The Vice Presidential prediction exercise
Last night, Wolf Blitzer asked the Democrat presidential candidates if they would consider each other for vice president. Hillary cackled one of her six big cackles of the night.
So did I.
There’s no way in hell Hillary would let Obama near the West Wing. She doesn’t want to have to worry about a second-in-command with his own power base and popular appeal. She needs someone loyal, obsequious, and subordinate to her.
If McCain is the GOP contender, she will also want to burnish her ticket’s military credentials.
And despite her identity politics card-playing last night (Just look at her!), she’s going to want to put an old white guy (the Lloyd Bentsen model) next to her.
My prediction (shudder): Gen. Wesley Clark.
He endorsed her last September. He’s a Rush Limbaugh-bashing, nutroots favorite. He does not threaten her. His anti-war crusading will take the Code Pinko heat off of her. And having run for president once, he’s been “tested” on the campaign trail.
Obama’s pick is a bit more difficult to game out. I think he’d also go for an older “statesman” type to bolster his weak foreign policy/national security credentials. I’m thinking Lee Hamilton. Moderate Democrat. Long resume with experience on the House Committee on Foreign Affairs, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, the Iraq Study group, Hart-Rudman Commission, the President’s Homeland Security Advisory Council, and, of course, the 9/11 Commission circus.
What about McCain?
Let’s see. We already know a few of his good friends he’s willing to share his name with: McCain-Feingold. McCain-Kennedy.
Just kidding. Sort of.
Among Republicans, Charlie Crist–a Southern governor, shamnesty sympathizer, and key endorser who helped put McCain over the top in Florida–appears to be a leading contender for the slot. Lovestruck Mike Huckabee’s also angling hard for the job. I’d say the odds are good for the Huckster.
As for Mitt Romney, there’s still a lot of wishing for a Romney-Thompson pairing to give him a pre-Super Tuesday jolt, which I’m afraid just isn’t going to happen. If he’s going to make a Richard Schweiker-type move (the former Pennsylvania senator whom Ronald Reagan chose as a running mate in the middle of the 1976 primaries to give his campaign a boost), now’s the time. But I’m at a loss as to whom Romney’s Schweiker would be.
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You pegged it. I call the Huckster too. Gag.
If McCain wins the nomination, his only hope to hold any part of the GOP base is to choose Thompson. If not, they stay home or go to Hillary.
Romney – Condoleezza Rice my prediction.
Ah, as far as rationale to back it up, Huckabee has a solid 10-15% of Republican voters who eat up his populism. His add to the ticket doesn’t help shore up conservatism, but given how Huckabee has been double-teaming Romney with Straight Talk, I think either someone has already been promised something or the Huckster really knows how to polish an apple. McCain and Huckster are the most ideologically similar among the high profile Republicans candidates as well, and there’s no way that bland Huckabee would steal McCain’s thunder ever in the way you rightly think Obama might for Hillary.
Giuliani crashed and burned far too badly to be considered an asset on any ticket.
If Mitt pulls it off, I’d love for Fred to come back into play, but he barely fought for the most powerful man in the free world slot– I can’t see him spending much time as second fiddle.
McCain could choose Hunter
at this point, being shut out completely here in ca. due to early primaries and idiot voters I may just write in Bozo the Clown and Mickey Mouse.
I agree. If anything can hold the Republicans together, it has to be Thompson on the ticket. I seriously doubt McCain will pick him. I wonder if Thompson would even run. All in all, a known conservative is the only way to go for the Republicans.
I would be thrilled with a Romney/Hunter ticket.
GO MITT!!!
Taking pride out of the factor, a dangerous ticket for the Republicans would be a Hillary/Obama match up. The first woman President and the first black VP with an eye toward the future.
Obama may see the light – get some experience and exposure as the VP and when the time is right, run for President. He’s still young.
Hillary wouldn’t have to worry about Obama taking front and center – VPs are rather easily put in their place attending funerals and other “official” ceremonies if the President so choses.
ajm Didn’t the voters in California send Bozo and Mickey to Congress? Or was it the Mayor’s office in New Orleans that keeeping them occupied?
Romney should approach Duncan Hunter. Great choice, and could help with the West.
