Mother Jones hearts John McCain
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No surprise here. Liberals love other liberals.
Of course they do. He’s their best shot in the general.
MSNBC online has an article today about McCain and it simply glows about him.
This should be an intense red flag to every conservative who loves his country: when the MSM loves Republican, watch out, because the moment that Republican is nominated to represent Republicans they’ll relentlessly tear him to pieces. They did it with Dole. They do it with every weak Republican candidate who has a chance at the nomination (they used to love the equally weak Huckabee just a couple of weeks ago, remember, even though Huckabee and McCain really only have political weakness in common) The Clinton camp thought Ken Starr was an excellent choice to do the Whitewater investigation (when his name came up they really did say it), and once confirmed they savaged him knowing he didn’t have what it takes to fight back.
The pattern is playing out all over again.
This time will commentators and talk radio personalities finally spell out the left strategy so people can be forewarned? Or do we need to go through it all over again - this time, with genuinely disasterous results for our nation?
This is how the article starts out, flawed as usual.
I do not consider myself his fellow conservative. Just saying.
There is an argument going on about some conservatives staying home on Election Day. It revolves around Reagan, compromise and the 100% prefect candidate. Well I can tell you that Reagan was a 70 30 guy meaning if he could agree with someone 70% of the time he could work with you on the the other 30%. Here’s a good way to determine if the candidate, any candidate for any office is your kind of candidate. Make a list of the ten issues that concern you most, list the candidates across the top, and go down the issue list check marking each candidate if they are on the same page with you on each issue. Add em up, if the candidate doesn’t get 70% or more there is something wrong with them not you.
Snort, since when is McShame a conservative?
So they attack you because you state the obvious. Good job Michelle keep poking the hornets with a stick.
Snort, snort, snort, snort… Please make them stop before I hurt myself.
Post # 5,
Great post, but I’d admend it to include what that candidate has actually accomplished to determine if the candidate in question is on the same page with you. That’s not to say any Republican isn’t better than Hillary, and yes, everyone needs to do his patriotic duty and vote, but candidates do exaggerate and lie when the biggest prize in the world is up for grabs. I say addtionally list the evidence of their accomplishments.
For the record, I cannot think of a single one McCain has to his credit that qualifies him to be President.
We don’t fear his independance, we disown him for what he has done. There’s a difference.
Post#7
Thanks.
Yes, you have to do your own research and no I can’t think of one either. This is the craziest campaign I have ever witnessed, Its like Disney’s Mr. Toads Wild Ride.
Hey, Cat, there is one final thing to add to your first post.
You’re right about how they will attack in the general election, but what makes them giddy is that if he survives that onslought and wins the general, he thinks like them anyway.
McCain is a win-win for the left.
tgusa,
I’ve never been on that ride but I’d rather the country was on that one rather than this one (although in contest “Mr Toad’s Wild Ride” makes me think of Bill and Monica). Once again, I think that idea of yours is a must for every conservative to do right away, this second, while there is still time to make a clear-headed decision.
New Rassmussen poll out today Romney 27%,McCain 23%,Rudy 20%,still alot of undecideds.Hoping for a Romney victory to stop McCain ie amnesty man.
In the private sector whether it’s in business, or in the military, or in government “Mavericks” are not good leaders. They anger the people that try to follow them, their advisers and their equals. Sound familiar?
Forgot to mention that the poll was in Flordia.
SHoward,
Yes, that’s a good point. McCain is probably saying to himself, “Gee, even the left wing media thinks I’m a good candidate! They’ve reached across party lines! That proves I’m a uniter!”
God help us. Pathetic. To the point of dangerous.
McCain’s palentological reference: Patheticas McCainasaurus Rex, or the Pathetic McCain Lizard King. Sometimes I wonder, truly, I mean this, how we can live in a world with so many people who are so g*dd*mn stupid.
Mr. Conservative Cat,
It’s a simple Fantasy land ride where you are doing about 5 miles` an hour in a little car through a town/maze. Trains coming at you only to turn out of the way at the last second, Dynamiters waiting in the shadows, that type of stuff. Everybody including the dog catcher is after Mr. Toad who drives a lot like Mr. Magoo. Young boys will find it a blast but some little girls will find it disturbing.
Marshall,
“Maverick” is just a short way of saying “I’m an unreliable Republican leader who crosses party lines to vote against the will of my consitituents.” Maverick just makes such deplorible action sound good.
Much like the more memorable aspects of the Clinton Presidency.
My dad is in his 80’s and when we were discussing who we were voting for he thought either Guliani or McCain were good choices. Since he gets his news from a paper, I asked him if he noticed any bad coverage of McCain and he said he really hadn’t. On the Republican side everything bad was being directed at Romney and Guliani as far as he could tell, and no Dem would get his vote no matter what. When I asked him if the reporting made him suspicious he got it. Hey everybody, be sure you talk to your parents who are isolated information-wise.
