Super Tuesday night: Huck does a victory lap; Romney: “This campaign is going on!”; Hillary “won’t let anyone Swift Boat this country’s future;” McCain: “…get used to the idea that we are the Republican front-runner for the presidential nomination;” Obama: “Our time has come;” Hill and McCain projected winners in Cali
Scroll down for updates…2/6 morning update…Obama claims delegate lead…
12:20am tally….
MCCAIN: AZ, CA, CT, DE, IL, MO, NJ, NY, OK
HUCKABEE: AL, AR, GA, TN, WV
ROMNEY: CO, MA, MN, MT, ND, UT
CLINTON: AR, AZ, CA, MA, NY, NJ, OK, TN
OBAMA: AL, CT, CO, DE, GA, ID, IL, KS, MN, MO, ND, UT
HUCKABEE: AL, AR, GA, TN, WV
MCCAIN: AZ, CA, CT, DE, IL, MO, NJ, NY, OK
ROMNEY: CO, MA, MN, MT, ND, UT
Rove’s delegate math:
McCain (took every WTA state)- 520
Huck – 200
Romney – 170 (pre-Cali) – 200-250 (estimated after Cali)
Mapping the results here.
***
Alright, here’s your Super Tuesday night thread. (Morning thread here; afternoon thread here.) Settle in for a roller coaster ride tonight on the GOP side. Georgia is too close to call–with Romney and Huck at 33 each and McCain at 30. The early story on the Dem side is Obama, Obama, Obama-mania.
Update 7:45pm Eastern. The Other McCain has more Georgia results. He says stay tuned for metro Atlanta returns.
EP at Slapstick Politics has full Colorado caucus coverage. He writes: “Given the ‘purple’ state status and closed caucus policy, it is surprising that Colorado hasn’t rated much in the way of national attention.”
Update 8:06pm Eastern. CNN’s projections are here.
Update 8:12pm Eastern. Watch Arizona. Buzz tonight is all about the dead-heat right down between McCain and Romney in McCain’s home state.
This is not a surprise if you’ve been reading this blog.
What Arizona Republicans think of John McCain: “Arizona Senator John McCain may be doing well in national polls but the folks back home that know him best don’t seem to agree. According to a straw poll taken on Saturday, January 19 of 721 Republican Precinct Committeemen from Maricopa County, Arizona, McCain’s home county, at their annual county meeting, 59.2% found him unacceptable for the GOP presidential nomination and only 11% find him acceptable.”
FYI, Arizona is a winner-take-all contest.
Update 8:25pm Eastern. How AP is leading their latest dispatch…
Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton was strongly supported by Hispanics and people seeking an experienced candidate, but held only modest leads with women and whites, two of her usual strengths, in early national exit polls Tuesday. A coalition of black, young white and higher-income voters were flocking to Sen. Barack Obama.
On the Republican side, preliminary data from exit polls of voters in 16 states showed Sen. John McCain was getting strong support from moderates and people valuing experience and leadership. He even had a modest edge among party regulars, a better showing for him with that group than usual. Mitt Romney was dominating the GOP’s most conservative voters and people wanting a strong stance against illegal immigrants.
Update 8:35pm Eastern. Fred Barnes is marveling right now on FNC about Huck possibly taking “five states! five states!” Calls it a “remarkable comeback.” Before anyone gets carried away with talk of a Huck resurgence, though, most of his victories are taking place in states that aren’t winner-take-all. Whatever delegates he picks up in Georgia, Alabama, etc., will be more than offset by his zero showings in NY and NJ and his weak showings in California, Illinois.
Update 8:37pm Eastern. As expected, McCain takes Delaware.
Update 8:44pm Eastern. Go here for Missouri results as they come in. Still very early. Only one percent reporting.
Update 8:48pm Eastern. Interesting how McCain campaigned in Massachusetts claiming he had a chance, while taking his own home state backyard for granted.
Update 9:04pm Eastern. Hill holds on to NY. The Corner says Missouri is still a near-dead heat according to exit polls.
