The Sunday talk shows open thread
If you’re home this morning watching the presidential front-runners on the Sunday gabfests and want to vent here, feel free.
I’m watching McCain on Fox News Sunday. He forced some jovial giggles when Chris Wallace played the clip of his mother’s “hold your nose” soundbite on C-SPAN. He said he loved her, but that she wasn’t an “expert” on politics, which makes one wonder why he allowed her to sit down with C-SPAN. He also invoked “Jack Kemp” and “Phil Gramm” a gazillion times. Which I suppose is his idea of “conservative outreach.”
Wallace brings on Hillary Clinton to say hello to McCain. They smiled warmly at each other and the friendly McCain turned into Miss Congeniality–he’s looking forward to a “respectful, but spirited” contest with her. They take her off. McCain’s back on.
He’s strong on Iraq–condemning the recent suicide bombings using mentally disabled women as evil.
No discussion of immigration or homeland security, as usual. But Wallace did ask him about the Super Bowl.
9:20am. Hillary’s turn. She’s got her trademark Mao-style jacket. She starts in on her Housing Rescue Plan. “At some point, we’ve got to have government action to solve these problems.”
When does she ever believe we don’t need governmet to solve problems?
Wallace moves to Iraq and plays the CNN debate soundbite where she answers “Bring the troops home” when asked if she wants to end the war or win it.
She sniffs at the surge. Wallace plays her soundbite trashing reports of success and asks: “Why are you so determined to declare defeat?” Hillary reels off all the problems in Iraq: “I personally believe there is no military solution.” Strawman. All of the architects of the surge have ALWAYS emphasized that the solution cannot be military alone.
Wallace asks about Bill Clinton’s role in her presidency. “How would you set up the White House to make clear who’s in charge?” HC: “Oh, I don’t think there would be any doubt about that.”
Wallace cites the NYT story on Bill Clinton’s dealings with Canadian mining financier Frank Giustra and the Kazakh government. Hillary gets rattled a bit. “That’s a one-sided story.” Snippily points out that “Dick Cheney also went to Kazakhstan and praised the regime.”
Ending on a chummy note, Hillary hopes “the New York team” wins both the Super Bowl and Super Tuesday.
Panel time. They’re discussing Obama-mentum, the Democrat dead heat, and whether he’s got enough juice to hold on. Juan Williams is trashing Obama’s chances.
They move to the Democrat VP game.
On the GOP side, Brit Hume blames conservatives/talk radio hosts for not rallying around Romney sooner. Bill Kristol rubs it in that now we have to live with McCain. There was good reason not to rally around Romney too soon. See here, for example. There may be a grain of truth in what Hume and Kristol say. But the Romney campaign also shares ample blame. As many of you pointed out during the Reagan Library debate, Romney passed up many ripe opportunities to slam McCain on core conservative issues. He hasn’t come through.
Related: Check out Mitt Romney’s interview with The Glenn and Helen podcast. FWIW, he promises to veto any gun control that comes across his desk.
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Switching to Meet The Press. They’re showing Uncle Teddy’s Obama endorsement. Agh.
The talking heads are discussing Hillary’s war resolution vote and Wolf Blitzer’s gotcha moment. Mary Matalin rightly mocks Hillary for arguing that Bush is a dope and then taking the position on the Iraq war that she was “duped by The Dope.”
Makes a great Hillary ’08 bumper sticker.
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ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos e-mails highlights from its Romney interview:
Romney on whether or not he would spend more of his personal fortune past Tuesday: “Of course. You know, I recognize that I’m not as well known as Senator McCain or Mayor Giuliani, or, for that matter, Fred Thompson.”
Romney on the McCain campaign: “McCain campaign does its very best to try and characterize what I believe, and I think you’ve found time and again that they have stretched, twisted or completely walked away from the truth.”
Our headliner this Sunday: former Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA) weighed in on his chances in the Super Tuesday races and how he plans to beat Sen. John McCain in these important states. Also, Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY). With Super Tuesday just days away, the ’08 Democratic presidential candidate joined George Stephanopoulos to discuss her prospects and strategy for these pivotal, final days.
On our roundtable, The American Prospect’s Robert Reich, Vanity Fair’s Dee Dee Myers, ABC News consultant Torie Clarke, and ABC News’ George Will joined Mr. Stephanopoulos to debate the week’s politics.
Here are some transcript highlights. Sunday snort-worthy: Hillary calling her illegal alien driver’s license position “consistent:”
STEPHANOPOULOS: Another issue in the debate, the other night, was this issue of a driver’s license for illegal immigrants. You now say that you are not for it. Senator Obama is for it.
And, yesterday, the largest Spanish language paper in the United States, in Los Angeles, “La Opinion,” cited it when they endorsed Barack Obama.
They said, “We were disappointed with Senator Clinton’s calculated opposition to driver’s licenses for the undocumented, which contrasts markedly from the forceful argument in support made by
Obama. We understand that this is an extremely controversial issue, but we believe there is only one right position and it is that of the Senator from Illinois.”Are you worried that this is going to hurt you in the Latino community?
CLINTON: No, because I think I have the right position. I think this is a diversion from what has to be comprehensive immigration reform. And I think, again, it is not a fair statement.
You know, I attempted to support my governor as he tried to do something that is, admittedly, controversial, but I said at the time it was not something that I supported.
When that didn’t work, it was very clear that, you know, my position has been consistent. I don’t think we should be giving driver’s licenses to people who are not documented.
You put so many difficult obstacles in the way here. You’re going to ask people in motor vehicle departments to basically overlook the immigration laws of America. You’re going to ask people to turn a blind eye and accept this form of identification.
I think that is not the right way to go. I believe we should be putting as much pressure on comprehensive immigration reform as possible.
