Super Tuesday: It continues; Update: Early exits
Scroll down for updates…Early exit poll results: Jim Geraghty’s got them…Missouri, Georgia close; McCain ahead by only 5 in Arizona…talking heads excited about Obama surge
I’m starting a fresh afternoon thread as Super Tuesday heads into late afternoon. Morning thread is here.
The Romney campaign sends this statement about the WVa. results:
“Unfortunately, this is what Senator McCain’s inside Washington ways look like: he cut a backroom deal with the tax-and-spend candidate he thought could best stop Governor Romney’s campaign of conservative change.
“Governor Romney had enough respect for the Republican voters of West Virginia to make an appeal to them about the future of the party based on issues. This is why he led on today’s first ballot. Sadly, Senator McCain cut a Washington backroom deal in a way that once again underscores his legacy of working against Republicans who are interested in championing conservative policies and rebuilding the party.”
Huckabee picked up 18 delegates. More: “Another nine GOP national convention delegates from West Virginia will be distributed based upon the outcome of a May 13 Republican primary. The winner in each of the state’s three congressional districts will get three delegates. Of the three Republican National Committee members from West Virginia who each have a vote at the national convention, only one has declared a preference—for Romney.”
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Reader Gary finds a silver lining:
Although I’ve voted Republican/conservative for the last 20 years, I have never been a member of the Republican party.
I just got off the fence and joined the Illinois Republican party. I felt that I didn’t have the right to complain about the direction the party is heading when I wasn’t even a member. I want to ensure that I do my part to ensure another McCain never gets the nod again. And if I fail, at least I will have the knowledge that I did my best to prevent it from happening.
So….I guess all the hype about McCain did have one positive effect.
Reader Matt reports from Illinois:
Just got back to work from the polls here in Champaign, IL. Though the state is likely to lean heavily to Obama or Hillary in the National election, there is a vocal group of Romney supporters in town. I voted this morning at 7:40am local time, and as of then, 100+ ballots had been received. Not that I’d expect anything different from our district, but it was a very quiet atmosphere. There were no advertisements for any of the presidential hopefuls, Republican or Democrat. I was disappointed to see a County Provision that asked if the voters of Champaign County would vote to force our representatives to limit funding in Iraq to “just enough to bring the troops home”.
Judith Kesher reports from the scene in NY.
The superdelegate spat on the Dem side offers a brief moment of schadenfreude.
Howard Mortman shares the tale of a Republican tree in Brooklyn.
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Update 6:20pm Eastern: Geraghty’s got early exit poll results.
Check this one out:
Arizona: McCain 44, Romney 39, Huckabee 8.
The Obama surge builds…
In the Democratic races, Barack Obama led among black voters and Hillary Rodham Clinton led among Hispanic voters. Obama led among white men, while Clinton led among white women. Overall, Obama led among men and Clinton led among women, although her advantage among women appeared smaller than was seen in early primary states.
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If McCain ends up winning this thing we can blame it all on John Edwards’ hair. Why you ask? Because it was a well-timed joke on Edwards’ hair that got Mike Huckabee the initial bit of media attention that got the MSM talking about Huck (remeberm Brownback tells the same joke in the next debate, bombs it, and is out of the race shortly afterwards).
Huck’s folksiness impresses enough people to give him the support needed to climb in the polls and he continues to show the same charm in the proceeding debates. By the time most people get a hold of Huck’s record he’s challenging Rudy in Florida and taking away Romney’s votes in South Carolina.
While never getting enough support to win the nomination, Huckabee siphons enough votes away from Romney, which gives McCain wins in key states (most likely) a Romey defeats where he would have otherwise won (W. Virginia).
So remember if the guy who eschews converatism on every major issue becomes the GOP candidate, the root cause of it all (pun sligtly intended), may be John Edwards hair.
I have proof that MCain is a democrat: Today on “The View” (don’t ask) I overheard Joy Behar make a statement about how she liked Hillary, Obama AND MCCAIN!!! now if SHE likes him, I an totally convinced he is a democrat.
Bullseye! Any sound bites yet of Huckabee using this victory to proclaim himself a viable candidate??
My State isn’t voting today So I have to hope that the rest of the country will vote Mitt for me.
The DOW is now down 370+
Coincidence?
Yes I doubt that the markets are shifting based on Todays Primary.