If you want to know why John McCain will never win in a general election check out the latest poll at conservative news forum Free Republic. They ask the question If it’s McCain vs Hillary in the general, how do you vote?
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=215
If you want to vote click on the ‘Return to Forum’ link at the bottom of the page, then scroll down and look for the poll on the right side of the page.
I voted ‘Third party’. I and most conservative friends that I know will NEVER vote for John McCain… NO MATTER WHAT!
I’m over at freerepublic.com all the time as well and the mood over there is that most people are staying home if McSwine is the Republican candidate. I for one will do the same, I will never ever vote for that TRAITOR to the Republican cause.
While I admire McSwine’s service to this country, but his politics are another matter. He isn’t even a Republican, let alone a conservative. I’d much rather vote Dem whoever it is, at least I know what I’ll be getting for the next four years!
Now I get it. There’s a lefty-left and a righty-left. McCain *spit* is gonna split the Dem vote if he makes the general. HRC or Obama should well be nervous.
mccain has an ad out showing all these liberals and media stating that behind the scenes: ‘who are the dems afraid of running against? why, as novak a mccain pimp says, mccain’.
no they aren’t they are lying if they are saying that. that is exactly who they want to run against, why? because they know they will win.
I noticed that “PRAY” took second in every category.
A lot of food for thought here.I appreciate it,even though it makes my decision more difficult.All I really want to add is if Mother Jones is for him,I’m against him.I haven’t read MJ more than a couple of times,but what I have read there convinced me that it’s views are not compatible with mine.
The GOP can’t win without their base. The democrats already know this and always run hardcore socialist liberals.
Chasing the “swing vote” is pointless, as most “swing voters” are clueless and watch 10 minutes of MSM as their substitue for research. They’ll vote for whoever looks nice, speaks nice, and does good in the polls.
The GOP has already lost the election by chasing the swing vote and abandonding the base. McCain or Rudy winning the nomination will actually cause some conservatives to actively campaign against them. Forget about the contributions, and footwork that the base usually does.
The GOP base has its limits. RomneyCare is about 2 steps over that limit. McCain & Rudy are about 5 or 6 steps over that limit.
It’s a good time to buy decent guns before they get banned.
Maybe I’m in a serious mood but this is a joke, right?
There is no righty-left, only lefty-left and WAYYYY lefty-left. They want McCain because they probably rightly believe that Hillary will beat him in the general.
When the mainstream media embraces a Republican, run and object like hell.
The good news, sorta, is that they hate Romney and Giuliani. The bad news is they think McCain and Huckabee are “honorable men” - another phrase from the MSM which when applied to Republicans should scare the sh*t out of you.
This is simple and entirely without subtle nuance: what part of “stupid to the point of putting Hillary Clinton in charge of our armed forces” don’t they understand?
The Fourth Estate will schmooze an’ swoon over McAmnesty, just until he’s nominated.
After that, the napalm will fly.
Who the hell they think they’re bamboozling?
You gotta do the best you can with the hand you’re dealt. The public tends to keep one party in the White House, and one party in control of congress. I’m not going to discuss all the reasons for this.
BUT, that means that Hilbama in the White House may allow for the GOP to take control of congress again.
The alternative is to have a Liberal RINO in the White House appointing liberal judges, raising taxes, banning guns, squashing the first amendment, pushing socialism, etc. while a democrat congress gleefully plays along.
BAAAARRRRFFFF.
Not even the worst bookie, drunk as a skunk, would place odds on that gamble considering the effect of the MSM.
Right. As in what part of “stupid to the point of putting Hillary Clinton in charge of our armed forces” don’t they understand?
Hmmm, what could they be up to? Maybe they have a suspicion that it’s probably going to be a repub so they are trying to at least water down the effect. How? A lefty disguised as a righty of course. I have a lot of issues with McCain, immigration being one, some of you may not remember but I have already been down that road in the 80’s and I’m not buying it again. They should have at least waited until all of us who remember that were dead. I don’t understand what happened to him on his way to the forum but it isnt impressive.
The only reason the dems have been able to stay where they are is they have the media in the bag. If the people are ever told the truth about where they stand on the issues they are finished. Sure a lot of people don’t care or are very shallow but there are many others that want the truth. The trouble is they are nice decent Americans who want to believe that what they are hearing is the truth. That is their only fault and they are being jobbed by the media. If we start requiring ID at the polls like we do at the video store they are double done.
I don’t think you get it. We are GOING to lose for the reasons I stated earlier. That’s reality. You have to decide the best path to take from there.
