Hey, Bob Dole, get back in your cage; Update: McCain camp plays the absolute moral authority card
Update: The McCain camp goes after Romney for razzing Bob Dole–by hauling out the Absolute Moral Authority card. Geez.
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A long, long time ago, I worked in the political videotape library at NBC News in Washington. We logged field tapes, input rough transcriptions with time codes, and helped compile clip reels. The liberal producers liked to string together Republican candidates’ embarrassing moments over the years. One of the favorites was of a snarling Bob Dole on the campaign trail in New Hampshire in 1988.
Confronted by a hostile voter, he snapped: “Get back in your cage.”
Dole went on to lose in 1988 and lose in 1996.
But he hasn’t stopped telling people to shut up.
Naturally, he’s a John McCain supporter and you’ve probably already read about his letter to Rush Limbaugh advising the talk show giant to lay off his good friend.
Hush, hush, the McCain people keep telling us. Stop yer jabbering about the GOP back-stabbing, media-pandering, homeland security-undermining, First Amendment-trashing Maverick.
It’s like the shamnesty debacle all over again, with Bob Dole playing the role of Trent “talk radio is the problem” Lott.
There’s only one proper response to Bob Dole’s attack on Rush for highlighting John McCain’s repeated attacks on conservaties:
Get back in your cage, Bob.
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OK, now more reason not to vote for McCan’t.
I’m voting Romney tomorrow in CA. I live in a small town, but it will be interesting to gauge the “atmosphere” when we go to vote.
Even though the polls say McCan’t is ahead of Romney in most states, remember, so was Obama when Hillbilly made a huge comeback to win in DE.
You can’t trust the polls in this election. GO VOTE!!!
Oh yeah, and one more thing.
Bob Dole’s still alive?
Please give us a full report tomorrow on the mood and scuttle in your polling site.
Good luck and thank you!
No more than four hours at a time.
I’m in a red county in CA. And yes, there are lots of red counties here, just not near the two main cities — SF and LA.
But the nutbags have started to infiltrate our nice, small town. Sigh, how nice things used to be around here.
You’d think that taking that blue pill would prevent him from rolling out of bed and hitting his head.
And take McCain with you.
I wish it were not so predictable…this knee-jerk break-over by the political class rallying to support one of their own. Sadly, it is sooooo predictable.
I see Dole and McCain as very similar in some fundamental ways…not good ways, either. Both are losers in certain terribly important venues in which they insist on inserting themselves; both fatally flawed and “wrong for their time”. Yet, both are men to whom we, paradoxically, owe a heart-felt salute and our lasting gratitude for their service of long, long ago.
I only wish they would leave it at that…
Dole is just playing herald for another Republican who ‘deserves to have his turn’. McCain will wind up suffering the same fate that Dole did, possibly at the hands of another Clinton.
Ironic, much?
Dole’s trying to be relevant to the republican party and he isn’t.
This primary season is really showing us how some “Republican” or “conservative” individuals are really clueless, deep down. Some of them seem to be praising Obama, based on a City Journal article, and others, including Dole, of course, are supporting McCain. We should remember who these people are. While it would always be nice to have their support for various causes and issues after the election, support for McCain, especially during the primary season, just shows that their political outlook is rudderless.
There are followers on both side of the political divide. Unfortunately, at the moment, all of ours are grabbing onto the coattails of Straight Talk, who’ll lead them to the milquetoast promise land.
Either that, or the Democrats will win. There won’t be a vast ocean of difference whatever the result.
On O’Reilly Dole said someone from his office sent Rush the email for him becuase he (Dole) didn’t know how email works. Dad gum new fangled interwebernet thing!
Just how much uphill boulder rolling are we going to be forced to do so we can hire free and clear at least a moderate Conservative?
Institutionalized politics go. to. hell.
I don’t care a damn, who’s the next, old, liberal, Republican.
Dust off the old CLinton play book. “How to beat a war hero.” First they took down George H.W. Bush then Dole. Give them Mccant and it will be another repeat. Give them Mitt, they’ll have a fit.
