Code Pink: “If it weren’t for people like the people in Berkeley, standing up for what they believe, we’d be living under Hitler”

By Michelle Malkin  •  February 1, 2008 10:33 AM

The moonbats are upping the ante and pouring gallons of fresh fuel on their anti-military fire in Berkeley. Following on the heels of the Berkeley City Council’s move to grant them special parking privileges and free sound permits to protest the Marine recruiting center, Code Pinkos held a mock debate at the recruitment office. Medea Benjamin gloated (via Daily Cal):

A local activist group drew a crowd of 50 onlookers yesterday when they staged a mock debate against a military recruiting office in Downtown Berkeley.

Although conservative radio talk show host Melanie Morgan was originally scheduled to participate, she was ultimately replaced by a member of activist group Code Pink pretending to espouse conservative views.

Issues ranged from the congressional race between Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan to the military presence in Berkeley.

“We are the defenders of democracy, the upholders of the Constitution,” said Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink. “If it weren’t for people like the people in Berkeley, standing up for what they believe, we’d be living under Hitler.”

A few e-mailers wonder if a pro-life group should apply for parking privileges and free sound permits in order to protest outside one of Berkeley’s abortion clinics.

Anyone up for a constitutional challenge? Maybe it’s time for some public interest law firms to join the American Legion and Sen. DeMint in the growing backlash.

One Berkeley City Councilwoman now says she’s “ashamed” of her vote. Idiot:

The vote to award the Code Pink parking spot was 8-1, and the condemnation resolution was 6-3. On Thursday, the polarized emotions that went into those votes had not abated.

“I’m ashamed of my vote,” said Councilwoman Betty Olds, who helped approve the parking spot but not the condemnation. “The protesters should have free speech – this is where Free Speech was born, after all – but to tell the Marines they are not welcome is shameful. If I had to do it again, I wouldn’t even go for the parking spot.”

The Berkeley Daily Planet reports on the one dissenter who voted against awarding the parking spot to Code Pink:

The question of dedicating space—a parking space—for Code Pink’s weekly demonstrations in front of the downtown Berkeley Marine Recruiting Center (MRC) raised hackles at Tuesday night’s Berkeley City Council meeting, when Councilmember Gordon Wozniak likened the demonstrations there to protests at abortion clinics.

“There’s a line between protesting and harassing,” Wozniak said, referring to possible harassment of recruits.

Wozniak was the lone vote in opposition to a resolution authored by Councilmembers Linda Maio and Max Anderson designating a parking space in front of the recruiting center for the demonstrators from noon to 4 p.m. every Wednesday for six months.

The dedicated parking space “is showing favoritism to one side of the argument,” Wozniak said, adding, “My concern is giving a parking space in front of the Marine Recruiting Center seems confrontational.”

While Dori Schmidt, whose husband owns The Berkeley Review, a test preparation business above the MRC, told the council that the demonstrations disrupt the business with their noise, other public speakers supported the parking space designation.

“It’s not favoritism,” said PhoeBe Sorgen, a member of Code Pink and the Berkeley Fellowship of Unitarian Universalists Social Justice Committee. Rather, it’s following the Berkeley “tradition to stand up for peace,” she said.

More:

The debate follows Tuesday’s City Council decision to grant Code Pink a parking spot in front of the military recruitment center on Shattuck Avenue, facilitating the ongoing protests. Another resolution passed by the City Council directed the city manager to send a letter to the U.S. Marine Corps informing them that they are “uninvited and unwelcome intruders” in Berkeley. PhoeBe sorgen, a Code Pink activist and member of the city’s Peace and Justice Commission, said the resolutions were supportive of the group’s continued resistance and showed the city was taking an official stand against the center. Code Pink has staged protests against the center on Shattuck every Wednesday since Sept. 26.
At the debate, local activists and Code Pink members also promoted a proposed initiative for the November elections that would require the center to obtain a special use permit to remain in Berkeley. Yesterday’s debate was only one of many steps to remove the recruitment center from Berkeley, Joi said. “We’ll be here as long as they’re here,” she said.

Decent citizens of Berkeley, speak now or forever hold your peace.

This stain is going to be indelible.

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Contact info:

Mayor – Tom Bates
2180 Milvia Street, Berkeley, CA 94704
Email: mayor@ci.berkeley.ca.us
TEL: (510) 981-7100
FAX: (510) 981-7199
TDD: (510) 981-6903
Office Hours: Mon-Fri 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.