For example:
1. Will staying home send a message to the GOP?
or
2. Will voting for a third party candidate send a more concretely statistical message?
because
3. Holding your nose and voting for a liberal RINO will send the message that you’re OK with liberals, and thus you’re setting yourself up for a Rudy McRomnian defeat year after year after year after year.
#27. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not necessarily saying that McCain would win, but let’s face it, McCain in no way represents conservatives. None. The Dems are, as you write, WAYYYY lefty-left and lefty-left. McCain is going to appeal to some of those lefty-left. He even appeals to Mother Jones for cripes sake. …and whether you like it or not, some conservatives will stay home if McCain is the nominee. Thus the dilemma of which is more: the conservatives that stay home or the Dems that McCain will pull. Don’t forget that a candidate that loses a vote to staying home only loses one vote, but a candidate that pulls a vote from the other side gains a vote and takes one away from the other side.
ALERT,ALERT,ALERT, This is hilarious, I just had a call from the Obama Campaign, now let me preface this with I have never in all the year’s I have been voting, voted for a dimicrap and have never recieved a call from a dimicrap. I have helped a buddy in a state campaign and I know for a fact that both parties have seperate list’s of Dim’s, Rep. and Indep. how I know that is I had the list for all three on my computer of every registered voter in the State and their party affiliation.
The caller identified her self as gayle from the Obama campaign and told me about the primaries Feb 5, she said “have you decided who you are going to vote for” I said ” not Hillary or Obama I’m not a Democrat voter” she then said “Oh so you vote Republican” I said “I vote conservitive” and she said “oh, so your going to vote for John McCain, I’m sorry for taking your time you sound like you’ve made up your mind, Have a good day” and hung up.
Whaaaaat? the you know what, I never mentioned McCain’s name. I am not registered as an Independent I’m registered as a Republican.
Why would the Obama campaign call my house and when told I was’nt voting for him suggest a Rep. candidate? Does the Obama campaign think that we are going to have Rep. defector’s? are they trying to set up McCain as the Rep. candidate in Nov.? and why would they call me knowing that I’m a registered Rep. anyway?
I just read on the Fox news web page that “Rambo” Stalone is backing McCain to counter the Huckster’s Chuck Norris.
What a couple of idiots.
Clinton wins, the democrats win. Obama wins, the democrats win. McCain wins, the democrats win.
Other McCain lovers; Bill Kristol, Ted Kennedy, and Michael Medved.
If you thought Hugh Hewitt’s man-crush on Romney was sickening, Michael Medved’s rabid attacks on anyone who doesn’t agree that McCain’s 83% conservative rating is more righteous than even Ronaldus Magnus could’ve dreamed of attaining will make you feel worse than a bad case of dysentery.
I’m really losing respect for a lot of these right-wing talkers with their willingness to play fast and loose with the truth. I don’t care if you love shamnesty, Michael, it’s not a lie to call out McCain’s liberalism and pandering to the Treason Media.
So much clarification needed here:
This cynical fatalism, if embraced by our founding fathers, would have kept us under British rule. This cynical fatalism would have caused us to lose WWII. Reagan would have given in to the USSR, and the terrorists would be bombing our cities every night while we hid under our couches. No thanks. The very premise upon which you’ve built your arguement is fatally flawed, and fatal may be appropos if your kind of thinking puts Hillary in the White House. When I hear guys like you I instantly think “liberal shill trying to demoralize the conservative base” because a real conservative, no matter how ideologically driven, would never admit defeat before the war is even fought.
The time for “messages” is over. The battle lines are nearly drawn and the war has commenced. Suck it in and deal with it, soldier.
Okay, try to understand this: his only “appeal” is as a loser to Hillary. The dems will never vote for him. The “support” they show is a sham. How many times do you need to live this this trick in election cycles before it becomes clear?! The thing to do is tell everyone what the trick is - educate everyone you know - that’s the best way to avoid a McCain nomination.
They are feckless, unpatriotic losers, and should be told so at every opportunity in an effort to get them off their hissy-fit asses and out to do their duty for their country. I have no doubt you’ll do your part by telling everyone who know who’s determined to sit out 08 over an ideological temper tantrum that they are as UnAmerican as the Taliban - literally. All this analysis and talk of messages and theorizing is water under the bridge. The time for that is over. Aacademically it’s simple, so get into the required mode from this day forward: get out the vote. Period.
If McCain pulls 1% of Dems it will be a miracle, especially after the MSM is done destroying him after he gets the nomination after they got through praising him in hopes he did get the nomination. They make fawning noises now because they believe he will lose to Hillary and they want him to. It isn’t complicated. Clear? Don’t be a dope and fall of it again.
Don’t forget that a candidate that loses a vote to staying home only loses one vote, but a candidate that pulls a vote from the other side gains a vote and takes one away from the other side.
