Super Tuesday: It begins
Scroll down for updates…interactive results map here…West Virginia GOP convention on second vote (Huck voters to throw to McCain?) 2:02pm McCain concedes defeat in WVa…WVa goes to Huck…
Scott at Election Projection has his big Super Duper Mega Jumbo Tuesday predictions up. Reality bites:
Here’s how I see the Republican races unfolding today. John McCain will be the big winner. He is still riding the momentum from his victories in South Carolina and Florida – plus he enjoys a structural advantage. Unlike the Democrats, who award all delegates (except super delegates) proportionally according to the vote, state GOP conventions have several methods for allocating their delegates. Many states have a winner-take-all format. Others use a proportional model. Still others choose a modified winner-take-all system which takes congressional district results into account.
It just so happens that in many states where McCain is ahead, the method is winner-take-all. As a result, he stands to gain large delegate blocks in such states as New York, Arizona, Missouri, and New Jersey. One the other hand, with the exception of Utah, states Mitt Romney might be expected to win break down the allocation of delegates to more than one candidate. For example, Romney’s home state of Massachusetts employs a proportional model.
The bottom line is that McCain’s delegates will come easier than Romney’s, increasing the effect of his strong polling numbers nationwide. I’m predicting McCain will win 60% to 65% of the delegates at stake today. Mitt Romney will come in with 25% to 30% or so, and Mike Huckabee, around 10%. Ron Paul’s best chance of picking up delegates will come in Alaska. Other than that, he may snatch a delegate here and there, but his haul won’t amount to much.
On the Dem side, it looks like there still won’t be a clear winner at the end of the day.
If you’re voting today, let us know how you voted and what the mood is at the polls.
YouTube has a Super Tuesday page here. If you’ve got a camera, make sure to upload your video and provide some conservative flavor.
States/territories voting:
Alabama
Alaska
American Samoa
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Georgia
Idaho
Illinois
Kansas
Massachusetts
Minnesota
Missouri
Montana
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Dakota
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Utah
West Virginia
From the USAToday cheat sheet:
7 p.m. ET: Polls close in Georgia, where Democrats award 87 delegates and Republicans award 72.
• 8 p.m. ET: Polls close in Illinois (153 Democratic delegates, 57 Republican); Massachusetts (93 Democratic, 40 Republican); Missouri (72 Democratic and 58 Republican); and New Jersey (107 Democratic, 52 Republican).
• 9 p.m. ET: Polls close in Arizona (56 Democratic and 50 Republican); and New York (232 Democratic, 101 Republican).
• 10 p.m. ET: Polls close in Utah (23 Democratic; 36 Republican).
• 11 p.m. ET: Polls close in California (370 Democratic; 170 Republican).
More helpful info here.
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Reader David L. sends this graphic on the front page of the Wisconsin State Journal, which has apparently decided that the GOP race is already over:
PJM has a big round-up here.
David Harsanyi at the Denver Post weighs in on McCain vs. conservatives:
This week McCain will be stopping in at the Conservative Political Action Conference to cultivate the hard hearts of the rank and file.
He will, self-effacingly, forward the fable that he was a mere “foot soldier” in the Reagan Revolution. Serving in the house beginning in 1983, McCain was, at best, a soldier in mop-up operations.
Who knows? The mood of the country might be swinging towards John McCain pragmatism. Conservatives might be an ideological minority in the Republican Party, once again. But things change.
After all, one day Karl Rove is planning a permanent Republican majority, the next day he’s a Fox News analyst, pondering whether Democrats will have a veto-proof majority in the Senate in 2009.
And perhaps conservatives are dead wrong. Maybe McCain will become a great Republican president. Still, there’s nothing shameful about holding your ground on principle.
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Update 10:10am Eastern. There’s bad weather in the Upper Midwest.
And as usual, a small spate of voting problems have already been reported. Glitches in NJ kept Dem. Gov Jon Corzine from casting his ballot.
A left-wing group is complaning about an extra bubble voters in Los Angeles County have to fill in to complete their ballots.
Update 11:21am Eastern. All the latest on the Dole/McCain vs. Rush scuffle here.
Update 12:27pm Eastern. Newsflash: Hillary coughed. I’m sure the WaPo reporter who covered Maureen Dowd’s stomach bug will be on the case ASAP!