And my supporters in California and in New York and across the country, Latino and others, understand exactly why this is the position we should be taking. And I intend to push for comprehensive immigration reform upon taking office as president…
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And here’s Romney:
STEPHANOPOULOS: Now we turn to the Republican trying to defeat
John McCain, former governor of Massachusetts Mitt Romney. He joins
us from Minneapolis this morning.And, Governor, let me begin by congratulating you. You won the
Maine caucuses last night. But we also see, in our new ABC News poll,
that John McCain is pulling away, nationally, 48 percent to 24
percent. He’s got big leads in the big states.How do you stop him from building up an insurmountable delegate
lead on Tuesday night?ROMNEY: Well, I think the answer is that you make sure, as you
go across the country, that you build the support among the base of
our party to remind them that this is a battle, in some respects, for
the heart and soul of the Republican Party, that, frankly, if we want
a party that is indistinguishable from Hillary Clinton on an issue
like illegal immigration, that we’re going to have John McCain as a
nominee. That’s the wrong way to go.Instead, I believe that you’re going to want to have somebody who
can show a contrast on issues like campaign finance reform, like
illegal immigration, like global warming. Senator McCain wants to add
about a 50 cent per gallon charge to gasoline for everybody in
America. I think those are the wrong directions.I think the mainstream members of my party are going to choose
somebody who stands for the same kind of principles that — well, that
built the house that Ronald Reagan built.And I think the voices of conservatism across the country, radio
talk show hosts, magazine columnists and so forth, who are
conservative mainstream Republicans, are coming out for me in record
numbers. And I think that’s what you saw in Maine yesterday.The kind of support that came from the caucus attendees, I think,
had to shock the McCain folks. Because they had both senators — both
Senator Collins and Senator Olympia Snowe were fighting very hard for
John McCain. And they were shocked that Republicans came out in
record numbers in the caucuses and said, no way, we’re not taking the
left turn in the Republican Party; we’re staying in the house that
Reagan built.STEPHANOPOULOS: You write about Rush Limbaugh and a lot of other
conservatives on talk radio, but many other conservatives are starting
to close ranks behind John McCain.STEPHANOPOULOS: There was a story in the New York Times just the
other day that showed Grover Norquist of American for Tax Reform
saying “McCain has moved in the right direction strongly and forcibly
on taxes.” Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, “I have no
residual issue with John McCain.” Richard Land, Southern Baptist
Convention — “He is strongly pro-life.”So it does seem the conservatives — and it’s backed in our poll
as well — are coming around to John McCain.ROMNEY: Well, he’s not wrong on every single issue. And of
course, there are going to be conservatives that point out the places
where he is within the mainstream of our party. On Iraq, for
instance. He and I agree on Iraq. So, of course, you’re going to
have positive comments. I made positive comments about Senator
McCain.But if you look at the issues that have defined our party over
the last several years, and particularly defined Senator McCain, they
range from drilling in ANWR, which he opposed; the Bush tax cuts,
which he opposed; campaign finance reform, which frankly was a huge
blow to the First Amendment and to our party, which fought for;
McCain-Kennedy on illegal immigration, which is an amnesty bill for
illegal aliens, and something I guess just over the weekend Barack
Obama said that his position and John McCain’s are the same on illegal
immigration. That’s not I think what you want from the nominee of our
party.And then this most recent bill, the McCain-Lieberman bill, which
says we’re going to place a charge on American consumers for global
warming. We’re not going to require that of the Chinese and the
Indians and others around the world that are actually emitting more
co2 than we are. Look, that kind of posture, I think, is going to
continue to cause many, many conservatives to rally to my camp.And you know, we’re going to get a test on Tuesday. We’ll see
how it goes. I expect to win a bunch of states and a bunch of
delegates.
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Love fest all right McCain and the media….
…But Wallace did ask him about the Super Bowl.
I’m not even going to watch the Super Bowl this year. Too agonizing to see the Giants up there when it should have been the Packers. As for New England, they’ll probably win, which is good because that means the NYG would lose. But still, How can you get excited about an arrogant team that got caught cheating and is still arrogant?
Politically, I hope Hillary gets the nomination for the Dems. The GOP is going to get their butts kicked again, just like in 2006. But at least we know how to deal with the Clintons once their in. Plus, the Clintons probably wouldn’t get elected with a mandate. Obama would, which is terrifying considering that the guy is easily less qualified than John Edwards, and is likely beholding to the Chicago Machine, meaning that the whole country would soon be as screwed up as Illinois. **shutters**
#1 you are right, that was a McCain love fest with FOX News or Chris Wallace or both. Very pathetic interviewing actually.
At least with Hillary he brought up what no one else in TV Land media has done, the Kazakhstan.
HIllary skirted around the mining deal though and never answered.
As for Bill and her comparing him to Cheney. He’s the VP. Bill going would be like Laura Bush going over there and doing deals. Like Wallace said it would be confusing as to who’s in charge.
Hillary probably won’t be able to reign him in either. He has to have his hand in everything.
I want to see what kind of reaction McCain will receive from the crowd during the game. Not to mention the free air time.
if you watch the entire interview with Ms. McCain, you will see her paint a picture of a man who should be president. That line was ONE line over about an hour. She took that time talking about what it was like raising him, waiting for him to return from being POW, watching him in the senate, showing he was the only one with Bush on lots of things (including the war and amnesty).
If people actually watched the interview rather than the news ‘reports’ of the interview (ie the one line where she says that R’s are going to have to hold their noses to vote for McCain). . . they would have a high good and positive feeling about McCain and the presidency. I recommend you watch the whole interview with Mac’s mom.
8:53 AM CST: Great, Brit Hume blames us (republican base) for not rallying ’round Romney from the beginning, we were waiting for a Reagan to show up. Bill Kristol joins him. Now we’ve got McCain and we deserve what we’ve got.
Great, from a team that just hired Karl Rove to do commentary, you don’t have much credibility with me, talk about stupid moves.
I’ve never watched the ABC show with Stephanopoulos before because he’s on the same time as Russert (MTP); but I’m changing channels now.
Russert lost so much credibility with me over these wimpy NBC debates I can’t watch him anymore.
Hillary will always get a free pass from the media about her — shall we say — curious relationships and business dealings. After all, she’s a Democrat and thus inherently Good For Us.
Osama Obama has made it this far without actually saying anything of substance, except that he favors kissing up to illegals.
Meanwhile, the Republicans are committing suicide by putting up the weakest possible contenders to face the empty-but-effective “hopes” offered by the socialists.
Short of a miracle that doesn’t seem to be out there, it doesn’t matter who wins in November…we lose.
Really disappointed in Chris Wallace. Soft, sappy interview at a critical time such as this. Apparently, he supports McCain. I had thought much higher of Wallace than this. A lost opportunity to get McCain on important issues.
On February 3rd, 2008 at 9:59 am, ThackerAgency said:
He forced some jovial giggles when Chris Wallace played the clip of his mother’s “hold your nose” soundbite on C-SPAN.
Momma McShame just wants her idiot son to finally move out of her basement. What’s a mother to do but support her son.
Hume is 100% right. If it weren’t for the ‘base’ telling us that ruDe was the guy, If they didn’t distract us the entire lead up to the January primaries that it was going to be the ‘conservative’ ruDe (ask Jesse Helms what he thinks of ruDe as a ‘conservative), then maybe we could have picked a conservative for the ticket.
The problem is that ruDe is not now nor has he ever been ‘conservative’. So now that he didn’t win, the ‘base’ is concerned with the R party not nominating a ‘conservative’. There were no conservatives running competent campaigns.
Romney ran a good campaign, McCain ran a world class (best ever) campaign, Ron Paul ran a good campaign, Mike Huckabee ran a good campaign. But it was never about ‘conservative’ principles. It was always about the campaign.
I guess people just want to think that ‘amnesty’ is the new litmus test like abortion used to be. . . of course REAGAN introduced and signed the first amnesty – so that must not be the litmus test for REAGAN republicans.