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CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
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Linda Maio
Phone: (510) 981-7110
FAX: (510) 981-7111
Email: lmaio@ci.berkeley.ca.us

Darryl Moore
Phone: (510) 981-7120
Email: dmoore@ci.berkeley.ca.us

Maxwell Anderson
Phone: (510) 981-7130
Email: manderson@ci.berkeley.ca.us

Dona Spring
Phone: (510) 981-7140
Email: spring@ci.berkeley.ca.us

Laurie Capitelli
Phone: (510) 981-7150
Email: lcapitelli@ci.berkeley.ca.us

Betty Olds
Phone: (510) 981-7160
Email: olds@ci.berkeley.ca.us

Kriss Worthington
Phone: (510) 981-7170
Email: kworthington@ci.berkeley.ca.us

Gordon Wozniak
Phone: (510) 981-7180
Email: GWozniak@ci.berkeley.ca.us

City Auditor
Ann Marie
TEL: (510) 981-6750, TDD: (510) 981-6903
Office Hours: Mon-Fri, 8am-5pm
Email: auditor@ci.berkeley.ca.us

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An e-mail from a recruiter:

I am a recruiter in the GA Army National Guard. I just read your story on Berkeley and am at a loss for words. As a successful recruiter in Athens, GA, I want to tell you thanks for exposing this horrible city, and that although it seems to be a disease spreading throughout the country, I have had positive experiences in my area. In fact, most of my soldiers have come through the high schools that I recruit for. Hopefully some of the “big brass” will do the right thing and cut federal funds to the city. Again thanks and keep up the good work.

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  1. #232948
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:37 am, Laree said:

    You know we insisted that Iraq de-bathitize their government, why can’t we do the same for our country via socialist?

  2. #232955
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:42 am, NeoConNews said:

    The delusion is strong with this one.

  3. #232956
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:42 am, procopy said:

    If it weren’t for the US Armed Forces, Berkeleyites would be speaking German, and Code Pink would be non-existant.

  4. #232958
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:42 am, Just A Grunt said:

    “I’m ashamed of my vote,” said Councilwoman Betty Olds, who helped approve the parking spot but not the condemnation. “The protesters should have free speech – this is where Free Speech was born,

    That is going to be news to the Founding Fathers.

  5. #232961
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:43 am, NascarFan70 said:

    I sent an email last night telling them that they disgust me and they make me want to vomit. I also told them that my Dad served in Vietnam. he is probably rolling over in his grave right about now seeing this happen out there in Pinky land.

  6. #232962
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:43 am, CarpiJugulum said:

    After reading about this last night. I proudly sent them my e-mail. Titled it “your patriotism is in question”.

    Every one on the list of provided recieved my email.

    I whole heartedly support the withdrawl of all FEDERAL AID to this ridiculous farce that Berekly has become. I am contacting Tom Tancredo about this and asking him what he plans to do about this.

    I for one am calling for not only federal aid be stopped but a boycott of the city its self. In todays world one can no longer just take morons to the wood shed. You have to go after what hurts them the most. Despite their communistic ways , at heart they are hard core capitalist and if they loose money then they open their eyes.

    I think we should apply for a parade permit on the upcoming 4th. Invite all military past and present, get a fly over from either the Thunderbirds or the Blue Angles. Show these self serving, attention begging, spoiled bratts that America LOVES ITS MILITARY.

  7. #232965
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:44 am, purplepeep said:

    “If it weren’t for people like the people in Berkeley, standing up for what they believe, we’d be living under Hitler”

    I thought Bush is Hitler in their bizzaro world. They should get their narravtive in sync, lest people think they’re mentally unstable or something.

  8. #232966
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:44 am, rightside said:

    Medusa Benjamin isn’t fit to carry the sweaty jockstrap of the greenest Marine.

  9. #232967
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:44 am, Your Brother John said:

    H*tler was a socialist just like you Berkeley folks, and you both have innocent blood on your hands.

  10. #232968
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:45 am, terrig said:

    Old Betty has got it wrong. There have been protests since before our Revolution. I guess too many drugs do fry ones brain.
    I am waiting to hear what our presidential candidates have to say about this. Republicans and Dims. The silence is deafening.

  11. #232972
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:49 am, purplepeep said:

    CarpiJugulum said:
    I am contacting Tom Tancredo about this and asking him what he plans to do about this.

    That’s good, CarpiJug, but perhaps an additional option would be to flood the GOP/Dem Prez candidates with like messages. Put them on the spot, ask where they stand and what are they going to do about this.

  12. #232974
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:50 am, sfcmac said:

    It’s BERKELEY, folks. Big surprise.

  13. #232975
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:51 am, 509th Bob said:

    Pull out ALL of the federal employees from the entire region, including the Marines. Then, after the overdue “Big One” (8.0 or better on the Richter Scale) reduces the area to rubble, REFUSE all federal aid (of any and every kind) to the area.

    This whole leftist meme of “Unpatriotism is the highest form of Patriotism” makes me sick.

