A Florida voter asks McCain about his open-borders outreach director
Update: Reader Mary Jo e-mails: “Since Juan McCain has appointed Juan Hernandez to the position of Hispanic Outreach Campaign Advisor, perhaps someone should ask him who he is going to appoint as American Outreach Campaign Director. I guess the average American citizen is not very important to him.”
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Shamnesty peddler John McCain; top entry in the McCain-spearheaded Reform Institute’s “Design Your Portion of the Border Fence” art contest; McCain’s open-borders Hispanic outreach director Juan Hernandez
Reader Joan e-mailed me today. She’s in Valrico, Florida, and confronted John McCain this afternoon about his open-borders outreach director, Juan Hernandez. She didn’t get straight talk:
Dear Michelle,
I attended the townhall meeting earlier today in Polk City and asked John McCain:
Your Hispanic Outreach Campaign Advisor, Juan Hernandez, has written a book referring to illegal immigrants as “New American Pioneers.” Hernandez has also stated that illegal immigrants who use social security numbers of American citizens really don’t steal, they have no choice but to make up a number. Are you aware of his statements? Do you agree with him? If not would you consider removing him from your staff?
John McCain answered that he supported Juan Hernandez because he holds the same views as he (McCain) on other issues. He says that he determines his positions and Hernandez agrees with him, not the other way around. He appeared to be unaware of the specific positions of Hernandez that I related.
I would say I got a non-answer. I did not get a video but all the media were present.
On national security, energy independence, veterans tratment and curtailing spending, McCain’s position and answers are strong. Why he does not consider millions of lawbreakers a security threat I do not understand…
Joan
Valrico, FL
Bryan Preston obtained audio of the townhall meeting exchange and has the non-straight talk transcript. Update: Video added.
Keep asking: If John McCain supports securing the border, why does he embrace a campaign Hispanic outreach director who doesn’t believe in borders and why does the Soros-funded think tank he helped form, The Reform Institute, hold student art contests demonizing the border fence?
A reminder of the prize winners and some of the top entrants:
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And oh, by the way, he’ll sign the shamnesty bill if he’s in the White House. Not that you should have ever doubted that, anyway…
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I love it when the circle comes together. MM brings it to our attention here, Joan picks it up and confronts McCain, Joan reports back.
Thanks for reprensenting my interests for me in Florida Joan.
To me this is just confirmation of what a loser McCain truly is.
Straight Talk….Bull Crap !!!
Juan and Juan what a team…I just don’t see how anyone that calls themselves a conservative can vote for Juan McAmnesty.
I will not vote for John McCain if he is the Republicrat nominee. I will stay at home. We need someone who will protect America and enforce the law.
traveler49, you are right. Thank both of you ladies for your work. If McShamnisty happens to win the nomination, I WILL NOT VOTE. PERIOD. I feel it would be better to let the Dems get blamed for Liberal policies, then having a RINO in office representing the GOP. Go Mitt! from a former Fred Head
Great job Joan, And as always Michelle….
He really thinks we are THAT STUPID, doesn’t he??!!!?
Me thinks Joan is a patriot!
Good job Joan, and thanks be to the Boss lady.
Adding up, not to 2, but to zero.
It has been said that we get the government we deserve.
America deserves better.
So, is that enough to make Joan and others like her not vote for McCain?
I can’t wait for Rush to get a hold of this on Monday.
I will not stay home on election day if John McCain is the Republican nominee. However my choice at the top of the ballot will remain blank. To use the election speak of Florida 2000 a deliberate under vote. There are candidates and issues further down the ballot that need and deserve my vote.
rakkasan, Don’t stay home…go vote, write your mother in if you like, but vote for the your local, state and federal legislators. we need all the conservatives in congress we can get…just in case turn coat juan or a dem is the pres.
If this doesn’t motivate the Party to stop the McCain train wreck I don’t know what will!!
Al I can say is, thank the Lord for the blogosphere.
Folks, do to these meetings and ask the tough questions. Eventually, the media will not be able to ignore it.
I used to feel that it was essential to vote for any Republican, in order to keep the Democrats from winning.
However, the more I learn about the Republican candidates, and the more I contemplate the approaching election, the Republicans begin to resemble more and more the Democrats, to the point where they now appear barely different, and different only, and that’s a perhaps only, in degree;
they certainly do NOT appear noticeably different in kind.