Update 12:34pm Eastern. FNC reporting that West Virginia’s convention cast votes. No candidate received more than 50 percent, so they are re-voting. More at the Charleston Gazette, which reports that the Huck folks may be working to deny Romney a win: “There is speculation on the convention floor that rather than stay with McCain on the second ballot, his supporters may switch to Huckabee in order to give him a victory over Romney.”
Update 2:02pm Eastern. McCain concedes defeat in WVa- via Charleston Gazette…
Former Louisiana Gov. Buddy Roemer conceded defeat for Sen. John McCain at West Virginia’s Republican state convention on Tuesday.
Roemer, who represented McCain at the Charleston event, asked McCain boosters to support Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee on the second ballot in order to block former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
Update 2:27pm Eastern. McCain voters’ assist gives Huck the win in WVa.
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I’m in SW Missouri. My husband just came back from voting and there was hardly anyone there. I was stunned. I was expecting long lines and a huge turnout; that’s what is predicted here. I am going to vote at 1 and will see how it looks then. All the people we know are voting for Romney.
We have been getting calls out the wing wang here from Dems and Republicans. Averaging 6-8 calls a day for the past week. This morning, we were actually getting phone bank calls from people for Hillary. Hillary has also been sending out lots of mail this week.
Is that why they are voting for him? And Romney’s record is far better than McCains. Not that this is hard to do.
Caucuses here in Kansas, but today, only the dems. Repubs are Saturday. Weather forecast tonight is freezing rain..expect low turnout because the dem caucus doesn’t even start until 6:00 p.m. which is right in the midst of the bad weather.
Not that Kansas matter much. I hate caucuses. Can’t vote absentee. Must be there and listen to the bullsh.. before you can cast a ballot often an hour or more later..
One thing that stops me from doing what you plan, John, is that we have alot of other races in November where we need to get Republicans in Congress. I’ll vote in November, but when it comes to the President, if McCain gets the nomination, I seriously doubt I will vote for him. I don’t think I can hold my nose on this guy. It will probably be left blank for President or I’ll write in a name.
Remember folks,
Hillary admitted on ABC on Sunday morning that if necessary she will “GARNISH YOUR WAGES” to pay for your universal health care when she becomes President …
#102,
I’m not discounting the average joe idiot voter who make their decision based on viewing 10-20 minutes of MSM as a substitute for research.
It also helps that the dems have the luxury of being able to sabotage the GOP race without having to worry about having a non-liberal (both Obama & Hillary will do nicely for them).
That’s the choice the GOP opts for if it nominates McCain. Actions have consequences.
Just as a reminder for those that are going to sit this one out in the event of a McCain nomination – there will be Congressional elections as well. Congress can be the brake on liberalism; indeed, from our killing of HillaryCare (and that with the Dems running Congress) to the 104th Congress to our killing of Shamnesty, it was Congress that killed it.
Now, are you willing to cede total control to the ‘Rats (whether it be led by Obama, Clinton or McCain)? If so, lots of luck ever getting any semblance of power back; they won’t make the mistake they did in the 1850s.
And, as far as my vote in the national election, if it’s McCain vs Hillary, I’ll vote for Hillary. If it’s McCain vs Obama, I’ll just stay home.
I won’t compromise my principles for the good of the party. What exactly has the party done for us in the past few years? The only thing I’ll give them is good Supreme Court justices. That’s about it. I’m totally fed up.
#102,
P.S. How is Romney “far” better than McCain? I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if McCain picked Romney as a VEEP because they see eye-to-eye so much.
Well, James, you can’t hope too much for an upset – it’s votes like this that will give us McCain as the nom..My guy is no longer in the running either, but I feel I am doing a disservice to my country by not choosing from the best of the available. I am one of the poor fools that does believe every vote can matter.
I had even given thought to the Ann Coulter/Rush Limbaugh idea that blame it on the Dems would be preferable to McCain and what that administration would bring but OMG! The next president will most likely appoint 2 Supreme Court judges who will shape the course of this country for a lot longer with more impact than any one president, Senator or Congressperson. I do not want Clinton or Obama to be the person making that decision. For all his non-conservative leanings, Shamnesty, campaign reform I view as infringement of my constitutional rights,etc. I will hold my nose and pull that lever for the best interest of future generations.