Previous thoughts:L
It’s a beautiful day
Here in LA
I’m on my way
The propositions to vote
NON of the candidates float.
My polling place was almost empty!
Two Dems. ahead of me.
For those who say they are staying home-
go and vote for the issue items because they usually entail TAX INCREASES!!!!$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Now we get to see whether Huckabee has even a shred of character. Will he protest the vote, and will he forfeit his delegates? He did not “win” anything in WVa, he was merely the unwitting tool of the McCain campaign in benefitting from such a sleazy deal.
Looks like West Virginia is Huck’s 30 pieces of silver.
The fact that the DOW is down so much may reflect the hopelessness many investors feel looking at the polling today.
>>Sadly, Senator McCain cut a Washington backroom deal in a way that once again underscores his legacy of working against Republicans who are interested in championing conservative policies and rebuilding the party.”>>
Huckabee’s losing. He objects to Romney for religious reasons. Strongly. He will _not_ back down quietly….5 will get you 10 he’s going to wait till he can be a “kingmaker”. Except that “kingmaker” usually means using one’s power (delegates) to achieve some benefit. In this case, I think it’s a given that his delegates will go to McCain, so the idea here is to bleed off as many delegates as two people – Huckabee and McCain – can, and then combine them to give the nomination to McCain.
I’m disgusted.
Down state Illinois is Red Country. I recall back to the Illinois State Fair they had a straw poll and Romney won it. I hope my former home state delivers for Romney. Crook County can go to Obama on the dems side. I hope Obama takes it from Hillary.
I just got back from voting and I voted for Romney. My county is just outside of St. Louis, Jefferson county and is heavily democrat. A lot of union workers and we were represented by Gebhart and now Carnahan.
Interesting thing, most of the people I talk to are voting for McCain because they can’t stand Hillary, think Obama is a pansy and belive that Mormonism is a cult and they all practice polygamy.
Anybody who plays the market knows that when investors smell a skunk deal on the part of politicians, they bail on stocks and look for more stable investments. It is not the polling that makes them nervous, it is the dealing.
Please people, get a bit of a clue – the markets are not down because of Super Tuesday. Tomorrow may be a different story once results are out, but no effect this early on. The cause is the service sector’s dismal performance, and some big-namer economist saying (again) that recession is here.. the market is jittery as hell, Super Tuesday is unrelated.
It is really sad that Huckabee is running for veep spot on a McCain ticket. McCain is Dole’s second coming and Huckabee is going to end up like Jack Kemp. McCain will lose the election and Huckabee will become a insignificant player in the GOP.
Vince, thanks for voting for Romney. I am a non-Mormon who lived in Salt Lake City, Utah for 10 years. I can assure you that all Mormons are not polygamists. I really, really hope people are not that ignorant or bigoted. Utah has the highest quality of living in the country—the Mormons I know are good people, and NOT ONE tried to convert me from my Protestant faith. I am far more concerned with McNasty’s amnesty than a Mormon president. (Laura Ingraham just said McNasty was McCain’s nickname in high school—very fitting.
touch wood Jacob
Unwitting tool – my behind!
That didn’t help either. Those economists know how to manipulate the market for sure. But you look at market fluctuations when politicians screw around and you will see dips as well.
I’m opposed to RomnestyCare for the same reason I’m opposed to McAmnesty: They are liberals. To pretend the RomnestyCare is some sort of conservative is a joke.
http://www.trueromney.com
His judicial nominations alone are enough to make Hillary proud.
I think the WV deal just shows how McNasty works under the table. I will never, ever forgive him for his amnesty tricks…never.
I don’t care that he was a POW war vet, and am tired of his trumpeting that fact—he betrayed our country with his actions last year. I expect him to continue his actions whether he would win in November or not (and he won’t win).
I doubt I could ever vote for McCain. Perhaps I will change in November, but I don’t think so right now. He is a disgusting man who has a terrible temper–not someone who I want in the White House.
Happy Chinese New Years!!!
McCain is too smart (I think) to make Huckabee his VP. He wants to win and at all cost, almost as much (if not more) than Hillary. He just made Huckabee his sucker.
I don’t celebrate Communist holidays.
McCain was a POW vet because he sucked at being a soldier – he wouldn’t have been caught otherwise.
HEHE ok I know that’s really unfair and harsh, but I’m sick of hearing that used as a reason to vote for him.
