John McCain: The Geraldo Rivera Republican
Update: What Arizona Republicans think of John McCain: “Arizona Senator John McCain may be doing well in national polls but the folks back home that know him best don’t seem to agree. According to a straw poll taken on Saturday, January 19 of 721 Republican Precinct Committeemen from Maricopa County, Arizona, McCain’s home county, at their annual county meeting, 59.2% found him unacceptable for the GOP presidential nomination and only 11% find him acceptable.”
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After spearheading a disastrous, security-undermining illegal alien amnesty bill last year with Teddy Kennedy, “straight-talking” GOP Sen. John McCain claims he has seen the light. In TV appearances, he vows to put immigration enforcement first. On the campaign trail, he offers a perfunctory promise to strengthen border security and emphasizes the need to restore Americans’ trust in their government’s ability to defend the homeland.
“I got the message,” he told voters in South Carolina. “We will secure the borders first.”
But how can McCain cure citizens’ distrust when his own credibility on the issue remains fatally damaged? He doesn’t believe his own election-year spin. And he knows we know it. This is cynicism on steroids with a speedball chaser.
Not all of us have forgotten how the short-fused Arizona senator cursed good-faith opponents in his own party (“F**k you!” and “Chickensh*t” were the choice words he had for Texas GOP Sen. John Cornyn during a spat over enforcement provisions). Not all of us have forgotten that he voted against barring felons from receiving amnesty benefits under his plan. Not all of us have forgotten the underhanded, debate-sabotaging manner in which McCain/Kennedy/Graham/Harry Reid conspired to ram their package down voters’ throats.
His admission of the shamnesty failure is grudging and bitter. While he now tells conservative voters what they want to hear about the need to build the southern border fence, he takes a contemptuous tone toward physical barriers when talking to businessmen. “By the way, I think the fence is least effective,” he told executives in Milwaukee, according to a recent Vanity Fair profile. “But I’ll build the goddamned fence if they want it.” Straight talk? Try hate talk.
For all his supposed, newfound enlightenment about what most Americans want—protection against invasion, commitment to the rule of law, meaningful employer sanctions, an end to sanctuary cities, enforcement-by-attrition plus deportation reform, and an end to special illegal alien benefits that invite more law-breaking–The Maverick remains a Geraldo Rivera Republican. Like the ethnocentric cable TV host who can’t string a sentence about immigration together without drowning in emotional demagoguery, McCain naturally resorts to open-borders platitudes when pressed for enforcement specifics.
Instead of emphasizing the need for local and state cooperation with federal immigration authorities to prevent the release of illegal alien criminals or discussing 100 percent preventable crimes by illegal alien thugs who should never have been on American soil in the first place, McCain harps on open-borders sob stories. Several times over the past year, in response to citizen questioners who have expressed frustration with the lack of accountability for immigration law-breakers, McCain has responded: “I am not going to call up a soldier and tell him I am deporting his mother… I’m not going to do it. You can do it.”
But what if that mother had stolen an American citizen’s Social Security number to work here illegally? What if she had been previously deported, re-entered illegally, and had been convicted of previous crimes? What if she were part of a human smuggling ring? What if she had been working in a sensitive area—airport security, a military base, a port? Would he still refuse to abide by his constitutional obligation to provide for the common defense and secure the blessings of liberty for law-abiding Americans?
If McCain refuses to enforce immigration law against illegal alien parents of soldiers, what about illegal alien soldiers who used stolen or fake identification to get into the military? And why only illegal alien parents of soldiers? Why not illegal alien parents of police officers, teachers, doctors, and store owners? McCain’s selective enforcement policy is the exact recipe for immigration anarchy that we have today.
The hothead has succeeded in intimidating voters and eluding tough questions from the press by playing his rhetorical violin. There is a reason so many liberals in the media and the Democrat Party want John McCain to be the GOP presidential nominee. He gives them cover to continue smearing grass-roots conservatives.
In Michigan, the illegal alien parent-of-a-soldier-story was met with boos. McCain’s cheerleaders at the New York Times and other press outlets attempted to depict the detractors as insensitive and racist boors. Just as they did during last year’s ill-fated shamnesty campaign.
McCain has learned nothing. What about us?
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I personally don’t need anymore reasons to NOT vote for McCaint. Him being our nominee would insult our intelligence…
I don’t trust John McCain. Ann Coulter had it right, he voted against Republicans on almost every major domestic and social issue bill. Watch out when the main stream media and Democrats speak in favor of John McCain. It should cause one to pause and ask why.