Anyway, it was ridiculous from the beginning that there were no conservatives running BECAUSE the ‘base’ wanted the ruDe. Now that you don’t get the liberal ruDe, you are upset that the R party doesn’t have a conservative.
Too late, your complaints fall on deaf ears at this point. If you didn’t complain about ruDe, and you aren’t complaining about Romney being liberal, then you don’t have a leg to stand on for criticizing anyone for not being conservative. No credibility no matter how many ‘points’ you bring up about McCain and that he’s ‘not conservative’.
I just lost a lot of respect for Brit Hume and the panel on Fox News Sunday… he blames the conservative base for not rallying around Romney from the beginning.
What were we supposed to do? Pick one candidate sometime last year and then stick with that candidate no matter what and without consideration of the others? I’ve always liked Romney, but I was keeping an open mind to listen to all candidates, before I totally settled on who I would vote for. Is Brit saying we were wrong to weigh all of the candidates thoroughly?
It’s not that we didn’t rally around Romney from the beginning, it’s that the MSM (and Fox) anointed McCain to be the “golden child” and is ramming him down our throats day after day… and some people are buying that.
That’s got to be the funniest thing I’ve read in a while. McCain’s Mom likes him, so I should have a good feeling about him? Just forget the absolute proof of McCain’s actions, from Shamnesty, to tax cuts, to lying, to the “people he surrounds himself with” ie., Teddy Kennedy and Juan Hernandez, to name a couple of real winners, and vote for McCain cause his 95 year old Mom likes him?
I don’t think so.
I don’t know where you get this information. They all said that McCain was finished. They said that the standing O that McCain got at the Florida debate was a ‘goodbye’ and a ‘thank you’ for his service. They all said he didn’t have enough money. They said last year that his stance on the war was going to cost him the presidency. They said his amnesty program ‘derailed’ him.
I don’t know where you get the idea that the media was ‘for McCain’ after seeing all the obituaries for McCain over the past year.
The MEDIA and the base were trying to get ruDe nominated. The only one they were for was ruDe. Since they didn’t get him because he ran the worst campaign in history (here again electing him was about his campaign (Florida strategy) and not ‘conservative principles’), they all want to take their ball and go home. Too freaking bad, and too late.
I posted a comment some time ago that we all needed to stop even discussing Huck and Fred, neither had a chance for various reasons – it was always Romney or McCain. Now the old ladies in Florida and the guilty schmos in SC have stuck us with him – unless we can force a convention fight by not allowing McCain to clinch on Tuesday.
laugh all you want Bob, I’m sure that you watched the entire interview. It’s free on C-span if you care about anything other than the ONE line out of an hour.
She talked about his accomplishments. You know, a guy who spends 25 years in the senate might have a few without ‘mommy being his only support’. After all, the D party has put up a guy with 2 years experience and a girl with 4 years experience as senators. . . but the R party doesn’t think that 25 years qualifies you for service.
The interview was about his contributions to the R party, not about mommy defending her baby.
Enjoy MDS. . . you are going to suffer for it for about 5 years. You might want to seek help.
Brit must have short term memory problems.
Many conservatives were hoping that Fred Thompson have enough energy and drive to run for president.
Unfortunately, Fred didn’t.
ThackerAgency – yes, I remember that the MSM had totally written McCain off… last year. I’m talking about the last month. You can’t deny that the media is giving him a free pass now.
On MTP, I thought it was cool of Russert to zing Carville with his own words when, as Carville began a rather feeble defense of Hillary’s yes vote on the war authorization act by saying she was misled into approving the measure because of the inexact and implicit language contained in it, Russert retorted by quoting a statement from Carville’s book (co-authored by Begalia) in which he (Carville) said the exact opposite: the military authorization bill’s language was explicit and the Senate knew full and well they were authorizing the President to take the country to war.
25 years in the Senate means you have been sucking money from the taxpayers for way too long….McCain is past retirement age, let’s retire him.
Whatever Romney has done that can be called “liberal” is overwhelmed by ONE action of McCain. His support of Shamnesty, partnership with Ted Kennedy in trying to jam it down our throats, and continued support of, “comprehensive immigration reform,” is far more of a turnoff for me than anything anyone could ever drag up to try and convince me to vote for McCain over Romney.
IMO, imperfect or not, Romney is the only chance for survival the Republican party has in ’08.
Thacker may be one of the few McCain supporter here.
I hold McCain’s decades of legislative experience AGAINST him. From the Keating 5 corruption scandal to Shamnesty versions 1,2,3… voting against tax cuts, blocking conservative judges, assault on free political speech, the list goes on and on. Nope, I will not support McCain no matter who the opponent will be.
Rasmussen reported on Fox that Romney has pulled right up to McCain in the national polls. In California he is ahead of McCain by a point and in the South he is moving ahead of McCain in many states.
The national betrayal rigging unfrayed.
Ummm. . . hello. . . PAY ATTENTION! I know it is difficult because I don’t have the press taking quotes from me out of context for you to digest.
I am NOT a McCain supporter and never have been. But I live in a world with FACTS and REALITY. The world I live in says that McCain, ruDe, Romney, and Huckabee are all liberals. I am amazed that people are so shocked and insistant that one liberal is soooooooo much better than another liberal.
OK behiker, lets look at the last month and play ‘you be the editor’.
McCain (over the last month) has won NH, SC, and FL. As a disinterested editor, are you going to run stories about how McCain should NOT have won? Are you going to run stories about how democracy is not a very good way to elect a president?
Would it be too much to ask to tell your audience that McCain won THREE STATES?!
Is that ‘giving him a pass?’ How about Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Scarborough, MM, Coulter, Tammy Bruce (ruDe supporter) et al OVER THE LAST MONTH?!!!!
McCain has been beaten down more the last month than at any time ever in his life.
Unrelated, but before people start bringing up the newly published military suicide rates, best to remind everyone of this fact, which will no doubt be widely ignored:
“Traditionally, the suicide rate among military members has been lower than age- and gender-matched civilians. But in recent years the rate has crept up from 12 per 100,000 among the military to 17.5 per 100,000 in 2006, she said. That’s still less than the civilian figure of about 20 per 100,000, she said.”
I was really unimpressed with Chris Wallace throwing softballs to McCain. All I see is how the MSM is fawning all over him as the front runner (to include Fox News). Not one mention so far watching Fox News about Romney’s win in Maine yesterday. It ain’t over until it’s over and most of the folks I talk too do NOT want McCain as the nominee to go head to head with Obama or “she who must not be named.” I hope the American conservatives slap the hell out of the MSM on Super Tuesday by voting against McCain. I would really like to see the Huckster out of the race it is almost like he is collusion with McCain in siphoning votes from the conservative base, which would go to Romney if he were out.