Well,I’m getting that same cold hollow feeling in my gut just like I did back in 1996 when I was running Lamar Alexander’s campaign here in Houston and I realized that Bob Dole was going to be the nominee after Super Tuesday and that it meant 4 more years of the Clintons
My prediction of the night Mitt does better then expected in AZ. AZ has the 4th largest percentage of Mormons in any state. Only three other states have more Mormons the AZ. There is a large anti McCain presence in his own state. No poll I have seen has McCain over 50 percent in his home turf. I’m not saying Mitt wins but it will be close.
I normally have the Fox news on now for news, but with all this political stuff going on, not today. I am so sick of the negative adds and hateful talking from all of them. This is only Feb. We have seven more months of this. At least I can get in-put for MM and HA to keep me informed. As well as the posters here.
The mute is on for the ads and if anyone of them comes on. If I have to, I will get more batteries to keep it going so I don’t have to hear this. How can you justify spending $200,000,00 for a job that only pays $250,000 a year? I have made up my mind who I will vote for, but if they don’t win I will vote for the best person I feel left. Hopefully a Rep. will get it. GADS this mess sucks! I B stressed.
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Myth should quit whining about W. Virginia. If you don’t like the game, don’t play.
After the caucuses tonight, my decades as a registered Republican will come to an end.
Goodbye GOP – I don’t know you anymore. You’ve become the corrupt party – back room deals, backstabbing and bull manure. So greedy for earmarks and power that you have abandoned principle. The party of the Beltway Elite will have to see if they can manufacture votes without me.
Seeing how he did this, I will NEVER vote for that dishonest dishonorable SOB McCain.
Or a Cabinet post.
There is no reason for Huckabee to be in the race other than as a spoiler for McCain.
The West Virginia results are another example of the old style, inside the beltway, politics of McCain and Huckabee.
Uh, that’s how caucuses and conventions work, Nit. When there is no majority reached in a round, voters switch allegiances until a consensus is achieved. The WV results show that many voters rated you #3. Be a man. Deal with it.
This is what a lot of people have suspected–liberal Huckleberry is in the race solely to spite Romney and conservatives, especially talk show hosts like Rush Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham, who pretty much derailed his candidacy by informing voters about how liberal he was in Arkansas.
It is sad because those voting for Huckleberry actually think he is a conservative because the MSM had been so promoting him.
If McCain wins the nomination, I wonder if the delegates Huckleberry won can switch their votes to Romney, the conservative. I’m not exactly sure how this process works.
I’ld like to string up Huckabee. That guys knows he can’t win and he never says anything negative about McCain. It’s clear, he’s a SPOILER.
This election, don’t be a Jackass.
chsw
Corona – the point being made is that Huckabee, in many people’s view, is only staying in the race to split the conservative vote and allow McCain to win.
Without him in the race at this point – there is a good chance that more than 1/2 of his voters would go to Romney.
Look at all the attacks coming from Huckabee – every one of them is aimed at Romney. Why, if you’re running to win, would you not go after the front-runner?
Only reason: He’s struck a deal with him. It’s become 2 against 1 in the GOP race – and that may be ‘politics’ as usual – but that is the whole point.
We’re tired of politics as usual. McCain doesn’t represent change – he represents solid Washington politics.
So John McCain is the front runner! The inevitable republican nominee!
Why?
I haven’t even had a chance to vote yet. So my vote won’t mean a damn thing?
So let me get this straight. After only 6 state primary’s and with 44 states to go, it’s all over? Why do I feel like I just got scr@*d? UGH!!!
Just read the story on ‘thehill.com’
Those who think there wasn’t a deal made between the 1st and 2nd balloting?
Check out these numbers:
2nd ballot: Huck 567, Romney 521, McCain 12
BUT the 1st ballot totals were:
Romney 464, Huckabee 375, McCain176
This was included in the article:
McCain will change Washington? Hardly.
He plays the game as well as anyone, it seems.
this picture says it all
you are the company you keep, mcpain!
Just back from voting. It was D-E-A-D. My hubby and I voted for Romney. We are in NJ so who knows what will come of it. Again, McCain may win the nomination but conservatives far and wide will do everything they can to derail the Old Man Express. For those of you peddling McCain – care to comment on the integrity and character of McCain now, after W. Va? Or are you of the mind that the end justifies the means?