I see Lindsey Graham tugging as McCain’s sleeve so often that I believe there is chance for him at the VP slot. What a disaster that would be!!!
Yes, today would be the day for Romney to call on Thompson if he really wanted to get the boost that he so badly needs.
He could ask Gingrich, too, but I get the feeling that Gingrich has a dream of a brokered convention. Long, long shot, but Newt strikes me as the kind of guy who believes in them. I don’t think he would be half as useful to Romney as Thompson would.
Mitt, you listening? Today’s the day, buddy. Get Fred on board and you’ve got a shot. Not a good one come November, but at least a shot.
If Romney waits, I’m afraid that Ann Coulter will end up pulling for Darth Clinton and her husband. Maybe I’ll join her…
I disagree re: Clinton. I think Obama would guarantee her the election, just like I think she would guarantee him the election. Together – regardless of which one of them is on top – they could not be stopped in 2008. Even Thompson would probably not be enough.
OTOH, whereas Romney doesn’t debate particularly well, Thompson does. He might be able to land some stinging blows in the September debates.
And we all know that McCain’s numbers are growing in part because Dems are voting for him in primaries, he’s being considered “bi-partisan” by the very people we all know we can’t trust, etc.
He’s the demoncrats’ patsie, specifically because they know that anyone short of John Edwards would be able to beat him in a general election. If Ronald Reagan re-appeared today, I’m not sure that even he provide enough lift to get McCain out of a landslide loss in a general election.
Romney – Thompson
McLame – Huckleberries
Clinton – Billy
Obama – Osama
What if McCain decides to forgo the conservatives all together and try and trim off some of the Dem’s voting base instead with a McCain-Liebermann ticket? Basically leave the conservative base behind and plant himself firmly in the center…
Dream = Fred Thompson … Statesman and conservative values …
Nightmare = Ron Paul … Republican version of Kucinich …
Best Choice = Condoleezza Rice … most qualified woman to be President …
Second Choice = Michael Steele … If not now PLEASE in 2012 …
Third Choice = Tom Tancredo … but would be best running DHS …
Acceptable Choice … Mike Huckabee … maybe he could talk Chuck Norris into running DHS …
I seriously doubt Condoleeza Rice would be interested in a VP spot – she hasn’t shown the least bit of interest in running.
McCain – Huckabee would be my guess –
As for Romney – Thompson would be a good bolster, another name that comes to my mind would be Michael Steele.
I almost think Juan McCain would pick up Joe Liberman but may be wrong. As for Weasley Clark-uuuggghhh. But I think you’re on to something. He’s the logical vp candidate for that cackling bird.
As much as I like Condi, she can’t even keep her voice from breaking when answering questions on the Sunday shows. She just doesn’t have the tough skin she would have to have in order to be on the ticket. Keep the dream alive, but it isn’t happening.
I was thinking the Wesley Clark ticket for Hillary too, Michelle.
For Obama I’m thinking someone like Barbara Boxer or even Pelosi. He wants a high profile VP that he can control, and I think he’ll want a woman to offset the gender card Hillary is playing. Plus, that way he could say ‘vote for me now, and in 4 or 8 years you can have your woman Pres. when my VP runs.’
McCain could choose any of the more conservative guys that endorsed him. You know, the ones that shocked us when they threw their support to him. Could be Fred. That would be a sad pairing. I don’t think even Fred could put him in the White House.
Romney is a little tougher. He needs someone with Military Service as well. I’d love to see him ticket with Gen. Petraes. Fred would be great for his campaign. The fact that Fred endorsed McCain kinda makes that unlikely though. As much as I like Hunter or Tancredo, I don’t think they’ve got enough ‘Star Power’ for him. Maybe he’ll go the other route and pick Rudy in an attempt to grab some of the liberals, who knows.
Time will tell.
I mentioned RIce as a real prediction but does everyone does understand that she would be anathema to the Jewish vote?
The nightmare is all too real: VP Lindsey Graham. Graham has stayed front and center in the campaign and he’s also on the board of the Reform Institute.
I never thought about Condi as VP. I could see her and Mitt as a team.