Looks like we’re down to Mitt Romney as the closest we’re going to get to a conservative candidate without supporting the loony fringe of Ron Paul. I’m not saying Mike Huckabee is not sincere in his beliefs but I just don’t think he’s the right man at the right time.
You nailed it, Michelle.
I have read that the South my go to McCain (or Huckabee). I hope some people on the fence read this today.
I voted for Mitt Romney yesterday in the Florida Primary for the reasons above. I don’t want McCain to be the nominee.
I don’t think McCain wants a vote from a bigot like me.
And when he says he’ll build the fence first, he still means that he’s planning amnesty second.
Being the bigoted nativist that I am I know John McCain doesn’t want my vote either.
Don’t worry Senator I’ll be glad to make that phone call. As a retired Senior Master Sergeant I have had to break worse news to my troops then that during my 25 years in the USAF.
All of us who were supporting Thompson need to petition him to support Romney…
As I’ve said before – I don’t care what a candidate says now – it’s what did they do before. What are their core values. Core values tell us about how they will act in the future – not only regarding issues that we know about today, but also give us insight into how they most likely will act with unforseen or future events or issues.
love the images you use for mustache and grumpy MM lol
i just wish someone would build the damn fence already…
As a potential POTUS he’s proclaiming secure borders first, but as a U.S. Senator how is he advocating to secure them ? At least put on an act, man.
McCain went from a great American POW to a lousy American POS who is obviously smoking Mexican POT
Indeed, if anything this is one aspect of the illegal invasion that directly affects all Americans, since we all have Social Security numbers.
In order to work illegally – unless the employer doesn’t care – they must not only break our laws to come here but also add identity theft to their rap sheets.
I’m surprised the candidates aren’t making more of this due to the sheer number of Americans it adversely impacts – if not just as a matter of law enforcement.
But the closest we get with someone who’s serious on this – with what we have left in the race – is Romney. Hope he has the sense and good advisors working to bring out the issue.
Yup, it’s pretty common thing for a man to be sincere and still be sincerely wrong.
Michelle … great story … I think you should put a caption under those photos …
Grumpy Old Men 3
McCain sounds like a liberal jumping on the side of the perpatator of a crime instead of the innocent victim. I don’t see him upholding any laws he doesn’t think are fair. This man is not a responsible leader. No wonder Arizona wants to sue him for neglect.
I read that article in the NYT and had to laugh at this:
The senator turned to Ms. Fiorina at the town hall meeting in Warren to help him answer a question about why the sub-prime mortgage crisis seemed to catch the country by surprise.
“She’s a lot smarter than I am,” Mr. McCain said.
Very telling.
How tru it is!
McCain is your typical Johnny-come lately politician on the illegal immigration issue. I trust him about as far as I can throw him, which wouldn’t be far at all. How can he be the Republican Nominee for President when he worked with Ted Kennedy for cryin out loud! UGH just the thought of him being our Nominee gets my blood boiling. Are people that stupid in America?
Most people have said that illegal immigration is one of their top concerns during this election. If that’s true, then how the heck is McCain still a viable candidate? I don’t get it at all!
If McCain gets the nomination, I for one WILL NOT vote for him. I’d rather have a Dem in the White House to screw things up and then come back in 4 years and reclaim the Presidency.
not popular right now, but we need a candidate like George W. Bush–one upon whom we can project whatever we would like. He can play the conservative evangelical devoted to his faith and traditional values. He can be our protector and project American strength abroad. He can look out for interests of big business. None of the candidates this year had that kind of dexterity.
Of course, in reality it turned out he was none of those things. But it was a nice ride. We had fun believing.
Great post, Michelle.
I wonder where McCain is getting the money to fund his campaign. I know his wife is rich and all but who else is donating to his campaign?
The Donor list should make for some interesting reading given his anti-Republican voting record.
His record in the Senate is more importan than his war hero status.
Immigration policy is a multi-administration, dual-party failure. We must all come to the realization that it is impossible to send all the illegal immigrants that are heare back – there are simply too mnay. The southern border should be, for all intensive purposes, locked down. Then we all need to work together to absord the huge numbers of folks that are here already. Regardless of your p.o.v. on this issue, reality dictates that there are simply too many here already.
Havent you heard? it’s to late, the Dems and the lame brain, uninformed voters have spoken and already givin this thing to McCain. Super Tuesday and the rest of the states dont matter. Had you’re chance and blew it, now we get what we get. I’m disgusted with the entire process. Going to vote here on the 29th then I’m done with it all. Uncle.