The Republicans may be a bit different quantitatively from the Dems; but, they are qualitatively the SAME as the Dems.
So, if they are going to cave in to Democrats anyway, and try to be Dem “lite”, and thus effectively lead to no significantly different result than the Dems;
it seems that it just might be a better idea to let the Dems in, and to let them unequivocally bear ALL the responsibility and blame for the dreadful, screwed-up mess you just know they are going to make of things.
And, in the meantime, since the Republicans are no longer conservatives, but rather “lite” Democrats, it seems perhaps that it’s time:
for the Republicans to fade away as a factor in politics, sort of the way the Liberals in Britain did in the early part of the 20th century;
and for the creation of a truly conservative, traditionalist, grown-up, responsible, clear-thinking poltical party to challenge and resist the socialists/leftists, which is, after all, what the “Democrats” actually are.
The Brits had the term “gone native” for representatives and officials of the Empire who identified more with the colonials among whom they were posted, rather than with their own British countrymen; it seems the vast majority of politicans “go native” after they have spent a certain time in politics – even before they’ve gotten to Washington.
If the “lite” Dems (Republicans) are voted for, they are essentially being rewarded for their bad behavior…not a good idea, because it will only lead to more bad, and to worse, behavior.
It’s hard to imagine that McCain (or any other candidate for that matter) thinks he’ll win against an overwhelming majority of Republicans,Independents, and a portion of Dems to win the White House when those number are all chomping at the bits, demanding something meaningful be done about illegal immigration. And, no, I don’t mean a general amnesty (which would in essense reduce the problem to zero). The arrogance is blindingly clear he thinks he’ll get away with it. He and The Huck scare me to death. Isn’t there someone out there, seated on a great white horse, ready to ride in and save the day?
Have wondered since HA and MM put up the stories of Juan H., how McCain would handle this? Thanks to Joan and MM, we know…. Thanks to both!
Re: “Gone Native”
Term Limits. 4 in the house, 2 in the senate. 20 years and done. Or 6 house and 3 senate. 30 years and DONE.
But in either case, No More McCains, Grahamn, Martinez representing the party.
People keep saying that Mac is strong on National Security but I don’t see how shutting down Gitmo and opening the borders is in any way good for National Security!
I said it once and I’ll say it till the proverbial cows come home, I WILL NEVER EVER VOTE FOR THAT SHAMNESTY-PUSHING JERK MCCAIN!!!! Never! For some supposedly driving “The Straight Talk Express”, he certainly does a lot of dancing around the immigration issue.
I truly believe if McCain get the Republican Nomination, it will set the party back many years. GO MITT from a former Fred-head!
Bravo Joan, way to keep the fire to the feet. Who are they polling when they say McCant is the Republican front runner? His family? I don’t know one person voting for that nut. Ordinary Coloradan has a great point. No more Mccants, Gramnesty, or Smell Martinez’ in office.
OrdinaryColoradan@7:21PM = You are right. Term Limits is the key. How do we accomplish that without the elected critters voting it in themselves, which is suicidal in their viewpoint? How do we in the general population manage to get it on a national election ballot? Dang, we can’t even manage to get the issue of illegal immigration on a ballot, nor even discussed seriously in the debates.
rightisright@7:03Pm – thanks for stressing how important every ballot up for vote is to your community, county, state, and federal level. There is so much at stake on every ballot. It’s one of the last true freedoms you have.
granite, I would watch Hillary’s coronation before I would vote for McCain.
Better to fight the devil you know, than to sell your soul.
But I just don’t think it will come to that… daylight has a mysterious effect.
#24:
I hope you’re right!
I’m an Arizonan who does not like McCain’t at all. With the election only few days away I am apalled that the only candidate signs I have seen in Tucson are for that nutball, Ron Paul. I can’t believe that the other candidates have ceded AZ to McCain’t.
He may well win the vote in AZ, but it will not be by as huge a majority that conventional wisdom seems to predict. After all, only Republicans get to vote in our primary, so the lib Democrats can’t skew the vote in McCain’t's direction.
If McCain’t does win the nomination, I also will submit a ballot with either a blank selection or a write in…..no more damn RINIOs!!
RINO’s, sorry.