Mr.Vibeman, from your mouth to God’s ears!
We don’t vote today, but I will be extrememly excited to get home and pop some popcorn. I really wanna see the pundits stepping all over themselves to be first in line with the wrong predictions and watch them weasel out of the innacuracies they spew all night.
On a side note, I have been trolling the liberal sites (KOS, HuffPo, etc.) for the past couple of days. I’m telling you, the libs are turning on themselves like cannibals. It’s worse than a Jeffery Dauhmer/Hannibal Lecter/Donner Party convention. It could be a Discovery Channel or Animal Planet program!
They are split between Queen Hillary and Obama the Messiah and (as you would expect) the vitriol is flowing like scotch at a Kennedy family reunion. God, I love politics!
It’s a pet peeve. Call me crazy, but I consider orthography important.
Back to the topic at hand:
Springfield?
I can’t imagine anyone in MO, especially in the Ozarks, voting for McCain. I expect Huckabee to do well in MO, although I hope I’m wrong.
Guess I need to clearify my position – got off on my soapbox – When Texas turn comes it is my hope to vote for Mitt. McCain is the last resort vote.
Romneys different from McCain in that Romney governed a lib state exactly as they wanted. McCain on the other hand pushes liberalism on his conservative state. Intrepetation=Romney listens to what the people prefer, McCain dictates to the people what they shall prefer.
switched my affiliation from I to R, and voted for Ron Paul via absentee in CA. Domestic policy trumps foreign polcy.
Raining in KC and to turn into sleet then snow. Let the Global Warming begin.
There was not as many people at my polling station as their is normaly and I stayed to hand out some fliers, I made up about McCain but I’m sorry I just could’nt stand in the rain anymore, I could only hold out for about an hour and a half, I only got rid of about 23 out of 50.
I’m hearing Romney is leading in WV. Let’s go Mitt!
After reading this article….I will NEVER vote for Romney:
http://townhall.com/Columnists/DeroyMurdock/2008/02/04/mitts_vietnam_flip-flop_his_most_disturbing_yet
“NEW YORK — I have written repeatedly on Willard Mitt Romney’s serial flip-flops. Mitt is the born-again supply-sider who today swears he never raised taxes, even though he increased taxes and fees $983 million as Massachusetts governor. He is 2008’s stalwart defender of traditional values and man-woman marriage who, in 2002, distributed a hot-pink flyer among Boston’s gay community that read: “Mitt and Kerry Wish You A Great Pride Weekend! All citizens deserve equal rights, regardless of their sexual preference.” (Kerry Healey was the GOP nominee for lieutenant governor.) Romney is the Second Amendment enthusiast who brags about being a life-member of the National Rifle Association — “life” beginning in August 2006 — who said in 1994, “I don’t line up with the NRA.”
Pick nearly any topic, and you will find the new and old Romneys as far apart as two pugilists in opposite corners of a boxing ring, ready to knock each other’s lights out.
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney reaches into the crowd to shake hands after speaking at an appearance at Freeway Ford in Denver, Colorado February 1, 2008. REUTERS/Mark Leffingwell (UNITED STATES) US PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN 2008 (USA)
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But nothing prepared me for Romney’s most amazing flip flop of all. Somehow, I missed it, despite months of researching his bipolar record.
During CNN’s January 30 debate from the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, Romney said, “one of the two great regrets I have in life is I didn’t serve in the military. I’d love to have.” This echoes what he told the Boston Globe last June 24. “I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam.”
Now, as works with almost any subject, search Google or Nexis for “Romney” and “Vietnam” and any date before 2004, when he got serious about pursuing the 2008 GOP nomination.
Voila! There it is, from May 2, 1994. “I was not planning on signing up for the military. It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam,” Romney told the Boston Herald.”
Now, why on earth should I vote for Mitt Romney?? He NOT A CONSERVATIVE and never will be. He has ZERO experience fighting the war on terror.
I will vote for Fred Thompson (still on the ballot) today in AZ because he is still the only Conservative.
Besides, McCain will win this state anyways…the Sun City crowds love him.