Sob stories? You want sob stories Senator? How about all of the families of the victims of illegal alien crime, including the drunk driving “murders” of LEGAL American citizens. What if he had to tell that mother her son was killed while on leave by an illegal alien? Yeah, demogague that Senator.
Great post Michelle. Thanks for getting my blood flowing faster. This voter will not be casting a ballet, local, state or federal, for anyone who does not follow the law.
make that the 5th….
I want to know, is there some other former POW to vote for as I am tired of this one?
timbudd, you are WRONG ! All we need to do is enforce our employment laws, and pass a constitutional amendment to prevent children of illegals from automatically being citizens. If there are no jobs for illegals, most of them will go home. Allowing children of illegals born in the US to be citizens is utter nonsense. This practice is not followed in the rest of the western world.
# 22 So let me see …we can send men to the moon, but we can’t put 12 million law breakers on a bus and send them home HUMMMMMMMM…
If you have listened to him in the debates, then only thing he has really changed his mind about is deporting the “criminals” – and he really sound wishy washy on that. He still is saying that we have to treat the others here illegally with “dignity and respect” Translation: He ain’t gonna do a damn thing about it! No wonder the MSM and all the democratic candidates are coronating him as the inevitable GOP nomination.
Romney/Thompson is my ideal ticket.
Question for McCain:
Your views on Amnesty for Illegals are well known. As President, what is the next law you intend to ignore?
When you take the oath to defend the Constitution and uphold the laws of the US, what will that mean, really?
I’m guessing that if McGeraldo doesn’t get the nomination he might just look for a VP spot with the Dems.
Billary/McGeraldo 4 President
-Open boarders for all!
I will readily agree with you on the first part of your statement … and that goes all the way back to the first time they tried back in the 60’s …
As for the second part of your statement …
I guess you haven’t been paying attention to what is going on in Oklahoma and Arizona … illegals are leaving those states in droves because of new laws that are being enforced to prevent them from having jobs (the main reason MOST of them come here), housing, and other public services …
We don’t have to formally deport all of them … a large number will leave on their own when laws are passed and then enforced … that number will mainly be comprised of those that really are here for jobs …
We need more states to get on board and follow the lead of OK and AZ by passing similar laws and enforcing them …
We need to end sanctuary cities to further aid in that effort …
We need to ensure that any illegals committing crimes are not released and instead are held without bail, tried, convicted and deported …
We need to ensure that our Border Agents are supported in their efforts and not made into criminals by publicity-seeking DA’s …
We need to control who enters our country for all our sakes …
It doesn’t count if you take the oath with your hand on the Spanish/English dictionary!
Its called self-deportation. Take away their incentive to be here and make it damn near impossible to live here, and they will leave on their own.
tgillian
I suspect if that happened he would have his fingers crossed when he took the oath of office …
Its a good thing we don’t have 12million illegal Iraqis here or McCain would surrender to them just like he did to Mexico.
Well if he’s the nominee hate to say it but noway am i toeing the party line i’ll be at home drinking heavily. We deserve whatever it is that we get, if he’s the last man standing. oh go ahead and throw Huck’s ass in this category for me as well, really sick of this im kind of a republican candiate
A classic case of a decision not between Good and Bad, but Bad and Worse.
McCain’s got a lot of baggage when it comes to the conservative base, that’s for sure. But in the end, it all comes down to one simple question: Who will keep the donkeys out of the White House?
I haven’t been following the polls closely, but when I have seen them they indicate that only one Republican has a realistic shot at that.
The next administration will appoint Justices to the Supreme Court. It will make critical, perhaps decisive decisions about our involvement in the Middle East and elsewhere. It will be responsible for the well-being of our soldiers and the missions they are called upon to perform. The list goes on — and the bottom line is, the person making the decisions better not be a Democrat, and especially not Hillary.
I got frustrated with the Republicans in 1992, and voted for Perot. I still feel dirty for my little part in helping Bill Clinton worm his way into the Oval Office.
If McCain’s the nominee, I’ll hold my nose and vote for him. I won’t pout and take my ball and go home, or cast some equally futile and stupid “protest” vote again, because the nominee isn’t a clone of Reagan.
I’ll just apply Michelle’s “Suck It Up” philosophy to another context, that’s all. For Hillary cannot rule this country. Must not rule.
Great post, Michelle. It seems like McCain wanted the feather in his cap for the election of saying he spearheaded immigration reform more than actually doing it correctly.
Latest Dem Debate –
I noticed (again) that the questioners in the latest CNN Democratic debate assiduously avoided any discussion of the Illegal Immigration issue (except for one small question and fleeting answers during Health Care questioning).