Certainly one of the most depressing aspects of this primary season has been the degree to which open-borders Republicans have done so well, and pro-sovereignty (for lack of a better term) Republicans have done so poorly. So far the voters are sending a message that they don’t care about illegal immigration, and this is red meat and a green light for McCain and his ilk. Of course there are complicating factors in this picture: the fact that the early primaries were not closed, the lameness of the “debates” which didn’t seem to come close to this fundamental issue, and the fact that the voters seemed to be distracted by other concerns, e.g. the economy. Nevertheless, there is a disturbing trend here. If this doesn’t change soon, and the majority of Republican voters remain indifferent, as they appear to be, to the open-borders crisis and/or refuse to educate themselves on it, there is not a whole lot that can be done. McCain may very well be “thinking” that only a few activists care about this anyway, so he is free to go his own way with no cost to himself. Others are likely to draw similar conclusions.
And of course no one on the Democrat side, certainly not the Messiah, cares in the slightest. This is starting to look very bad.
Great job Michelle, and many thanks to Joan for standing up and asking the question our “media” refuses to answer.
Every time I have heard Hernandez speak, my skin crawls and I want to hurl the remote at him! He “oozes” B.S. and treachery to the USA with a smile.
I feel almost the same way about McCain and now that I know he has Hernandez allied with him in any capacity, I have lost what little respect McCain earned a long time ago.
It would be a travesty if he is the nominee.
Rail to your hearts content and I hate his ideas on the illegals as much as anyone – just remember that any democrap will do the amnesty thing in a heartbeat + converting the US to marxism.
Up to now, I’ve been reluctant to support Mitt – he seems like too much of a slick politician for my taste. But if Rudy G has no realistic shot by the time the primary campaign reaches Pennsylvania, I may have to give Mr. Romney a serious look.
You folks that say you won’t vote if McCain is the nominee amuse me. How many of our soldiers have been killed in Iraq so that Iraqi citizens could have the right to vote in fair and free elections? You don’t want to vote for McCain? Then don’t. But don’t stay home. Write in Thompson, write in Tancredo, write in Spongebob, write in whoever. But don’t stay home in some kind of misguided protest. It’s an insult to our soldiers who are fighting to give others the right that you’re so willing to toss away.
Great job Joan. I would really like all the candidates to answer the question of do they believe it is ok to pick and choose which laws people are to obey? If not, how do they justify their views on illegal immigration?
McCain is speaking with a forked tongue. I have lost alot of respect for him.
McCain is a ‘Hillary Republican’…
to #33 @ Mookie — Spongebob says “I’M READY!”
They hold the same views on other issues?What the H*** does that mean?What other issues concerning the U.S.are of any interest to”my friend”Juan? 2 Juans don’t make a right.
gandolphxx: Not only are McCain’s illegal immigration ideas bad, he is bad on free speech (McCain/Fiengold) and the economy. He admits that he has little knowledge of economics. Those with little knowledge of economics are often easily led to seek government and/or socialist solutions to every economic problem. McCain also has no experience in the private sector. His entire substance has come either from a government paycheck or a wealthy spouse. (sort of sounds like another John of recent political history, doesn’t it?)
McCain’s history of supporting liberal social and economic policies does not indicate that he will slow the creeping socialism of the democrats at all. He may well embrace it, to the detriment of the country and the Republican party.
Vote for him if you feel you must, but I will not.
THANK YOU Joan for asking a question the media will not ask old CROOKED TALK.Joan the reason McCain isn’t strong on illegal immigration but rather is a amnesty guy is that is what he believes and although he has tried to craft a new position about border security he has always been and always will be a amnesty guy it’s who he is.
While all the media was there as you stated I seriously doubt we will here about it.They know many Republican voters are concerned about illegal immigration and since they love McCain they do not want to hurt his chances at least until the general election then the media will bring up illegal immigration often stating Senator McCain you and Senator Clinton or Obama both supported the comprehensive immigration bill didn’t you?They know this will hurt him with Republican voters such as myself who will sit out if McCain is the nominee.
Huh?
Hernandez has the title of Hispanic Outreach Director. Just what “other issues” is he involved with other than illegal aliens? National security? Economic policy? Defense? Cinco de Mayo?
Juan McCain – Senor Manure.
By the way, great work Joan!
You know why he doesn’t consider it stealing, because his gggg grampa was a conquistador. Same animosity same attitude different continent or some things never change. Go McCain, give em a state a Mexican state, so he can go.