  14. #232978
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:53 am, uhangtight said:

    We are the defenders of democracy, the upholders of the Constitution,” said Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink. “If it weren’t for people like the people in Berkeley, standing up for what they believe, we’d be living under Hitler.”

    No, Medea, you’re mistaken. That is the Military’s job. Now, move over and let them get the job done! You and your ilk are the little Hitlers of today.

  15. #232981
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:57 am, walterc said:

    Pass the word to gangbangers, thugs, organized criminals etc, that the city of Berkley is open ground. The military isn’t welcome, and it’s doubtful the police dept could keep up with a major crime spree.

    When the city is under siege and the police and fire departments are overwhelmed, the Governor can remind them of this vote when they beg for help from the National Guard.

  16. #232983
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:58 am, Pulchritudinous Patriot said:

    The Lex Luther plan looks better and better every day.

  17. #232986
    On February 1st, 2008 at 10:59 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    They did not learn from the last time they went after this recruitment office, suffice it to say, they’ll never learn. But they will learn that they do not have the power that they think they have. Our military does not cut and run. They will not tuck their tails and be thwarted by Code Pink…imagine that for a Friday laugh.

    I don’t want to make light of their antics but in the grand scheme of things what they want and what they will get are two completely different things. Let’s get em boys… and girls.

  18. #232987
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:00 am, graysonret said:

    You Code Pink people are NOT the defenders of democracy. You are the defenders of anarchy. I sincerely doubt any of you have even bothered to read the Constitution. Do you all have any idea of what it is? Or is your history “assumed”, by whatever you think it is, or taught by very liberal teachers. Really, who are you all kidding?

  19. #232992
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:05 am, USMCgramma said:

    I e-mailed the mayor and asked if the “us” in his e-mail address stood for United States. God willing, our grandson will be back in the states from 2nd Iraq tour in a couple days. God bless our military, past and present. Semper Fi

  20. #232996
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:09 am, cpodug said:

    509th Bob, please be careful what you wish for. You have absolutely no idea the widespread devastation and havoc an 8.0 earthquake would have, not only on Berkeley, but on the ENTIRE UNITED STATES! IT would make all of the devastation during the entire second world war look like a single house fire by comparison.

    Would you condemn the innocent for the actions of a few immature children? That’s what they are – immature children, playing dress-up and trying to call attention to themselves.

    There are many quiet, law-abiding citizens of Berkeley, and for that matter, the Bay Area and all of California who completely disagree with these morons who pretend to be leaders. Unfortunately, over the years, they’ve gotten so used to the outrageous statements and actions of their elected leaders that they tend to ignore them.

    Please, folks – it’s hard enough to listen to the drivel coming from these people without stooping to their level. Send them an e-mail, call them, let it be known that you disapprove of their actions, yes. But be something they aren’t – civil and polite. Don’t get into name calling with them, or use profanity or other kinds of sick abuse you’d expect from them.

    My sense is that most of them have never been outside their own city, or at the most, CONUS, and have never set foot in a country where this kind of action is not only unwelcome, but punishable by imprisonment or even death. Traitors they may well be(and I have to be very careful of what I say on this subject, lest I be banned from MM for my opinion) but they are nevertheless entitled to their freedom of speech, regardless of whether or not they allow me the same courtesy. I spent the majority of my adult life to ensure they have that right, as I’m sure many others on this site, and other sites have.

    Remember that you are talking about human beings here – when you call down earthquakes on them, there will be significant “collateral damage.”

    Yes, by all means, withhold Federal funds, and even State funds from the city, but remember this: if a disaster does happen, we are obligated to do whatever is within our power to help.

    When duty calls, we must answer. It’s part of our make-up. Condemn the leaders and moonbats to your hearts’ content, but please – confine your wrath to them.

  21. #233000
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:09 am, nyc123me said:

    I suggest one of these idiots actually READ the Constitution they claim to uphold – they’ll find THEY are the Nazis denying others their Constitutional rights. The sooner someone grows some balls and starts throwing these seditious traitors in jail for inciting anti-government and anti-American actions, the better. Ugly, nasty, vindictive, self-serving attention whores.

  22. #233004
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:14 am, lgm said:

    If you think (as has been said here many times) that Clinton and Kerry are Hitler, why can’t someone on the other side say Bush is Hitler? Note the recent book “Liberal Fascists” that says the whole Democratic party is Mussolini. It’s like a Halloween party of bad guy costumes.

  23. #233006
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:15 am, nyc123me said:

    #2 NeoConNews “The delusion is strong with this one.”

    ROFLMAO nice one Yoda :)

  24. #233007
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:15 am, Cameron said:

    I just fired off a thank you note to Gordon Wozniak. Don’t know what his personal beliefs are towards the military but at least he voted against this. I have a feeling he’ll need to know that some folks appreciate how he voted once the hate mail starts.

