John McCain: La Raza’s voice in Washington

Artwork from an anti-borders art contest held by the John McCain-staffed Reform Institute
The McCain campaign continues to perpetuate its Big Lie in the run-up to Super Tuesday. And thanks to MSM enablers and open-borders Republicans rooting for a McCain win, voters are swallowing the Big Lie. The Big Lie is that McCain can be trusted on immigration and border security. Dinocrat reports that the McCain campaign called him again and left a recorded message touting the shamnesty promoter’s border security credentials. Here’s the text of the call:
On the issue of immigration there is no debate that our borders are broken. There are 12 million people here illegally. I’ve listened and learned. We must secure our borders first and restore trust and confidence in our government. As President, I’ll hire new border patrol guards, build a fence, ask governors to certify that their borders are secure. The two million people who have committed crimes will be deported immediately. No one will be rewarded for illegal behavior. They’ll go the the back of the line, pay fines and learn English. For those already in our country, there will be no special privileges, and we’ll punish employers who hire illegal immigrants. We’ll be humane and compassionate, but we will be firm. It’s a matter of national security.
According to the WaPo/ABC News poll released this weekend, 47% of respondents said McCain was the candidate they trusted most on immigration; 22% said Romney; 10% chose Huckabee; and 5% went with Paul.
If those voters knew about Juan Hernandez and Jerry Perenchio, McCain would be in single-digit Paul territory.
You want straight talk? McCain’s tongue says he’s “listened and learned.” But his heart is with La Raza, the militantly ethnocentric, anti-immigration enforcement Hispanic lobbying group that honored him in 1999 and whose annual conference he keynoted in 2004.
Go back and watch McCain on the Senate floor during the amnesty debate. Refresh your memories. Here he is comparing guest-worker tax treatment to Jim Crow laws:
Let me remind you of how he and his good friend Teddy Kennedy engaged in nauseating identity politics straight out of the Raza playbook. From May 25, 2006, these are the true, extremist views of John McCain:
An extraordinary exchange just took place on the Senate floor over the last 40 minutes. It’s the most important debate of the year, in my opinion.
The questions are these: Who do we let into this country and how many?
On one side of the debate: Democrat Sen. Jeff Bingaman of N.M. and Republican Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama.
On the other side, the blubbering open-borders duo of GOP Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Democrat Sen. Teddy Kennedy of Massachusetts.
Bingaman is offering an amendment to cap the number of visas for legal permanent residents at 650,000. The current Senate immigration bill essentially obliterates the current employer-based green card cap of 140,000. Spouses and children currently count against that cap. Under the Senate bill, that would no longer be true. There would be, in effect, no limits. Bingaman’s cap would be four times the current rate–yet both McCain and Kennedy are responding hysterically as if Bingaman has proposed some human rights crackdown on the world.
When Bingaman pointed out the need for prudence in opening the floodgates to unlimited numbers of low-skilled workers, both McCain and Kennedy pulled the race card. McCain’s immediate response was to sputter that the “Chamber of Commerce, unions, and Hispanic groups” oppose the caps! McCain called it un-American to be selective about whom we let into this country. Yeah, he did.
When McCain accused Bingaman of “discriminating against” poor immigrants, Bingaman pointed out that the McCain-Kennedy bill itself had a 290,000 cap. No response from the Open-Borders Tag Team.
Sen. Tom Coburn, a staunch amnesty opponent, has endorsed McCain. He’s letting bygones be bygones in the spirit of senatorial collegiality.
But I remind you that McCain refused to support Coburn’s amendment to the shamnesty bill calling for full enforcement of our immigration laws.
And here’s a reminder of John McCain’s “leadership” from June 2007 via the Washington Times:
Often lost in the big picture coverage of major legislative issues like the now-troubled Bush-Kennedy immigration bill are the little moments that say everything about how Washington works. They’re the little moments that your legislators don’t want you to know about and figure will never make it back home through the media.
But Stephen Dinan, our excellent national political reporter who has led the way for months on coverage of immigration legislation, captured this priceless moment in his story this morning as the supporters of the bill struggled to keep it together.
The late-night vote was on an amendment that would require illegal aliens who get legal status to have a minimum level of health insurance. Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat who is the chamber’s most liberal member, was — not surprisingly — opposed.
Writes Mr. Dinan: “Republican Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and John McCain of Arizona both went to check with Mr. Kennedy before casting their votes to match his. Soon after, (Arizona Republican Sen. Jon) Kyl also switched his vote to match Mr. Kennedy’s.”
The amendment was defeated.
And let’s remember McCain pulling the threat-of-violence card in support of immigration capitulation: If we don’t give in, it’ll be like the banlieus in France!
Crooked talk: He says he’ll build the fence.
Straight talk: He resents what he calls the “goddamned fence.”
John McCain and La Raza-The Race share a deep-seated contempt for grass-roots conservatives who worked successfully to defeat the disastrous amnesty bill. And they share a common impulse to marginalize their political opponents as “haters.”
Thus, La Raza-The Race has launched a new “We Can Stop the Hate” campaign–smack dab in the middle of the campaign season–to redefine tough policy criticism from the Right as “hate.” They protest that it is “racist” and out-of-bounds to talk about reconquista–even as the McCain campaign boasts a “Mexico First/”Just A Region”/”Free Flow of People” outreach director who’s practicing it out in the open for the leading GOP presidential front-runner.
Yes, an ethnic separatist group that calls itself “The Race”–a group that has embraced John McCain and vice versa–has the gall to crusade against “hate.” Chris Kelly notes that La Raza-The Race head Janet Murguia is calling for networks to keep immigration enforcement proponents off the airwaves and that both La Raza-The Race and another open-borders group are pushing for Fairness Doctrine policies to shut up their foes.
