romney’s job to make the people in Washington DO THEIR JOB.
Welcome to the Twilight Zone.
Things are NOT looking up for the general election. Unfortunately, unlike the lefties, we have nowhere to go while they mess up the country for the next 4 years.
It reminds me of The Matrix. Are most people so content with government handouts that they’ll stay in their little cocoons and live in a virtual world while the few free and brave battle for the freedom to live their own lives?
I didn’t want much from a candidate, just the desire to win against our enemies, a secure border, and government hands OUT of my pocket.
Even my parent are pessimistic about the future for their grandchildren, and they’ve seen quite a few presidents come and go.
AlohaGuy you are so full of crap! You did all that research but very conveniently leave out that Romney’s interest in Bain is held in a blind trust. He has no influence and in fact if he were to have tried to influence the deal that would have been illegal. You also very conveniently forget to mention that the U.S. government approved the deal. Go blow smoke up someone else’s rearend buddy.
I guess that I really am concerned about “settling” for the closest thing to a conservative with my vote. I think that is just what they want us sheep to do. They (GOP) know they have us over a barrel. Either stay home or vote for next best. We deserve better than that. Why don’t we have anyone to vote for that REALLY represents us? Maybe a “conservative” party will evolve from this mess were in. I sure hope it happens before we lose all of our voting power to the hispanics. We are there now in Texas.
Hmmmm? Smells of a possible appointment to me.
Nothing else makes sense, considering how diametrically opposed they seemed to be on issues.
I’ll be meeting with Hunter this Friday at an event in the Palm Beach area. I’ll be asking him some hard questions, you can count on that. And if you have any questions you’d like me to ask him, leave me a comment at The Radio Patriot. I’ll have his ear. You can bet I’ll be chewing on it.
Just last week in a radio interview with Col. Buzz Patterson, he told me he thinks Duncan Hunter “hangs the moon”. I contacted Buzz just now to get his reaction to Hunter’s endorsement of Huckabee…
Remember when we all though Tancredo was insane for endorsing Mitt? Well this takes the cake. In fact, this makes Tancredo look like a man on a mountain.
Blind as in “See no evil?” Sorry to dis your boy, but I’m interested in what all the candidates are about. Yes, the government approved the deal, and no, I don’t think they should have.
And yes, I think his financial interests might influence his decisions.
And no, I’m not blowing smoke up your butt, I’m stating my case, and providing links and Google suggestions so that everyone can look and decide for themselves.
If you are a conservative - you’re here are on this blog - please explain to me why we should be selling our defense technology to China, and how that is part of the conservative agenda.
Your boy also believes in mandatory health care, and please explain how mandatory government anything is part of the conservative agenda.
Well the circuit breakers in my little pointed brain need to be reset now. All that keeps going through my mind is “Whiskey Tango Foxtrot” over and over. My wife keeps saying “what the hell!”
We are really disgusted and rapidly approaching down right pissed!
And no, I’m not trying to hijack the thread. I’m puzzled over Hunter’s endorsement too, but understand why he didn’t give it to Romney.
I like that. But, why limit it to just 2008? It rings so true most election years.
And Hunter knew or should have known this when he attempted to get Romney to commit an illegal act. Does not say much about Hunter’s ethics. And perhaps that explains Hunter’s attraction to Huckabee.
AlohaGuy - Lets put your smear tactics to bed.
From the WSJ: the part of 3Com that does business with the U.S. government is called TippingPoint Technologies. It is a maker of network security gear 3Com picked up in a roughly $400 million deal in 2005. Before it agreed to be bought by the Bain crowd, 3Com indicated it would split off TippingPoint in an initial public offering.
A person familiar with the matter said that after 3Com shareholders vote on the LBO, likely in January, a formal process to sell TippingPoint or conduct an IPO will begin, and that should go a long way toward calming any national-security fears.
End of story? Romney’s interest in Bain is in a blind trust and he has nothing to do with it. The deal must still be approved by the treasury and us intelligence.
Smear tactics?
Guess that you haven’t read my previous comments. Just expressing my grief at the choice of remaining GOP candidates. As a matter of fact, I did support Tancredo, then Thompson. I don’t believe that I can trust any of the remaining candidates. That’s all. I must be way out in Right Field.
I am sickened by Hunter’s endorsement of The Huckster. This surely points to not taking endorsements seriously. We think we know these candidates, but yet we don’t. I’m convinced there are deals, side-deals, and promises for later reward we’d not ever condone. I’ve worked on committees and knew that some of the people running the show had secrets or something they were just not going to share with us lowly ones. The next person I hear claim to have any legacy to Ronald Reagan, I’ll personally throw up in his rubber chicken dinner! Wake me when this madness is over. Honesty is a lame duck in these times.
When you claim to have done the research and post partial facts thats a smear. When you say Romney “personally profited from investments that involved selling a maker of national defense technology to a Chinese company that supported Saddam and the Taliban.” that is an outright lie.
Here is the link mentioned in my earlier post: http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2007/12/03/some-soothing-words-for-3com-arbs/
You are a fool to think you could come to a site like MM and put one over on the smart well informed people here.
(Yeah, partial quote.)
Who said that? Romney when he was attacking Kennedy. Romney can tell his trustee to stay away from investments in China, since as President he might have to make some very tough decisions on China.
Since no one has said it yet…
Duncabee!
I was a Hunter supporter as well. While I don’t agree with the endorsement, I can see a little logic behind what may be for him as it is like the rest of us, a decision based on the least of all evils.
Where Hunter says “character” I read it to mean social issues, a place he and Huckabee have quite a bit in common. And regardless of the facts in the case, the Bain Capital/3Com deal seems to be a major stumbling block between Duncan Hunter and Mitt Romney on a personal level.
Just because Hunter may have went against type in his endorsement doesn’t mean his positions on other issues or those things he works for in Congress aren’t valid. I’m not throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Judging by this reaction though, if Fred Thompson endorses John McCain (as he did in 2000) we may have full-scale mutiny on our hands.
Michael Swartz
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