  25. #233008
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:15 am, purplepeep said:

    cpodug said:
    509th Bob, please be careful what you wish for. You have absolutely no idea the widespread devastation and havoc an 8.0 earthquake would have,

    That’s why a tactical nuke is much more neat (after we evacuate the Americans from the area first, of course).

  26. #233009
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:15 am, OneofThem said:

    “If it weren’t for people like the people in Berkeley, standing up for what they believe, we’d be living under Hitler.”

    Too true, but guess how we stood up for what we believed in when Hitler threatened it? We used the military you hate so much. *gasp* You didn’t know?

    Man, those Pinkos need to take a logic course.

  27. #233010
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:15 am, formerwm said:

    From the Hall’s of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli….Berkeley City Councel? My bet is on the Marines. They never back down…nor leave anyone behind!

  28. #233011
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:16 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    This stain is going to be indelible.

    Too late.

    At least they chose the proper stain color for the communists that they are – pink.

  29. #233012
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:17 am, dave_r said:

    What could they do if that parking spot was otherwise unavailable, like if someone was “standing” in their car in that space from 9 to 5 on Wednesdays? I’m tempted to drive to California and have a shot at it, but perhaps other patriots might be interested in coordinating such an endeavour…

  30. #233019
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:20 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    said Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink. “If it weren’t for people like the people in Berkeley, standing up for what they believe, we’d be living under Hitler.”

    They left the part out in my history book about the Code Pink army in WWII. I know, I will google it. I mean, if it was THEIR efforts, we should be able to find the histroy behind it – right? RIGHT???

  31. #233020
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:21 am, sunandsteel said:

    Dirty hippies.

  32. #233021
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:22 am, katieanne said:

    It’s a very sad state of affairs that so many people have no grasp of our country’s history and appreciation for what our military has and continues to provide for us. I think this battle in Berkeley is one the entire country has to fight and participate in. Enough is enough. We will never allow our military to be treated as it was in the 60’s again. We must all stand tall and fight the traitors in Berkeley.

    We need to get organized. What should those of us who live outside of California do other than email our senators? If donations to a group who is going to fight these monsters will help, just tell me where to send the money.

    Again, where is Pelosi and the governor? Why are they not standing up for the Marines?

  33. #233023
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:23 am, terrig said:

    Don’t feed the troll.

  34. #233024
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:23 am, Blind_Mule said:

    Will someone please take the LSD away from these people because they are obviously tripping on phsycodelic’s. OOoooo look at the pretty pink. :lol:

  35. #233025
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:24 am, sunandsteel said:

    said Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink. “If it weren’t for people like the people in Berkeley, standing up for what they believe, we’d be living under Hitler.”

    I doubt prancing around like a bunch of fools, telling the rest of the world how evil the USA is, or showing your “lady” parts would have persuaded Hitler not to take over the USA.

    My money says the Pinkos would have gone in the oven first.

  36. #233028
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:27 am, Blind_Mule said:
  37. #233031
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:29 am, fourstringfuror said:

    Mrs. Malkin –

    Can you tell me if the condemnation vote was passed 8-1 or 6-3? The DeMint post from earlier this morning has it 8-1. Do we know who the three brave dissenters were?

  38. #233033
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:30 am, LuxEternam said:

    What makes me sick, is that if the City of Berkeley was attacked, it would be those same Marines that they are protesting, that would without question stand between the Berkeley City Council members and their attackers and defend them to the death.

    And the City Council would whine that they didn’t do their jobs well enough.

  39. #233035
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:33 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Today’s Friday!

    I’ve sent my thank you email to Mr. Wozniak and I have left the others know of my feelings towards their “yes” votes. All civil and respectful of course.

  40. #233037
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:33 am, sunandsteel said:

    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:30 am, LuxEternam said:
    What makes me sick, is that if the City of Berkeley was attacked, it would be those same Marines that they are protesting, that would without question stand between the Berkeley City Council members and their attackers and defend them to the death.

    And the City Council would whine that they didn’t do their jobs well enough.

    Ive said many times that people like this would be the first ones crying for military help if terrorists or other enemies attacked them.

  41. #233039
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:34 am, terrig said:

    Blind Mule, loved the comic!

  42. #233040
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:36 am, gandolphxx said:

    Dear Medea, with all due respect your ancestors in the old country wound up living and dying under Hitler for the stupidity that you espouse.

  43. #233042
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:38 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    They rubber stamped and validated the Code Pinkos abilities to trample on the rights of others. The last time I checked enlisting the US Armed Forces was a totally and completely voluntary act. CP thinks they are protecting potential enlistees from harm by stepping on their right to serve their country. Amazing. They somehow know what you want for your life better than you do.