The talking-head question to Dole should be obvious: “If you’re so f’ing smart, how come you lost?”
Bob Dole defending McCain is like Bill defending Hillary.
How desparate can you be to dig up Dole (a loser) to run to your defense?
Looks like I’m voting “none of the above” in the fall. Depressing.
I didn’t read Dole’s letter as an attack on Rush Limbaugh, or as an attempt to “silence” anyone. Given his closing, it’s more likely that he, like more and more Republicans, (1) hasn’t developed a convenient case of amnesia/laryngitis about just what the hell happened from 1993-1999, and (2) realizes that from the available field of candidates McCain’s the only guy with a realistic chance of preventing it from re-occurring.
But Michelle says he should be “put in a cage” while the chorus hurls petty and sophomoric insults at the man. Who is really calling for others to be silenced here?
I’ve always been proud to be part of this blog’s community, but on this topic it’s getting harder by the day to distinguish it from the comment sections of DU, Kos or Huffington Post.
Thanks with all my heart, from close enough to the Texas/Mexico border, here in Texas… I’ll be voting for Romney on March 4 – to the great unhappiness and consternation of Rick Perry and Kay Bailey Hutchison.
I really hope that Romney wins.
I voted against Robert Dole and against McCain, every time their names hit National ballots. Exactly the same as if it had been Toady Chappaquiddick or Hanoi John’s names.
I really hope Romney gets this nomination in a big enough measure to give him a SOLID standing.
UNLIKE McCAIN’S STANDING IN ARIZONA – HAW HAW HAW.
But if worst comes to worst, I have my short list of Conservatives to WRITE IN in November.
If it takes sinking the GOP to get THAT RAT off the Captain’s Deck, so be it.
I suppose you missed the entire point of the article, or the context of that quote, which was derived from Dole’s own attempt to “silence” others.
By the way, McCain isn’t the only way.
NOT HARDLY BY A FLAMING LONG SHOT.
Robert Dole and McCain are both BACKSTABBERS of the FIRST ORDER.
You cannot swath them in the AMERICAN FLAG and hide the STENCH of them from the GOP.
Both should have gone to the DIMS, where ETHICS DO NOT MATTER.
As opne who refused to vote for DOLE – I have a RIGHT to say whay I voted AGAINST him.
Clinton didn’t have ANYTHING to do with it – and it wasn’t because I thought more of Bill Vacuum Cleaner Nose in company of BIMBO ERUPTION COMMITTEE than I do of Hildebeast.
Go get a saline solution for your sinus cavities before you blow your nose on us again.
I’ll say it again:
NO MORE LESSER OF TWO EVILS.
The Rep. pundents are already starting.
American Thinker’s K.A.Shiver is touting the old Rep. platitudes (vote for a good centrist Rep.) that have gotten us into this free-fall.
She is not the only one.
Rush is right.
I can’t go as far as Ann Coulter and vote for Hillary (Ann you were kidding – Right?).
Arnold was the last liberal that I will vote for.
Great! Old vain geezer from the past reminds me of why I supported Papa Bush over him the 1st time he ran. And for the second time around, voted for Perot, thereby giving Slick 4 more years.
If McVain wins the nomination, he will not get my vote, plain & simple. I don’t care if the Donks win, at least the message will be clear to the GOP that the Rockefellerians & Roosevelt-progressives that they need to schlep their baggage across the aisle.
Michelle, look, you know I love you, but you really need to accept the reality that McCain is likely going to be the R nomination. Harping on why you don’t like him now won’t make any difference other than make you look like a shrew.
You don’t have to ’shut up’, but these issues that you are bringing up aren’t going to change the outcome of the situation. George Bush felt the exact same way that McCain felt on amnesty. Romney has illegal workers at his home. Have you heard that McCain or any of the other candidates had illegals working for them?
Like I said, I don’t like McCain any more than you do. I don’t like Hillary either. But I don’t go about my day making sure that everyone knows all my reasons for not liking Hillary.