Personally I am less than confident in Romney due to his record in Massachusetts on many conservative issues (2nd Amendment past history scares me the most), but he has surrounded himself with smart people out to stop the invasion of this country, which is huge in our household. Unlike McCain who’s only strength would be on the war against Islam he is completely out of touch on how most Americans fell about the invasion of our southern border by surrounding himself with people like Juan Hernandez with ties to funding from George Soros, which makes me trust McCain not at all.
I better get back outside and start shoveling snow again. We have been hit with about 9 inches of snow last night with more to come. So much for Global Warming in southwestern Idaho’s high desert region this winter.
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McCain will not be at the Super Bowl … he is in MA … so there will be no local reaction to him … besides … the fact is that only a very small number of AZ citizens will be amongst the 75,000 at the game … most of the tickets are committed to corporations and others by the NFL long before the teams are ever decided … then each team playing gets an allotment for their season ticket holders and the season ticket holders of the game locations’ team (in this case the Cardinals) gets a few thousand tickets … that’s why the tickets are always being scalped for such high dollars … many of those that get them have no intention of going to the game …
He does have a point. Conservatives split their vote between Huckabee, Thompson, and Romney, while conservatives were trashing ALL the candidates, despite several being more conservative than President Reagan was (Reagan was the godfather of liberal “shamnesty,” having constantly been an open borders Republican and having legalized 2.8 million illegals.) This blind Reagan worship has got to stop. Now we have McCain as the nominee.
Yes, we should have rallied around Romney, instead of allowing liberal New Hampshire to decide the race.
However, a choice between McCain and Clinton? We would be nuts not to vote for McCain. He would make an excellent commander in chief, and the troops respect him. He has been strong on the War on Terror (except for his position on “torture.”)
For all those who state they will NEVER vote for McCain–while blindly worshiping Reagan (who gave us two liberal Supreme Court justices and legalized 2.8 million illegals and cut and ran from Muslim terrorists once we were attacked in Lebanon)–you are being used by liberals. They are counting on you not to vote.
Romney won in Maine even though McCain got the endorsements of the senators there. And he won big.
Liberals may be counting on us not to vote but their comes a time – like, NOW – when we must stand on principle. I say our system is fundamentally broken when the media foists THEIR choices on us in an accelerated manner, and when the Republicans ignore conservatives, well, maybe we should return the favor…
If you always vote for the lesser of two evils, you’re still voting for evil.
If you vote for RINOs, don’t expect to end up with anything but more RINOs in the future, too.
“Stand on principle” and give us the socialist Hillary or the pseudo-Muslim Obama as commander in chief? Not vote for McCain, with an 80% conservative voting record?
That is nuts. . .and exactly what the MSM wants us to do.
Fox News isn’t fair OR balanced. It’s lopsided and leaning left.
Zorro (#22) I’m with you, both on Thacker being a huge McCain supporter (despite his vehement hollow sounding protests); what’s up with that Thacker, are you embarrassed to be a McCain supporter? Also agree with you that McCain’s record in the senate should be held against him.
On the big ticket items he (McCain) has sided with the left, Feingold, Kennedy & Lieberman (albeit a conservative liberal); on his claims on the surge and that he ‘beat up’ Rumsfeld, I think he takes credit for a little more than what he could be credited with in reality and no one calls him on it.
Clearly, I’m a former Fredhead who is now a Romney supporter. Not denying it.
Romney was on Wolf Blitzer awhile ago. Blitz showed him a clip of his interview with Huckabee who said he was not taking votes away from Romney, rather Romney was taking votes away from HIM & Romney should drop out because he (Huck) was ahead in the southern states.. Romney just said – everyone has a right to stay in as long as they want.
Yea, and trying to hide it by hiring Karl Rove.
I was hoping we got rid of him (Rove) when he left the White House. Instead he got resurrected by Fox.
The MSM has managed to belittle and minimalize the conservatives that were in the race along with those that were strong on the border and illegal immigration issues … (Fred, Hunter, Tancredo) …
They used Fred’s late entry talk to keep everyone from really hearing the message from candidates other than the “big 3″ …
Then once Fred actually entered the race they immediately turned against any coverage of the message he was presenting to voters and instead ranted about he was too late coming into the race …
Fact is, had Fred hung in for another week or 2 I think many would have turned to him as the last conservative standing … but that didn’t happen either …
MSM bias has made sure that there will be a Rep candidate with a liberal slant no matter which one ends up with the candidacy …
Some of us can hope it is not too late to stop McCain … but I wouldn’t bet on it right now … Romney would need to get a real boost on Tuesday to give that though any real chance …
Although I will agree with you on the original amnesty under Reagan I must differ with you on the rest of that when it comes to McCain …
As for the amnesty, there were also a bunch of laws passed to prevent that situation from happening again … the very laws that were never fully enforced and is much of the reason we got to where we are in this area …
As for McCain …
1. He voted against having troops in Lebanon.
2. He advocated troop withdrawal from Somalia in 1993.
3. He advocated troop withdrawal from Haiti in 1994.
4. McCain-Kennedy shamnesty.
5. McCain-Feingold assault on freedom of speech.
6. And lastly McCain has said: “I would immediately close Guantanamo Bay, move all the prisoners to Fort Leavenworth.”
I wonder what the people of Kansas think of that plan?
I cannot guarantee at this point in time that I can make myself vote for him if that ends up being the choice in November, but I also will not vote for Hillary or Obama. I live in AZ and I can assure you he is not as much of a slam-dunk here as the MSM would like the nation to believe.
I mentioned this on Monica Crowley’s blog, she was blogging about if America really wanted change how come McCain and Clinton are leading in the polls…are they? Or is this the perception the MSM wants the American people to believe? The Media trying to pick our canidates? The sheep will follow the MSM pick but the rest of us Conservatives and Independents, I believe may sit out next November a no show for McCain, would be a Shu in for Clinton “Sorry couldn’t help myself” The Democrats will vote party, win at any cost. I don’t believe that is true of Conservatives, call it tuff love, they will let the Republicans loose. (Why Principles) Who wouldn’t enjoy McCain serving in a Democrat lead Senate, with a Hillary Clinton Presidency?
The Presidency is not a coronation, the next President has to work with the Congress and the Judiciary. The Conservatives send a message to the Republicans, who I don’t believe can get elected without the Conservative base. We will sit it out maybe then like Laura Ingraham and Peggy Noonan were discussing, the Republicans will go back to the drawing board and start rebuilding. Peggy Noonan stated she couldn’t tell if the Republicans would get the message before the November Election. If you can find the podcast online it is worth listening to this Interview by Laura Ingraham of Peggy Noonan.
This is the line up I would like to see for the two party canidates come fall.
Obama Dem
Romney Rep
BTW … that 80% conservative voting record is only from 1 of the ratings sources … all of the rest rate him in the range of 46% to 58% … so just like with all the polls there is a wide range of published ratings.