    This isn’t about the war, Bush or Republicans, though, they make sure they mention it everytime they open their mouths. This is about the freedom of others to live their lives as they see fit. But of course, liberals aren’t able to recognize this if it isn’t about abortion and sex.

    If I want to enlist in the US Armed Forces, that’s my CHOICE. Not Code Pink’s.

  44. #233045
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:40 am, nyc123me said:

    A large load of manure dumped on said parking spot late on a Tuesday night would be interesting.

  45. #233047
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:41 am, sunandsteel said:

    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:40 am, nyc123me said:
    A large load of manure dumped on said parking spot late on a Tuesday night would be interesting.

    Wasn’t that the point of the permit? So a large load of manure could be put there weekly?

  46. #233051
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:43 am, Crash_Test_Dhimmi said:

    If you have to be cleared Psychologically fit to own a handgun, then shouldnt you also have to prove your psychological fitness to govern? How about mental health screenings before ANYONE can hold a position in the government. That should de-baath/socialist our government sufficiently.

  47. #233053
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:44 am, DLWright said:

    “PhoeBe”? Gag.

  48. #233055
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:45 am, berkeleythurm said:

    I’ve already e-mailed Tom Bates and gave him a piece of my mind (without invective I assure you Michelle) :) and will definitely tell each student on campus that I know to take similar action.

  49. #233056
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:46 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:40 am, nyc123me said:
    A large load of manure dumped on said parking spot late on a Tuesday night would be interesting.

    Redundant and a waiste of good manure.

  50. #233070
    On February 1st, 2008 at 11:56 am, BrianNY said:

    #30 said:

    They left the part out in my history book about the Code Pink army in WWII. I know, I will google it. I mean, if it was THEIR efforts, we should be able to find the histroy behind it – right? RIGHT???

    Oh you didn’t hear about that? It seems that Code Pink singlehandedly beat back Hitler from North Africa, up through Italy, then crossed the English Channel into France, then Belgium, crossed into Germany (got pushed back into Belgium for a month) and then just flattened the punk. While this was happening, the Code Pink “air wing” was continuously bombarding German cities from the skies, while their Moscow chapter was steamrolling the fascists from the east.

    Tough SOBs, those Code Pinkos are. They wear funny uniforms, but at least we’re not speaking German today.

  51. #233076
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:03 pm, Boomer said:

    Unfortunately Bezerkly has the local government they deserve. Recreational drugs really do rot the brain.

  52. #233079
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:04 pm, yohannbiimu said:

    “We are the defenders of democracy, the upholders of the Constitution,” said Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink. “If it weren’t for people like the people in Berkeley, standing up for what they believe, we’d be living under Hitler.”

    Wow! Every portion of this utterance is Fascist-like propaganda–it sounds noble, but it’s filled with lies and is intellectually vacant.

    First of all, the Constitution is worthless if there is no provision for the protection of our nation militarily, which is what United States Marines (the oldest military institution we have) does for us.

    Which brings us to the assursion that we’d all be German-speaking, 45-degree-stiff-arm saluting, seig-hailing Nazis if there weren’t people merely “standing up for what they believe.”

    This is the most hilariously ridicuous statement I believe I’ve ever heard from these witless goons. Our freedom of speech and assembly had NOTHING to do with saving us from Hitler’s dream of World domination–that was accomplished by heading off forces bent upon enslaving humanity with STRONGER forces that eventually forced the Nazis to recant and submit.

    It was brave and noble young men with heart, guts, and the equipment and tools necessary to fight with that saved
    the World from Hitler’s evil. Code Pink’s agenda gives all the appearance that they’re regretful for the efforts of those military efforts.

  53. #233084
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:08 pm, JohnnyD said:

    As Mrs. Malkin pointed out here, she has family in the area. Tactical nukes and 8.0 earthquakes will affect them just as much as The Pinkos. (I do like the idea of a load of manure.) So please refrain from that kind of widespread retribution. Maybe a large dark cloud raining heavily whilst the Pinkos are protesting would be more likable (esp. if they haven’t had a bath in a while), with lots of lightening too!

    I certainly understand the sentiment though. I would like nothing better than to steamroll them out of the way. Of course my Free Speech rights wouldn’t matter if they thought I was trying to stifle theirs. Cough, Cough!!

  54. #233085
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:09 pm, Gregor said:

    I’m wondering how long it’s going to take before we have a President who has the balls to tell cities like this that the military will no longer protect them.

    The President should hold a prime time press conference, and tell the world that cities like this are no longer under the protection of the Federal government. They’re on their own. Let them have exactly what they want. No military. No guns. No federal government of ANY kind. They’re 100% on their own. See how long THAT lasts before they understand how wrong their views really are.