Read it:
Ms. Murguia argued that hate speech should not be tolerated, even if such censorship were a violation of First Amendment rights: “Everyone knows there is a line sometimes that can be crossed when it comes to free speech. And when free speech transforms into hate speech, we’ve got to draw that line. And that’s what we’re doing here today. And we need to make sure that network executives will hold their people accountable and not cross that line.”
Murgia praised McCain and looks forward to the “tapering down” of immigration enforcement efforts if he wins the White House: “With his emergence as a leading Republican presidential primary contender, I do think that we’ll see this toned down… Does it mean that we know everything he’s going to do in that area of reform? And I know he’s got his work cut out for him with a number of people, and we’ll see him put this whole platform together, but we do believe that if he ends up being in a lead role here, we think that that issue will be tapered down.”
No respect for the rule of law. No respect for the First Amendment.
Like John McCain said: “I’ll rely on people to judge me by the company that I keep.”
The company John McCain keeps:
Russ Feingold.
Teddy Kennedy.
Lindsay Grahamnesty.
Juan “Mexico First/Free Flow” Hernandez.
Jerry “Spanish first” Perenchio.
Geraldo Rivera.
La Raza.
Charles Keating.
John Kerry.
The New York Times.
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Both the Weekly Standard and the NYT assail “anti-immigrant” forces.
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The late GOP Rep. Charlie Norwood of Georgia told the truth about La Raza-The Race and refused to be mau-maued. I’m reprinting his response in full:
It is with great amusement that I read the National Council of La Raza’s (NCLR) defense [from its president and CEO Janet Murguia.] against the facts contained in my article, “The Truth About ‘La Raza,’” that appeared in HUMAN EVENTS, April 10,2006. Instead of addressing the troubling facts outlined in the article, NCLR still seeks to hide from the truth through shrewd distractions.
Murguia claims: “Rep. Norwood mistranslates our name as the National Council of ‘the race.’ The actual definition of ‘La Raza’ is ‘people,’ referring to the Hispanic people or community.”
According to whom? The online encyclopedia Wikipeidia translation reads, “La raza: Spanish: ‘The race.’” Ditto with www.freetranslation.com, translation2.paralink.com, www.freedict.com/onldict/spa.html. But here’s even more online fun: Type in “National Council of the RACE” on Google, the world’s number one search engine, and it will take you straight to NCLR’s home page. Case closed.
NCLR’s second objection is where the real deception becomes glaring: “NCLR did not receive $15.2 million in federal grants last year and no federal funds of any kind were used to fund get-out-the-vote efforts or for any political purpose.”
By “last year” my article refers to the last fiscal year reported by NCLR on its official website, which is fiscal year 2004. NCLR very cleverly fails to mention this fact, even though they surely knew precisely where the $15.2 million the article mentioned was coming from.
According to page 48 of the National Council of La Raza Consolidated Statements of Activities, Year Ended September 30,2004, NCLR itself reports it received $15,170,182 in federal grants. [See Figure 1 on page 9.] In the same statement, under “Advocacy and Electoral Empowerment” NCLR reports on page 27, “while in 2002 activities centered on Get-Out-The-Vote (GOTV) efforts, in 2004 the project expanded to include voter registration, modest GOTV, and some elements of election protection,” and reports on page 48 that it spent $327,585 directly on “Legislative Advocacy” and another $2,611,827 on “Research, Advisory, and Legislation”-all while receiving that $15.2 million in federal grants.
Did NCLR’s receipt of $15.2 million in federal funds allow them to redirect other donations towards their combined $2.9 million in political activities? You be the judge.
But the real outrage in NCLR’s objections to the article is their disingenuous denial of their links to radical, racist and anti-American groups: “NCLR … unequivocally rejects, the motto Tor La Raza Todo, Fuera de la Raza Nada.’ (For The Race everything, for those outside The Race nothing.)”
No group can “unequivocally reject” a position while quietly paying out money to groups that support it, which is exactly what NCLR does.
The motto in question is that of the radical group MEChA and can be found online at the homepage of the Georgetown University MEChA Chapter. On the same site, you can read Georgetown MEChA’s Constitution, which contains the requirement that Georgetown MEChA maintain current membership in NCLR.
The Internal Revenue Service reports NCLR was actively funding the Georgetown University MEChA Chapter as recently as 2003, as documented in NCLR’s IRS Form 990, 2002 Return of Organization Exempt from Income Tax, Exhibit 1, Page 1. [See Figure 2 on page 9.]
If NCLR is sincere in objecting to the facts in the article they should have no problem publicly agreeing to all six points mentioned in my article:
1. Denounce the motto “For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada,” as repugnant, racist, and totally incompatible with American society or citizenship-and stop funding groups who support it.
2. Acknowledge the right of all Americans to live wherever they choose in the U.S. without segregation.
3. Commit to sponsorship of nationwide educational programs to combat racism and anti-Semitism in the Hispanic community.
4. Denounce and sever all ties with MEChA and other organizations which hold to the racist doctrines held by MEChA.
5. Acknowledge our borders, the democratic right of U.S. citizens to determine immigration policy, and the right of the U.S. to enforce immigration law and secure its borders against unauthorized entry.
6. Repudiate all claims that current American territory rightfully belongs to Mexico.
Based on the documented and independently verified statements in the original article, not only does HUMAN EVENTS owe no correction to NCLR, NCLR owes the entire American public an apology for deceptively supporting groups seeking to undermine our national unity and sovereignty.