Thacker – here you go… McCain has won THREE STATES and was 2nd in another! Now, pick yourself up off the floor because I admitted it. However, Romney has won FOUR STATES (MI, ME, WY, NV) and was 2nd in three others (FL, NH, IA). Yes, I know, three of those wins were caucuses and not primaries, but he still won. To listen to the MSM, you would think Romney hasn’t won any.
I’m not suggesting the media talk about why McCain should not have won. What I am asking is that they not ignore the fact that Romney has been winning and isn’t dead in the water as they suggest.
The MSM is fully aware of why many people do not want to support McCain, so why don’t they clear up all of our concerns by asking him to address our issues? And do you know what? If McCain gave satisfactory answers, I could support him. But, until I hear my concerns being addressed, I’m supporting Romney.
Thanks mngirl, for what it’s worth, since Fred is out, I’ll vote for Romney in our primary as well.
We all know how bad a President Hillary or Obama might be. But in my view, an Oval Office run by a corrupt politician like McCain holds just as many dangers and uncertainty. It would be better for the democraps to be left holding the bag after all the damage is done.
Something to consider.
Yep — truth by omission. He only wants to put the “good” numbers out…while ignoring the rest. McCan’t is an outright liberal.
I am voting Mitt Romney in CA on Tuesday!
John #2, when you said…
“How can you get excited about an arrogant team that got caught cheating and is still arrogant?”
were you still talking football?
No real conservative, would vote for McShame. I see some trying to smooze McShame’s liberal record over by mentioning 1 strong conservative point he has, defense and the WOT. Actually he is weak on that in areas also…open boarders and closing GITMO.
Now you rino’s here be honest with yourselves, if you can be, look at his record, votes on social issues and the important aspect of “people you surround yourself with”. He’s surrounded himself by the people who Hillary and Bama would like to be sharing time with.
That my friends is fact, that my friends is the truth something you will not get out of McCenndy. He’s a self serving, arrogant, pompous, liar! You people here trying to say you’re not a supporter of him but he is somehow a shining star are lying. Trust me you will not change 1 real conservatives mind with bs here. You should do as McCain should have done, change parties…and if you remember he was thinking of doing just that in ’04 to run with scary Kerry.
Now please no more feel good crap about his mother…what would you expect his or any other mother to do or say.
wow!! That’s way too much TV for me. I’ll watch the highlights on hotair.com.
McCain as the Repub Party Standard Bearer: Mr. Doom, meet Mr. Gloom. Argh!
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/
Gatewaypundit is talking about a McCain Hispanic robo call scandal in North Dakota. There’s still enough time to get bad news about McCain out.
I don’t know if it will impact McCain’s credibility by Tuesday, but I’m surprised that no one has noticed his latest ad (beginning when he’s on a stretcher and the voice-over refers to his being inspired by Ronald Reagan during his captivity — video flashes to more recent photos of RR and McCain ….)
Funny thing is — how could McCain the Florida resident (with European/Asian duty assignments prior to his captivity in 1967) could have been “inspired” by a man who was first elected GOVERNOR of California in 1967.
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This reminds me of Kerry’s Christmas night memory of President Nixon — who wasn’t elected President until the NEXT year.
Memory loss? Dillusionment? Artistic liberty? Political pitch?
This maverick voter ain’t buying the maverick’s pitch. Neither now or (if Mitt doesn’t get brokered) in November.
Fox has been sliding left the last few years…i’m down to 2 shows i can stomach, Your World with Neil Cavuto and The Big Story co-hosted by John Gibson(which I do like).
Lou Dobbs on Clinton News Network (CNN)
is very tolerable on illegals and borders.
But I agree, Fox is sliding into the liberal hole beneath the outhouse.
Wow – Hillary is either so confident or so reckless that she has now admitted that the governmentshould go after workers’ wages to pay for nationalized Hillarycare.
I’m spending less and less time watching Fox, too. Not only are they sliding to the left, but their morning show, Fox and Friends, is nothing but tabloid trash and stupidity. And some of their other shows seem to be going the same way. I can’t put any faith in a show when one of the top stories includes anything about Britney.
Oh, Michele I wish they had you interview these candidates. It would be a whole lot more insightful. I am glad that other people are seeing that the Fox guys are not nearly as conservative as they pretend to be. See how they agree with Juan when it comes to McCain. How McCain continues to get a pass on the Keating 5 fiasco is beyond me. He should have gone to prison for it over 20 years ago. His 2nd wife (who he dumped his crippled first wife for), and who of course is an heiress and funded his foray into politics in the first place, made a large sum of money in Keating’s billion dollar fraud scheme. Keating also provided more than 100,000 dollars to his campaign. For those who don’t remember, our banking problems today are a repeat of the saving and loan fiasco that we had in the 80s.
I have come to the conclusion that I would vote for Hillary over McCain. At least with Hillary we would have opposition from the Republicans. With McCain we would have NO opposition.
Lou Dobbs on Clinton News Network (CNN)
is very tolerable on illegals and borders.
But I agree, Fox is sliding into the liberal hole beneath the outhouse.
behiker
agreed … Fox and Friends has been on a downward slide ever since they decided to give E.D. Hill her own show and she left F&F … she was the real driving force behind that program along with Lauren Green … unfortunately the women they have replaced them with are not nearly as credible when they try to be serious on something …
I agree. The Republicans need a new leader to emerge with credentials and a presense. Maybe the governer of LA or Watts. They also need to get away from the legacy of Bush which is a handicap. Let the democrats take the heat for a while. That is a better scenario than a McCain presidency and the democrats supporting all their joint legislation.
I think E.D. was the only thinker on that show. The guys seem a bit light weight. I think one is a weatherman and the other a sports reporter. E.D. was fun to watch.
I’m in Missouri but Leavenworth is not that far away. I would say they had better bring them in, in armor vehicles or chopper’s cause they may have a bunch of people taking pot shot’s from the hiway.
IMO if you want to vote for McCain vote for McCain, If you want to vote for Romney vote for Romney. All of the people I talked to this morning are voting for Romney, two of them have relative’s in Arizona and their comment was that they know McCain and they’ll be voting for Romney.
I’ve thinking about the ranker on some of these post’s, why make enemies by personally attacking each other with comment’s like “most of you” “people like you”, “insert name here” etc….. when IMO it can be kept impersonal by stating your own opinion, statement’s such as IMO (in my opinion) instead of you, yours or other choice word’s, state the case for the candidate not your anger for someone else’s opinion. Most of us here are amongst friend’s so why not keep it that way by not personalizing it or making blanket statement’s. IMO
If McCain wins the nomination, anyone willing to bet the MSM won’t start trotting out those old “crazed Vietnam war veteran who finally exploded into rage and violence” stories that led to so many bad movies, and then connect them to McC’s “volcanic” temper?
Anyone want to bet the MSM won’t seek out McCain’s old roomie at the Hanoi Hilton, the guy who has publicly said only on thing — that McCain should never be allowed to become President?
It’ll go from “War Hero who Withstood Torture” to “Crazed Former Vietnam POW” – faster than you can say Drive-by Media..