  55. #233088
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:11 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    #4, If it weren’t for the US Armed Forces, Berkeleyites would be speaking German Japanese, and Code Pink would be non-existant the world’s oldest and ugliest J-Pop group.

    There, fixed it for you… ;)

  56. #233091
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:13 pm, JoeRed said:

    Berkeley Convention & Visitor Bureau Calendar of Events

    I wonder if any of these people/groups are aware of what Berkeley is doing. If not they should be informed, no?
    Just to give them the opportunity to decide whether they want to hold their events there.

  57. #233094
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:14 pm, graysonret said:

    I could just see Code Pink in WW2…marching down Penn. Avenue flying nazi and Japanese flags. LOL. They would have speeches demanding US withdrawal from Africa and Italy, plus the Solomons and Australia. Code Pinker Jane Fonda would be on her way (somehow) to Tokyo…to visit POWs. Cindy Sheehan, Sean Penn, and others would be “consulting” with the Vichy government. Plus, harboring draft dodgers too. That’s the real picture, Ms. Benjamin. That’s what you really are.

  58. #233096
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:16 pm, DBNinKY said:

    After nearly six years of bellyaching about the war in Iraq, after raising and spending tens of thousands of dollars on protests and media air-time to air their grievances over the war, after traveling thousands of miles to march on Washington, DC and speak with our representatives on pulling out of Iraq, after all the mass mailings and tearful pleas with the public to help end the war, after having invested all this time and effort – a lousy parking spot in Berkeley is all they have to show for it.

    Justice is truly sweet!

  59. #233099
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:21 pm, bit_boy said:

    It makes me want to cry that these Code Pinkers had an equal opportunity for an education and it did not take. Perhaps they are degenerates, or perhaps they are brain damaged, but what ever the problem they are severely disadvantaged. They seem to be little more than dysfunctional carbon units who march to their own fuhrer.

  60. #233100
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:21 pm, John Ansell said:

    we’d be living under Hitler”

    At leat they know their place in society!

  61. #233101
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:22 pm, jimC said:

    lgm,

    You’ve got it wrong about the book. The author was simply making the point that facism is not a right wing ideology. It’s actually a left wing ideology. That is fact.

    As far as calling President Bush “hitler”, I dont’t really care if you call him hitler or peter pan, but don’t pretend to be offended when we question your patriotism when you do the sorts of treasonous things that code pink is doing.

    Jim C

  62. #233102
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:23 pm, Barry F. said:

    That is going to be news to the Founding Fathers.

    I bet they would be shocked to hear that, Grunt.

  63. #233105
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:24 pm, Gregor said:

    The weak kneed cowardly lack of response from Bush is disgusting and that whole thing in Vermont, where the city council voted to have Bush and Cheney ARRESTED for war crimes if they ever step foot in their city? That’s TREASON!

    Bush doesn’t say a word about it. I’m just as sick of Bush as I am with the traitors themselves.

  64. #233106
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:26 pm, nbarry said:

    One would think, given Berkeley’s politics, that the Marine recruiter would be as lonely as the Maytag repairman, even without offensive demonstrations. Given the need for cost effectiveness in government, let him relocate outside the city limits where the prospects of success would be greater. Just my humble opinion.

  65. #233108
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:27 pm, TexasTiger said:

    Suggestion for MM:

    How about a reader poll with the following questions:

    1) Which presidential candidate do you think would be more likely to face down the Berkeley City Council?
    -Hillary
    -McCain
    -Both
    -Neither

    2) In the event of a Clinton-McCain pairing in the general election, which presidential candidate would you vote for?
    -Hillary
    -McCain
    -Neither, I’ll sit it out.

  66. #233109
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:30 pm, 509th Bob said:

    cpodug – I grew up in Southern California, rode out the 7.2 Sylmar quake as a teen, observed what the 7.0 World Series quake, etc. I have a pretty fair idea of what an 8 pointer would do (note to others, the Richter Scale is logrithmic, so an 8 is ten times worse than a 7, and a hundred times worse than a 6, etc.). I do not wish harm on the law abiding normal people (which is an assumption I hold lightly) of San Francisco, but I view them as silent co-conspirators in this entire mess because they are the ones who elect and re-elect the idiots we read about so often. As for the refusal to provide post-disaster federal relief, I’m simply not willing to provide it until they (the supposed normal people of the SF area) act responsibly and elect a responsible group of local officials.

  67. #233113
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:31 pm, vickisoup said:

    nyc123me said:
    A large load of manure dumped on said parking spot late on a Tuesday night would be interesting.

