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		<title>By: ahraley</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/25/sign-of-the-times-2/comment-page-1/#comment-229423</link>
		<dc:creator>ahraley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have driven by this sign many many times.  It always gives me a chuckle.

However:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve seen the sign (used to live in Greenville, SC). Locals in SC generally pronounce it “Clinnon”–almost as one syllable. Wonder if it’s deliberate?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As a native South Carolinian... I have never heard it pronounced in that manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have driven by this sign many many times.  It always gives me a chuckle.</p>
<p>However:</p>
<blockquote><p>I’ve seen the sign (used to live in Greenville, SC). Locals in SC generally pronounce it “Clinnon”–almost as one syllable. Wonder if it’s deliberate?</p></blockquote>
<p>As a native South Carolinian&#8230; I have never heard it pronounced in that manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moran</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/25/sign-of-the-times-2/comment-page-1/#comment-228305</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Moran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It was those missiles that caused the Russians to retaliate by putting missiles in Cuba.&lt;/em&gt;

&quot;Retaliate?&quot; The Soviets had hundreds of medium range missiles aimed at our NATO allies while GB and France had at most several dozen nukes to target Russia. 

The imbalance was extreme and the deployment of Jupiters to Turkey was a direct response to the Soviet challenge.

The Jupiters were Kruschev&#039;s excuse for deploying missiles to Cuba. The real reason he did was because he thought he could get away with it. He miscalculated, thinking Keenedy a weak sister based on his Vienna meeting.

He was right. But Kruschev didn&#039;t realize that once those missiles in Cuba would have become known, Kennedy and the Democrats would be been in deep political trouble. The Republicans had been warning for months and making big political hay about an offensive build up by the Sovs in Cuba. 

There is evidence Kennedy knew about the missiles in September when a Congressman who was privy to a briefing by a CIA officer about activity at the missile sites warned the President at that time that the Republicans would skewer the administration if the Sovs deployed nukes in Cuba.

Kennedy may in fact have been thinking of ignoring the missiles in favor of keeping them secret.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It was those missiles that caused the Russians to retaliate by putting missiles in Cuba.</em></p>
<p>&#8220;Retaliate?&#8221; The Soviets had hundreds of medium range missiles aimed at our NATO allies while GB and France had at most several dozen nukes to target Russia. </p>
<p>The imbalance was extreme and the deployment of Jupiters to Turkey was a direct response to the Soviet challenge.</p>
<p>The Jupiters were Kruschev&#8217;s excuse for deploying missiles to Cuba. The real reason he did was because he thought he could get away with it. He miscalculated, thinking Keenedy a weak sister based on his Vienna meeting.</p>
<p>He was right. But Kruschev didn&#8217;t realize that once those missiles in Cuba would have become known, Kennedy and the Democrats would be been in deep political trouble. The Republicans had been warning for months and making big political hay about an offensive build up by the Sovs in Cuba. </p>
<p>There is evidence Kennedy knew about the missiles in September when a Congressman who was privy to a briefing by a CIA officer about activity at the missile sites warned the President at that time that the Republicans would skewer the administration if the Sovs deployed nukes in Cuba.</p>
<p>Kennedy may in fact have been thinking of ignoring the missiles in favor of keeping them secret.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnHolliday</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnHolliday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;lgm&lt;/strong&gt;, negotiation works sometimes, and sometimes not. It depends on with whom you are negotiating.  The Soviets may have wanted to destroy the U.S. but not at the expense of destroying themselves. The jihadis will negotiate only long enough to plan the next attack. And they are willing to destroy themselves to destroy us.

We had a similar problem with the Japanese in WW2. The kamikaze were willing to take their own lives for their country.  Japan was defeated (and knew it) but refused to negotiate. When the atomic bombs hit, they knew the end was at hand and had to negotiate. So they surrendered.

Saying &quot;Bush won&#039;t negotiate&quot; only shows how little you understand. We were negotiating with the North Vietnamese in 1967.  We even agreed to a cease-fire for the Chinese New Year.  This allowed North Vietnam to arm and infiltrate. The Tet Offensive started in early 1968 because we negotiated.

Don&#039;t just assume you should always negotiate.  And remember, negotiation is best done from a position of strength. &lt;em&gt;Speak softy but carry a big stick.&lt;/em&gt;  That is the most succinct statement about negotiation. Ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>lgm</strong>, negotiation works sometimes, and sometimes not. It depends on with whom you are negotiating.  The Soviets may have wanted to destroy the U.S. but not at the expense of destroying themselves. The jihadis will negotiate only long enough to plan the next attack. And they are willing to destroy themselves to destroy us.</p>
<p>We had a similar problem with the Japanese in WW2. The kamikaze were willing to take their own lives for their country.  Japan was defeated (and knew it) but refused to negotiate. When the atomic bombs hit, they knew the end was at hand and had to negotiate. So they surrendered.</p>
<p>Saying &#8220;Bush won&#8217;t negotiate&#8221; only shows how little you understand. We were negotiating with the North Vietnamese in 1967.  We even agreed to a cease-fire for the Chinese New Year.  This allowed North Vietnam to arm and infiltrate. The Tet Offensive started in early 1968 because we negotiated.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t just assume you should always negotiate.  And remember, negotiation is best done from a position of strength. <em>Speak softy but carry a big stick.</em>  That is the most succinct statement about negotiation. Ever.</p>
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		<title>By: lgm</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/25/sign-of-the-times-2/comment-page-1/#comment-228200</link>
		<dc:creator>lgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;garyt&lt;/strong&gt; said ($40):