In the Words of C3PO to what I have read on this, and given how the world opinion in Europe just LOVE Hillary and Obama with a report I seen that suspects the Dems to win, never mind right now the only Republican running that has a chance of winning is Macain and Rommney. It leaves me with one thing
“We’re Doomed!” Hard times, they are a’ comin.
If (God help us all) it’s McLame, his choice for veep will unquestioningly be Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who is also one of his national campaign co-chairs.
The two have become extremely close, T-Paw is young and vibrant, also an “up and comer”, he’s also McLame’s lap dog, an embarrassment to conservatives, a man who fits the McLame mold perfectly, and he’s a northern stater.
Mark my words, it will be Pawlenty.
TK421
A screenname like that truly proves you are a die-hard Star Wars fan – I had to look that one up….
Romney – Condoleezza Rice my prediction also. Why would he pick Hunter or Fred after they refuse to support him?
Too bad influential people like MM and Ingraham and others didn’t get on the Romney bandwagon long ago when it could have helped. Now we’re stuck with a maniac – i won’t vote for McCain.
McCain – Rivera 2008!
( I haven’t had breakfast, so typing that didn’t make me lose it )
The thought of him being in the line of succession makes me shudder too. For what it is worth my quess is:
McCain – Graham of SC
Romney – Thompson
Obamaination – Silk Pony
“She who must not be named” – Richardson
I have to agree with TK-241 we are doomed!
I believe it comes from a line on the Death Star in Star Wars IV. TK421 why aren’t you at your post.
I know he wouldn’t consider it but what about JC Watts? Talk about an articulate conservative and someone who would definitely counter the identity ticket the left will have either way.
A Romney – Thompson ticket is a sure loser. Fred is so boring, old and uptight. Romney needs to project change and experience. If Rice would come out with support for Mitt today then he would have a really super tuesday.
Paul/Kusinich – UFO Party
Hillary/McCain
Obama/McCain
McCain/Kerry
Romney/Thompson
Dream tickets:
Romney – Rice
Romney – Thompson
Romney – Hunter
Romney – Jeb (at least put Jeb in charge of FEMA!)
Gag ticket:
McShame – Huckabee
Clinton – Anybody
Nightmare:
McShame – Kerry
Clinton – Anybody
Actual Prediction:
McShame – Rudy
Obama – Richardson
I would suspect, as Michelle noted, that Wesley Clark is probably on the short list for VP with Hillary. He is “tested” with the Democrats. He is loyal to the Clintons. He is a retired general, which gives her credentials for people comparing an HRC administration against the Maverick’s military past. You know she is at least thinking this through right now. If the Clinton’s are nothing else, they are conniving.
Obama? Hmmmm? I’m not really sure on that one. He needs someone on foreign policy/national security to offset his inexperience. I’m not sure Lee Hamilton is it. But, maybe.
McCain? Well, if he has any chance of winning, at all, he has to snow the conservative base into believing he is the man. And, I think it has to be a conservative from the South. I don’t think, regardless of the showings he likes to point to in SC and FL, that Southerner conservatives will go with him. Fred Thompson might help there, maybe. Thompson just wan’t going after it too hard. But, I rather suspect that Huckabee is gunning for that. I don’t think he can pull enough out of Super Tuesday and past to even have a remote shot at the big seat and knows it. I think he has been vying or VP her as of late. And, McCain is probably stupid enough to think Huckabee could swing Southern voters. I don’t think he can.
Romney would be wise to bring on a Southern conservative too. I think a Romney/Thompson ticket would do pretty good. It’s all about geography. Republicans have to look where their biggest blocks of support come from. The Southern states are a huge one. And, Romney is from a very blue state. McCain is from the West.
I don’t think either of them have a snow ball’s chance, without shoring up conservative support from the South.
Of course, this is just IMHO, for what it’s worth.
I mostly agree with your analysis (I think a Clinton-Clark ticket is inevitable). The exception being Lee Hamilton. Hamilton is too old and doesn’t have enough pizazz to make a big splash on the campaign trail. Maybe if he were 10 years younger…
I think there’s a real danger (and I say this as a Democrat) of McCain choosing Lieberman. He’ll probably chicken out and take the safe route with Huckabee, but a McCain-Lieberman ticket would be formidable in a general election. McCain isn’t running as a conservative, so he doesn’t have to be beholden to the party base.