But perhaps the best solution would be for NCLR, from this day forward, to simply start living by the six points above.
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Does anyone remember the Alamo?
How about the treaty of Guadalupe Hildago?
How Mexico wanted to aid Hitler during WWII with the promise from Adolf of the southwest being stolen from the United States and given to them?
Does anyone remember how Ponch Via and his bandits raided and murdered across the boarder and we sent Black Jack Persian in after him.
How about something that is happening now. The military and police incursions by Mexico into soverign U.S. territory. The kidnappings, rapes, murders, theft being done now along the boarder.
Does any of this mean anything to McCan’t?
The only thing McCain is ready to lead…is the remaining population of Mexico onto the Backs of US TaxPayers.
Until we can secure our borders all of the other efforts are futile. With McCain you can pretty much write it off since there may no longer be any real borders. While the Security and Prosperity Partnership looked bad, this is just downright frightening.
Sorry, gotta go watch the Welcoming Parade for MS13 and LaRaza.
McCain? Republican? Where?
Sic ‘em, Michelle.
Thanks for the memories of last summer and fall.
I cannot even watch McCain without a grimace (which a mirror of his constant facial emotion), anger, or nausea.
Hope the tide is turning against the McCain tsunami inspite of the press.
Rush Limbaugh said today that McCain is who the press has elected for us to support. Not me, McCainst.
Win Mitt, WIN.
If I was south of the border,and wanted to come north without papers,guess what I would call the fence also.
McCain’s views on illegal immigration are idiotic. We can all agree on that. His proposed “Z visa” was a barely concealed effort to allow all illegals to remian in the US forever. But that bill is dead as a doornail. It won’t get through a committee and McCain is cynical enough that he won’t fight for it now that he knows how costly it will be to his popularity. So let’s get back to the more important task of preventing Bill Clinton from having a 3rd term as president. Anybody ready for another round of Les Aspin as Secretary of Defense?
Michelle–
Because I only watch Fox News I can only speak to what I’ve seen over the past week with regard to their coverage of McCain. To use a single word to sum up their coverage: Powdery! They’ve practically run campaign ads on his behalf with the fawning coverage they’ve given him.
As for Romney, here’s my favorite. On Foxs’ Weekend Live w/Brian Wilson, he did a segment on the leader of the Mormon church’s funeral. Romney was in attendance so Wilson posed this question to his guest or field reporter(paraphrase) “With Romney in attendance, does this again make his religion a factor in this campaign?”
WHAT!
Here’s what they should have said if they were being honest. “FOLKS! When you go to vote, don’t forget, Romney is a Mormon.”
There goes my blood pressure again. So much for staying calm.
McCain as President would be a disaster. I don’t believe a word he says, but I believe in what I have seen McCain do. He is lying through his teeth when he says he has changed. If he had, Juan wouldn’t be on his campaign. McCain obviously thinks voters are stupid.
I am praying for a big upset of McCain’s road to the nomination tomorrow. Go Romney.
Under McShame, Obambi or Shillary the borders will not only remain open, but the U.S. will become a state within the North American Union. By 2012 the Amero will be our currency. Billary gave us the GATT and NAFTA treaties using Fast Track approval. Bush signed the Security & Prosperity Partnership.
http://www.trilateral.org/
I sure hope someone else gets in the running. I barf every time I think about having the Clintons or John McCain in the White House. I would either stay home or vote for McCain because having Clintons for another four years is not an option for me. . .and I do not like McCain’s stance on immigration or the company he keeps. . .how about Michelle or Lou Dobbs?
LOL Michelle. Reminds me of yesterday. Game is getting ready to come on and my phone rings. Family and friends of mine know to call my cell phone unless that just want to leave a message. Voice mail comes on and it’s McSlain. He was talking on how he’s going to be tuff on the border and on the illegals. I look at my friends and say, “what an idiot. I already voted for Mitt”. Game starts and the phone rings. I get a little by angry as it’s Mcloser again. Same ad. two minutes later and the phone rings again. Same McCain ad. 2nd quarter, phone rings (by this time my home phone has had more calls from McCain tht I get on that line in a week. I unplug the phone and return to game.
I’m listening to the radio and all his ads focus on how strong he will be on the illegal invaders (I mean aliens).
He lies almost as good as Clinton. He’ll look you right in the eye and tell you a lie. He even knows we know he’s telling a lie and he does it anyway.
Give them a fit, for for Mitt.
Dang! I’ve got to quit reading these threads on McCain. They just make me madder each time I read another one.
If you lie on your resume you can be fired. If you lie to a federal official you can go to jail. Now how can we combine these concepts and get lying candidates jailed for fraud when they lie to us the voter.
I am seeing the birth of a third party. The Republican establishment has joined up with the Democrats to spit in the faces of American Citizens. We are about to join together to protect what is left of our country.
I am hoping it starts with Super Tuesday, but if not the drum beat lead by Michele will get louder and louder
Texas is getting a lot of the Mexicans from AZ and OK. Apparently, they think that
because Texas was once supposed to have been called Aztlan ( why didn’t I study that
in TX history) that they have a very real right to be here and some of our largest cities
are welcoming them in with open arms. However, I keep reading that they are griping,
that, while they can work, they are not getting the hours or the pay rates that they are
used to. Talk about brass! I would like to know why, according to libs, we, who want
our borders secured (and not just against illegals who “want to work”) are ignorant,
know nothings who are just trying to make it harder for them, the libs, to travel to
Canada or Mexico. I also read that we (border conscious know nothings) are going to
turn US drivers licenses into ID cards and that we won’t be able to do anything without having to show these same ID cards. It will be all our fault!