Statistically dead wrong. Staying home is a de facto vote for the other side, so the only thing that’s different is the actual numbers and a slight shift in the percentages, but the percentages for all practical purposes remain the same. A stay-at-home for McCain ensures a Hillary victory. The hope though, is that Hillary is polarizing enough that many dems will stay hope, especially the centerists, which is why it’s critical that ever Republican turn out and vote for whomever the Republican candidate is. 100% is unrealistic in any situation, in any part of life. Staying home is simply unacceptable to anyone who gives the slightest damn about their country. Those who don’t shouldn’t sit home and pretend they do.
This isn’t so new but it’s still a very effective trick. Don’t in any way chalk this up to being a casual misperception on the caller’s part. I have it on good authority from one camp that the dems want McCain so bad they can taste it. This remark is a demonstration of upping the strategical stakes, and it’s clever. And dangerous , because it works - so get out the anti-McCain chatter asap (but be smart and don’t tell anyone you’ll stay home if McCain wins, because the Dems will push all the harder to try get McCain the nod).
No! (Sheesh!) Clinton wins the Dems get 100% to do anything they want. Obama wins the dems get 100% to do whatever they want. McCain wins the Dems get 50% to do whatever they want, because McCain will at least need to partially satisfy his base if he wants another 4 years and he knows it and he’ll want those 4 years.
After what our parents did to win WWII, I can’t believe some of the shallow, cynical/pessimism on this board being trotted out as realistic pragmatism. Except some of them are clearly shilling for the dems, that much is obvious.
I’m afraid that we are going to have to go through a period like Jimmah Carter.
If Hillary or Obama wins, it will be such a disaster for the country that the following 12 years will be conservative again.
Its going to be a rough ride, but like they said in the Godfather “every so often we have to go through a blood letting just to clean things up.” Buy your guns and ammo now. Stockpile and bury it.
If I have to choose between McCain or Clinton, I’m not sure what I’ll do. But I’m beginning to warm up to Rush’s comment today. He said that if he had to choose between two candidates who would destroy the country, he would rather it be the candidate from the other party.
This is ALL I need to know to say NO to McCain!!!
From The Corner…….
More Multiculturalism [Mark Krikorian]
You are absolutely right Mr. Conservative Cat on all points.
“Because a real conservative, no matter how ideologically driven, would never admit defeat before the war is even fought.”
Especially that one. McCain has yet to face a single state where the immigration issue is huge. I’m ready and waiting for the showdown on super Tuesday. My only regret is that you can’t chew out candidates while you are in the booth. But lets be honest here, Ugo Chavez would fit right in on the stage with the dems. He might even spice up the debate, that would depend on whether or not he is successful in smuggling his bag of chaw into the USA.
So if I’m in fight against 40 thugs armed with automatic weapons, and I have 2 broken legs and am armed with a banana, I shouldn’t admit defeat?
Sorry, that wouldn’t make me a conservative, that’d make me a fool or insane. And such head-burying doesn’t help make good decisions.
I don’t understand how being surrounded by guys with ak’s(islamists?) and fighting a battle over candidates equate but I will bite.
That depends on you. Do you think these ak wielding guys are going to fix you up and treat you well give you a nice place to sleep and plenty to eat, sorta like gitmo but without the ice cream and cookies? Would you rather be captured, tortured and killed or should you just do a quick bonsai charge?
Thanks tgusa, and sure, Chavez would feel right at home, and the dems would feel at home with him.
I’ll be online during the debate if you want to help me push back some of the cry baby antics certain to happen this evening.
NBF,
I don;t know what to say except that by word and promised deed not only are you not a conservative or a patriot, I’d quuestion some of your more fundemental characteristics.
All anyone is going to get from you is an attempt to hide your hopless, fatalistic cowardice with a facade of iron-willed pragmatism.
The primaries aren’t done and you’re off the hook with absurdly melodramatic hyperbole about 2 broken arms and machine guns all around and the rest. The problem for you is not that you see things clearly, the problem is you seem to magnify your challenges out of all reasonable prespective. Apparently in your POV ants become magnified to fearsome monsterous giants, their mandibles stretching as far to the left and right as you can see.
if you want to stay home and be a pathetic, unpatriotic loser and stew in your endless rivers of nevgativity, by my guest.
But you’;re no conservative for giving up so early in the fight. there’s no reasonable differing opinion on that. Conservatives don’t quit when they should be able to prepare a victory. Will it be a perfect victory? no. By today’s idealistic standards of the sort you aspouse, even reagan, with amnesty, taxes raised in California and a broken marriage would never have come up to your lofty standard.
So go sit it out, loser. The remaining 99.9 percent of us will be thinking of you when we’re toasting our imperfect victory in November.