Also absent was any question and answer regarding National Security other than, once again, which Dem would withdraw from Iraq the fastest.
This Hunter, then Thompson guy is now going for Mitt. At least he knows something about competitiveness, technology and downsizing. We know what McCain is against, seemingly, but what is McCain for? Seems he’s for promoting himself and perpetuating his Washington “friendships” and network and comity with everyone but those in his own party.
If he’s the nominee, I don’t know if I can bring myself to hold my nose, even given the Dem/Socialist opposition. I could only approach the voting booth staggering and sickened.
I totally agree!
Guess it’s impossible to round up and capture every murderer running free in society but you don’t stop enforcing the law. You capture those that you can.
Deterring murder is probably more elusive than removing the incentives that bring illegals here in the first place – free education; free medical care; work; and all the other social services the die hard liberals and the ACLU say are their inalienable rights.
Border enforcement and prosecuting companies that hire illegals will work too.
One incentive that can be eliminated or at least curtailed that I hear very little about is putting the squeeze to the Mexican government who encourages their citizens to illegally cross the border. This alleviates the necessity for the Mexican government to take responsility for their own citizens – they just reap the benefits of unfettered cash flow back to their country from the illegals in the U.S. and solves their healthcare problem too.
Exactly. What’s to say he won’t change again if elected? Change can happen more than once, if indeed he has really changed at all. Frankly, I just don’t believe the guy.
I’ll still vote for him if he gets the nomination, and I’ll probably vote for him in my state’s Super Tuesday primary.
Sorry. Even though every blog I read every day practically froths at the mouth about illegal immigration, I just can’t get that worked up about it.
Can the MSM just please STOP saying this guy is the frontrunner? PLEASE?
McCan’t is a flat out liberal.
I read this morning that the wall between Gaza and Egypt was overrun. Mubarak told his troops to let them eat,buy food and then escort them back over the border. The border fence will be re-built to keep the Palestinians from flooding into Egypt from Gaza. Re-build the fence to keep their brothers out? What a concept!!
playblu,#44
Where do you live?
He will never get my vote that is for sure.
I.Will.Never.Vote.For.McCain.
Wait until something personal happens to you ‘playblu’, that was an illegal’s responsibility. Unfortunately, that is how most apathetic, non-interested people react.
I have been affected by these illegals. I have a wife I brought here from the Philippines. We did all the work. Sorry ‘playblu’ but these anti-Americans need to go home and try returning under our laws.
To state again, I will NEVER vote for this guy, McCain. Like many others, I would rather have 4 years of Jimmy Carter n a pant suit and then a conservative than deal with McCain. As to judges, he will appoint liberal judges, people. What makes anyone think he will do otherwise based on his record of blocking almost every one of Bush’s real conservative Judges. If Kennedy says no, he will have to say no too. And he is NO GOOD on terrorism either. Just because he supports Iraq you simply cannot ignore his stances for terrorist being given constitutional rights. This man is pathetic and I could never support him. Let the dems get the blame for the next 4 years and let the current GOP die and hopefully come back as it used to be. Otherwise, I will leave the GOP.
McCain is the only potential Presidential nominee who scares the heck out of me. He is a loose cannon within the party and his only claim to the nomination is based on his military credentials and ex-POW status. He is not a social conservative, economic conservative, small government conservatives, or even a traditional conservative in the Reagan mold. He is best described as a RINO but even that is too right of center for a man who has pushed bills to restrict freedom of speech and protection of the border. My hope now is that Romney surges because of his successes in business and government. He is probably the only person in the entire campaign, both sides, who even has a chance at solving the welfare mess. Personally, I like Huckabee but just don’t see the nation electing another Arkansas governor – and the MSM will be ruthless in exposing his supposedly “extreme” Christian underpinnings while, at the same time, staying silent on Obama. I like Rudi but he is a social liberal – and that doesn’t fly in the South. Also, social liberalism is synonymous with moral decay and we need to put some morality back into our society.
I like that “RealImmigrantChick.”
What makes you think we can send a man to the moon? It hasn’t been done in decades.
I wonder if playblu is actually from the blu party? Why are dems and independents allowed to vote in our primary? Why should dems and wishy washy independents (and I don’t mean conservatives calling themselves independents after the shamnesty mess) be allowed to pick McCain for us? Immigration will be the #1 or close #2 issue in 2008. Put McCain on the ticket, you take that issue away from the GOP and then you elect a dem for sure. 80% of AMericans were against the shamnesty bill. That includes a lot of dems.