And for all the Hunter lovers, sorry. He endorsed Huckabee which makes him damaged goods to the other candidates. The best bet for him would be a McCain-Huckabee ticket. If that wins, Hunter could find himself in the Cabinet.
Lieberman said he would refuse if McCain offered.
Wesley Clark is a good pick for Hillary. He’s a good pick even if McCain isn’t the nominee. Yeah, she needs military cred to compete with McCain, but if the nominee is Romney, why not edge him out on that factor? Maybe make a note of how Romney got a draft deferment so he could go convert the French to Mormonism. That attack ad practically writes itself.
McCain/Crist just gives me more reason to “stay home” (vote third party, rather). Crist (who did not get my vote for governor), when he was attorney general, spent the time after hurricane Charley devastated Florida cracking down on “price gougers.” That is, cracking down on people who were spending a great amount of time and treasure to bring valuable goods and services to the people who had been hard-hit. Charlie Crist: valiantly defeating the scourge of Capitalism. Thanks Chuck.
authoritarian* And to add this whole no middle ground politics, IE FAR right FAR left only is the type of thing that led to Civil War in the Birth place of Democracy every 50 or so years. (Acient Greece)
It looks to me like there’s a McCain/Giuliani deal already made. Giuliani went straight to endorsing McCain after his concession and was there when Schwarzenegger endorsed him as well.
As for Hillary/Obama, Hillary could take on Obama to appease some of the far left while she moves closer to the center in the national election.
“There’s no way in hell Hillary would let Obama near the West Wing. She doesn’t want to have to worry about a second-in-command with his own power base and popular appeal. She needs someone loyal, obsequious, and subordinate to her.”
I got that far before I started mouthing the name Wesley Clark..
I despise that man.
I agree with Boomer about Hillary choosing Richardson. He’s stayed out of the endorsment business so far. What about John Edwards for either Shrillary or Obamalamo? I don’t think anybody has mentioned him yet. I’m sure he’d be the kiss of death as a VP for any of the Dems that gets the nomination (I can only hope).
For the Republican ticket…that’s a toss up. I definitely don’t think that it will be either Tancrado or Hunter (unfortunately). I just don’t see that happening.
Thompson is intriguing but a bore (sorry Thompson supporters). I would root for Michael Steel and always felt that he got the short end of the stick when he ran for the Maryland senate seat. He lost because blacks don’t have stomach to change their lives or their fortunes, they’re just lockstep Dem cheerleaders… sorry Obama, but you’re no Kennedy.
I think McCain will probably wrap up the nomination on Super Tuesday (as much as I regret saying that). He will either choose Romney to beef up his economic experience or choose somebody that will draw in more Conservatives. I can’t see him choosing Graham, no matter how cozy they appear to be.
I still implore Conservatives not to give up on McCain (even if you do find him unpalatable). While I understand why Ann Coulter and Rush don’t support him, it will not be beneficial to give the race to the Dems…
McShame – Rudy AGREED
Obama –
RichardsonShrillFurther Prediction:
Obama dead within 90 days making way for Shrill to be POTUS for almost 12 years.
Why would Obama want to be Veep to Hillary? If she wins its at least 8 more years before he can run for Prez, and by then the tide might turn away from the Dems just as it did with her hubby.
If Hills is nominated and loses, Obama is in the catbird seat for 2012 and he gets 4 years to build up the Dem organization.
Michelle, when you floated Wes Clark as Hill’s VP I got a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach…. that is a nightmare scenario for any Republican. The only thing worse might be John Edwards as VEEP, but we’ve been there, done that.
For the GOP, whatever happened to all the speculation about Tim Pawlenty, governor of Minnesota? He is a staunch McCain guy and he would help shore up the battleground upper midwest states…
For Mitt, I dont have a clue. He needs someone from the south, someone with military credentials, someone with a dash of inside the beltway smarts. Who? I dunno…
Dream ticket:
Romney / Thompson
Romney / Rice
Nightmare ticket:
McCain / Kerry
McCain / anyone
Clinton / anyone
Obama / anyone
Huckabee / anyone
Dang, Soap! You’ve already started the conspiracy prediction? LOL
Neither Obama or Clinton would accept a VP position. They are both too ambitious. Remember, the VP duties are to be a non-voting (except ties) President of the Senate, and 2nd in line for succession. That’s it. It really is a worthless job for an ambitious politician, like them. However, I do like Michael Steele that was mentioned earlier. He’s a fine candidate for VP and it would get his name back out in the public again.