Romney said:
“that you build the support among the base of
our party to remind them that this is a battle, in some respects, for
the heart and soul of the Republican Party”
My gosh…he stole that line from Fred Thompson!!! Can’t this man say anything for himself without having to steal sayings from other TRUE Conservatives??
He is so fake and plastic it makes me sick. He will Do and SAY ANYTHING to get elected.
Wouldn’t it be refreshing to see a candidate who spoke his own thoughts and did what he wanted to do instead of what his committee or campaign manager wanted him to do??
Oh yeah, we had a candidate like that: FRED THOMPSON.
If Mitt Romney wins the nomination, I will be writing in Fred Thompson’s name and voting for him.
Fred Thompson: The ONLY TRUE CONSERVATIVE that all these Conservative bloggers and news commentators say they want…but never supported.
And now look what we have to choose from…
Sickening….
Obama live in Wilmington, Delaware, we’re ASHAMED of Abu Graib. We’re going to change this country. BS! Abu Graib was an aberration by a few knucklehead guards. Demagogery. Then he says everyone will have health insurance at least as good as what he has as a member of Congress. Pandering, class warfare. Give me your salary too why don’t you. Don’t people see through this silliness, that govt will do everything for us, they will give away the store? He or Hillary would be a disaster if their actions are close to their rhetoric. The only good to come out of their Presidency would be when they feel good about the govt taking more control of our lives and “helping” everyone.
Yes, something to consider… and reject.
Similar to Donald Rumsfeld’s “You go to war with the Army you have,” you go to elections with the candidates you have. Right now, barring some kind of miracle, we’ve got John McCain. So what does it mean?
First, we might as well get off the “There’s-gotta-be-a-way-we-can-salvage-a-conservative” fantasy right now. The more conservative candidates had their shot, and they all blew it. Hunter, Tancredo and Thompson couldn’t generate enough enthusiasm; Gingrich wouldn’t enter the fray.
Not that it really matters, because none of them could’ve beaten Hillary anyway.
Second, we may not like it but the conservative base isn’t by itself going to elect a Republican – although we can sabotage McCain by throwing a collective self-pity party in November.
It’s the “center” or the “moderates” of both parties as well as independent voters who will decide the outcome.
Things may change between now and the general election (e.g., watch the media’s boosterism of McCain do a 180 as soon as he becomes the nominee), but at the moment only McCain commands enough support in head-to-head comparisons to beat Hillary.
Why? Because he can capture the center from her in a way that a clearly labeled conservative won’t.
That’s the silver lining of all the media’s fawning coverage of McCain: one thing I think we can all agree on is that nobody is under any illusion that McCain is some right-wing ideologue, or that he is in thrall to all of his party’s platforms.
If you’re a self-described “moderate” or “centrist,” there is a strong appeal there, especially if the alternative is another spin on the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton merry-go-round.
Many of these moderate/centrists are turned off by Hillary, but at the same time don’t want somebody they’d consider to be a stereotypical Republican.
McCain offers a way out for them. Romney doesn’t.
Because of his greater appeal to the middle, McCain puts blue or leaning-blue states like Oregon, Washington, Minnesota and Wisconsin into play, even flips them red.
Romney doesn’t. In fact, Romney can be counted on to lose some of the red states that Bush won in 2004.
Bottom line: Elections are seldom, if ever, simple exercises in “good vs. bad” choices. More often, it’s a choice of who will do less damage and of having to “Suck It Up” in the polling booth.
All politicians are flawed to some degree; many if not most are corrupt or corruptible to varying degrees. Bright-line, “inspirational” choices come only when once-in-a-lifetime men like Ronald Reagan are on the ballot. We won’t see another like him for a long time, if ever.
We go to elections with the candidates we have. We can put aside our self-pity, get over ourselves, deal with reality and make the best of a bad situation; or we can throw a tantrum and make things demonstrably worse. If the latter’s your choice on election day, then please don’t say anything bad about Hillary once she’s in the White House – not one word – because you’ll have been instrumental in putting her there.
Lastly, remember that with McCain, we’ve got one ace in the hole: Just like when Bush went off the rails with Harriet Meiers or the Dubai port deal or Shamnesty, the conservative base will still have *some* influence to bring on a President McCain. Scream loud enough, and he just might “feel our pain.”
“Madame President” sure as hell won’t.
Don’t know if anyone else caught it, but Hillary let it slip that she thought the Democrats would win, “expecially if John McCain was the Republican nominee” (maybe not the exact quote, but close).
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it once again neither we nor our family or friends are going to donate to or vote for McCain.For those that are going to great.More power to ya but not us.We cannot vote or donate to a man we do not believe in or trust and can not stand his immigration policy.There is not a dimes worth of difference between McCain on immigration and Clinton or Obama,as Senator McCain said look at the people who are with him.Juan Hernandez.That says all anyone needs to know about McCain on immigration.If we are to have open borders and amnesty let the democrats do it.McCain will lose this election just like the old dinosaur Bob Dole lost in 96.
Look if folks want to back McCain because they believe he can win I’m not going to argue with them.If he’s your guy good for you but he will never be ours!
Geez, hillary on fox now, shes such a liar.
I completely agree. Either the polls that show McCain as the stongest opposition to the Dems are being effected by McCains name recognition…or, they are purposely incorrect to assist the Democrats in getting the most easily beatable opposition in Nov. A tired, old-looking McCain, having an occassional senior moment, ain’t going to work in a debate with Hillary/Obama. Romney looks presidential, (yes, that’s important), and IMO could destroy either Dem in a debate.
McCain will insure a loss for the Repubs if he is the nominee.
It is the Measure of the Man
Since his return from Hanoi, McCain has …
~Ignored pleas of POW/MIA Family Members for his political influence in the overall POW/MIA Issue as well as with their individual cases
~Verbally abused POW/MIA Family Members in public and private
~Attempted to negatively influence those who testified before the 1992 Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs
~Diminished legislation that gave oversight and protection to the families
~Dismantled protection to any future servicemen that go missing.
What McCain will do to this country is what needs to be considered. McCain doesn’t care about America or about Americans – he only cares about McCain.
The Measure of The Man
It is, as was said on the blog above, The Measure of The Man. What McCain has done to those less fortunate than he, those who didn’t return from Vietnam after being captured, is as dispicable a thing that any human being can do to another.
I am sick and tired of McCain playing the “former POW” card … we need to look at what he has done SINCE coming back.
and one final thought …
Listen to McCain’s mother? OMG – don’t you know propaganda when you see it?
And for the sake of full disclosure: I am a family member of a serviceman who was seen captured alive and never returned … 40 years … and counting.