The RLDS (Reorganized Latter Day Saints)World Headquarters is in Independence, Mo. KC Metro so there is a large population of Mormons here but obviously I don’t know where their loyalties lie. I’m thinking with Romney but I really do not know for sure.
Oh, good one. Waiting to see the responses to that vile act. Huckabee should be banned from the Party for that one. What happened to Reagan’s 11th commandment?
It seems that we will have either a marxist or a liberal RINO as our next president. I fear our country has one foot in Hell and the other about to step in. Hate to sound pessimistic but after the West Virginia backroom deal, it is clear we are dealing with dishonest people.
chirp, chirp, chirp (crickets)
Well, so much for the Huckabee character question:
On another thread I wrote
The Huckabee/McCain people went so far as to deny initially there was any “collusion” behind this back-stabbing, McCainivellian act of infamy.
What does that say about the level of contempt for conservative ideals and the naked cynicism behind these people.
I repeat…
Some of you may forget this day and the people behind it…
I NEVER will.
I don’t understand how they called the damn WVA primary for Huckabee before the polls had even closed, will soemone please explain how that’s even possible?
And it doesn’t look like ROmney is winning anywhere, that’s a very bad sign
What? Decisively won? Mitt got 41% of the vote on the first vote. Decisive my arse.
Chinese New Year existed long before the commies, and in fact long before America. It is NOT a commie holiday.
I think you missed John Ansell’s point.
Just for you interested in the LDS Church and polygamy…the church did away with polygamy in 1890…for different reasons, 1 main reason was acceptance into the United States Of America. In 1896 Utah bcame the 45th state of the union. After the abolishment of polygamy by the church n 1890 different factions broke off from the church and continued practicing plural marriage. I know of The Restored Church of…..which is prominent in southern Utah and Northern Az. And as mentioned above the Reorganized …..all these pseudo churches have nothing to do with The Church of Jesus Christ of Ladder Day Saints. Their basic belief is in the Bible and Jesus Christ as their savior.
It is not a cult. You find all types people in any religion, but I have to tell you from personal experience(50 + yrs) you will find no better, harder working, more generous people in the world than the Mormons as a whole.
And no I am not Mormon…non-affiliated if you were wondering.
I’m voting for Mitt.
They are called politicians and they are all the same, no matter what the party.
#47
I think that West Virginia was a very unique case, in that they didn’t have an actual primary vote, like the other states, but a convention of delegates. They were all in one location, and voted in a first and second round, and would have continued voting until one candidate got over 50% of their votes, and was declared the winner.
Romney had 41% in the first round, but by lacking at least 50%, they had to keep voting, and McCain and Huck struck a deal that gave most of McCain’s delegates to Huck, just so Romney wouldn’t win.
All of the posters here who are complaining should complain to the WV republican party for setting it up that way.
But as a number of posters have said, the result just smacks of oldtime Washington politics. Unfortunately, you may hate the players, but in the case of WV, you should probably hate the game more.
Thanks for that. I din’t know how I would break it to my wife that she celebrates commies since her mission in life is to make Taiwan a free state. Free and Clear from Red China.
Is not WV the state that gave us King Pork…KKK Byrd?
I’ve said it before and today just enforces my opinion of the primaries as their currently set up. I don’t understand cross-over voting being allowed nor switching parties for the primary then switch back before the general and voting or independents voting.
When this is all over look and see who has the most republican votes…any guesses. How about Romney but he’ll be on his way back to work and making more money trying to stay ahead of tax increases coming.
Good to hear of her efforts – the commies have destroyed a once-great nation. My wife has left the shackles of communism and today voted for the first time in her life after becoming a citizen of the great US of A last August.
Fox is showing their exit polls already, and as you can imagine heavily biased toward McCain, nothing in the midwest is finished. Nevertheless they are “oohing” and “ahhing” over them as if they actually show them something.
Hello, hello, there is life to the west of NYC and Washington DC. Not that FOX would know that.
In Minnesota (a caucus state) we don’t start until 7 pm.
Congradulations to your wife and her hard work to become a citizen, it’s nice to know she is free to express her opinions and vote on who she believes should lead our country. Thank her for participating in the process.
LOL, you will never convince them.
Jiobaobubai, I second BLind Mule. Congrats to your wife. It’s got to be a proud moment for her.
John Ansell and Blind_Mule – thanks, and yes, she is very happy. When I talked to her after voting she said she was excited but now nervous and she’d probably be up all night with me watching the results.