Thanks Joan -For asking what should have been asked of him by Tim Russert today on MTP……At least he admitted on MTP that he would sign the bill if it came on his desk….And you know it will esp with all those open border buddies backing him…Along with Grahamnesty who I want to see lose as much as McCain….Sickening disgusting traitorous slime bags…(I would say more but I watered down my opinion of them)
I would love to see McCain talk about his border experience running a border state while the background shows a steady influx of invaders and shoot em ups ,drug dealers, trash desert behind him…..Now that would be straight talk and what a hoot that would be…Michele , how about cranking that up??
Let’s just suppose that McSham has actually vetted Senior Juan…this is one example of what we have to look forward to should he, by some miracle, get elected Pres.
We can look forward to him having advisors who look to line their own pockets, and establish themselves as power players at the country’s expense. This whole thing is so Clintonesque it makes me sick.
I honestly don’t know why he is running for President. He has NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING to offer, save corruption (remember the banking scandal back in the ’70s), and senility!!
The SnL scandal, yep. Would’nt it be easier to list the times McCain has been right? Someone mentioned it vaguely last night, friends, he has a hard time keeping friends, that happens when you are unfriendly and have a tendency to melt down when angered. You all know the type, they end up buying friends with goodies, terrific, we are being sold out to conquistadors because a senator cant make friends.
We often talk about how, “Republican voters are concerned about illegal immigration and border security”. I have Democrat friends who feel the same way as me……some are very liberal, and none of them are in favor of amnesty or against securing the border. Is it just the folks I hang out with, or is the Democrat anti-Shamnesty position something else the MSM is hiding from view?
Has anyone noticed the similarities in opponent bashing? The Clintons and McCains are both trying to destroy their opponents with lies, insinuations, etc, whatever it takes to take the negative off them. Hillary and McCain—two birds of a feather.
WHAT A POWERFUL NAIL!
I ain’t sellin’ MY soul to ANY “company store” – and get nuthin’ out of it but the privilege of trying to find someone to kick my sorry fanny for me all day long every day – every time I would have to THINK that I AM THE ONE who helped vote McCain’s sorry rear end into a higher position of power against my own best interests – and against the best interests of ANY AND EVERY human being on the planet – and of AMERICA!
It don’t get lower than THAT.
As Jefferson said – $$$MILLIONS FOR DEFENSE by NOT ONE DIME FOR TRIBUTE!
Someone who knows anything at all about our Founding Fathers – tell me you can name one: NATHAN HALE??? George Washington??? Patrick Henry??? James Otis??? Paul Revere???? Benjamin Rush, John Jay???
WHICH of them would enter the same BUILDING with John McCain, much less be persuaded to it AT THE SAME TABLE with him – even if it were NOT at the same time, but was 300 years apart???
They’d burn the table and chairs to ashes and make LYE SOAP out of it, first.
Straight talker! HAH! I can tell you where he is talking him self STRAIGHT TO!!!!
NO! NO! NO!!!
MAKE your time in the booth count the MOST!!!
WRITE IN SOMEONE WHO YOU REALLY ADMIRE – like Oliver North, Michelle Malkin, Franklin Graham, Ann Coulter, Jeff Dunham as Ahmad the Terrorist….
MAKE THE CLERKS HAVE TO DO SEPARATE TALLY SHEETS with TOTALS and also WITH LISTS OF THE NAMES – it keeps them at the job longer, all the way up the line. AND ALL gets reported to PARTY CHIEFS for them to have to chew on it the next election. DO NOT USE NAMES of JOKERS, because they does NOT send a MEssage EXCEPT TO SAY YOU ARE NOT SERIOUS.
Use a GOOD NAME of someone who stands for what you believe in.
Make them have to deal with it, by having to do the PAPERWORK to document it.
McCain is lying on the video. He is saying tgat he (McCain) is unaware of the crook]s (Juan’s) previous record. Then how did he (Mccain) select this crook (Juan) in the first place?
Americans are fools to let a lying traitor like McCain, get away with his bold-faced lies.
I suggest you all call in your favorite talk show and immediately e-mail, instead of putting another post in this thread, to O’Reilly and Hannity. The only way to get the word out besides telling everyone you know is to put pressure on the most influential media mouthpieces.
Essentially, you have effectively 24 hours to make a decisive impact. I respectfully suggest that everyone get to it and stay with it.This whole McCain thing is getting desperately serious.