I just love the people who say (#22), “There are just too many here to actually send back. WRONG!!!! We, (or at least myself), are American. That means we can do anything……because we have freedom and ‘laws’ that people desire. Attrition is one damn good way to let these people return. Follow the laws on the books (employers), and you will see a siginificant decrease. Throw all the shitheads in jail without parole that break our laws. Condemn the Mexican government and their lack of will to protect their borders. Put the drug cartels out of business once and for all.
Insult of the MONTH:
The Geraldo Rivera Republican
nothing could be worse, for a republican.
What a well written piece by MM.It is spot on about the amnesty man.Now if folks around the country will only see the light.I think it’s quite interesting that McCain can’t even win Republican Precinct committeemen in his own state.Really it tells you all you need to know.Now if this happened in a county in Massachusettes to Mitt Romney the MSM would have been all over it.They love McCain at least until the general election.
You’re correct. However, McCant might actually consider it a complement. However, he isn’t a Republican, really.
Border security is not possible, which is why pro-illegals like McCain emphasize it.
We have 32,000 km of border and coastline, and unless a border is militarized, i.e., with a free fire zone, there is no reason for illegals to discontinue going over, around, under, and through any fences, tearing down fences, boating up the coast, or whatnot. There are too many of them for any real prosecution and incarceration.
Security has to be internal, which means punishing corrupt businessmen who hire illegals (which seems to be off the table), ending the anchor baby program (which seems to be off the table), and ending the corruption in Washington that is responsible for illegal infiltration (definitely off the table), so look for more of the same.
OMG, Carly Fiorina is campaigning for McCain? He’s dumber than I thought! She was fired from Hewlett Packard, if she is later put into a cabinet position in a McCain administration there will be a public outcry.
Contrast this with Romney, who has Meg Whitman, current CEO of eBay as one of his Finance Chairs. They worked together at Bain Consulting years ago. An article yesterday in the WSJ talked about her pending retirement, she’s been at eBay for 10 years (she’s only 51) and she is of the opinion that no CEO should stay longer than 10 years (i.e. term limiting herself). Although I’ve not seen it published anywhere, my guess is this retirement will free her up to campaign for Romney in a General Election in a much bigger way (I’m sure most eBay employees don’t lean “red”, making it difficult for her to campaign openly while still CEO). She’s done great things with eBay, it would be great to see Meg Whitman in a Cabinet position in a Romney Administration.
I really, really hate those kind of statements. Here’s what is being said, “Yes, we have been invaded by millions, and there is nothing we can do about it.” How ridiculous can you get? It’s as if they are saying, “because every single person of the 30 million or so illegals cannot be sent home, then our only option is to send none of them home.” This is an open-border supporters dream. As has been said a zillion times, and recently proven in several states, if we enforce the immigration laws we have up to now refused to enforce, millions will self-deport. As for the rest, they are here in violation ot the law, the penalty for that is deportation….deport them.
Look at “all” the republicans running…. Now that Fred dropped out, every single one is a rino.
None of them are going to look out for the best interests of the people, or the country. Watch for Romney to renege on his stance on illegal immigration, if he’s elected. Holy smokes! He was using illegals to mow his lawn just a couple months ago!!!
Also, Romney is a gun control nut, and ran one of the most socialist states in the union. His stance on health care is almost exactly the same as hillary. In fact, he implemented hillary’s health care plan in Massachusetts.
Giuliani? Huckabee? Gag me with a liberal, socialist spoon!!
John McCain, sure isn’t my first choice…. by a long way! I despise his illegal immigration policies.
However, given what’s left on the republican side, as a Veteran, and a Vietnam Veteran, I have the deepest regard for for my Brother Vietnam Veteran, John McCain, who endured 6 years being tortured in the Hanoi Hilton, and refused to be treated better because he was the son of the Admiral who was CINCPAC at the time.
The guy at one time in his life had honor, courage, and integrity! That does not completely disappear in a man. Even if he has been smoozing with slimy democrats, and republicans in D.C. for the past few decades.
The one thing I can trust John McCain to be is a solid Commander In Chief. He grew up with the military. He is a bonafide combat Veteran, and POW. He has never backed away from his support of the military. I don’t think any of the others in the race, on ether side, have even served. For that reason, I can support McCain, and would vote for him in a general election.
I also think he can be trusted to protect my gun rights.
Ok, there you go… A positive voice for McCain… Now rip me to shreds
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I actually did learn something from McCain…NEVER to vote for him!
Radio Relay,
You are not alone. Let those who say that if they cannot get their ideal conservative clone into office, they will stay home, to ask themselves WWHD (What Would Hillary Do)? I say that if you do not back the Republican nominee (including McCain) and Hillary gets elected, you have forfeited your right to EVER complain about what POTUS Hillary does.