Her folks happen to be staying with us for the winter and they are having a blast watching all of this and her father keeps calling her #2 sister in China to tell the how things are REALLY going. Even her sister said “don’t vote for Hillary!”
Per early exit polling (that I have not a lot of faith in since 2004)the old coot does not look so popular in his home state of Arizona.
Still praying for conservative voters to WIN with Romney tonight! Missouri looks very close,too. GO MITT!!!
Just goes to show you how stupid people are in this country.
The McCain/Huckabee tag team needs to be stopped. If not, I will go along with Ann Coulter and either vote for Hillary or sit this one out. For those who would say that McCain/Huckabee is better than a Democrat, I say you should have thought of that before ramming those two liberals down my throat.
Lovely. Just heard Bill Kristol saying the right is suffering from McCan’t Derangement Syndrome. Yeah, right.
No, it’s like…McCan’t is a loser and he’s not right for the party. And that’s deranged? Uh. I don’t think so.
I just got back from the polls here in So. Calif. When I first got there, the place was empty. By the time I left, there was a line.
It is going to be a mess out here. People were really complaining about having to use paper ballots instead of voting electronically. I have voted at the same polling location for the last 7 years, yet they did not have my name or two others at our address on their voter lists. In fact, our entire street has been left off that precinct’s list, so everyone had to vote using a provisional ballot. What normally takes me about 10 minutes to accomplish, took almost an hour and a half today. Like I said, a mess! The poor poll workers were so stressed, yet remained cheerful and helpful.
Every paper ballot is placed in an envelop, so opening and counting ballots is going to take forever.
I read that Huckabee “asked God to smite Romney.” I also read that there are a lot
of absentee ballots across the country that have been cast for candidates that are
no longer in the races and the powers that be don’t have the foggiest idea how to
deal with them, i.e., give them a do over or what. I think they should go ahead and count them and see what happens. Who knows, maybe Fred won something.
I read that Huckabee “asked God to smite Romney.” I also read that there are a lot
of absentee ballots across the country that have been cast for candidates that are
no longer in the races and the powers that be don’t have the foggiest idea how to
deal with them, i.e., give them a do over or what. I think they should go ahead and count them and see what happens. Who knows, maybe Fred won something.
Although I joked I would, I can not vote for Hillary, but I will NEVER vote for McCain. Surely there will be a libertarian candidate. Or better yet, if McCain gets it, then starting in the Summer, everyone should advocate for a Romney write-in for the November ballot.
Armigerous#26@4:35
I’m getting the same sick feeling I had the night Bill Clinton won the first time. The second time I just about threw up. My wallet just slammed shut for political contributions. I cannot, will not, contribute to my own displacement within my own party. If the national party wants to go along with this, even endorses it’s validity, it means they’ve left me – not the other way around.
Enjoy what’s left of Fat Tuesday. It may not look near as rosy this time next year.
I was talking with one of my co-workers about the dirty tricks division of the West Virginia Republican Party and he was sure Romney would lose because of the prejudice against Mormons. He started talking about McCain and I clued him in to who his “open borders” advisor was he can’t stand Juan Hernandez either. I sent him the link to Michelle’s past reports on who McAmnesty associates with. I may have found another convert to the vast right wing conspiracy who no longer believes the lies of the MSM. Unfortunately they have done their job very well in covering for him and now that the Huckster has shown himself to be the spoiler I too have a really bad feeling about tonight.
It’s not over till it’s over but this is what I said in another post.
I will vote for Romney here in PA but fear the race will be over by then. If its McCain and whoever, I’ll still vote on the local issues etc. but not for president. The Republicans have disappointed one time too many for me…
Probably, no one cares, but I am listening to The Osmonds to support Romney. No, really. Listening to One Bad Apple now. Maybe the Mormon Love Groove Vibe will cause things to work favorably for Mitt.
I love exit polling they have 1% of the vote in onse state and they have 4% in another and Fox has called the winner in both states. How the in the world can they call these states, what I think would be funny if they called States for McCain and the total count turned to Romney.
Why yes, it’s the year of the rat, in more ways than one. Thanks
This is why I’ve come to favor approval voting. Approval voting eliminates the spoiler effect. It favors the the candidate most people find acceptable, rather than the most preferred, which is either a bug or a feature. It does have problems when two candidates are ties.
I’d like to see it used in primaries.