We get that you want secure borders and NO AMNESTY. Even if McCain gets the nomination we can still fight against it in Congress. He says he wants to build the fence first and secure the borders. That’s a first step. Let him do that. Hold his feet to the fire to get those governors to sign off that the borders are secure.
In 4 years, if that’s accomplished, we can move on to something else.
McCain-Feingold probably hurt McCain more than anyone. I’m not trying to tell you what to do. . . but your vitriol against McCain over and over again won’t do anything but make you look like a shrew.
Your objection has been duly noted. America still votes to determine who wins. It might be time to concede and move on to the next strategic move in moving a conservative agenda forward that I think you’d be surprised to find McCain in agreement with the majority of your other conservative desires.
Again, I agree with you on McCain bashing. I just think it’s getting a little old and it’s not working. Just a little constructive criticism. Carry on with the bashing of McCain. How do you hate McCain, let us count the ways. . .
So did Dole then send a “my friend” e-mail to say oh no not so Rush. Well no, but by telling the world Dole reminded Rush of McVain’s conservative ways. That is a shot at Romney and those damm conservatives that don’t see the world through Dole color lenses. The target is not Rush but rather us who will vote for Romney and Romney as opposition to McVain. But when confronted by Hannity on H&C/02-04-08 about McVains recent record Dole could only say McVain had always cooperated with him/Dole. Ya, Dole is a friend who wore a McVain prisoner of war bracelet while McVain was shacked up in the Hanoi Hilton with a Viet comfort nurse as a “special prisoner”. Those war heroes sure knows one when they sees’em.
I totally disagree Thacker. Michelle, keep the heat on McCain, and let’s see if it helps Romney tomorrow. I see nothing wrong with you pointing the truth out for all to see regarding McCain. By the way Thacker, when are you going to get some new talking points to dis Romney on, that “he hired illegals” is getting old and has been disproved countless times.
A FEW OBVIOUS POINTS WHICH ARE NOT JUST OBVIOUS, BUT APARENTLY INVISIBLE TO SOME
That’s the world, “my friend”. There is no such thing as perfection, ever, unless you include God. Every decision you make is a “best choice” decision – which is exactly what the lesser of two evils is about. Stay home and put a completely inexperienced, volatile, ultra-left-wing socialist woman into the white house and hundreds of thousands may die from terror attacks on an insecure and outwardly weakened America than might otherwise not have died before. How will your conscience stand then? Can you still look at yourself in the mirror and say you did the right thing? Are you that delusional and filled with hubris?
This is called backlash, and it’s about high time. Year after year, decade after the decade the left plays a dirty game and gets away with it because they don’t have any outward illusions about their own morality. In the meantime, Conservatives are supposed to live their lives in a seeming expected long-suffering mode and losing elections and socio-political ground, because to be tough sometimes means to be “ungentlemanly”, and that, the secularists educate us, isn’t Christian, and so tough conservatives are painted as hypocrites. Or worse. Often much worse.
Enough is enough.
How was the race portrayed where you live, Regulus? Here in the northeast and nationally, here’s what was witnessed: The candidates’ stories always start with the Democrats, as though Republicans are a national footnote. Then the Republican story leads with John McCain and not a damn thing about the Conservative base disliking him except in talking head shows. Nothing about the awful stories on him which will be front page, every day, 10 seconds after he gets the nomination. Mitt Romney? Romney was the invisible man, less air time in general caucus stories, otherwise unseen, while McCain and Huckabee stories abound. In other words, the most conservative candidate is being ignored as much as possible to make him irrelevant. This is not opinion, this is manifest reality. Check your local listings.
We’re fed up. We’re all fed up.
We’re fed up with trying to maintain the founding father’s intentions of a moral, God-fearing country and being characterized as a fringe element.
We’re fed up with being silenced and then being told we’re intolerant when we speak our minds.
We’re fed up with having our citing of a candidate’s negative record in all respects being characterized as mean-spirited when these aspects of a man wishing to be the most powerful man in the world are not just legitimate, but absolutely necessary talking points.