One thing is more important and will have a greater long term impact than judges, and that is amnesty. So I will never vote for McCain, not if Satan himself was on the D ticket.
Forty million new lefty Dem voters and we can kiss America goodbye.
So we should vote for the consistent anti-conservative McCain over the inconsistent anti-conservative Romney? Only a liberal could make this argument.
The handwriting may already be on the wall. If McCain ends up being the nominee, the (Repub) people have spoken. Time to rally around the old USAF pilot.
Just saw an update at
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/dates/index.html#20080205
West Virginia Caucus- With 100% of precincts reporting, showed Romney at 41%, Huckabee at 33%, McCain at 16%, and Paul at 10%. Not surprising news, but still.
dan708
McCain was a Navy Pilot …
I’ll vote for Satan before I’ll vote for McCain.
Kattieanne said One thing that stops me from doing what you plan, John, is that we have alot of other races in November where we need to get Republicans in Congress. I’ll vote in November, but when it comes to the President, if McCain gets the nomination, I seriously doubt I will vote for him. I don’t think I can hold my nose on this guy. It will probably be left blank for President or I’ll write in a name.
Oops, that went wrong
Handwriting or not I’m not voting for McCain, as I have pointed out I am a conservative, and will not compromise my religious or conservative beliefs.
Polls had shown McCain winning MO. I am not putting much faith in polls these days. Really different results in polls for the same states, depending on who took the info. Polls were really wrong in 2006, so I am hoping they are wrong about McCain in MO.
Oh, forgot to tell you all, when my husband went to vote, there was a Ron Paul supporter dressed in Revolutionary War soldier garb in front with Ron Paul signs. ROFLOL Don’t think Ron Paul is going to fly down here.
Stock mkt tumbling, blood pressure rising. Glad Rush dispelled notion Bob Dole scolded him. Hope Fox is proud.
Along with thousands of others, my label is “an attention seeking fruitcake” bestowed by CDC/NIH re CFIDS/ME.
Our children range from very bright to severely retarded. I will always fight for what I believe in (especially since one child w/JD & MSW thinks capitalism is a dirty word!)
E-mails to Fox News may not help, but it just feels so good!
If anyone caucusing or voting today has any snes at all they will
CHUCK HUCK – the lying crapweasel who is being an attack mutt for McCain.
If you think about it, its Huckabee who screwed this election up. Killed romney by splitting the vote in Ioaw, killed Thompson by splitting in SC, pushed off Romney by splitting in FL.
I hope the evangelicals like President Clinton -because thats wht they achieved by senselessly asupporting Huckabee and killing the conservatives.
Stupid prigs.
And what the heck is going on at Fox News? They have become less and less “balanced” and are moving more and more toward old-line MSM in terms of “following the herd” in coverage, etc.
Please list your references for the panel to review.
I’m about to go to my local polling station here in Tennessee and cast my primary vote for Mitt Romney. I’m a little concerned about the timing of all of this here in the Mid-South. Check out this Public Severe Weather Outlook from the Storm Prediction Center in Norman Oklahoma.
A lot of those areas are going to the polls until this evening, when they are anticipating very, very nasty weather here in Western Tennessee, and Huckabee’s home state of Arkansas is ground zero for all of this later today.
Any effect on the vote totals or turnout?
Flenser – I’m a Texan who works in downtown Dallas and had the Mexican flag literally shoved in my face and Viva Mexico shouted at me by the marching anchor babies who were skipping the classes
that my tax dollars are paying for to demand rights by marching against this country…you can just imagine my opinion of McCain, Shamnesty and what the open borders crowd/No one is illegal crowd espouse but — Here again, McCain may be bad but if you listened to the last Dem debate in Ca, Clinton or Obama will be much worse. At least McCain would make them pay a token fine…yeah, right….
Again, my hope is that Mitt will be the nom but if not it is hold the nose and take the lesser of the evils.
#126 “I’ll vote for Satan before I’ll vote for McCain.”
There’s a difference?
This old retired USAF Boom Operator will not vote for the USN pilot. The closet calls I every had during aerial refuelings were with cowboys flying F-4s. Another reason not to vote for him.
Voted in MA this morning and for the first time ever, I had to wait in line. Took about ten minutes to get to the booth. Lots of Obama/Clinton signs. Happily voted for someone other than Willard Myth Romney.