    I like it. Wait. Maybe a load of styrofoam popcorn. Can you imagine the outcry from the environuts?? OK, I’m sorry. I got excited. :roll:

  68. #233114
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:31 pm, SHoward said:

    Jim C, you nailed it.

    As one examines the political spectrum in our country, when moving to the left you get more government, to the right, less.

    Hitler was about more government. All socialists and genuine fascists are, because more control is required to enforce socialism and fascism on a population.

    Ergo: The political left in this country is far closer to Hitler than Bush will ever be. (Even though Bush is hardly a genuine political “right-winger.”)

    Oh, yeah, Code Pink = Radically far left. Ergo, radically closer to Hitler.

  69. #233117
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:33 pm, yohannbiimu said:

    You’ve got it wrong about the book. The author was simply making the point that facism is not a right wing ideology. It’s actually a left wing ideology. That is fact.

    This is absolutely correct. Be it Fascist Socialism or Nazi Socialism, or Soviet Bolshivik Socialism, it all stems from the same social and fiscal ideolgy. They all want an all-powerful centralized government that regulates every aspect of the lives of its citizens.

    The main differences are that the Nazis’ focus was nationalistic, and the Bolshivik Communists were international. Apart from this, there’s no difference in their policies. Hitler enslaved and killed only certain races and people who they found socially unacceptible, and the Bolshiviks enslaved and killed EVERYBODY, regradless of race or creed.

  70. #233119
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:35 pm, Barry F. said:

    …Note the recent book “Liberal Fascists” that says the whole Democratic party is Mussolini…

    I didn’t take it that he was implying the “whole Democratic party” is a bunch of Liberal Fascists – just some of them.

  71. #233120
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:36 pm, mojo said:

    Caltrops.

  72. #233121
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:36 pm, Mixer14 said:

    I don’t know about dumping manure on the CP parking space – but painting a Nazi flag on the space would be my first choice (with a pink background, of course).

  73. #233123
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:37 pm, ACHefty said:

    First of all, that wasn’t a debate, not even a “mock” debate. It was a press conference. Code Pink isn’t engaging in free speech. That is government-subsidized coercion.

    Finally, I have an idea for my fellow Marines who are tasked with recruiting from the Planet California: If they hold their protests from Noon to 4 on Wednesdays, then that is the perfect time to draw the shades, lock the doors, and go do some field work.

    Speak to some youngsters at school. Run a charity fitness camp. Get a good nap. Grab lunch with a Marine returning from war.

  74. #233124
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:40 pm, yohannbiimu said:

    2) In the event of a Clinton-McCain pairing in the general election, which presidential candidate would you vote for?
    -Hillary
    -McCain
    -Neither, I’ll sit it out.

    I’ll vote for my representative and other state and local people, but I WON’T vote for McCain. I’ll vote for some silly-nilly nobody with no hope to get 100,000 votes nationwide before I’ll give this pandering liberal my vote.

    It’s sad, really, that John McCain has become what he is. His service to our country is admirable, but his liberal views and ideas are repugnant. I am infuriated by his dirty campaign tactics. Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave.

  75. #233127
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:51 pm, DesertLover said:

    Code Pinkos said:

    “If it weren’t for people like the people in Berkeley, NOT standing up for what they believe, Code Pink couldn’t exist.”

    Just had to fix that headline …

  76. #233133
    On February 1st, 2008 at 12:56 pm, mojo said:

    Maybe the Berkeley recruiting station needs a new doorman, huh?

  77. #233141
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:02 pm, max said:

    We They are the defenders of democracy, the upholders of the Constitution,” said Medea Benjamin, co-founder of Code Pink. “If it weren’t for people like the people in Berkeley, the United States Armed Forces standing up for what they believe, we’d be living under Hitler.”

    just had to clarify …

  78. #233144
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:06 pm, dm60462 said:

    Dear laughing stock of the nation:

    We are not going to kick you out, but be aware that if you in Berkley choose to stay in the United States, you do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests.

  79. #233145
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:06 pm, misterbee241 said:

    “Gentlemen cry, peace! peace! but there is no peace. Is peace so dear and life so sweet, it is to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God!”

    Anybody know who said this?

  80. #233147
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:07 pm, BOB said:

    I hope the Marines park a Hummer, (or better yet, a tank), in the code pink parking spot, whether there is a vehicle already there, or not.

  81. #233148
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:08 pm, kevkersey said:

    Now I’m confused. The looney left doesn’t want the military to recruit in Berkeley. But I thought they “support” our military and they love the troops. Or do they just say that to make us think they love this country, when in fact, they would be quite happy living under a dictator like their beloved Castro or Chavez.

    It reminds me of the pictures of the anti-war marches during Viet Nam, when some of these same people were proudly carrying the Viet Cong flag. It made me realize, they weren’t against the war, they were against America WINNING the war.