A friend of mine made this observation, the Repulican party has had a next in line attitude for years and in 2000 McCain was supposed to be next in line, but Bush broke the line and cut in front and defeated McCain out of turn, so now it is McCains turn to be POTUS and that is why you have a surge of conservitives and RINOS supporting him because Romney is cutting in line like Bush did and the Republican establishment is not going to tolerate him cutting in line. Whaaaaaaaa go to the back of the line Mitt.
I think I have to agree with him on this one I have to admit I had not thought of that.
Your whole post pretty much sums up why I am a conservative, but not a republican.
Ditto
Here’s how I feel about this election. That is if McCain’s our nominee.
Ditto as well.
Whether McCain or Hillary or Obama wins the White House, the odds are we will all survive. I lived through the misery of the Carter recession, stagflation, military defeat and humiliation. We’ll live through the term of which ever one of the above Three Stooges wins (no offence to the real Three Stooges).
The establishment GOP is deserate to run McCain. McCain is old and he resorts to using q-cards when giving speeches; come on, he is an OLD MAN. Second, he is a very mean spirited, nasty, confrontational and vindictive old man, in my opinion, towards conservatives only of course. Third, he is a total lib: as pointed out here before. In my opinion of course, he is a total liar (his ad, which I also saw, calimign he was inspired by REagan as a POW in Vietnam, lies about Romney, etc.). And the line that he and Rudy sue that REagan gave the 1st amnesty is PATHETIC. Reagan only gave it to a bit over 2 mill people and only because he thought the borders will be secured. But people like McCain have refused to allow the securing of our borders while he was in Conrgess and Reagan will NOT LIKELY make the same mistakes twice. Why cant we learn from history and the mistakes of others? Why repeat the same old ones, like some McCain bots that have suggested that since REagan gave amnesty, well, it is OK if McCain does. That is not logic, that is pathetic.
SOMBODY, ANYONE….please explain:
No really—I want someone to explain to me why I should care what Ethel Kennedy thinks about anything ???
Why should anyone put any credence into who Ethel Kennedy endorses for President ???
Ethel isn’t even a Kennedy! She’s a Skakel. A Skank-el, actually.
Ethel is about one rung up from Joan Kennedy, and you know that’s coming next—who Joan Kennedy thinks we all should vote for…..Actually, I would listen to Joan before I’d listen to Ethel. Is Joan Kennedy even lucid these days? Maybe Teddy will finally get around to murdering her before the next tell-all.
Caroline, I could understand. Teddy–I don’t like, but at least they’ve got Kennedy blood.
Ethel Skakel Kennedy isn’t even one of them. They don’t even like her. Rose thought she was an idiot, and they never talked to her.
So, why should I care who a Skakel thinks would be best for President?????
As to FOX NEWS, I stopped watching it almost completely. My husband and I met a few years ago and we both loved it. Now, we are both starting to realize that it is becoming a left leaning news network. It is being run now, as I understand, by Murdoch’s son, who is a lib. I now only watch Hannity sometimes, Saturday financial shows once in a while, once in a blue moon O’REilly (but he is sooo full of himself) and Glenn Beck on CNN is fas becoming one of my favorite shows.
#72 On February 3rd, 2008 at 3:18 pm, coffee260 said:
“Here’s how I feel about this election. That is if McCain’s our nominee.
A Clinton presidency will destroy our country, but it won’t destroy my dignity.
A vote for McCain will destroy both.”
Very well put!
#73 On February 3rd, 2008 at 3:48 pm, zorro said:
Whether McCain or Hillary or Obama wins the White House, the odds are we will all survive. I lived through the misery of the Carter recession, stagflation, military defeat and humiliation. We’ll live through the term of which ever one of the above Three Stooges wins (no offence to the real Three Stooges).
HEY!, they resemble that remark!!
(Good post.)
Thought I’d pass this on to you all. Well, with the Clintons back in the WH, I guess we can kiss the US of A away. Now, the gov’t will want to control our money. Sad situation. I doubt even the SCOTUS will interfere, except to agree with her and the Congress:
WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans. The New York senator has criticized presidential rival Barack Obama for pushing a health plan that would not require universal coverage. Clinton has not always specified the enforcement measures she would embrace, but when pressed on ABC’s “This Week,” she said: “I think there are a number of mechanisms” that are possible, including “going after people’s wages, automatic enrollment.”
Guess this removes some of the doubt as to whether she’d be dangerous and scary to have as President.
DesertLover,
We get screwed more ways from Sunday if McShamnesty gets elected. First he becomes President (ugh), then “she of the comfortable shoes” gets to pick someone to replace him (double argh). Then we will see how high this tidal wave of illegal immigration grows and destroys our state. What happens when Mcshamnesty appoints Juan Hernandez as DHS Sec? *Shudder*
Well, we lost a battle today but appear to be slowly winning the war.
Our little question campaign to Chris Wallace apparently bore no fruit – every substantial question which needed to be asked was ignored. However, Romney’s poll numbers are on the rise. Reagan wouldn’t want us to all be quitters and defeatists and we’re not.
WHY TO KEEP PUSHIMG HARD FOR ROMNEY AND ACTIVELY AGAINST MCCAIN:
1. Romney is polling neck and neck. The word is getting out. This means YOU are GETTING the word out. KEEP DOING IT EVERY DAY – OUR NATION IS AT STAKE.
2. Brit Hume et al are starting to bemoan Romney’s seeming – grossly presumptive – defeat. This is hugely significant. It’s a good thing! They hear their core audience low and clear, and whether they pull actively for Romney or simply bemoan his poll standings, either event makes more moderate audience members think twice – and reconsider their vote. Things like this influence elections tremendously, as is evidenced by Romney’s rising poll numbers.
3. The anti-McCain sentiment, which is intense and growing, is becoming an ongoing news story. Not a big one, but they can’t ignore the will of the people forever and not pay a price, Fox News especially, knows that, and in the end everyone is looking out for themselves. Every time you post on a message board, or call a talk radio show, or write to your local newspaper, or ride with a bumper sticker or talk to your friends and neighbors passionately, you make that story grow and grow and grow.
DON’T STOP NOW. ROMNEY IS NECK AND NECK WITH MCCAIN NATIONALLY AND WE HAVE ANOTHER 2 WHOLE DAYS TO GRASP VICTORY WHERE THERE WAS ONCE ONLY DEFEAT. FOR THE SAKE OF YOURSELVES, YOUR KIDS, YOUR FUTURE, DON’T STOP NOW! KEEP MAKING YOUR VOICES HEARD, LOUDER MORE MORE THAN EVER.
THE FACT IS IT’S WORKING. KEEP IT UP!
Mr Conservative cat takes a small bow for his famous TYPE-O’S.
My apologies. We’re all in a rush around here today.
Fox is starting to tick me off big time.
The beltway boys – Barnes and Kondracke -
don’t have a clue. Mort is always a mushy moderate and Barnes is just blah blah blah. They bring on Novak who is a pompus ass. Brit Hume is the best on Fox !