&lt;blockquote&gt;Its funny that Kennedy was not an appeaser to our enemies...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Did you know that he negotiated our way out of the Cuban missile crisis by agreeing to remove US missiles from Turkey?  It was those missiles that caused the Russians to retaliate by putting missiles in Cuba.  

If JFK could negotiate with an enemy, why not Bush?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>garyt</strong> said ($40):</p>
<blockquote><p>Its funny that Kennedy was not an appeaser to our enemies&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Did you know that he negotiated our way out of the Cuban missile crisis by agreeing to remove US missiles from Turkey?  It was those missiles that caused the Russians to retaliate by putting missiles in Cuba.  </p>
<p>If JFK could negotiate with an enemy, why not Bush?</p>
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		<title>By: tre</title>
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		<dc:creator>tre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A real sign from God.

There&#039;s a Clinton, OK, too. Many people visit there to see the Oklahoma State Route 66 Museum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A real sign from God.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a Clinton, OK, too. Many people visit there to see the Oklahoma State Route 66 Museum.</p>
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		<title>By: SoutherOps</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoutherOps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live just up the road from Clinton in Greenville. That road sign has to be the most photographed sign in history. We&#039;ve been enjoying that one since 1992. And true, so true, it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live just up the road from Clinton in Greenville. That road sign has to be the most photographed sign in history. We&#8217;ve been enjoying that one since 1992. And true, so true, it is.</p>
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		<title>By: DBNinKY</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/25/sign-of-the-times-2/comment-page-1/#comment-228069</link>
		<dc:creator>DBNinKY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 15:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On January 26th, 2008 at 7:07 pm, Barry F. said:

    It’s a funny sign, but face it, the Clinton years were the most prosperous since Kennedy.

For whom - the Clintons and China?&lt;/blockquote&gt;