I, of course, as a Condista, would love to have Rice as VP. She is strong against liberals. She put Sen. Boxer in her place in response to that awful question about not having children.
She also put Stanford University moonbats in their place. When she was provost, the college hispanic open-borders crowd held a hunger strike to protest some sort of curriculum dispute. When asked if she felt guilty about not giving in to the hunger strike, she responded : “Not at all. I’m not the one who isn’t eating.”
If you look at her denials about running, they are not definite denials.
Also , Romney is aware of the “Condi for VP” support. He has met several of us at various GOP conventions. I really hope he mulls it over.
Robert Novak is talking about it. He was on Geraldo’s show 2 nights ago saying she would be an interesting choice. Geraldo cringed, which is a VERY good sign. LOL (More about it here.)
Check us out.
We will have folks floating around CPAC next weekend. Find us and grab an “I Like Condi” button. Then find McCain or Romney and tell them your suggestion for VP.
The FBI is already parked in front of soaps’s house…..lmao
I think if Mc Cain loses out to Romney, he becomes Hillaries VP choice.
WOW, I am going to agree with Rusty. This is why I think McCain will choose Rudy who is even more liberal. The Repubs are becoming liberal at an exponential pace.
What I like about this, is that it would knock them out for 2012 in one fell swoop. Because the Republican candidate does not have a prayer in this election. But the democrats could alienate everyone in their 4 years.
That really is the only thing so far in the campaign that gets a ‘whew’ from me. It can all change tomorrow, but I’m still sure that they both are too focused for the top spot to ‘take one for the team’ and become the other one’s VP, which I sadly think would guarantee them the White House.
So thank you to Hillary and Barack’s respective egos.
Barry
I am a charter mamber of the VRWC!!
If Obama wins the nomination, his VP pick should be someone from his own church, like, say, Minister Farrakhan.
If it’s Hillary, she should pick Jane Roe.
If it’s Romney, he should pick John Bolten or Condi Rice.
McCain will pick the loser of Obama / Hillary
Romney/Rice would be a great ticket.
She would shore up his international credentials. But, she won’t do it.
Disputing something above, Geraldo was on F&F this morning saying a McCain/Rice ticket would be his dream ticket. (I said: as if she would, she’s actually a Republican.)
Despite all the wishes above, I think most of them are wrong, the Republicans are dead in the water if they put up two old white guys – McCain/Thompson; McCain/Huckabee; McCain/any white guy. What about Michael Steele for a VP? Is he seasoned/tested enough? I would love JC Watts, but I don’t think he would do it. Anyone know what Christie Todd Whitman (former Governor NJ) is doing these days?
On the Left side:
I think MM is right on the Clinton/Clark pairing (he’s from Arkansas too).
For Obama, he’s not shed his training wheels yet so I think he needs to have Bill Clinton as his VP.
The scary part is, AJ, the FBI may already be developing a contingency plan for deployment of agents, if Hillary is elected. I’m sure she will have some investigations for things she will want done, post haste, anyways.
I think if Obama picked Hillary, he would end up with the same Fate as JFK.
AJ, it might be a safe bet that Hillary would have you at the top of her list for “investigation” by an FBI under HRC. LOL
Okay, AJ. Obviously, you aren’t alone. I don’t think is what Obama had in mind, when he wanted to be compared to JFK.
Ditto on Clark – what is her fixation on wrinkled, cotton-topped white men with soft-spoken Southern accents?!
it’s not against the law to think someone is a skank…. they can find me on the golf course with nothing to hide.
“There’s no way in hell Hillary would let Obama near the West Wing. She doesn’t want to have to worry about a second-in-command with his own power base and popular appeal. She needs someone loyal, obsequious, and subordinate to her.”