I put a Romney bumper sticker on the back of my car and I am also putting one on the front windshield. We are voting for Romney in TX but not till March. Our governor in TX endorsed McCain but I don’t think Texans are very happy with this guy anyway. The huckster though is strong here. I am still buffled by people who fall for a Bible quoting preacher without looking at his fruit. Now I understand more how TV evangelists like Benny Hihn (sp?) and other swinders have been able to get so rich.
Mitt Romney is NOT a Conservative…..why on earth should I vote for him??
He has NO experience in the War on Terror.
He wouldn’t know what to do if Israel was attacked by Iran.
He wouldn’t know what to do if we were attacked by Iran.
The guy lies back and forth and uses other people’s terms as though they were his own.
He is plastic and fake and has no real Conservative ideas.
Compared to McCain, Hillary or Obama would walk all over this guy.
A vote for Romney is a vote for Hillary or Obama.
Azygos
I feel your pain … best we can hope for is Romney so we can get a chance to vote McCain out of office next time around …
With McCain you get a promise for “comprehensive immigration reform”, ie., amnesty, (see Juan Hernandez). With Romney you get a chance at more enforcement of current laws, which, if allowed, can solve the problem with “attrition through enforcement”. There is no issue more important to me than stopping the invasion of the USA that has, at last count, resulted in as many as 30 million people here illegally. Advantage Romney on the MOST inportant issue IMO that exist today.
On illegal immigration McCain will be as bad, or worse than Hillary or Obama.
For me Romney is a VERY easy choice.
Mitt Romney is the only governor in the race that ever ran anything a state and a company (The Only Rainmaker) Remember the economy? Hillary covered up her husbands women problems, that is the extent of her experience and internship. McCain is not a Conservative never has been doesn’t look like he is interested in starting, given his choice of supporters i.e. Juan Hernandez. Huckabee wants to be somebody’s VP. All the Gloom and Doom the Presidency is not a Coronation there are two other branches of Government, and the President’s powers are limited.
This on the DrudgeReport today:
HILLARY WARNS: Garnish wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance!
Just thought I’d pass the word along.
Adolph Hillary.
Zieg Hi Y’all!
Mr_Conservative_Cat
I just watched FNS we did win a battle 1 out of 5 questions was asked, not excactly how it was framed in the above but he did ask McCain if he would sign a tax bill if the Democrat Congress sent a tax increase to his desk, McCain said “NO” and Chris said would you promise not to raise taxes, McCain said “YES”
So to be fair to Chris he did ask that single question. Let the war proceed.
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BTW I’m decided.
Romney is the only chance we have for sane governance.
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And as others above have pointed out, he’s
- the only one with any successful executive experience, and
- the only one who has ever run any kind of large organization successfully
- the only one who has directly carried the weight of responsibility for the well being of others on any serious scale
- the only one who has a history as a successful decision maker
And he’s done it in business and government.
He managed to get conservative measures through in the state of Massachusetts of all places!
Huckleberry has no shot. And his management of Arkansas is no showpiece!
The others are just wannabe’s. Politicians. Talkers. Posers and posturers. With no executive experience whatever!
Romney is the only rational choice left.
FROM:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/may2006/murd-m10.shtml
Rupert Murdoch backs Hillary Clinton: by their friends you shall know them.
By Bill Van Auken, Socialist Equality Party candidate for US Senate from New York
10 May 2006
The billionaire media magnate Rupert Murdoch changed his nationality from Australian to American some two decades ago in order to further his aim of gobbling up US media for his global empire. In both countries, he projected an image of a super-patriot and nationalist.
When it comes to politics, Murdoch, known in media circles as the “dirty digger,” is equally adaptable in pursuing his personal gain.
The most loyal right-wing Tory and friend of Margaret Thatcher during the 1980s, as he built up his media holdings in Britain, he switched his loyalties to “New Labour” when he saw that Tony Blair could provide a fresh face for even more reactionary politics and was more than willing to further Murdoch’s interests in return for editorial backing. He made similar swings in his native Australia between the Labor and Liberal parties to further his efforts at monopolizing the print and broadcast media.
So, it should really come as no surprise that Murdoch is now emerging as a prominent backer of the Democratic US Senator from New York, Hillary Clinton. The Financial Times of London reported Tuesday that Murdoch will personally host a July fundraiser for Mrs. Clinton on behalf of his News Corp.
………………
CLICK LINK ABOVE FOR FULL STORY.
She’s still alive?
Murdoch goves money to all kinds of canidates he covers his bases.
There isn’t going to be a PERFECT canidate I am basing my decisions right now on who I couldn’t possibly vote for if the Politicians can’t figure out they have bit off more then the AMERICAN people can chew, it is their problem not mine. I don’t trust a man who has Juan Hernandez as an unpaid volunteer. I don’t need a house to fall on me! Next is Romney, he ain’t perfect but who is? They didn’t get the message last summer, we don’t want amnesty any way they try and dress it up. “No Changes are Permanent” they will run amnesty by us again, that is what they are counting on us being scared by a Hillary Clinton Presidency, and caving in. I don’t vote from Fear. This isn’t a partisan issue, plenty of Democrats are against Amnesty too. This is an American Issue. I am an Independent, how many Independents and Swing Voters are going to vote for Change in the 2008 election?
A conversation similar to this one is going on Monica Crowley’s blog.
http://monicamemo.typepad.com/weblog/2008/02/the-mclaughlin.html
Sounds like you been listening to the McCain suck-up, Huckleberry. Romney has a far better chance of beating Hillary/Obama than the tired, worn-out looking McCain, who would be blow away in a debate with either of the Dems.
Yea, so? Roger Ailes, who was in the Reagan White House, runs the News Division and built it up to be the powerhouse that it is. He is said to have much autonomy and as you post points out, Rupert is not one to mess with a gold mine – which Fox has become for him.
What I can’t figure out is if Roger is asleep at the wheel and thinks their current state is fair&balanced, or what is going on. I think its less to do with Murdoch though.
Some very credible polls have Romney ahead in California AND Georgia. There’s no reason for all the McCain-doom-and-gloom just yet!
Mitt Romney doesn’t give up as easily as some of y’all.
I’m an old warrior who initially thought that McCain should be the republican nominee.
The more I see that whinny girl with a secret… smug smile on his face (never mind his talking points)the more I am reminded that he is nothing but a POW and an Arizona senator.
Guess what John, you lost me a long time ago.
I am solidly backing Mitt Romney.
McCain is the flip flopper, and Romney is the the real fresh face.
Many of us have long called for term limits … and we have also come to the conclusion that the only way we can ever get them is to impose them at the ballot box … the change we need in DC is not just the oval office … we must get rid of the old guard that has been there so long that they are too chummy with the lobbyists and the PACs and out of touch with the people they were elected to represent …
The presidency is not the only important issue come November … we must clean out the house and senate of those ignoring the will of the people … no matter what political party they belong to …
We can’t wait … the effort must start now …