Not so far fetched. With McCain it is his role with Keating as one of the Keating 5. Hillary has a string of dirty deeds which include a “suicide”.
I am wondering how many American’s really are thinking about the illegals and how they effect every aspect of our land? Every state, but maybe Alaska cause it is too cold, is effected by them. County, state, and federal taxes are going to help them. Their babies are entilted to all we as legal Americans get. Their money goes to Mexico. They steal our SS numbers. They refuse to speak English. We cave in to them for voting booth, English and Mexican. How many are actually illegal voting? Drunk drivers, sex attacks, pedophiles, gangs, etc. etc.
To me, it is the ONE prime issue I will be voting on someone strong on illegals and doing something about this.
I wouldn’t believe McCain if he told the sun was coming up in the morning.
L
Carp,
Yes I remember those things but then again I like to read about actual USA history not the public ed lite version.
That was Black Jack Pershing, not “Persian”. The house he lived in at Fort Bliss is reserved for the base’s Commanding General. When my dad was stationed there, it was painted white with dark green trim.
Please, God, don’t let McCain be the nominee. If he is, I don’t know that I can vote for him.
And, yes, I can see the birth of a new party coming out of all of this. I have checked up on the Constitution Party, and I like what they say, except for their isolationist “no foreign entanglements” plank on their platform. That just isn’t realistic in the global world we live in today.
I’m with you on that Barry. I don’t know how much of McCain my blood pressure can take. If he gets elected I will have to cope by turning inward and going to my happy place in my head. It will be a long 4 or 8 years.
The republicans so far are a big disappointment. How can they have that short of a memory?
OK John, but you left out a couple of things, like pay back taxes on all of the money they earned under the table, compensate those people whose social security numbers they stole and whose credit they ruined, pay school districts and hospitals for the services they have received while here illegally, and last but not least, sign a sworn affidavit that states that if they violate the federal, state, or local law for any reason, by commission of any felony, they give up their legal status and will return to their country of origin.
Hey, if they’re going to be guests, then they should be good guests. And the word guest implies that they will eventually go home, doesn’t it?
I agree with all the comments made above. The thought of McPain as the Republican nominee just makes my stomach turn. Looks like we are going to get amnesty either way, so I’d much rather it be from an administration with a D after it than an R. Additionally, I think the Republicans in Congress would find it much easier to resist amnesty if Hill or Obama proposed it vs McPain.
I will NEVER EVER vote for McPain. Not now, not tomorrow, or not ever. Period!!!!!
That was my experience with the CP too. Why can’t I find a conservative party that is conservative without being isolationist? Kind of like the GOP used to be?
I have a really good Republican friend who has been politically active for decades and worked on alot of campaigns. She is very upset about the thought of people staying home and not voting because they don’t like McCain.
She pointed out the dangers of having a real Democrat liberal in the White House, such as our country would lose its stability really fast; think how quickly our country would go to hell in a hand basket with Hillary or Obama in charge; we need to remember the years of JFK and Johnson and we are still paying for the moral decay of the 60’s and the social programs they enacted; and finally, Al Quaeda will attack with a Dem in office. Very valid points.
My problem is that I wonder just how different would it be with McCain in office? I think Obama would be worse, but how different is McCain from Hillary? Looking at McCain’s record, it’s just as scary.
Is McCain the lesser of two evils or is he the same evil as the Democratic candidate? That’s what Republicans are going to have to decide if McCain gets the nomination.
We need a new Conservative Party. Like the Constitution Party without the isolationism. Duncan Hunter (why in God’s name did he endorse Huckabee??), Fred Thompson, Tom Tancredo, and I’m sure, given enough time and research, we could find enough real Republicans to fill the ranks. To heck with all the RINOs.
I might suggest that McCain ‘adopt’ and house, in his home, about ten illegal families, kids, aunts, uncles, g-pa, etc. and let HIM pay for their keep, not us taxpayers. How about all D and R who think they are equal to us American’s ‘adopt’ same amount? How about all the lobbyists for illegals doing the same? They all seem to think illegals are so special, put Your money where YOUR mouth is. This would sure help taxpayers out big time.
L.
My dad said he’d hold his nose and vote for McCain if it came down to that, but I don’t know that I can. Ann Coulter is like right on this point: Republicans in Congress would fight against a President HR Clinton or President Obama, but not so a President McCain. Rush said something similar today: McCain would be the defacto head of the Republican Party, and it would be political suicide for Republicans in Congress to go against their President. But, if they all became members of a new Conservative Party, maybe that wouldn’t be an issue??
letget~
They like to practice NIMBY. It’s okay so long as they are not the ones personally impacted by the illegals…
I don’t know if I can either, Miss Ladybug. I have always voted and think we are cutting off our nose to spite our face if we don’t…but where is the line where we can’t support someone who so totally goes against what we believe in? I will certainly support other Republicans running in our State.
If the Republican Party doesn’t get its act together, I see a third party coming along the road in the future.
Yes to all of your above questions and for this one. NO
He also talked about how Republicans had been asked to tow the party line one to many times and that it is time to stop.