It should also be pointed out that the press would make Obama the star of a Clinton-Obama ticket. Hillary (and Bill) will have none of that. It’s all about them. It always has been, and nothing will change that. And the press will demand that veep Obama take an active part in policy decisions; again, something (as Michelle said) that Bill and Hillary absolutely do not want. But wouldn’t such a situation be ironic, given the current outrage among the left that veep Cheney dares to participate in Bush administration policy!
DesertLover and others mentioned Michael Steele and Condoleezza Rice as possible GOP veeps. My choice would be Steele, with Rice continuing in a policy-making role. Rice has said time and again that she has no interest in running for President, so Rice as veep may leave us with another nominee hole in 2012 or 2016.
Right on cue, Democrats would try to smear the Republicans as “racists” for picking an “Uncle Tom” or “Aunt Jemimah” veep, but we can hit them right back with the truth, which is that up until this year the Dems had no viable black presidential or VP candidates because for forty years they have deliberately kept blacks out of true party leadership roles, no doubt thanks to the lingering influence of men like Albert Gore Sr. and William Fulbright (whose star pupil was Bill Clinton) … so they can take their racist smears and shove them.
I predict a McCain-Giuliani ticket.
For the Dems, I’m guessing Hillary might choose Mark Warner, the former governor of Virginia, to win one Southern state.
Why would anyone want Rice, a terrible, very liberal secretary of state, as vice president? She has been a disaster. Look at how many countries have gone communist in Latin America. She won’t let Israel destroy Hamas and Hezbollah. The State Department is practically socialist these days, far worse than before she took over.
Wanna really blow liberal minds out of the water ???
Steele – Rice 2012
An all African American ticket with a female VP for the GOP top spots….
Tell me that wouldn’t bring out the true color hypocrites from the left…
Hillary/Monica (keep your friends close, etc…)
The dems will do ANYTHING not to lose this election. It will be Clinton/Obama.
Repubs: McCain is already a military man. He desperately needs to pick up conservatives and will pick Huckabee.
Romney (God love him) needs Fred Thompson desperately. If not him, then Michael Steele. My logic for Steele is that he will attract all Black Republican voters and perhaps even Blacks who are disgruntled with Hillary.
How is that the fault of Rice? She doesn’t make policies or control other countries? She promotes the President’s policies.
I would LOVE JC Watts although again, he’s stayed mainly away from the politcal scene. I’ve always been a huge fan of his.
Most importantly, he’s one of the few conservatives who:
1) is a true conservative (See NOT McCain)
2) has no problem trying to get the conservative message out as so many do in this years elections (See McCain, Romney)
3) Strong on national defense
Ahh, per chance to dream.
If only, if only. Seriously, JC Watts would be my Presidental candidate if he decided to run. I could only hope for a VP nod.
Newt Gingrich or Duncan Hunter. McCain needs a conservative to appeal to the conservative base that is totally rejecting him at this point.
IMHO, Condi has not done that great of a job to consider her for VP. she has great credentials, but as many may realize a great resume sometimes does not mean you are capable of success on the job. she has had a less than medoicre presence on the bush administration. she is also, i fear, just a little to liberal.
i used to think thompson would be a great pick for romney, but now that does not have the appeal it once did, as well. romney needs to find someone that is dynamic, Steele, is a good choice. especially, if obama gets the nod from the dems.
hillary/richardson is another i thought would be the choice for the billary group. however, if mccain is the nominee, she will move towards clark to counter the military. after all, clark was a general. mccain, would have lost his ‘command’ many times over if his dad and grandad had not been admirals. look for this to come out in the battle towards november, too. as well as the over abundant crashing of planes by mccain.. BEFORE he ever went to Vietnam.
if obama gets the dem nomination, he will pick someone that is young. it will be a youthful ticket. (sort of the out withthe old and in with the new.) not sure but maybe one of the female governors. he will not pick someone from inside washington, however, as he is to be the ‘change’ washington candidate. can’t take someone from inside. his best bet is to pick a democratic governor preferably a female: the Govenor from Arizona?
Since I’ve got an extra minute, how about Clinton-Giustra?