And when Dole trots out, a loser in the very real sense of the word, and begins more of the same, same, same, while those we support are made invisible and the people who support them marginalized and characterized as kooks, you damn well better believe we’ll tell Dole and the rest of them to get back in their cages, shut the g*ddamn door and throw away the key.
There’s an anger welling up, a boiling point being reached, an explosion on the edge of ignition. This year has been the most heinous misuse of media first amendment right this country has literally ever seen, and as always, it is the conservatives – those irrelevant, fringe-element kooks, always blabbering on and on about God and doing the right thing, who are again seeing their fair share of the national debate stripped from them by being made marginal in every possible respect.
If you don’t get it Regulus, then you can stuff it. That’s my first amendment right being utilized in unapologetic response to yours.
Thacker
Wake up. You should. Why? Because no country is beyond ruin. Carter came close, if you were there and recall what a shambles this country was in. Hillary with Pelosi and Reid, God help us, would be many more times worse. Don’t want to talk about it? Fine. But others do. Because they clearly care more about it than you do, and about that, despite your anticipated whining about how much you do care, there can be no debate.
We all know Michelle needs no defending from any of us, but just out of curiosity, just who the hell do you think you are?
So, Thacker, I have a 2-part suggestion for you: 1. Apologize to the host who was nice enough to give you a free membership here and 2. take your fatalism somewhere people will appreciate it. You act as if repeating the same concerns over and over again is somehow inappropriate. Wise up. Obviously, you don’t get it. It’s all many people have left – and to say repeating something over and over will make no difference, if nothing else, shows you’ve never stepped foot on Madison Avenue, where in advertising, repetition is the key. I know. I’ve spent a good portion of my life there.
Same to you. And like our friend Regulus, you, too, can stuff it.
That’s my use of the first Amendment, Thacker.
Now step out of the way, know-it-all; some of us are trying to save a country around here.
Where is Jesse Helms when we need him?
I know, he’s from my state and he is practically an invalid.
He wouldn’t put up with this crap for one second!!!!!!
Another true diehard conservative that I sorely miss!
If McCain wins, it will be a first I thought I would never see…liberal candidates on both sides. No wonder the Democrats want McCain to get the nomination. They win in November no matter what happens.
No more compromise. Anyone who says McCain is the nominee must have missed government class. WE GET TO VOTE ON IT.
I am not a Republican first. I am a Christian, then a Conservative, and then about 304 down the line Republican.
I am sick and tired of being told to accept what my betters have to decided. I am also sick of people who trot that line out, and then finish it off with either: “do you want [insert first name] Clinton?” or “if you don’t the Democrats will win”. Yea? So? What’s the difference? None as far as I can tell.
I am tired of carrying the water for the country club Republicans who expect me to help them while they lie, cheat, and steal from me.
They have shown me no loyalty, so I am going to treat them just as they have treated me. Like dirt. I am walking if McCain is the nominee.
The idea we need to fall in line like good little boys and girls is insulting. It’s the attitude of the left, which is exactly the problem with McCain — and everyone who demands we shut up and play ball– and all the “get in line”rs like Thacker above.
You need to wake up and stop being led around by your nose. Winning is not what matters. If you win and get the same bs as if you lost; then it’s a loss.
If McCain is the R, then I am independant, and voting for someone with a clue. Is Micky Mouse running?
McCain and Hillary are two shades of gray. Dark Gray heading toward black, like night, like evil. So what if the letter after the name is R? so what!
If you want a preview of the McCain Presidency, take a look as Cali and Ahnold. I live here, and he sucks. He is just like McCain, and that’s the problem.
Frankly the best thing that could happen is for the Dems to get elected and send the economy into a tailspin, pull our troops back so we are attacked again; that would be the end of liberals. Gingrich had a chance to break the Dems and he didn’t. Now he is desparate to get back into power, and will do whatever it takes including working for the Devil aka McCain. Sickening.
If it comes down to a Mccain or Obama choice, I’ll seriously consider voting for Obama. That would be a first step in disenfranchising ‘The Justice Brothers’, Jesse & Al and the rest of the divisive ‘Hate Industry’.
All in all it still has to be ‘anyone but Hillary’, (Joe Stalin in drag).