HAH!.. with less than 1% of precincts reporting, ABC shows Dodd taking the democrap lead in NY.. rofl.
We have severe thunderstorm and wind warnings out, but nothing has happened yet. It was 62 when I got up and is 42 now. They’re saying we have a 100% chance of precep today. Hope they are wrong. Bad weather will keep people away.
re #140 ok seems they fixed that now.. heh
It’s a beautiful day
Here in LA
I’m on my way
The propositions to vote
NON of the candidates float.
I think you have Romney confused with Hillary Clinton. Hillary and McCain see eye to eye on most things. Hillary may be a bit more conservative. McCain would never pick a Mormon as his running mate.
VEEP could well be Huckabee.
This weather isn’t just a little precipitation to dampen the Super Tuesday spirit. This is the headline from Weather.com:
When the weather experts start saying things like that, look out. It’s going to take lives today and tonight. The only question is where, when and how many.
The other question is what will that do to the last few hours of voting in my area and the others mentioned.
I’ve got that antsy feeling in my gut and that is usually bad in this context.
Theres a panel? and there reviewing things?
can it be panel times now?
That is just despicable, underhanded, dirty politics. Typical of McCain.
I’ve been mostly with the ‘choose McCain against Hillary crowd’, ‘lesser of two evils’ crowd up till now, but if this happens, and McCain gets the nomination, I’ll vote Democrat.
The winds of “change” no doubt.
Michelle,
Remember this from Sharon Stone, Hillary won’t be elected President because men find her too intimidating..to sexually intimidating.
Well I think Bill O’Reilly could do a body language segment on men in Hillary’s presences, how many cross their legs when she is around:)
Hillary’s too sexy for my party, my party, no way I’m disco dancing…cough cough.
http://polisat.com/Basic_Instinct.htm
It happened very late last summer/early fall when they were plugging Rudy relentlessly. I started noticing and emailing them in October 2007. Fox lurched to the left to make Rudy look conservative. Fox has always been known as having right-wing tendencies and a loyal right-wing viewership and they were trying to create a “new normal” to accommodate Rudy. IMO, of course.
I just saw on WREG, the Memphis, TN. CBS affiliate that Memphis City Schools are closing early. If it’s not freezing weather, that’s highly unusual. They are scrolling cancellations of events along the screen during the soaps.
This might be really bad.
I’m off to vote Romney. I’ll check back in a little later today.
Stuck in Oregon – wishing I could put a vote in for Mitt. I almost think of McCain and Hillary as the same person, and that can’t be good.
Because AJ will not do one…
Faux Snooze Alert:
Paris is crying. Shrill is upset and thinks she may be trying to sneak in the back door and run for office.
Film at 11:00, 11:03, 11:07, 11:09, 11:13, 11:18, 11:22, 11:29……
Where Obama loses me. “I will end this war with Iraq.” What, we are not at war with Iraq, haven’t been for a few years now.
I just checked radar for TN and don’t really see anything. Maybe pop-up storms?
It’s Bush’s fault.
Hillary ’08 theme song of the day
During the soaps what?
I have a question for you politicos:
Regarding West Virginia: have former primaries been so dirty against one candidate, as they are against Romney?
This manipulation of the Huckster’s votes in WV towards McCain bugs me a lot.
Perhaps it has always been this way but the internet brings the news faster to us for awareness? Or, I have not been so alarmed by candidates prior to this primary..I never thought I would have to switch from the GOP to Independent, but I will if McCain is the nominee, I think. He does not represent my family.
Mitt getting screwed in WV. Some McCain supporters jumping to support Huck in order to keep Mitt from winning.
Current Vote:
H: 524
M: 11
R: 479
I wonder what Huckabee thinks of all this?
Arrggghhh!
*neck tension is beginning*
*runs for motrin*
During the soaps, John?
Have lost all respect for Huckabee, he is the spoiler. What position will he get as a reward?
Why are they so afraid of Mitt? Because he is not part of the DC crowd of thieves?
#161 On February 5th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, mlnicosia said:
“Mitt getting screwed in WV. Some McCain supporters jumping to support Huck in order to keep Mitt from winning.”