The terrorists, the money launderers, and the influence peddlers didn&#039;t fare too poorly during those &lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;heady&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt; days either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On January 26th, 2008 at 7:07 pm, Barry F. said:</p>
<p>    It’s a funny sign, but face it, the Clinton years were the most prosperous since Kennedy.</p>
<p>For whom &#8211; the Clintons and China?</p></blockquote>
<p>The terrorists, the money launderers, and the influence peddlers didn&#8217;t fare too poorly during those <em></em><em>heady</em> days either.</p>
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		<title>By: garyt</title>
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		<dc:creator>garyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its funny that Kennedy was not an appeaser to our enemies like the Mcgovernites that run the demo party now. Its funny too that JFK advocated a tax-cut as well as a strong defense. Would he be a GOP guy today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its funny that Kennedy was not an appeaser to our enemies like the Mcgovernites that run the demo party now. Its funny too that JFK advocated a tax-cut as well as a strong defense. Would he be a GOP guy today?</p>
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		<title>By: Barry F.</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/25/sign-of-the-times-2/comment-page-1/#comment-227805</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s a funny sign, but face it, the Clinton years were the most prosperous since Kennedy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For whom - the Clintons and China?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s a funny sign, but face it, the Clinton years were the most prosperous since Kennedy.</p></blockquote>
<p>For whom &#8211; the Clintons and China?</p>
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		<title>By: Oh What a Sign: Clinton or Prosperity? &#171; Wolf Pangloss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh What a Sign: Clinton or Prosperity? &#171; Wolf Pangloss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] h/t: Michelle Malkin [...]</description>
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		<title>By: graysonret</title>
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		<dc:creator>graysonret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clinton took credit for prosperity that had been set up before by Bush, Sr. (which cost him the election) and Reagan.  JFK didn&#039;t ride on the coattails of anyone. Remember he was the one with the &quot;Ask not..&quot; speech that would revolt the Democrats today.  Also, he was the one, speaking at the Economics Club in N.Y., that called tax cuts, the &quot;Paradox of Economics&quot;.  You cut taxes to increase government revenue.  He is not exactly a hero of the new Democrats today...though they lie and say he is a hero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinton took credit for prosperity that had been set up before by Bush, Sr. (which cost him the election) and Reagan.  JFK didn&#8217;t ride on the coattails of anyone. Remember he was the one with the &#8220;Ask not..&#8221; speech that would revolt the Democrats today.  Also, he was the one, speaking at the Economics Club in N.Y., that called tax cuts, the &#8220;Paradox of Economics&#8221;.  You cut taxes to increase government revenue.  He is not exactly a hero of the new Democrats today&#8230;though they lie and say he is a hero.</p>
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		<title>By: Ocracoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ocracoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen the sign (used to live in Greenville, SC). Locals in SC generally pronounce it &quot;Clinnon&quot;--almost as one syllable. Wonder if it&#039;s deliberate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen the sign (used to live in Greenville, SC). Locals in SC generally pronounce it &#8220;Clinnon&#8221;&#8211;almost as one syllable. Wonder if it&#8217;s deliberate?</p>
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		<title>By: jukin</title>
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		<dc:creator>jukin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Clintons and prosperity as far as the East is from the West. An infinite distance.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Only because your masters in the MSM told you so. Unemployment was higher during those years.  Oh, don&#039;t forget the great dotcom ponzi scheme falling down during his reign. So many 401ks worth so little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Clintons and prosperity as far as the East is from the West. An infinite distance.</p></blockquote>
<p>Only because your masters in the MSM told you so. Unemployment was higher during those years.  Oh, don&#8217;t forget the great dotcom ponzi scheme falling down during his reign. So many 401ks worth so little.</p>
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		<title>By: GaijinBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaijinBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy smokes!  It&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;time=&amp;date=&amp;ttype=&amp;q=Newberry,+SC&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=34.340034,-81.738968&amp;spn=0.345281,0.754623&amp;z=11&amp;om=0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;real place&lt;/a&gt;! (The &quot;Hell&quot; sign looks photo-shopped, though.)
&lt;strong&gt;Marshall Russ&lt;/strong&gt; said:&lt;blockquote&gt;The Clintons and prosperity as far as the East is from the West. An infinite distance...&lt;/blockquote&gt;Actually by route 76, it&#039;s about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mapquest.com/maps-directions/?aoh=1&amp;mo=ma&amp;un=m&amp;aos=0&amp;aot=0&amp;go=1&amp;1c=Clinton&amp;1g=KfUvW1ItaMrdtCU1YVsvFA%253d%253d&amp;2c=Prosperity&amp;1l=rsgqM7VXoS4poYzGMNHHjg%253d%253d&amp;1rc=A5XAX&amp;cl=EN&amp;1n=Laurens%20County&amp;2g=OJJ1qTJmM7HvReAKB%252bvBWw%253d%253d&amp;1s=SC&amp;2l=b3oPDunlhLDsGgxHdX4YgQ%253d%253d&amp;ct=NA&amp;1v=CITY&amp;1y=US&amp;userId=474f0f20%2d00343%2d040c0%2d1386bccd&amp;1si=gaz%5fus&amp;2s=SC&amp;2v=CITY&amp;did=1201365647&amp;2y=US&amp;wpend=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;28 miles&lt;/a&gt;. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy smokes!  It&#8217;s a <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;time=&amp;date=&amp;ttype=&amp;q=Newberry,+SC&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=34.340034,-81.738968&amp;spn=0.345281,0.754623&amp;z=11&amp;om=0" rel="nofollow">real place</a>! (The &#8220;Hell&#8221; sign looks photo-shopped, though.)<br />
<strong>Marshall Russ</strong> said:<br />
<blockquote>The Clintons and prosperity as far as the East is from the West. An infinite distance&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually by route 76, it&#8217;s about <a href="http://www.mapquest.com/maps-directions/?aoh=1&amp;mo=ma&amp;un=m&amp;aos=0&amp;aot=0&amp;go=1&amp;1c=Clinton&amp;1g=KfUvW1ItaMrdtCU1YVsvFA%253d%253d&amp;2c=Prosperity&amp;1l=rsgqM7VXoS4poYzGMNHHjg%253d%253d&amp;1rc=A5XAX&amp;cl=EN&amp;1n=Laurens%20County&amp;2g=OJJ1qTJmM7HvReAKB%252bvBWw%253d%253d&amp;1s=SC&amp;2l=b3oPDunlhLDsGgxHdX4YgQ%253d%253d&amp;ct=NA&amp;1v=CITY&amp;1y=US&amp;userId=474f0f20%2d00343%2d040c0%2d1386bccd&amp;1si=gaz%5fus&amp;2s=SC&amp;2v=CITY&amp;did=1201365647&amp;2y=US&amp;wpend=2" rel="nofollow">28 miles</a>. <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: backwoods conservative</title>
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		<dc:creator>backwoods conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of a joke that was going around when Bill was president. It said residents of the town of Laurens were getting up a petition to change the name of the town to Hillary. That way, you would have to go through Hillary to get to Clinton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of a joke that was going around when Bill was president. It said residents of the town of Laurens were getting up a petition to change the name of the town to Hillary. That way, you would have to go through Hillary to get to Clinton.</p>
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