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That is small potatoes compared to what they’re wasting on star wars (totally useless)

lgm, I’m sure there is a lot of waste with star wars just as there is with any big government funded project, but calling it “totally useless” is a bit much. Have you been following the news about Pakistan lately? How about Iran, North Korea, or China? Or this from Russia:

Particular ominous in these new reports is that Putin has reportedly ordered Russian Military Forces to ‘First Strike’ capability against any NATO force that may seek to block Russia’s sea access to the Balkans and relief to the Serbs upon the outbreak of war.

It is not if, but when a rogue nuclear missle will be launched against us. Wouldn’t it be nice if we could shoot it down? How much is a major US city worth? How much is YOUR city worth?

Iraq (largely useless).

Unless you are a female in Iraq. Something liberals have a hard time wrapping their minds around is freedom (unless it is for law breakers in this country). Also something liberals have a hard time with: When Slick Willy was in office, it was the Dimocraps who were screaming the loudest about WMD’S in IRAQ.

I will give you this much, this is the best debate you and I have had. You keep trying and I like it. Also, you have yet to start a post with “MM said…, (followed by some smart arse remark)”. I like it.

Try again lgm. Placing 500 billion in earmarks then volunteering to remove 250 billion is NOT a 50% reduction.

lgm was not the source of these numbers. I googled for the actual numbers and found one source that said:

Despite ongoing controversy over their use, Congress’ year-end budget passed in December 2007 contains almost 9,000 earmarks. 2,658 of them representing $13.2 billion have been identified as “Pork Projects” by Citizens Against Government Waste, significantly lower than the numbers and dollar amounts of recent prior years: 13,997 “Pork Projects” for a total of $27.3 billion in 2005, and 9,963 projects for a total of $29 billion in 2006.

Two interesting here: (1) earmarking did go down under Democrats, though not as far as we would like (i.e. to zero). (2) Even the biggest Republican year has only $29B. That is small potatoes compared to what they’re wasting on star wars (totally useless), Iraq (largely useless).

The omnibus spending bill included:

• Olive fruit fly research in France: $213,000
• Center for Grape Genetics in Geneva, N.Y.: $1.9 million
• Fish-waste research in Alaska: $2.5 million
• Awning renovations in Roanoke, Va.: $250,000
• Cormorant control in Vermont, Michigan, Mississippi and New York: $1.2 million

Not to mention the olive fruit fly and fish-waste research, but awning renovations?

Is there somewhere we can see where this money actually went. Do the American taxpayers get to see where the bills were paid and what exactly for. Does anyone know?

LOL Barry. lgm is a math teacher (at least according to his site) and he cannot figure out simple math let alone fuzzy math.

Well, there you go.

And to praise Nancy Pelosi, that piece of work? Has he gone mad?

Politics make strange bed-fellows, and Pelosi is the #1 who-, er uh, bed operator right now that everyone must, mmm, shall we say satisfy to get anything done. So if he must stroke her ego to get this anywhere (I wouldn’t bet a nickel on it), it’s a small price to pay.

Placing 500 billion in earmarks then volunteering to remove 250 billion is NOT a 50% reduction.

I think it is some of that “fuzzy math” the NEA and the like are pushing for kids in the public schools now, Soap.

Well, I guess 1 year of 8 is better than 0 years of 8.

Republicans probably will stick with earmark reform like they stuck with paygo (you can’t increase spending somewhere without paying for it by cutting somewhere else or raising taxes). It was great for Democrats, but they dropped it in the first five minutes of the Bush administration and proceeded to have the biggest deficit-fest in the history of the world.