Everyone keep your on the Frank Giustra-Bill Clinton story – you’ll probably have to dig for it though; I doubt the MSM, aside from the NYT (I’m seriously shocked!), will give it much coverage.
Didn’t he have a few top singles with Nacny Sinatra back in the 60s? Some Velvet Morning. OK, I jest. I have no idea who will pick whom.
I dunno, he already ran for veep with Gore and I don’t believe history is on the side of veeps getting more than one shot.
I don’t get the “vibe” for either of those choices, both just seem unlikely for some reason – at least on a first blush feel.
I think you’re going in the right direction inasmuch as McCain is openly rejecting and is hostile to his party’s base (i.e. conservatives). But the rub is he wouldn’t stand a chance in the general without their bigtime support. He’ll get token conservative support, but not the massive amount he would need. He can’t make up for that elsewhere as liberals will go for the “real thing” and with moderates the very best he can hope for is an very unlikely even split.
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As for Romney naming Thompson now (providing Fred would agree) it has some appeal, but with the non-campaign Fred ran it could come back to bite Mitt’s behind. Romney could pick someone younger than Fred (well, that’s just about everybody except McCain) and who is a bit less stiff than himself. I don’t know who that would be, though.
If it has to be McCain, then Michael Steele might open a door to the northeast – which, for better or worse, would not be a Democratic lock in ‘08 if McCain gets the nod.
Clinton/Clark is scary – that guy totally BLEW the Bosnian conflict, and had to be bailed out. He’s a self-hating “Clinton” general, and a coward.
Would Romney or McCain consider Tommy Franks? He’d hold Clark by the nose and kick him in the rear in the debates. I don’t know – maybe too much “brass” on a McCain/Franks ticket?
One thing that really is bothering me about the GOP side of this primary season is that…well, most of them are trying to be Democrats!!!
By that, I mean the pandering to one side or the other.
What happened to the days when you would state your Conservative position, give the facts to back it up and stick with your guns.
I bring up this point about Michael Steele who I am a big fan when he was running. I would want Michael Steele, NOT because of the color of his skin but because of his beliefs and principals.
Besides that, remember the Ol’ playbook for the Dem’s:
If he/she is a Democrat, they’re all for him/her.
If they’re a Republican, they’re just in the position as a token position (That annoys the #%&#@ out of me).
Condeleeza Rice, Colin Powell, Clarence Thomas, etc, etc.
I don’t believe it would have any effect on the vote
No, she advises the president. Just look what has happened thanks to her “democracy at any cost” approach to foreign policy: the assassination of Bhutto. We should have been supporting Musharaf, a key ally in the war on terror. Instead, she was pushing for “democracy” in Pakistan, where 45% worship Osama Bin Laden.
She is just awful. We haven’t had this type of crisis in Latin America since Jimmy Carter, someone whose foreign policy philosophy is very similar to Rice’s.
Speaking as a former Fredhead, the last thing Romney needs is Fred.
Rick Santorum just endorsed Romney, as did Laura Ingraham (or said she would be pulling the lever for him, as did Hannity yesterday). Romney’s got his conservative creds now, he just needs to execute.
Mitt needs to stop McCain in his tracks.
He needs to do something spectacular before Tuesday.
In 2000, Watts said that he was a friend of GOP presidential candidate John McCain. Live Chat: Congressman J.C. Watts, ABC News (2000-07-31).
Mitt needs to call a press conference TODAY and introduce Michael Steele as his vice president. Then let Michael give a 10 minute pep talk on national TV.
Romney still has a Mormon problem so would have to pick someone like Huckabee.
McCain must reach across the aisle and pick a Democrat to win. All the enthusiasm is in the liberal electorate and they will vote this time in record numbers. Are his people reaching out to John Kerry? This shouldn’t bother the idiots voting for McCain in the primaries as they can’t possibly be conservative.
You are forgetting Obama/Shrill because, as you know, Bill was THE first black POTUS!
Purple, McCain picking Huckabee would greatly help him with social conservatives. They vote in large numbers and both McCain and Huckabee have been staunchly anti-choice [ok, fine, "pro-life"
] for their entire political careers. McCain’s votes against the FMA hurt a little, but abortion is the issue that drives those voters out.