How anyone can defend Juan McCain and his constant lying to the American people is beyond me.
Do any of you McCain defenders remember Kennedy/McCain?
“It’s not Amnesty”
Sure and you are conservative. LOL
Yes on Mitt Romney no on John Mccain
Bob Dole just showed us why this party needs to be torn down to the core and rebuilt. Just the fact that these old fools don’t know how to keep their mouths shut is more than enough for me!
The campaign is not over. Polls are no substitute for elections. If we listened to the polls, John Friggin Kerry would be president. And I also resent you referring to our hostess as a “shrew”. Not cool.
And Bob Dole should stick to shuffle board and leave conservatism to conservatives.
I’m suprised Dole is not running his WWII political commercial, that he ran over and over and over evertime he ran for the Senate, with the exception of saying “I’m Bob Dole I was a wounded Veteran too and I support John McCain”
Bob Dole is a WWII hero … Thank you Bob …
John McCain is a Viet Nam War hero … Thank you John …
Bob … you are currently working at Walter Reed hospital on Veteran’s Care issues … thanks again …
Now John … What Have You Done For Me Lately ????
Crickets anyone ????
and awayyyyyyyyyy we go…. fox and friends is already a McCain fest this morning…… and last night and yesterday…and blah blah blah….fair and balanced? ah, yeah right oh and throw in their love fest for Huckty Dumpty and now Rudy and we have a McCain trifecta… agh!
aj … did I doze off and miss it this morning? … they said Shrillary was going to be on but then they had “technical difficulties” with that … did she ever show up?
Rudy must be back in NY for the Giants parade. They better give Romney some equal time today.
I missed the first hour dl, got up a lil later this a.m. But they were saying something about her passing out dunkin donuts coffee a few mins ago when she arrives at her poll, ok there’s Romney.
Dole and McCain are known in the Senate for one single character trait: compromise. We cannot have that any longer. We know how much glowing tribute Dole got when he quit the Senate to run for the White House — almost exclusively from Democrats — about what a compromising person he was.
Then it was off to campaign against someone who refused to compromise. Any questions on who won? If McCain (the dreadful attempt at the reincarnation of Bob Dole) gets the nomination, he will be too busy stroking the ego of Hillary while she uncompromisingly stabs him in the back.
Conservatives will stay home, just like they did in ‘92 and ‘96.
In that case, make way for President Rodham.
So far they mentioned that everyone was going to be on this morning … but the Hildebeast didn’t show when she was scheduled …
I would like to say good morning to everyone and wish you all a Happy Super Tuesday.
Go Mitt!
ACHefty
I agree with that concern … people have to quit paying any attention to polls and think and and ask questions and analyze the answers for themselves …
then vote for the person they feel is best .. not the media darling of the moment …
aj … same from here to everyone …
yuk … Hill is next? … where;s that remote … gonna need the mute button to silence the cackle … no need to ruin the day already …
The paper ballots they were talking about were defective, they sent me a replacement that was ok, you have to draw a line to connect an arrow to make it a solid arrow for you’re candidate. I’m glad I waited to fill it out because I received it when Thompson was still in the race. But, how many people now have extra ballots from riverside county and will they cross reference to see if the people have sent in both?
Translation:
Its a Cluster……
This from the tax collector for the welfare state should boost McCainnedy’s street cred with conservatives.
A McCain win in the primaries means a win for Clinton or Obama. The beauty contest that ensues after Super Tuesday will defeat him, even if his duplicitous views on social issues won’t.
Since the only way we ever hear about McCain’s unforgivable short-comings is from our friends in talk radio and bloggers, like the Mighty Michelle, the left – that includes lots of the “good old boys – have to try and shut them up. Long live the freedom of speech, so SHUT UP YOU LEFTIES!
Romney can beat Obama, I think for sure. But he has an uphill battle against Clinton.
Whilst exhibiting a strange blue hue.
Laura Ingraham on Fox now. Doesn’t like McCain but will vote for him, if he is nominee.