If that is indeed the case, then those people are acting no differently from, and no better than, the adolescent socialists.
So, Hillary’s coughing now. I wonder if she’s planning a last minute fainting spell……and you know a Marie Osmond-style fainting attempt is coming up….
She’ll try anything. Get out the smelling-salts.
WV results – 100% reporting
Huckabee get 52%
Romney gets 47%
McCain gets 1%
Paul gets 0%
That’s it. I didn’t realize McCain was that dirty. Liberal, yes. Dirty, backstabbing, unethical, no. Guess you learn something every day.
I say again, if he gets the nomination after this, hello Democrat ticket.
McCain had better realize he can’t hide his dirt any more—all is going to be exposed (until he controls the Internet and talk radio).
God help us.
From the switch in voting on the second go around in WV, it certainly would appear that Romney just got jacked.
Dang. Why am I so intrigued by politics, when it makes me so mad? It must be like watching a car wreck. Ugh!
So, 16% of West Virginians just screwed the ‘majority’ of 43% of voters out of their chosen caucus winner.
McCain will be so proud. /sarc/
This is sickening, and representative of the dirty, under the table deals that McCain specializes in…
McCain’s motto should be ‘A win for Huckabee is a win for McCain!’
Excuse me, this is nothing more than a stunt. If she knew she was sick, why would she go on National TV ? It’s so obvious. Everything Hillary does is going to get attention, and she knows this. Nothing more sympathetic as a frail woman who needs our help. It’s just a last ditch attempt.
And, if this doesn’t work, I’m sure she’ll come down with the vapors and need a big strong male voter to revive her. Men love to save the damsel in distress.
So obvious.
I see no mention of this anywhere else. I wonder what the chances are of anyone in the MSM being critical or even pointing out this Huck/McCain deal in WV.
I just talked to my Dad he is from Wv. He said and I quote “Well that figures those people have their heads up their arses, just look at who they keep putting in as Senator that POS Bird.”
If Huckabee is doing a “deal” with McCain to get the VP nod, that will show just how much Huck cares about the Christian vote – which he does not. He is a politician first.
Just got back from voting. Very good turnout, so far, I was told. When I came out, the storm had started. We’re having very heavy rain, flood warnings and tornado warnings. Temp has dropped over 20 degrees since this morning. Lovely.
While I still saw a steady line of people coming in to vote, I am concerned if the storms worsen this afternoon as predicted. Just hope the McCain and Huckabee people stay home.
This weather will certainly keep many seniors at home. I wonder who that age group seems to be supporting. I saw alot of seniors voting while I was there and very young people.
Romney is Mormon remember
Huck is an idiot. He’s not getting McSlaind VP nod. Julie Annie already has that tied up.
Perhaps the Huckster will be Secretary of Waste Management (for the excrement he is slinging towards Romney).
You are seeing McCain and Huckabee’s true colors—neither could do it alone, could they?
Huckabee will just use this as justification for him to have stayed in the race.
Why does anyone put Susan Estrich on television for political commentary? They just had her on Fox News with Greta Van Sustern.
It’s enough to make me vote for the Democrats if McPain gets it. Earlier I posted I’d stay home then posted that I’d write in Newt Gingrich, but the dirty tricks Huck and McGrandpa are pulling is strongly making me think of voting for the Democrat (Never done that or even thought about it before.)
Barry, do you remember Susan Estrich’s drunken railing when Bush won in either 2000 or 2004? It was hilarious.
I guess WV may become the trend of the day. I can hear ole McCain’s wicked laugh with the Huckster…
Dirty politics in the GOP—the Democrats dream is coming true.
WV what the.. oh, McCainites jumping to Huck to block Romney.. but are there really that many McCainites in WV? Maybe there’s just a lot of stupid there.
I heard yesterday that Lars Larson, a conservative radio talk show host received a call from a listener questioning whether McCAIN could legally run for president, as he WAS NOT BORN IN THE U.S. Larson is having a constitutional lawyer look at this, but says from what he can see, only people actually born in the U.S. can run, and being born on a U.S. military base abroad does not count.
I don’t get it. Nobody I speak to anywhere wants to vote McCain. Nobody. Most aren’t that keen on Romney either, but prefer him to McCain.. so what the hell is going on? Maybe these idiots couldn’t see ‘Mitt’ on the ballot, so voted ‘McCain’ since it starts with an ‘M’ ..seriously, one has to wonder.