As for all the pro-Thompson people out there, sorry, it isn’t happening. No matter what his politics are, being on a presidential candidate means campaigning your butt off. And Thompson has proven himself to be an inferior campaigner.
My prediction – for what it’s worth;
McVain = (some Hispanic)
Mitt = Rudy
Hillary = herself
Obama = (white woman)
Steele is damaged goods. Excluding a Lt. Governorship, he hasn’t won a single thing. And that governor was shown the door after one term.
If McCain chose Lieberman it would actually be great, we could ‘label’ them the first independent party Presidency, they last one term, and we keep our Republican Party.
Perhaps Liberman has said he wouldn’t run with Juan but I believe if he is called upon he will do it. I like Michael Steele but not sure what all he brings to the table besides his race.
Okay, since I have my head in the proverbial noose:
Obama buys it in the Clinton library and, much later, Clinton buys it in the Obama library (to be built at a future date). Going along the lines of the Kennedy theme. How is that for a conspiracy?
What I’d like to see is Romney – Thopmson (although I’d prefer it the other way around, but a bit too late for that).
McCain – whoever will bend over the furthest for McCain.
Here’s a thought..
Clinton – Clinton ..LOL
as for Obama.. anybody’s guess atm.
If McCain gets the nod, I don’t think he picks Huckabee. What exactly does that get the GOP??
A social conservative and both of them going liberal? No, please, PLEASE!!!! (I just may follow Coulter’s lead)
I’m thinking somebody Northern to counter things….
“Ladies and Gentleman, my VP running mate n 2008 will be George Pataki”.
Ran NY state, likeable guy from New York who could make things difficult n the North.
Having been born and raised in Oklahoma, plus being a die-hard OU fan, I obviously thought of JC Watts. I have mentioned him here many times before, and am pleased to see there are others who have not forgotten him and the class he brought to DC, but I am not sure he would leave his private business these days.
JC Watts Companies
He still is featured occasionally on FNC, and on radio with Rush, Sean and JD Hayworth. I could only hope for him to be willing to return to politics.
RomnestyCare could pick McAmnesty or vice versa.
They really aren’t very different from one another when you research their positions.
You’d have to work out some Venn Diagrams on that, but the one-issue voters certainly couldn’t hurt. Dunno if they could save the day either though. My factoring includes the notion there will be a strong Democratic “surge” this fall and not much genuine excitement for the GOP candidate, whomever that may be.
Oh, yeah, I would’ve liked Fred as the Pres candidate but I’m not sure he’d draw a great deal more votes, in the general, as veep. Has a lot of conservative interest, but Mitt’s already seen as the conservative anti-McCain even without him.
Romney/Michael Steele.
And we all need to bombard Romney’s site in the next couple of days demanding that he take the gloves off, be passionate and controversial, and show McCain up for what he really is.
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Here’s some information on Michael Steele if you are wanting to know more about him.
Michael Steele
Since he was Lt. Gov. of Maryland I am sure our hostess could probably give us more in depth information.
I said this to my wife after the SC win for Obama, but I thought it would be within the first 2 year’s. Some crazy white supremised would be the shooter.
Billary/Warner
Billary/Richardson
Obama/Emanuel
Obama/Richardson
McCain/Giuliani
McCain/Graham
Romney/Hunter
Romney/Thompson
Think workaholic like Mitt.
McCain would be interested in somebody worse than himself, Mitt would go for a VP as a talent to get work done.
And, how is he going to do that with Huckabee? The Fair Tax is something tha resonates with many conservatives. But, he doesn’t offer much else in the conservative realm.
Hillary – Rosie
Obama – Code Pink
McCain – Vicente Fox
Huckleberry – Carrot Top
Romney – Gen. Petreaus
With the candle stick? Don’t leave us hangin’, Soap.
Given mcCains disdain for the opinion of his party let alone the 70+% of the people I am hard pressed to believe that his VP will do anything other than attend foreign funerals and conferences – he doesn’t want nor understand that he needs advise nor help.
Romney/Rice …. could work although Rice may not pull black voters away from Obama.
Obama/Any Muslim …. would suggest opening stores country wide for burka sales
Clinton/McCain …. would be the MSM choice.