#44 playblu, you will care when the numbers and noxious attitude reach your state. Pray that it’s not too late by then to correct the damage.
One of the common statements I keep seeing about not being happy with the options left on the conservative side has been
“I’d rather let the Dems in for 4 years and then get the White House back”
I can guarantee every one of you that is thinking that way that if they get the Hildebeast (and her surrogate President Billy Boy) into the WH it will be for 8 years … not 4 …
Then be watching out because they will already be working to get Chelsea into the Congress somewhere to prepare her for their next family assault on our country … or whatever will be left of it by then …
I, for one, will not sit back quietly and abdicate the White House to the Clinton Mafia and their cohorts …
Your Lead Story ” John McCain : The Geraldo Rivera Republican ” was BRILLIANT . It’s Time the real John McCain was brought to the table .
TARAQUE
I find it utterly amazing that McCain is number 1 in the polls. How can that be? He is basically a democrat. He can wink all he wants and I don’t trust him.
When he says he “heard the people”, that is so obviously a line. Why it’s not obvious to others and why so many are voting for him is insane.
I am from Arizona, my husband and myself wrote him on some issues and never heard a word back, where Senator Kyle had the time for us. I can’t stand the thought of McCain as President. It’s illogical that others would.
Okay Radio Relay, time for some facts, you are spewing out opinion and trying to dress it up as fact:
Romney governed conservatively on the topic of Illegal Immigration while Governor of Massachusetts, why do you think Tom Tancredo endorsed him? Tom didn’t do it just based on Romney’s word, he actually looked at his record as Governor and he used that to base his endorsement on.
As for Illegals mowing his lawn, he tried to stop it once, the contractor told him he would use no illegals, the contractor lied, and he got fired. Are you a proponent of having citizens go up to every lawn mower and ask them for ID to prove their in the country legally? If you are, I think the ACLU wants to have a chat with you.
By the way, how much are you getting paid by the McCain campaign?
Ah yes, the sympathy play, we’re all familiar with it. I also think John McCain is a National Hero, but something happened to him when he got back and some of that integrity has been lost. Like when he got back and settled into civilian life and had an affair with his current (much younger) wife and dumped his first wife with whom he had 3 kids (two adopted). Now clearly his first wife doesn’t hold it against him now, because she speaks highly of him and he openly admits he made some mistakes, but “integrity”? Not in my book. Lying to us right now about his real intent on Illegal Immigration – leading us to believe he heard the American people when we shut down the Capitol Hill switchboard in opposition to McCain Kennedy when in fact, if elected, all the same provisions of McCain /Kennedy would be back on the table.
He’s taken so many positions on Illegal Immigration depending who he’s courting its hard to keep track. Don’t get me started on his twisting and turning on not voting in favor of Tax Cuts. The one consistency, McCain can’t be trusted.
While some of you may hate (not to strong a word) McCain over immigration, what do you think of his positions on the OTHER issues like, national defense, taxes, government spending, gun rights, right to life, judicial appointments, health care, defense of marriage, affirmative rights/reverse discrimination, and government regulation (think “global warming”)? You want Hillary making the call on immigration and the OTHER issues?
Walls can evoke either a negative (Berlin) or a positive (China) connotation- They by themselves are neutral. Last time I checked, people are risking death to get here, not being held against their will so can we please put that intellectually weal arguement to bed? A wall intended to protect America is a HUGE positive IMO and the people (majority) have asked for it. Case closed- build the damned thing.
I will not support McCain. If that is my only option then I will defer. I will not vote for him just to beat someone worse. That line of reasoning leads to rewarding bad behavior. The whole point of a multi-party system is to reward GOOD behavior. If the GOP understands this, they will give us a better candidate, either now or in 2012. (Tough Love) He is not a conservative- at least not in the way I understand the definition.
Funny, this weekend there was a special on the UFC that showed McCain calling for its disbanding. What a wuss. That along with a weak stomach on waterboarding. Not who I would want in power during a terrorist attack or time of war (in other words, now).
(for frame of reference, I am a 20 year Marine Veteran)
I guess the people who would vote for McCain would vote for Ted K allso .not me.