I find it droll that surely Bob Dole once played a role shilling for the little blue pill. Now he shills for his RINO friend and is trying to stick it to our rear sides.
Say no to Dole as the poll mole for the flaming RINO.
I just emailed Rush telling him how much we need his continued support to take back the Republican party. Does anyone know how to email Bob Dole????
I remember Bob Dole in the senate. He and his wife are both the same…weak, mushy, ineffective leaders. Mrs Dole was head of the Republican campaign committee in 2005/6 and did a very poor job. Bob Dole, go back to Kansas and retire…go play golf.
When I read the Dole letter, I couldn’t help but notice that he’d inserted a few zingers AGAINST St. John (like he didn’t believe Romney called for a pull-out time table).
Like many here, I have been pragmatic, and voted for the lesser of evils. I liked George Bush generally, but I knew he was not a strong conservative. I voted for him as by far the better leader for our nation, and I’ve not regretted it when put in context of what our choices were.
But there are limits to all pragmatism, beyond which only cynics will go. I am not cynical about the Constitution. John McCain is no friend of the Constitution. Neither, of course, is Clinton (either one). I concluded I am faced with a stark choice: vote for one of these people (if McCain is actually the nominee), or vote for the Constitution. Given that choice, I will cast my vote for the latter.
I am also versed enough in market economics to know this: when the market has failed to provide you an acceptable product, you signal that failure to the market. Abstention from buying (voting with your dollar) is one way to send that signal. Sometimes it is the ONLY way.
Markets are much more “pure” than are politics. The “political marketplace” is highly distorted (look at these “winner-take-all” states, engineered to favor one candidate, or the grossly inordinate influence of Iowa and New Hampshire). The current political marketplace is hideously twisted by McCain-Feingold, as it was intended to be.
But it is true that any market participant, no matter how arrogant they may be, is forced to pay attention to the signals (even the distorted ones) that come to him or her, or figuratively die.
I know too well the dangers of a Clinton presidency in the years of aging justices ahead. I quail to think of the mischief that could come to the nation and our Constitution from her appointments, or those of Obama. But I also know that, if we keep sending the signal to the political market that the goods they offer are acceptable, the offerings will never change.
That is unacceptable to me.
Time to act like grownups and support McCain.
Sorry Derel today is not over yet….
Go Mitt!
Would love to see it. AJ.
Whoever comes out on top we need to support. Otherwise, we’re as good as Naderites or Ron Paul supporters.
As AJ said, “Today is not over yet.” Plus, blind allegiance is not necessarily being grownup, just easily led.
I vote on principle, not partisanship.
Looks like the Republican establishment is moving beyond indifference and contempt for their base into active hostility. That’s swift thinking, guys. Whatever happened to sweet talk and flowers? Now it’s just “Shut up and get on the bed,” or with the program as the case may be. I find this terribly offensive. If I want someone to tell me to shut up and vote right, I go to my woman, not some old coot.
Ragspierre
Especially agree with the concern about appointing Supreme Court Justices in the next 4 years …
Here are the current judges, their ages, and who appointed them.
Conservative Justices
Roberts, age 53, Bush 2
Scalia, age 71, Reagan
Thomas, age 59, Bush 1
Alito, age 57, Bush 2
Liberal Justices
Stevens, age 87, Ford
Souter, age 68, Bush 1
Ginsburg, age 74, Clinton
Breyer, age 69, Clinton
Moderate Justices
Kennedy, age 71, Reagan
There have only been 4 Presidents that did not appoint a justice to the Supreme Court during their presidency:
William Henry Harrison (died in office)
Zachary Taylor (died in office)
Andrew Johnson (post civil war restrictions)
Jimmy Carter (Thank God for that one)
Based on this you have to expect that the next President is going to get to appoint someone to SCOTUS.
I sure don’t want a Clinton appointing another Ginsburg or Breyer or Stevens or Souter. Especially if the opening is due to one of the conservatives retiring or passing away.
I would not even be surprised to see someone on the Liberal side retire just to be sure Clinton or Obama gets to appoint another Liberal justice.
Something to think about folks.