Why should any of us hold our noses and vote a party line that is taking a left turn. I will not vote against my Conservitive values, I will not under any circumstance vote for McCain. They can say what they want. If the only reason people are voting for McCain is because he can supposadly beat the Democrats then they are sadly mistaken and have no real values that they will adhere to I call them “which ever way the wind blows Republicans”. If people will so easily give up their Conservitive values how quickly will they lay down for Socialist values? McCain is not a Conservitive he is a Liberal hiding under the Conservitive tent. McCains tent needs to be taken down and exposed as MM and other’s are doing.(By the way MM thanks) This is not funny anymore those people that want to vote for McCain do so, but remember I and many others do not want to hear you complain when he takes Conservitive values and stomps them like a bug, the sad fact is they will be the first ones to complain, and to them I will laugh my a$$ off and say so you were one of the fools that bought into the “Tow the party line crap” your talking to the wrong guy because I did not. Open your eyes if you are a true Conservitive and don’t buy into the party line.
The people of USSR bought into the party line.
The people of China bought into the party line.
The people of Germany bought into the party line.
The people of Italy bought into the party line.
The people of Iran bought into the party line.
So tell me will you buy into the party line?
What if…? La Raza del Los Blancos Americanos was formed, whose only purpose was to “reclaim,” by right, all the Mexican Resort towns, whose existence has been funded solely by “Ranchero Americanos.”
In addition, since so much of the Mexican Economy is funded by U.S. dollars transferred in to Mexico by illegal Mexican immigrants working in the United States, La Raza del Los Blancos Americanos maintains that these areas are bought and paid for by American investors, and businesses.
In conclusion, it is apparent that because of the vast amount of Mexican citizens fleeing their former home country for “a better life” in the United States, and the Mexican government’s utter failure to stop it, all claims to said lands are hereby forfeited.
Isn’t this, sort of the argument made by La Raza and it’s supporters?
#21:
“Hey, if they’re going to be guests, then they should be good guests. And the word guest implies that they will eventually go home, doesn’t it?”
Except for John Belushi in the SNL “The Thing That Wouldn’t Leave.”
Sorry, couldn’t resist….
Agree with your post.
I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back porch and filled it with seed.. Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.
But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.
Then came the poop. It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the chairs, the table…everywhere.
Then some of the birds turned mean. They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket. And others birds were boisterous and loud: They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food. After a while, I couldn’t even sit on my own back porch anymore.
I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone. I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio. Soon, the back yard was like it used to be…quite, serene and no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
Now lets see…our government gives out free food, subsidized housing, free medical care, free education and allows anyone born here to be a automatic citizen.
Then the illegals came by the tens of thousands. Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for free services. Small apartments are housing 5 families. You have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room doctor. Your child’s 2nd grade class is behind other schools because over half the class doesn’t speak English. Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box. I have to press “one” to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags other than “Old Glory” are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties.
Maybe it’s time for the government to take down the bird feeder.
Paul R. Gellentien
If elected as President, McCain wouldn’t want to be called a liar, so look for anwers like this to his promises…
I’ll hire new border patrol guards - “Here’s two; quit your whining.”
Build a fence - “So what it’s only a mile long and two feet tall, it’s a damn fence”
Ask governors to certify that their borders are secure. “Well, I asked them, but they never got back to me.”
The two million people who have committed crimes will be deported immediately - “Hey Ted (Kennedy) can you drive some folks to Mexico for me?”
I think you get where I’m going with this.
malkin_fan~
I love that bird feeder analogy…
#21~
And another comment about guest: they are usually invited…
malkin_fan
Excellent analogy. That is exactly what is and has happened I wholy agree.
#24 On February 4th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, katieanne said:
“I have a really good Republican friend who has been politically active for decades and worked on alot of campaigns. She is very upset about the thought of people staying home and not voting because they don’t like McCain.
She pointed out the dangers of having a real Democrat liberal in the White House, such as our country would lose its stability really fast; think how quickly our country would go to hell in a hand basket with Hillary or Obama in charge; we need to remember the years of JFK and Johnson and we are still paying for the moral decay of the 60’s and the social programs they enacted; and finally, Al Quaeda will attack with a Dem in office. Very valid points.
My problem is that I wonder just how different would it be with McCain in office? I think Obama would be worse, but how different is McCain from Hillary? Looking at McCain’s record, it’s just as scary.
Is McCain the lesser of two evils or is he the same evil as the Democratic candidate? That’s what Republicans are going to have to decide if McCain gets the nomination.”
Good post.
I know it’s sort of like cheating, but allow me to paste a comment I posted on a neighboring thread:
Would McCain:
A) Be not quite as bad as a socialist?
B) Be just as bad as/no different from a socialist?
C) Be worse than a socialist?
What should we believe?
This is THE question we have to wrestle with.
IF McCain is the Republican nominee, do we:
A) Vote for him?
B) Vote for a socialist?
C) Write in someone - say, Romney?
How can we be convinced that McCain would be tougher against the Muslim crazies than would the socialists?
How can we be convinced that McCain would be better at securing the border than would the socialists?
How can we be convinced that he would not raise taxes and spend wastefully, as badly as the socialists would?
How can we be convinced that he would be a safer bet, as far as judicial nominations are concerened, than the socialists would?
How can we be convinced that he would not push for the resurrection of the “Fairness” Doctrine just as strongly as would the socialists?
How can we be convinced that a President McCain would not change party affiliation to socialist?
I can’t think of any other issues right now…but THE question, on any issue, seems to be, how can we be convinced that McCain would be a better bet than a socialist?
And, that’s what it appears to come down to - a bet.
Put another way, how and why can and should we trust McCain?
“Is McCain the lesser of two evils or is he the same evil as the Democratic candidate? That’s what Republicans are going to have to decide if McCain gets the nomination.’
You’re right, #24…also correct about the disastrous 60s.
The only good thing from then was the music.
The civil rights movement was chugging along from the mid-50s.
It should also be pointed out that, from what I’ve read, the 60s civil rights legislation was passed with GOP support against many Dems.