The naked hate on this site (and Michelle’s transparent demagoguery) for Sen. McCain is kind of funny to me. I’m a big admirer of the late, great President Reagan, and I’m assuming that he is a hero to many of you on this board. How quickly we forget, however, that he presided over a massive amnesty program for illegal aliens and never really took any meaningful steps towards securing our borders. He also increased the national budget many fold and left office with a huge budget deficit. He also “cut and ran” from Lebanon after the Marine barracks attack. McCain is NOT a liberal. He certainly is not a right wing ideologue, but he’s nobody’s liberal. He is a mainstream conservative who appeals to many of us traditional conservatives, as well as those in the middle of the political spectrum. In other words, McCain is electable.
The MSM’s support of McCain is a huge red flag that warrants attention. They are lauding his candicacy and supporting him because either Democratic candidate will easily defeat him.
As for his epiphany on immigration, I do not believe it for a second. He may grudgingly build the “damn fence”, but his mantra of “compassion” will assure that most of the illegals in the US stay in the US.
He is using the illegal mother of the soldier as the wedge to jam open the door. We cannot afford McCain’s compassion.
As to the mother of the soldier, she broke the law. Should we excuse all relatives of soldiers from their commission of crimes? Will he grant pardons to those relatives of soldiers who commit murder, rape, robbery and other felonious acts as part of his “compassion” agenda?
We have the rule of law in the US which provides us the freedom and security to live our lives. Once you start making exceptions in the name of compassion, you open the door to a gradual deteroriation in society in general. McCain’s view is simply the “he had a bad childhood” defense to a murder charge, dusted off to fit illegal aliens.
McCain has not taken any action in his years in Congress to ENFORCE laws already on the books dealing with illegal aliens. He has, at just about every opportunity, attempted to change those laws to provide what amounts to Congressional pardons for a select class of law breakers. And now he is trotting out the need for “compassion” in dealing with the issues at hand.
McCain will not change his stripes. And while he insists that he “got the message” on illegal aliens, he may have heard it, but he will ignore it if he is elected President.
As a 25 year soldier and combat veteran, I would proudly salute Commander-in-Chief McCain. The other Republican candidates don’t do much for me on that score (not even Rudy “blah, blah, blah, 9-11, blah, blah blah 9-11” Guiliani). As for the democraps, what a nightmare scenario. While I disagree with him over water boarding (I would also include a cattle prod inserted up their jihadist *ss), given his personal experience, I’ll give him a pass on that.
BTW I would not vote for Teddy even for driving and diving instructor
On January 23rd, 2008 at 11:36 am, dakine said:In other words, McCain is electable.
Not by me. And from what I am reading here not by many other conservatives either. Bottom line: he is devisive and can only guarantee a Democratic victory.
It would be very instructive to both parties if a president was elected outside of either party through write-in ballots. Any nominations?
If they were capable of getting here, they are certainly capable of going back, especially with a little help from the US.
I’m not inclined to give McCain (or anyone, for that matter) carte blanche because he was a POW at one time, Charlie.
Don’t get hung up on Social Security. Some of you obviously don’t live within blocks of pickup sites for illegal alien day laborers. If you think they pay any income, FICA, or disability taxes, I have a bridge in Brooklyn …
I am a former precinct committeeman in Pima County AZ and I share the opinion of the majority of the Maricopa County precinct committeemen. John McCain cannot be trusted. He is not a conservative, but, even if he was, he does not have the temperament to be the most powerful man in the world. McCain has a world class temper and lets that temper go all too often.
Insulting opponents and behaving like an adolescent in public may get you labelled a “Maverick” by the liberal media types, but it’s not going to fly on the international stage. We don’t need the American version of Hugo Chavez.
John McCain’s views on illegal immigration, health care, and freedom of speech make him the ideal KOSkid’s candidate, not the conservative Republican’s candidate. If he is the nominee, I will do something I have never done in my life, stay home on election day.
SpeakEasy, with all due respect, by and large the folks who post here represent the “far right”. Presidential elections in this country are won by capturing the clear majority in this country who are in the middle of the political spectrum.
He was tortured as a POW, so he is disinclined to torture (by his standards, not mine) – that’s not carte blanche. I would still expect effective interrogation to occur. Will Hillary approve water boarding?
mngirl I’m not “spewing“, or “dressing up” anything… lets keep the discussion civil.
You neglected to even mention Romney forcing hilary’s health care on the state. Which he dreamed up, and he pushed through. IMHO Not very “conservative”.
And it is not a “sympathy play“!!
I don’t expect you to understand. (That’s not a criticism. Like most things in life, unless you been there, then it’s all conjecture.) At this point, I support McCain, because he is a strong supporter of the military, and because he understands the military. I’m a Veteran, it influences my opinions. Perhaps you are not. That’s fine. Do not belittle my opinion, by saying it’s a “sympathy play”. I do not sympathize with McCain, I respect him.