Update 9:06pm Eastern. Bottom line so far on the GOP side: McCain was supposed to win Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee (see realclearpolitics.com). Huckabee may win all three (plus Arkansas and West Virginia.) A week ago, McCain was also strongly favored to win Missouri, Arizona, and California. It is now unclear whether he will win any of those three. The night’s a long way from over, but I’ve got to think McCain is not very happy right now.
Update 9:08pm Eastern. CNN projects that Obama takes Delaware — winner-take-all. It has been seen as a bellwether. Both Clinton and Obama campaigned there. Obama takes 90 percent of the black vote.
Update 9:19pm Eastern. Mac takes NY. Hill puts NJ away.
Update 9:30pm Eastern. Obama nabs Ala…and Kansas.
Update 9:35pm Eastern. Rove says McCain should be happy…Kristol notes the paradox: McCain’s winning, but he has structural weaknesses…Romney has to win somewhere other than Mass and Utah.
Update 9:58pm Eastern. McCain takes Oklahoma. Obama and Romney take Utah. Romney’s in third in Missouri. Not good. The Other McCain thinks McCain will come in third in Georgia.
Update 10:09pm Eastern. Huck does a victory dance in Arkansas: “Over the past few days, people have been trying to say that this is a two-man race. It is! And we’re in it…sometimes, one small, smooth stone is a whole lot more effective than a whole load of armor…and all the gold in the world…We’re still on our feet and much to the amazement of many, we’re getting there, folks.”
“There” being a vice presidential slot, I assume.
Update 10:23pm Eastern. Popular GOP Miss. governor Haley Barbour just finished a segment on Fox. He suggested that Huck at some point drop out and not carry on until the very last primary. But not until a clear favorite is chosen. Which hasn’t happened yet tonight.
Update 10:28pm Eastern. Obama projected to win Minnesota.
Update 10:34pm Eastern. Romney’s speaking: “One thing that’s clear: This campaign is going on!…We’re going to go all the way to the convention.”
Missouri blogging at at Gateway Pundit. Reader Matt e-mails that Kansas City and St. Louis still have a lot of ballots to count.
Update 10:44pm Eastern. Cable nets project McCain the winner in Arizona. Eked it out. (Update: Lead widens) 47 percent of conservatives went with Romney. Huck is the projected winner in Ga.
Update 10:53pm Eastern. Hillary speaks. Shrieks. Whatever. She’s doing a LOT of double-pointing. “Tonight is America’s night and it’s not over yet!” She’s plugging her website. And now…the first subprime reference of the night. Nutroots pander alert: Hillary proclaims: “I won’t let anyone Swift Boat this country’s future.”
If you haven’t ordered “To Set The Record Straight, How Swift Boat Veterans, POWs and the New Media Defeated John Kerry” by Scott Swett and Tim Ziegler, now’s the time.
Update 11:04pm Eastern. California polls have just closed. No winners projected there yet. Romney takes ND.
CNN says McCain just passed Huck in Missouri with votes from St. Louis coming in. Not looking good for Romney.
Update 11:13pm Eastern. Romney takes Minnesota.
Update 11:15pm Eastern. With 8% reporting in Colorado, Romney 49%; McCain 25%.
Update 11:30pm Eastern. CNN projects Huck the winner in Ga. belatedly (Fox called it a while ago). Tennessee is close – McCcain 32, Huck 34, Romney 24.
Montana results show:
Romney 38%
Paul 25%
Like commenter DougT, I haven’t seen anyone announce a projection on MT yet. Not sure why.
Update 11:39pm Eastern. McCain speaks from Arizona. “We’ve some of the biggest states in the country…I think tonight we have to get used to the idea that we are the Republican front-runner for the presidential nomination…and I don’t really mind it one bit.” He’s reading from a teleprompter. Congrats Huckabee for his success. “I salute you. I salute Gov. Huckabee.” Pauses. Congratulates Gov. Romney. “I salute them, too.”
CNN has a split screen. Obama is about to speak.