I can’t wait to hear is crap at CPAC this week.
http://www.cpnys.org/ Check it out, all we need to do is make it national.
#25 On February 4th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, Miss Ladybug said:
“We need a new Conservative Party. ”
Agreed that that might just be what is needed.
I’ve said more than a few times that perhaps a new, conservative/traditionalist party should be created, and that the RINO, socialist-lite Repubs should be allowed to fade away to irrelevance, as the Liberals did in Britain in the early 20th century.
Many have said that the MSM ‘loves’ McCain. Just wait. If, he does win the Republican nod, all the stuff about him, held now Sub Rosa, will come out, and the MSM will inviscerate him! Being the media darling only goes so far.
He should have named that bus “The bull sh*t Express”
heh sounds like “true” freedom is anarchy. But they are right a wall won’t stop people. Armed Guards atop a wall will. Just move the wall inland from the boarder by 3 miles, post something about it being a military zone. Anyone crossing a none valid entry point can be classified as a sabatures. I just consider this mainly give how some aspects of La Raza love to shout how this is an invasion and this is their land now.
Some of the Illegals I have no problem with. Make coming here less to do with money and some of them love this country. Least more than some of our dear citizens. But when you come here for money only to send it home, demand of us, when you are a guest and yell that this is your land. Well then your a sabature in my book and an enemy of the state.
On February 4th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, katieanne said:
I have a really good Republican friend who has been politically active for decades and worked on alot of campaigns. She is very upset about the thought of people staying home and not voting because they don’t like McCain.
She pointed out the dangers of having a real Democrat liberal in the White House, such as our country would lose its stability really fast; think how quickly our country would go to hell in a hand basket with Hillary or Obama in charge; we need to remember the years of JFK and Johnson and we are still paying for the moral decay of the 60’s and the social programs they enacted; and finally, Al Quaeda will attack with a Dem in office. Very valid points.
My problem is that I wonder just how different would it be with McCain in office? I think Obama would be worse, but how different is McCain from Hillary? Looking at McCain’s record, it’s just as scary.
Is McCain the lesser of two evils or is he the same evil as the Democratic candidate? That’s what Republicans are going to have to decide if McCain gets the nomination.
I have news for you. If either Hillary or McCennedy get in the White house amnesty is a given.
Over 25 million illegals AND their families will be given the right to vote and this once great nation will be on the fast track to 3rd world status. Either way the outcome is the same but at least in the end the history books will show that Hillary and the left wing loons were responsible.
I will have taken my wife and moved out of this country BEFORE I have to press 2 for English.
Yes!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_of_New_York_State A lot more info here. And no I do not allways agree with them.
He (or is it Juan Hernandez?) contradicts himself in this single paragraph.
If they are allowed to stay, that is all the “reward” they want.
I will vote for McCain when he realizes that the “back of the line” is in the home country, not here. Being allowed to stay (as a felon) rather than going back and doing it legally like the type of immigrant we want, is a “special privilege.
As for learning English, will McCain insist that all my owner’s manuals, public notifications, signs and announcements in my local Sears are in English only, and not “bilingual?” (Why is it that only the Spanish speakers need this coddling?)
Until I get GUARANTEES, not assurances, from McCain, I cannot support him, at least at this stage.
#44 On February 4th, 2008 at 3:41 pm, malkin_fan said:
“…and this once great nation will be on the fast track to 3rd world status.”
I think you’ve got that right.
Watch the scene in the movie Commando where the bad guy’s henchmen drive up to, and park at, the “Valverde” airport to pick up Schwarzenegger, for an idea of what might lie ahead for us with an immigration flood from the thrid world.
“I will have taken my wife and moved out of this country BEFORE I have to press 2 for English.”
Ummm…,and go where?
Or, the Excrement Express.
I guess, though, that McCain has one advantage over the Dems: he will guard the “front door” of the country.
It is the back door we will have to worry about.
John McCain will get no help from Hispanics.
E.D. Hill was interviewing some Hispanic talk show host - and he said that Hillary led 3 to 1 over Obama, and that McCain, Huckabee, and Romney didn’t even register.
And for this, McCain sold out the Republican Party.
I keep hearing from these politicians that these illegals are coming here to
“better themselves.” Why then, do they pull down any place or area where
they live or congregate? It is not because they are “in the shadows” because,
here in TX they are blatantly out in the open and ruining neighborhoods and
parks, etc. You should see what they have done to a beautiful (if you can call a shopping mall such) mall in Ft Worth. You can always tell where they are.
Is this what we really want for the US? They don’t try to improve Mexico.
They won’t be an improvement here.
I have gone from Dismissing McCain, to Disliking him…to now, Outright Hatred for him.
McCain = Liar
Schmuckabee = Fraud
Romney = America’s only Hope
Funny, McCain has had over 20 years in Congress to do something about illegal immigration, and has done nothing to stop it. He has done everything to encourage it though.
So we are now supposed to reward him for his negelct and his open support of illegal aliens. Are we to ignore the human suffering for those who were victims of crimes against them committed by illegal aliens? Are we to reward him for the massive burden illegal aliens have put on our social infrastructure, resulting in closed hospitals, overburdened prisons and court systems and a decline in services to US citizens? Are we to reward him for the presence and rise in diseases that were once eliminated in this country, like leprosey and TB?