I cannot believe republicans in Fl, including the FL female congresswoman (cannot recall her name) who was against amnesty, are supporting MCCain. I think these people are trapped by the beltway thinking that only McCain or a Rudy(but Rudy is slowly dying) can beat Hillary. Of course, they are listening to people like Fred Barnes (who is so beltway and out of touch I cannot stand to watch him and his bloviating buddies on Fox), and they are pushing this guy on equally fearful republicans whose fear of Hillary will blind them into ensuring her victory. It is simply incomprehensible to me that people can be that easily lead. I knew the dems were easily lead, but now I am becoming utterly disappointed by the republicans. Maybe we do need a new party. I can never cast my vote for McCain.
And since you’re online as I write Michelle, everyone owes you particular thanks for this one.
Ombre Rose,
Please turn off the caps lock key. Thanks!
Hm. or you were anyway (strange!)
and you are again.
Call and write immediately, everyone. Think of yourselves as minutemen. No time to waste, the redcoats are marching into Morristown. Time to move!
George Bush would sign a bill too. George Bush would STILL sign a bill again. But he can’t because Congress can’t put anything together. If you don’t want shamnesty, don’t go at it from the Executive branch. . . Go after it in the Legislative branch. Pray that Clinton is the nominee that brings a family reunion of R’s to the polls on election day.
But really, Romney had illegal aliens working on his own lawn. I have someone that helps me on my lawn and he does a great job. But I know he’s not an illegal alien. Romney doesn’t care any more about amnesty than any of the other Washington elitist. So fine, you don’t like McCain because his name is on it. . . but he wasn’t the winner, and he won’t be the winner on this issue.
FOCUS ON THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH to secure the border. THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH HAS THE MONEY.
Legislative is good months from now. Today is the eve of the Florida Primary. E-mail every effective media voice you know. The conservative make their living reflecting the views of their audience. Let them know what you want to hear.
Just sent the lying-McCain-Hot-Air video link to Glenn Beck.
Roy Beck from NumbersUSA should get in on this. He has an extensive email list of people upset over Amnesty-Shamnesty & the Dream Act. Wait till those people get a load of the McCain – Hernandez connection, funded by none other than Soros.
I wonder… Did Soros have anything to do with Keating 5, that we may have all missed? George may have had his hooks into McVain since back then in some sort of Faustian bargain.
Frankly, I think McCain cares more about Mexicans than Americans, he sure spends a lot more time defending them.
This is the current trend in American politics. Get elected on American votes and then, sell America out to whoever has a petro-dollar or a peso to spare.
Americans should realize that their politicians are lining up their and their famuly (yes, Bush and Clinton families are far richer, thanks to American voters) riches, while rhe same Amwericans, who voted them in, are looted, raped and murdered.
It is a sell-out on a national scale. One could even call it a National sell-out.
If there were any doubts about supporting Sen. (Shamnesty) McCain, the revelation that his National Director of Hispanic Outreach is Dr. Juan Hernandez, disreputable for his open borders stance (Mexican American population in the United States –all generations– “will think Mexico first…” … I want ‘em all to think Mexico first.” and “I work with the community in the United States, the Mexican community because I DON‘T WANT THEM ESSENTIALLY GOING NATIVE ON US. We want THEM CONTINUALLY TIED EMOTIONALLY, LINGUISTICALLY, POLITICALLY TO MEXICO, because then they‘ll continue to send money home.”)should erase any reservation thereof.
Truth be known, as a Vietnam Vet, McCain lost my respect (and any further support or consideration for higher office) when he “dissed the Swift Boat Vets for Truth in 2004 and condemned them and the book Unfit for Command before it was even published; basically told us Nam Vets to shut up, keep quiet and get over it and furthermore, defended his “good bud,” the traitorous, rat-bastard, SOB, John Kerry.
Whenever I’ve seen his (Hernandez’s) smarmy, condescending, putrid, pus on TV, I want to vomit and he is one of those who when you see them with that permanently-pasted smirk on this face, it makes one want to slap him up-side-the-head. Yeah, I know, another one of Kerry’s freaked-out, baby-killing, drug-induced, crazed, Vietnam Vet, acting in the ways of (as The Phony Traitor would say) Genjis Khan!