Exactly. And the two oldest ones most likely to retire are the libs Stevens and Ginsburg. Imagine having to replace them with liberals again, and most likely young ones that will be there for a couple of generations at least.
DesertLover,
I don’t even consider it a possibility…I think it is a certainty that the next PROTUS will have…at VERY least…one appointment to make. There is a real chance they will have up to four.
Is a President McCain likely to appoint better judges than a President Clinton? I think not only is it likely they will not be fundamentally different, I greatly fear they could be from the same list.
What do we have to indicate otherwise? His promise to appoint conservative judges?
The man has shown a fundamental dishonesty. He lies. He is not an honorable person…bottom line.
So, while we cringe for the future of the nation, I think we are left with the choice of telling our political system we will not accept the crap we have been served this election cycle.
Mr. Romney could do…he is very well positioned to do it…what Reagan did after he was rebuffed by the GOP. He could begin to build a killer base of support by quietly supporting real conservatives for the House and Senate, and in the statehouses across the nation.
There will be a next time… Hopefully in four years, if things go ill this time around.
We have enough of a problem with what’s happening to our society/culture/nation without cheap shots such as expressing surprise that Bob Dole is still alive.
Those comments are bush league (absolutely no pun intended), pure and simple.
BTW, I do not disagree politically – I just believe we should hold ourselves to a better, adult standard; and not stoop to the gratuitous, sophomoric, silly, first- and second-grade joke, ad hominem comments which the socialists are sooooo generous at providing.
OK…class dismissed!
Ragspierre
Understand … I was just trying to expand the information to support your other post for others to consider the ramifications many are not even looking at in this election …
Even here many do not take the time to research the issues brought up by other posts …
Unfortunately …
The more the icons of the Republican Party tell conservatives to shut up and color on the liberal Juan McAmnesty the more we will revolt. From what I hear on Rush and Hannity the self identified conservative callers will absolutely not vote for John McCain. I just quit watching Fox News this morning getting ready for work due to their fawning all over Capt Queqe and the tabloid flavor of the news, now it’s the Weather Channel again and in the evening the new media. I hope conservatives come out in force today to smack down the MSM, the Stupid Party, and this man not fit to hold Ronald Reagan’s jock strap.
Translation: Move along people…. Nothing to see here… Move along…
While I respect Mr. Dole for his service, I really don’t like how he and Ford took the Republican party more to the accommodator left position. He was a doormat just like Ford. They mean “well” but often things don’t go that way.
Dole is a very nice old man but from a different generation. He and Ford were nothing but accommodators. That being said, I like Elizabeth Dole a whole lot more than her husband. I really feel that the women of the Republican party have more cajones than do the men.
I voted for Dole in 1996 (it was one of those hold the nose times) when I had just turned 18. My mind hasn’t really changed much over the years about him and I’m really hoping that in the event that McCain wins the nomination that he won’t be another Dole kind of candidate.
We really need to purge both political parties of the old heads and start investing in some new blood. I want the Republicans to remain relevant and when they have aged baby boomers (or those even older) running the party, there doesn’t seem to be a disconnect about the direction of the party. I’m 32, and I’m glad that the 21 house Republicans retired, even if it benefits the Dems.
Bob Dole, you’re a nice old man, now go play some canasta.
All the RINO establishment is telling us, the unwashed proletariat, to fall in line and support McCain – and telling us he’s really, really a conservative. We are supposed to overlook the un-Constitutional limits on free political speech, his attempts to bring amnesty to illegals, his voting against tax cuts, his Gang of 14 wresting of power from the Majority Leader Frist, his belief in Globaloney and that he can solve it with more government laws, and much more.
And then there’s his arrogant, mean, petty back-stabbing personality – what’s not for conservatives to like?
I don’t need Rush, or Hannity, or Michelle to tell me who to vote for, or against – as a conservative my choice is now clear. Go Mitt!