According to numbers released by Congressman Steve King of Iowa, illegal aliens are responsible for the murders of 12 US citizens every day; illegal aliens are responsible for the drunk driving deaths of 13 US citizens each day. http://www.house.gov/apps/list/hearing/ia05_king/col_20060505_bite.html
If you do the math, over 8000 people a year lose their lives every year in the US at the hands of illegal aliens - that is more people per year than the total losses for the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
There are an estimated 240,000 illegal alien sex offenders in the US averaging 4 offenses per offender, with another 100 or so illegally crossing the border each day. http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html#Illegals
And where has John McCain been all this time? He has condoned the suffering of the American people by doing nothing to stop illegal aliens from passing freely into our country as a member of Congress. For over 20 years he has done nothing, but if elected President he’ll work on it?
With the company McCain keeps, there is no reason to believe a word he says on the topic of illegal “immigration”.
Attrition by enforcement is working!
Quick! Get your state legislature to join AZ, OK, TN, and GA - before it’s too late! (More on the way).
Too bad McCain refuses to see that law enforcement is the proper policy. Hey, McCain - have a listen here if you want to hear from illegal aliens themselves why they are leaving.
Way off topic - BUT…I was just thinking. You know how Rush likes to refer to Ronald Reagan as Ronaldus Magnus or the like - can you imagine if we were to add the -us endings to the current crop of nominees?
Mittus Romnus - ok - sounds ok
Johnus McAinus - uh - hmmm….
Do you mean, for example, the convenient neighborhood brothels in this
San Diego neighborhood? Lovely.
If only we had such a village next to the Kennedy compound in Hyannisport, the Bush compound in Kennebunkport, and the McCain mansion in AZ. The Three Amigos might sing a different tune if they had to live with it.
Hey Malkin-fan, don’t forget about the avian flu.
Sorry - that was stupid - just a post-work-meeting brain lapse
reptevye - fwiw - it cracked me up.
The John McCain photo of the day.
#61:
Priceless!
Thank you.
Please correct numbers….
NOT 12-18 million. That is closer to the estimate of identity thefts caused by illegal aliens (currently @ 20 million).
Est. Number of Illegal Immigrants in the United States is: 38 Million (Based on Study by Californians for Population Stabilization)
Simple math: 4 million a year (the low side estimate for 2005) x 3 years = 12 million
That means that prior to 2005, the number of illegal immigrants in the United States was zero. It would take a Herculian leap to be able to support such a preposterous assumption. And these numbers do not adjust for the increased traffic as our politicians have offered amnesty at every turn.
More than likely, illegal immigrants make up 1/6 of the current estimated US population.
#61—LOVE the photo!
We have 12 million illeagals in Texas alone. My guess is there is closer to 35 to 40 million here already, with another 10 waiting at the boarder. There are illeagals here that buy 5 to 10 acre plots, drop 3 trailers on it waiting for the big day.
Hilarious!
Sorry about my spelling.
I could not agree with you more. To think I was once leaning toward Huckabee scares me. His attacks on Mitt drove me to strongly dislike him. Add to it the Huck puckers up andd kisses McCant’s arse, and that pushes me to border line hate.
Sooner or later, we will probably have another terrorist attack; hopefully, not as bad as the last one on 9/11. What I see happening in the aftermath, is the government finding out that the terrorists crossed the border from Mexico (the easiest way). Soon, all these open border politicians will be screaming and pointing fingers at each other, blaming everyone but themselves for the border and illegal immigration problem (McCain, Clinton, Obama and Kennedy included). Then, and only then, will the border be closed and illegal immigration stopped. Only when there was a disaster, has the government ever properly acted…like the nonsense we go through at airports. Terrorists aren’t coming to this country via airplanes. Why should they? Just cross the border and bring the bombs with them.
More On McCain here.
Sad, but probably true. The 1993 WTC attack was laughed off because the idiots went back to the rental truck office to claim their deposit. We should have gone into 9/12 mode at the time but didn’t.
McCain showed his true colors (as opposed to his campaign rhetoric) when he pushed so hard for
amnestyrewards for up to 30 million foreign invaders at the expense of border security. He and Kennedy held hostage our national security and would not allow border security to become law unless his rewards were included. And he did this THREE TIMES in 2006-2007.He proved over and over that he would rather continue the foreign invasion rather than provide security for American citizens.
And the icing on the cake was when he and Kennedy changed the 2006 bill’s 90 day waiting period for a Z visa to only a single business day in 2007. And allowed his colleagues only a 36-hour review period of the 1000+ page bill to find this perfidy.
McCain supporters, individual and MSM, are blind to this treachery.
I just heard another campaign commercial of McLiar. One would think from his ad that he’s far more anti illegal as I am. He all but said he would publicly hang them. What a liar. I hope my vote helps Mitt take California tomorrow. It’s time we get to poke McCain in the eye for a change.
All I know is Michelle is steaming mad. She’s brown like illegal immigrants from Mexico, but not down with illegal immigrants from Mexico. Some would call her racist for that attitude, but those who make that charge are the dyed in the wool racists. MLK said let’s judge people by the content of their character. Is it a stretch to ask we be judged by our legal status? Every one, equally?
MM, Awesome Job! Too bad Romney failed to make this one of his main points. Too bad the LameStream Media failed to put this together too.
How anyone could vote for this sell out is beyond me. This single issue should be enough to disqualify him for the Nomination AND Lose his Senatorship.
He Doesn’t even hide that he is barely pandering with “We must secure our borders first,” He is telling anyone with a brain that he will ram amnesty through immediately after.
I fear for our future.
On the window of my SUV I made ajustments to my “Anybody But Hillary” sticker.
Another thing that drives me nuts is conservatives who criticize McCain because he hasn’t reached out to conservatives. Of course he hasn’t, but what difference will it really make if he does? How an someone who calls themselves a conservative possibly be swayed by a few campaign sops that McCain might toss out, and ignore his decades-long record?