McCain has been through the crucible! Where have the rest been?!?
I don’t trust Romney!! He’s too damned slick! If he has the backing of the power brokers in the republican party, then he will reverse himself on illegal immigration… count on it!
dakine is trolling for insults again.
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It’s not impossible at all. The answer is three-fold: Deport the ones we catch, eliminate the jobs magnet for the ones that we don’t, and finally –
ELIMINATE the ability to wire money out of the country, unless you have either US citizenship or proper documentation to be here.
I agree, with (well over) 12 million here, it’s a big job. The sooner we seriously get started though, the sooner the problem will be fixed.
McCan’t is worthless. Great post Michelle!
McVain will always be an unlimited source of adhominem. My favorite is him being the poster boy of photo-ops. I would very much like to see him SwiftBoated as a may be may be not hero. All his metals for valor do not pass the smell test nor regulations. It seems he is the only witness to his valor rather than the usual screening and confirmation procedures.
This is true – he pushed benefits and amnesty for illegals (including violent criminals) harder than anyone!
Fighting the McCain-Kennedy Giveaway-America Bonanza?
Really MTNEER? That’s all you got? Here’s an idea. Try responding to my substantive points if this topic interests you. Otherwise, you’re the guy doing the “trolling”.
bit_boy, you should be ashamed of yourself. What have you done in your life that gives you the right to level such an unsubstantiated charge against Sen. McCain. Challenge his positions on the issues and his record in the Senate, but keep the disgusting personal attacks to yourself.
Well said … I would encourage all of you the next time you are near a Western Union location to go and read the current regulations …
I recently discovered that here in AZ if someone wants to wire money to a US CITIZEN in AZ there is a $450.00 limit on the amount that can be received … and there are several layers of ID required to send or receive funds …
For a non-US resident there is no limit imposed to send or receive within or outside of the US … there are minimal (at best) ID requirements for any transaction …
Now … someone want to tell me why as a US Citizen I am limited but the rest of the world is not …
I discovered the problem when someone that I had loaned money to for an emergency was trying to wire it back to me … needless to say this came to light because the amount involved was “Over the $450 Limit” … and yes … there were non-residents at both ends of the W.U. transaction that were sending thousands of dollars to Mexico and Central America and South America …
bit_boy #87: As you can see from my previous posts, I am not a John McCain fan. However, your attempt to smear his military service is disgusting. John McCain flew a light attack aircraft against ground targets in North Vietnam. At the time North Vietnam was the most heavily defended airspace in the whole world. There was no fakery involved.
If you wish to criticize Senator McCain, do so on the issues and facts, not cheap personal smears.
Let’s hope primary voters come to their senses, stat. A President McCain might be slightly better than Empress Hillary I or Barack Obama but not very much.
If it comes down to the Hildabeast or McVain, I will vote for the Hildabeast so the Libtards can take credit for destroying America for the next 4 years.
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You need to read my #67 … it won’t be 4 years … it will be 8 years …
What’s the saying? I believe it’s something like -
“A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality.”
Vidkun Quislingerr, Benedict Arnold was a war hero before he was not. Just because McCant was shot down and captured does not make him a hero. He also got medical care that no other POW received,and he still has not explained that to the other survivors. I will probably be called an apostate for calling his war record into account but he is using it to seek the office of the President. If we are going to elect a liberal they might just as well have a “D” after their name as they destroy this country. By their fruits you shall know them, and McCant’s are rotten to the core.Oh Michelle…you have outdone yourself, babe! Thanks SO MUCH for this smokein’ hot skinning of the snake McCain!
(Really glad you threw in a reminder of the “ram down” strategy with which he sought to carryout his legislative betrayal of America. It is one thing to make a really bad judgment; another thing to conspire with some of conservatism’s worst enemies to try to pull it off; but what is really UNFORGIVABLE and UNFORGETTABLE is the WAY he tried to do it, crafting his amnesty in secret and trying to ram it down without debate, amendments, or even time to read it. It shows a nasty, arrogant, and frighteningly totalitarian character. One does not accept convenient conversions to righteousness by someone who only months ago tried to mug, rob, and rape him. Especially when that person is a serial offender.)
In light of “all of the above”…it ain’t over until the fat lady sings. Ain’t heard her even clearing her throat yet. Quit heading for the lifeboats! The candidate “distillation process” continues, and will continue. The residue will be discarded. It ain’t time for panic. Stick by our guns. Man our posts. Stick by our standards. Voice them. Loudly. Keep hammering. Keep it up…watch…and wait…