    Just like now.

  82. #233152
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:11 pm, kevkersey said:

    “Gentlemen cry, peace! peace! but there is no peace. Is peace so dear and life so sweet, it is to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God!”

    Anybody know who said this?

    The same man that said this:

    Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

  83. #233153
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:12 pm, max said:

    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:06 pm, misterbee241 said:
    “Gentlemen cry, peace! peace! but there is no peace. Is peace so dear and life so sweet, it is to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God!”

    Anybody know who said this

    That would be none other than your Patrick “Give me liberty or give me death!” Henry but of course!

  84. #233165
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:20 pm, jrlingreenbay said:

    A few people that need to be asked their opinion of this situation:

    Nancy Pelosi
    Barbara Boxer
    Arnold Schwarzenegger
    Obama
    Hillary
    McCain
    Romney
    Harry Reid

    See who gives the straightest, most honest answer….

  85. #233166
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:20 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:06 pm, dm60462 said:
    Dear laughing stock of the nation:

    We are not going to kick you out, but be aware that if you in Berkley choose to stay in the United States, you do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests.

    Okay – that made me LOL!!!

  86. #233167
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:22 pm, JoAnn in VA said:

    The number for the Berkeley Recruiters station is 510-705-8060. I got the number from the “Meca” site which tells people to protest and to call daily telling the Marines that they are not welcome. Heh heh heh. I don’t think that my message of “God bless all of you, and don’t give up- there are a lot of us who are proud of you and know the debt we all owe” was exactly the message that they wanted me to convey though.

    Tough.

    I wonder if a daily “God bless” type phone call would be welcomed or would block people trying to join though? Do you think the recruiters would mind?

  87. #233168
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:24 pm, nyc123me said:

    I’ve emailed my thoughts to all the council members, I urge everyone else to do the same.

  88. #233171
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:26 pm, Barry F. said:

    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:06 pm, dm60462 said:

    Dear laughing stock of the nation:

    We are not going to kick you out, but be aware that if you in Berkley choose to stay in the United States, you do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests.

    ROFLMAO

    I like that. But, I would change the last word to “intruders”, just to keep it in their frame of mind. We wouldn’t want them to get confused or anything. ;-)

  89. #233172
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:26 pm, nyc123me said:

    #86 JoAnn – can you please post that link – I will gladly report it to the local telecommunications provider – there ARE laws against abuse of telecommunications devices, and this is a clear one. Perhaps a hefty fine will make them think twice about abusing the constitutional rights of others.

  90. #233174
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:27 pm, John Ansell said:

    It’s sad, really, that John McCain has become what he is. His service to our country is admirable, but his liberal views and ideas are repugnant. I am infuriated by his dirty campaign tactics. Ronald Reagan is spinning in his grave.

    I wondered why the wind was kicking up here in California.

  91. #233176
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:27 pm, Barry F. said:

    Call the protesters and give them a phone protest in favor of the Marines.

    Let them be annoyed for a while, like they are doing our service personnel.

  92. #233182
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:36 pm, jwm said:

    I wrote to Wozniak and told him about how wrong I thought this is. Then I called the Recruiter and told the Sargeant that there are people in the Bay Area who support them and appreciate their service. For those of you who don’t know, Sempher Pi means Always faithful. Let’s be faithful to those who are serving our country.
    J.W. Matney
    U.S. Navy
    1974-1978

  93. #233185
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:38 pm, fourstringfuror said:

    I have done my civic duty and given the council a piece of my mind. I hope you all will do the same.

    Anyone received a response yet?

  94. #233187
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:39 pm, nyc123me said:

    CNN reporting that the latest bombings at two pet markets in Baghdad (where many children are), were allegedly carried out by two mentally retarded women who were strapped with explosives and blown up by remote control by militants terrorists after being sent into the markets. These are Code Pink’s idols.

  95. #233190
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:41 pm, nyc123me said:

    #93 fourstringfuror – no response here either – although the most I realistically expect is to be added onto their mailing list.

  96. #233191
    On February 1st, 2008 at 1:41 pm, JoAnn in VA said:

    Sure thing! http://eventful.com/events/east-bay/community-meca-cost-of-war-iraq-children-action-marine-recruiting-station-/E0-001-007833618-9 The part abut calling daily to “speak with Mr. Lund or any other recruiter and ask them to SHUT DOWN in honor of the Mandate for Peace the citizens of Berkeley have instituted since before the invasion of Iraq” is near the bottom of the page.

    I was tempted to join their web site and post a thank you to them for helping me make contact with the Marine recruiter in order to thank him for his hard work, just to yank their chain, but didn’t want to be seen by >them

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