If someone can be swayed by this type of
by McCain, all it means is that they are easily deceived, kind of like the so-called conservatives that were taken in by Clinton in 1992 because he mouthed a few conservative cliches.
Brit just did an interview with some Arizona Republican who was comparing McCain to Goldwater. Same fiercely independant streak Arizonians respect.
Total garbage. The President a President McCain reminds of is Nixon. Same personality traits, probably same result. Impeachment.
Just read that Jimmeh Cartah was part of a two man “we’re looking into votes
being cast by persons impersonating real voters. Brotheh Jimmeh said that
there is absolutely no evidence of this ever happening in Indiana and therefore
showing ID at the polls is completely unnecessary. Yes folks, the very same
Mr Jimmy Carter that was so firm with North Korea and did not realize that he
was being lied to, brings us another effort from his same self. And..I believe
what he found this time just as I believed him when he announced that North
Korea did not want to develop nuclear weapons.
McCain says,
He then says,
Excuse me, Senator, but if 12 million are here illegally, it seems to me that 12 million of them — not 2 million — have committed crimes.
If nominated, Sen. McCain cannot win. And if Obama or Clinton win, I fear the country will fragment in seismic proportions. It will be McCains fault.
Arriba Mitt!! Sí se puede!!
For all the McCain supporters tomorrow.
Any Texas posters out there?
I read on a forum on NJ.com today that Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas has the second busiest maternity ward in the US, 16,000 births per year…. The mind boggler is that 70% of the births are to “Illegals”. Can anyone speak to the veracity of this story?
Here’s an analogy regarding the immigration issue I found helpful…
Let’s say I break into your house. Let’s say that when you discover
me in your house, you insist that I leave.
But I say, “No! I like it here.
It’s better than my house. I’ve made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors. I’ve done all the things you don’t like to do. I’m hard-working and honest
(except for when I broke into your house).”
According to La Raza, McCain and others:
You are Required to let me stay in your house. You are to feed me. You are Required to add me to your family’s insurance plan. You are Required to Educate my kids. You are Required to Provide other benefits to me & to my family (my husband will do all of your yard work because he is also hard-working and honest, except for that (breaking in part).
If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my RIGHT to be there.
It’s only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I’m just trying to better myself. I’m a hard-working and honest, person, except for well, you know, I did break into your house. And what a deal it is for me!!!
I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it
without being accused of cold, uncaring, selfish, prejudiced, and
bigoted behavior.
Oh yeah, I DEMAND that you learn
MY LANGUAGE!!! so you can
communicate with me.
What a country!
I especially like the Minutemen “decrying illegal
immigration” on youtube.
I also heard about Parkland. When I saw the report on
tv, the babies that were shown were….want to take a
guess? Yep. Mexican.
There are some really good things on youtube against
illegal immigration and most seem to be in Los
Angeles, blacks vs illegals.
I am so tired of these ignorant so and so’s that don’t
know their ancestors came from Spain and Spain, las time I looked is still in Europe. Not every
Mexican is Mayan.
That’s nothing less than a brilliant analogy and beautifully expressed.
Remember, Romney is beginning to surge. Thanks to Michelle and conservatives across the country, we have a chance of turning this thing around.
Keep getting the word out to everyone you know! E-mail, internet, talk radio, the works. The more people learn about McCain, the less they like him. We don’t need to push Romney quite so much as we need to expose McCain. Yes, people want an alternative, but if just a few more McCain people switch their votes or stay home - by just a small percentage, - then Romney takes it. And McCain does not
Press hard, everyone. This is it.
In regard to “And let’s remember McCain pulling the threat-of-violence card in support of immigration capitulation: If we don’t give in, it’ll be like the banlieus in France!”, there already is plenty of violence in the form of crime… my concern is that the backlash to it could get truley ugly.
It will be like Germany. The Arab that was stabbed when he tried to rob a store has
Arabs marching and demanding that the store clerk be put on trial even after he was
exonerated. It was, apparently, a clear case of self defense but that is not good
enough for these people. They are threatening violence if there is not a trial. Of
course there is a lot of pandering to them in the form of, all of this is happening
because of their perceived disconnect from German society. They feel like second
place citizens. Of course they do. Just like our illegals. They (in Germany) may be
legal, but they refuse to assimilate or learn the language and then bellyache because
they get only menial jobs. Go figure. McCain just wants even more peons in our
country. They won’t vote for him if they become citizens through some amnesty plan.
That’s just Hernandez yanking his chain.
OMG, speaking of La Raza. Michelle I hope you just saw the episode on CNN-Lou Dobbs with Lou and Janet Murguia, the Leader of La Raza. It was a very fiery debate/discussion. I hesitate to call it a “debate” because she did all the talking.
Wow. I could not believe what she was saying, that everytime Dobbs has the minutemen people etc. on he promotes hate speech. It was really a wild discussion. I’ll have to watch Dobbs tomorrow because I think he said he was going to “respond” to the discussion then.
Murguia has appts with top Cable TV brass (in the future) to discuss their (the networks) promotion of “hate speech” CNN, FOX and La Raza is going after Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck at CNN. No names at FOX mentioned but I would really like to see Murguila and O’Reilly go at it.
That’s a crappy but very effective way to fight. You start screaming hate
speech, racism, bigotry, etc. and you can shut a lot of people up. Let’s hope
it doesn’t work this time.
Don’t forget La Raza racist charter schools.
Getting away with more taxpayer funded racism than any other ethnicity ever has.