Update 11:45pm Eastern. Obama in Illinois. He’s saluting Dick Durbin. Ugh. “Our time has come, our movement is real, and change is coming to America.”
Update 11:56pm Eastern. Via RCP, Cali is looking up for Hill…
11:45 PM – Exit polls for the Dems in California look good for Hillary Clinton. Obama is thumping her by 30 points among Independents, but they’re only 18% of the vote tonight. Meanwhile, Clinton is beating him among registered Democrats (79% of the electorate) by 14 points, 55-41. Also of note, Latino Democrats were 26% of the vote in California, they broke 70-30 in favor of Clinton. -TOM BEVAN
12:03pm Eastern. Obama’s giving the longest speech of the night/morning. Milking all the free media he can get. “Change will not come if we wait for some other person…We are the change that we seek.”
An endless string of Chauncey Gardner moments.
Here we go: “Yes, he can!” “Yes, she can!” “Yes, we can!”
Update 12:07am Eastern. CNN calls TN for Huck.
Update 12:13am Eastern. FNC’s Megyn Kelly going over exit poll numbers. Among conservative and immigration voters in Cali, Romney is thumping McCain. Obama and Clinton 48/48 among liberal voters.
FNC calls Colorado for Romney and calls Cali for Hillary and McCain.
Update 1:57am. Where Hillary’s Latino votes came from.
See what others have said
Note from Michelle: This section is for comments from michellemalkin.com's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that I agree with or endorse any particular comment just because I let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with my terms of use may lose his or her posting privilege.
Trackbacks
- The Daily Conservative
- The Carden Chronicles
- A Blog For All
- silent E speaks - Conservatively Speaking from Western Waukesha County » Super Tuesday
- Macsmind
- Hot Air » Blog Archive » Open thread: Super Tuesday results! Update: McCain wins New Jersey, Connecticut, Illinois; Update: McCain 36, Romney 36 in … Arizona? Update: Hillary wins Massachusetts, New Jersey; Update: Hillary overperforming
- Webloggin - Blog Archive » Super Tuesday Projections/Results - McCain takes OK, NY, CT, IL, DE and NJ - Clinton takes NY, OK, AR and TN
- Suitably Flip
- Oblogatory Anecdotes - Charge of the RINOs
- Jeremayakovka
- It’s Super Duper Schmooper Tuesday! : The Sundries Shack
- Neocon News » The writing on the wall for Mitt Romney.
- Church and State
- Ideas and Issues
- Video: Super Tuesday Results and Victory Speeches - Shallow Nation
- Malkin Live Blogs Super Tuesday at No Man’s Blog
- Lump on a Blog » Blog Archive » A New Word: Suicide Voter
- Dean's World
- www.darrellepp.com » Blog Archive » Darrell’s Election Coverage 2: Dirty Work, and Links
- No Man's Blog
- » Blog Archive » The highs and the lows.
- play roller coaster games
- autopilot off what i want
Comments
You must be logged in to post a comment.
Categories: 2008 campaign, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Mitt Romney
Riehl World View
» Bet: Ratings Fail - Oprah/Obama Christmas Special
Mudville Gazette
» The five-year planNewsBusters.org
» Oprah To Do Primetime Christmas Special With The ObamasRiehl World View
» Dowd: Dem Elites Displeased With Obama As Palin RisesStop The ACLU
» SEALs Charged With Assault for Arresting Top TerroristPundit & Pundette
» How much did that "tent" cost?
It would seem statistically impossible for Mitt to lose MT at this point.
Here in California, at least the Sacramento stations, they are all talking about how Mccain is going to be taking the state.
I can’t figure how my wife ended up voting for him, but it is a testament to our marriage that she can still vote the way she wants. I just had hoped she would have gone for Mitt.
now, to stay home in November and not vote at all should McVain get the nomination is not the way to go. Theree is never a reason to let a Democrat, especially either of those two, in the Oval Office, ESPECIALLY while we are fighting for the life of our nation against the Islamic Global Domination Jihadists, and staying home in protest will be doing just that. McCain may be one of the worst choices we as a party could do, but he is still 1000x’s better than either Obama or Clinton.