Maybe we should have expected this but in any case it will not be forgotten in November. I will never vote for McCain.
The people of West Virginia just flushed 18 delegates down the toilet. Either that, or they purposefully combined their McCain/Huckabee delegates in order to give McCain the defacto win. Obviously, unable to see through the McCain/Huckabee Tag Team, they’ve got McCain one step further to the nomination. The nomination process in this country has to change. The system is rigged so that the RNC and DNC, with their MSM accomplices, nominate the candidates.
I’m getting closer to Ann Coulter’s position. Either I’ll vote for Hillary or stay home. To all the McCain/Huckabee supporters who’ll whine that we’re better off with them than the Democrat, I say you should have thought of that before supporting Liberal Republicans.
The stupidity of Republicans in this country is breathtaking.
Go vote for Congress and other good conservatives up for re-election. That’s the only way to stop Amnesty for 20 or 30,000,000 criminal scum, here illegaly. We’ve got to throw out Grahamnesty down here. John McCrazy can kiss my white a$$, I’ll write in Attila the Hun for POS.
Article 2 Section 1:
“Natural born citizen” I don’t think means exclusively born on the mainland. If I’m not mistaken, military bases are considered United States soil, I know US Navy ships are. It would make an interesting argument, but I don’t think it would go anywhere.
Lindsay, I try to vanquish all memories of Susan Estrich from my mind. But, now that you mention it, I do recall that episode with Estrich.
I ran across a picture of that Estrich segment on the WWW a while back. It reminds me, actually, of one of the unhinged photos of HRC.
Okay. Time to try to vanquish Estrich from my memory again, until her next appearance. Be gone, Satan!
As a member of Gen X, I must point out that Obama is a late Baby Boomer. The first Gen Xers were born in January of 1966.
Re the McCain born outside the US question, in 1936 the Panama Canal zone was a U.S. territory. McCain was born on an Air Force base, to U.S. citizens.
Article II of the Constitution says “No person except a natural born citizen . . . shall be eligible to the office of President.”
Congress passed legislation in 1790 stating that children of U.S. citizens born outside the U.S. shall be considered natural born. (George Romney, presidential candidate and father of candidate Mitt Romney, was born in Mexico to U.S. citizens btw.) The Supreme Court has not had the opportunity to rule whether that legislation is constitutional, but using this to stop McCain is a very very long shot.
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Susan Estrich and McCain sort of have the same grating voice—a mingled voice of liberalism.
I can’t look at McCoot, either, and won’t listen to him (I leave the room). The snarling photo Michelle uses is perfect.
Just caught a blurb on FOX that word came down from the McCain camp, which had 16% or so of the West Virginia vote on the first ballot (to Romney’s 47%), to switch their votes to Huckabee.
On the second ballot, looks like the McCain boters did indeed all switch to Huckabee (with the exception oif 1%).
This is clearly dirty poilitics. And if there was ANY question before about McCain and Huckabee working together against Romney, there should be no question now. How Huckabee can tell the public now with a straight face that he is still in the race for himself is absolutely ludicrous. Note that Huckabee has not been campaingning against McCain but against Romney. If you are in something to win, you set your sights on the frontrunner.
McCain and Huckabee are playing like this is the Tour de France, with Huckabee now drafting for McCain to allow McCain to secure the nomination. It would seem to me that this is at the very least unethical, and probably in violation of some campaign laws or rules.
After West Virginia, the McHuckabee conspiracy is out in the open. The two worst candidates in the GOP are calling all the shots. RIP GOP.
Well, the turnout in my neck of the woods in Oklahoma has been decent. I took my kids with me – since I homeschool and we are learning all about American government, voting, etc. My oldest who is 7 found it all very interesting. My younger two (5 and 3) didn’t really care.
I must say – I don’t really like anyone who is in the running. But I just can’t vote McCain….yet. But if it comes down to Clinton- McCain I’ll be voting McCain. The thought of any Clinton back in the White House rather sickens me…..
There are alot of other caucus’s today. I wonder why they haven’t started showing results yet, or was WV just REALLY early?