I can’t believe how wussified and PC-acting Rudi, Mitt and the Huckster are. This revelation (along with a mention of McPain having been endorsed by the N.Y. Times) should be all over the media in Florida as a campaign ad. So much for the Conservative movement and the chances that we will have anyone who (even if they prevail in November) will be anything other than a Bush-Lite, and God help us with the though of 4 more years of a “compassionate-conservative-RINO, serving as our Commander-in-Chief.
Thank you, Joan (and Michelle).
Spread the word.
For those of you considering sitting out this election if mcshammestity becomes the gop nominee; consider this:
a) Is your country not worth fighting for that you would be willing to give up one of your most precious freedoms to vote?
b) Is not the sacrifice that me and my friends paid for in blood, sweat and death worth the cost of your vote?
c) Consider this then; if you don’t vote, then please don’t bother to exercise your other constitutional rights such as the First or Second Amendment. Its best to be silent and be thought of as a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.If you didn’t vote, then don’t complain!
By all means, get out and vote. My choice is between Roomney and Huckabee, and will even consider voting the candiate that most of the conservative bloggers are considering. (hint-Sean Hannity)
GSP
Don’t worry too much gunslingerpatriot as a fellow veteran of 25 years active military service I will exercise the right I risked my life for too, but I will not vote for McCain should he be the nominee. The loudest message this retired and jaded SMSgt can give is “none of the above” as my write in candidate. I am reminded of the old poster we used to have in one of my flying squadrons the “last great act of defiance” with a field mice flipping off the hawk about to snatch him up in his talons.
Those elected to office no longer listen to or care about the wishes of the majority of this countries concern to enforce the rule of law over the open invasion from not just Mexico. We have plenty of illegal invaders from other 3rd world paradises I have had the misfortune to visit in my world travels and they also need to be shown the door to wait in line. Gives one a greater appreciation for the luxuries and freedoms most people take for granted in this country by seeing what others have to endure in life. If our elected officials don’t get their collective heads out of the butts soon they may very well see the electorate press the reset button provide for in the US Constitution’s Bill of Rights under the 2nd Amendment. Enraged and betrayed voters is one standing militia they do no want to face.
A vote for a liberal “Hillary-lite” is no vote for me. I will write in somebody before voting for McCain.
This amnesty crap from him is a travesty, and disqualifies him from being a true conservative. A spineless Republican, yes, but conservative, no. And he has too much company in Congress, on both sides of the aisle, sellouts that will barricade themselves in elite gated communities and let the rest of us fend for ourselves in the current invasion.
I have to vote, if for no other reason than to vote against Kerry, but my vote for Pres will go to Romney.
At least he tries to be a conservative.
Good! GOOD!
Everyone needs to do this kind of thing! E-mail O’Reilly and Hannity. E-mail and call-in every conservative talk radio show host you can think of. The MSM is pushing McCain down everyone’s throats and this Hernandez revelation needs to be communicated though the loudest branches of conservative media.
Have another topic you want to e-mail or talk about? Save it for tomorrow. Today is the eve of the Florida primary and today is McCain/Hernandez day.
Get out the word – while there’s still time!
Stop McCain!
I’m think it has a lot to do with our two-party system, granite. The Republicans in question feel like they can count on their hardcore conservatives to vote for them regardless, while they shift left to woo the moderates, which many times slaps their conservative base square in the face.
#66: On January 28th, 2008 at 8:49 am, Boomer said:
On January 28th, 2008 at 7:07 am, gunslingerpatriot said:
“If our elected officials don’t get their collective heads out of the butts soon they may very well see the electorate press the reset button provide for in the US Constitution’s Bill of Rights under the 2nd Amendment. Enraged and betrayed voters is one standing militia they do no want to face.”
That’s been on my mind for more than a few months, if not for a few years.
#69: On January 28th, 2008 at 10:07 am, Barry F. said:
“I’m think it has a lot to do with our two-party system, granite. The Republicans in question feel like they can count on their hardcore conservatives to vote for them regardless, while they shift left to woo the moderates, which many times slaps their conservative base square in the face.”
Correct.
I just am leery of multiple, splintered parties, and coalition governing.
My God, look at the ridiculous situation in Italy: nearly as many as, maybe more than, governments as years since WWII.
This happens in other countries, too; just no time right now to research specifically which ones.
I’m waiting for someone to call McCain on last years appropriation bill that gutted funding for the border fence. Anyone?