Romney has MN!!
You are correct, Ladybug. I forgot about runoffs. That is the only time you are held
to party affliation. And….if there is a runoff and you did not vote in the primary but
want to vote in the runoff, you may. Hope this helps clarify things.
Left you a comment Miss Ladybug.
Texans….don’t forget that we start early voting for the primary Feb 19 and finish
early voting Feb 29th with election day the following Tues, Mar 4th.
Have ya’ll heard about early voting? You can vote at any polling place in your
county for that period of time. Say there is a polling place close to where you work
and you want to vote there instead of the polling place in your precinct or a
precinct that yours has been consolidated with, you can do so.
CNN has McCain leading CA with 1%. I am gong to throw up.
It looks like Mitt is going to win a bunch of small states (MT, ND, etc…) but it also looks like he will fall behind Huckabee in the delegate count. He needs a big win in CA to keep his campaign viable.
I think there is an early voting location at one of the grocery stores nearby…
Very early there RIC…probably just the Berkeley precincts.
If it comes down to McCain & Huckabee as the final two, the GOP can kiss my @$$. The party will be so completely screwed, it’s not even funny.
Ignatius Reilly>>Now and forever a broken glass opponent of the traitor McCain (and the populist, sly religious bigot, Huckabee)>
My husband just reminded me of the precinct conventions. You have to have voted in the primary, either during early voting or on election day. If you want to
attend the precinct convention, it is held on the night of the election just after the
polls close, in the polling place. If you want to attend, ask an election worker for
a piece of paper proving that you have voted. You will have to show your voters
registration or something that you got from an election worker when you voted
whether you voted early or on election day. The precinct convention is the point
at which the conventions start. This is when the delegates to the next convention
are chosen. Then, in that convention, delegates for the state convention are
chosen and then the national. Just be aware that there is a lot of cronyism that
goes on in picking delegates.
Mitt wins MT…Paul came in 2nd…
100% counted, but still no declaration of a winner…I don’t get it.
12% in CO…Romney to 50%.
Gap is closing in CA, too. Mitt could make some noise.
I have a bad feeling that McCain is going to win CA. I pray I am wrong. Again, if McCain is our nominee, I believe the only chance we conservatives have to survive in a 2 party system is to make sure McCain looses HUGE. I for one, after all of McCain’s dirty tricks, lies, nastiness, etc., will be delighted to help him go down. Bob Dole/Ford #2.
So? What? Is she pulling out of the race, or was that an underhanded reference to John Kerry’s support of Obama? This is going to be fun!!
Voted Mitt on my way home, tonight.
Also, for those here in the land of fruits, nuts and flakes, NO on 93! (CA)
The MSM thought MT was a territorial possession like Guam or American Samoa. Didn’t realize they had to project a winner.
Montanans are probably the smartest voters on Super Tuesday, judging from the results.
Romney takes a 54% to 22% lead over McCain in CO with 20% reporting.
Project already.
Better yet, NO on 93, and all the Indian Gaming Propositions. Who believes that the Indian Tribes WANT to pay more revenues to the state…something really stinks here! If they really want to give the state more money, why do they need a state law to make it official? These come with NO Guarantees!
Arizona goes to McCain….
Could someone please explain toe why people are voting for Huckabee? Christ, I feel like I am in some kind of sick David Lynch movie, and I can’t leave. None of this campaign is making ant sense at all.
The teleprompter schtick is fantastic, isn’t it? Most professional politicians at least make it look natural when they’re reading.
Hey! When does AK start reporting?
Romney takes CO. Woo hoo!
You are funny, DougT. The MSM is as much against Romney as McCain/Huckster.
Wonder why?
I really, really need to wait until tomorrow to see California’s results or I will never get to sleep.
Thanks, Michelle, and all for the postings tonight by the rest of her gang.