DesertLover
I took it exactly that way. I used your excellent points to expand on the concept that we are essentially left with a truly appalling choice (if McCain gets the nomination)…one candidate who is an unabashed socialist, and one who is an out-of-control stateist and member of the political elite who has no respect for the founding principles of this nation (i.e., sovereignty and the rule of law, free political speech, freedom to engage in enterprise and control property, freedom to contract, the people governing themselves, the role of the Senate in advise and consent on ONLY the fitness of a judicial candidate–not their political or judicial philosophy), etc.).
I read your comments often here, and find them well-considered and informed.
Start having quarterly (or even monthly) public celebrations of America.
All of the nutcases will realize they are out of place. Some may convert, some may leave. And some will get obnoxious and try to force their own culture on everyone else. Fight back. Accuse them of “cultural imperialism”. Call them on their bigotry. Or mock them, I suspect that will really hurt. A lot of them are really insecure, that’s part of why “liberals” can’t really tolerate diversity of opinion.
I meant there does seem to be a disconnect. My bad.
Ragspierre
Thanks for the kind words … I too enjoy reading the comments from many of the folks that post here … keep up the good work …
“Without knowledge there cannot be facts; without facts there cannot be truth; without truth there is nothing”
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granite
If you were from Missouri or Kansas you would laugh.
Bob Dole used the same commercial in his campaign’s all of his political career, actually a smart move because he did’nt have to have a new one produced thus saving him money for air time.
I agree Bob Dole and John McCain are as you would say Heros as I would say Patriots so yes thank’s for your service. I was’nt dogging their military service. Just giving him a hard time about his commercial which I must have seen 15,745 times.
Blind_Mule
I am originally from OK and my father was born in MO and my paternal grandparents spent most of their lives in western KS … so can relate …
Besides … my own father was a more decorated WWII hero than the 2 of them put together … but I will never belittle their service to this country … however, as I have said before, that does not translate into a free pass politically … I still need to see substance and values that I can believe in and which they support and I don’t see that in McCain …
#74 Blind_Mule :
I was not referring to your post #36.
That post was more than appropriate.
See earlier in this thread.
Romney coming on next on FNC
What utter nonsense. It makes her sound quite convincing. Thank goodness somebody is taking McCain to task. If you don’t like it, go to moveon.org blog. They will welcome you with open arms.
Keep it up Michele!!!
Ditto to #78
James Dobson has just hosed McCain in a statement read on Laura Ingrahm’s (sp?) show…
voters surely can separate the war record from the political record. McCain and Dole get a pass on everything because they were in the war? Please!
No, I haven’t heard that. What I have heard is how much McCain and Huckabee are working for the illegals.
DesertLover
I understand, you should be proud of your father as I am of my father in law, those guy’s went through pure he!!.
My dad was a pencil pusher in Germany during the Korean War, he jokes he should have gotten a purple for stubbing his toe on his desk so many times.
granite
Ok, I see what your talking about, my mistake.
#83 Blind_Mule
No sweat!
Rush should auction the letter and donate to Mitt
How about you start your own blog. I’m pretty sure you will have one fan. Regulus.
You can call it the Daily Brownshirt. You write the blogs and he’ll be eager to read it.
Blind_Mule
Thanks … but I am sure I am not the only one on here that could tell those kinds of personal stories about the service and true heroism of their family members in WWII, Korea, VietNam, the GWOT and lots of other conflicts …
God Bless all of our military … past, present and future …
Semper Fi
Rush is talking about the letter now. Has great respect for Bob Dole, and McCain is exploiting Doles letter to attack Romney. Typical McCain
Add Juan “Mexico First” Hernandez, McCain
Nice.
The blue-blood, country-clubbers from the “establishment” GOP — the ones that have always hated Ronald Reagan andthe people he brought into the party — are telling those of us trying to save the party from committing political suicide to shut up.
I won’t vote for McCain. I’ll vote, but 3rd party.
Hope The Stupid Party enjoys being a true minority party, just like it was under the likes of Bob Dole, Bob Michel and the rest of the Go-Along, Get-Along Gang. People who’ll sell out principles in a heartbeat and call it compromise just to advance the political process. Hey, agreeing with liberals gets you invites to the really cool D.C. cocktail parties — to be laughed at by the popular kids.