It ain’t over yet, even though McCain hopes it is.
RetFireman-
Most evangelicals will not (cannot) vote for a Mormon and they dislike McCain…..so that leaves them with Huckabee, which is really a vote for McCain cuz it takes a vote away from Romney.
Anyways, this is what my Christian friends (and hubby) did today…..
I voted for Thompson because he was still on our ballot in AZ…but I know that I was helping out McCain. Oh well…what’s done is done.
DougT~
Alaska is 3 hours behind Central – I have an uncle who lives up there and went up for his oldest’s wedding in 2004. It’s coming up on 8pm there, and I don’t know what time their polls will close.
I can’t wait until McCain reads:
“wait for applause”
during one of his interminable tight-jawed stump speeches.
Anyway, the gap is closing in CA. When my pals in Orange County are tallied in, this could be a Mitt state.
I’m dying to see if AK goes to Paul or not, but it’ll have to wait for the a.m.
I’m giving up fried food for Lent so I’ll be more stressed than usual come next week when our primary hits here in VA. If I’m going to go door-to-door, I’m going to need a bucket of Popeye’s to keep me upbeat.
Note to everyone: if someone has dropped out, there is no point in voting for them, except as a vote for McCain…
AK polls close at 12:30 a.m. eastern.
I can’t do it. Good night everyone.
I’m proud to say I did not vote for that fowl-tempered little troll McCain.
That’s the only way I can think of him now – a fowl-tempered little troll.
The McCainites should never have opted for those lobotomies.
err.. that should be foul.. but fowl works too I guess..
nyc123me~
Someone somewhere on here called them “McCainiacs”. I think that is somehow more appropriate…
Say goodbye to Mitt. Huck has overtaken him for second.
So anyone here ever been to Australia? I hear it’s nice, I’m thinking of checking it out come January of next year. If it’s winter here, it’s summer there, right? Boy that’ll be nice. They got socialized medicine down there?
I think I’ve had my fill of the people of this nation. The conservative movement is outnumbered, outvoted, and dead.
McCain wins California and Missouri.
A McCain win solidifies my leaving of the GOP. But I supose it more like the GOP leaving me. Buh-bye DLTDHYOTWO
mattymatt10~
You can’t legally own firearms in Australia…
My uncle (who works for big, bad oil) is being transferred Down Under for a couple of years. I’ll have to see what he has to say about it. He and his wife just went down to check out the area where they will be living.
Way too many idiots in this country. Especially my state of CA. McCain wins here. Go figure.
AMEN!
MAJOR MEGA DITTOS!!!
May God have mercy on our souls!
We’ve got snake-handlers and people speaking in tongues who fear the “cult” of Mormonism. We’ve got Jews who believe that they are God’s chosen people and he granted them a deed to Israel. We’ve got assorted Christian zealots who turn the difficult issue of Terri Schiavo into a huge, national morality play. We’ve got some Catholics who want to tear down the borders of our country for reasons they hear about at church. Needless to say, we have a growing Muslim population that includes many religiously inspired haters of America.
As a non-believer, I have mostly kept very quiet about my views and been very supportive of “Christian culture,” very angry about the “war on Christmas” and other efforts to drive Christianity from the public square.
But I am just about over the edge: Religion is a fairy tale for the sheeple! And I am fed up with all the trouble it causes. But tonight, I am especially enraged that fundamentalists morons — prisoners of their own mystical silliness — are bringing into politics their panic over Mormonism. A pox on all of you!
Hmm, well that certainly gives me pause. I don’t have one now, but I’d at least like to have the option open to me. Guess I’ll have to keep thinking and researching.
MSNBC reporting a Sr. Romney campaign official says there will be “frank discussions” at Romney HQ tomorrow and that a trip to Kansas on Friday is “in doubt”.
re: #134…frank discussion at team Romney
Mitt was very upbeat in his speech. But I thought that Ann’s face pretty well revealed the depth of her disappointment (and perhaps the end of lavish self-financing).
Wow, that’s very astute political analysis.
I’ve been considering the Caymans. Very tax friendly. And you know if Hillbilly comes into office, you can kiss another 15% of your paycheck goodbye. And that’s on top of what you already pay…
BTW, that was sarcasm.
On February 5th, 2008 at 8:05 pm, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
I really do wish you had a small clue how many people have already “tuned out”, who still care DEEPLY about our nation and what our govt is doing, but they have become so deeply burnt out from hoping for the GOP to be there for them the way Reagan was. But it just keeps spitting out Robert Doles and McCains and Kay Bailey Hutchisons, and Rick Perrys…
You cannot imagine the underbelly, if you think this GOP is simply going to reshuffle the deck and get to keep all the cards in play, after this Primary.
It’s their safety valve – since they have not yet
seriouslyallowed themselves to take any irreparable steps towards meeting the Rinos on a field of honor – knowing the Rinos and Dims put together couldn’t find one if their lives depended on it.Don’t lie to us, Huck.
We all know that McCain has promised you that if you stay in the race, he will make you his VP.
Barring some kind of miracle, that’s pretty much it – there’s no hope left for Americans, it’s all downhill from here. Watch the markets continue to fall tomorrow. Watch the dollar weaken further. Might as well pull out of Iraq now too Bush, because we’re going to be welcoming in the terrorists soon enough, so no point risking more American lives in the meantime.
The US is so screwed.
#135 & #135 – I hope not. Neither McVain nor Punkabee have the finances to last the long term. Romney does, but the games we saw played today by Punkabee (the supposed man of God – except that HE is his only god) staying in a race he cannot win have actually raised him to a level above McVain on my all out disdain list.
We have to let Ronmey know we will be there if he does not give up.
So the so called war hero and the swamp thing team up to serve themselves instead of America when neither one of them can get enough votes on their own to win in an honest vote.
I hope I am not watching the end of America, but a McCain nomination would be that. Punkabee is probably just another Clinton butt-boy.
All I can say is, if people are actually going to throw out a great person, a really excellent candidate and hand over the keys to this country to those that will surrender to our enemies, guaranteeing our defeat to Islam, guaranteeing an increase in taxes the likes of which this country has never seen, the welcoming of every last illegal alien into this country with no repercussions and the tearing down and throwing away and destruction of our borders and so many other horrible things, all over their fears of one man’s religious beliefs, which ultimately will mean exactly diddly squat when it comes to policy, proceedure or anything else once he were to become President, then they really need to go and get some mental help.
That has to be some of the weakest excuses for not electing someone I have heard of in a very long time. Such blatant bigotry…and it has played out right in front of the cameras and the press for a long time. The media has not only welcomed this hatred, but they have encouraged it. The Liberals have carried it out with excellent precision, and the Republicans themselves…well I am ashamed of them. How the Republicans have demonstrated such bigotry of his religious beliefs, an accepted Christian sect, while at the same time whining about the atttacks on Christianity themselves is bordering on the insane.
To think that I have been able to witness the implosion and meltdown of the Republican party who just 7 short years ago was sitting on top of the world, is nothing short of madness, and something that I would never have imagined before. Gone is the GOP of Reagan, and I long for the party that in 1984, as I stood on the grass of the california State Capital, having been allowed to skiop school that day in order to see Ronald Reagan stump for re-election, where after hearing him speak, kistening to the words, the emotion, the drive, the positiveness of every cell of his body…I was then and there a Republican even though my background, my environment and everything about me should have made me a screaming Liberal Democrat…and now, that GOP, that Repulican Party of when I was 16 years old, not even old enough to vote yet, in 1984, is definately gone.
They all have to convince themselves they are the heir apparent to the Reagan Legacy, but they aren’t. This day, this Not-So-Super Tuesday has done nothing but show me that the Republican Party of old, of Reagan, is dead. God save the Republican Party.
I hear you. I’ve been thinking about the Carribean as well as the “Outback.” I’ve been wanting to leave for a while. This is all just providing me a greater incentive to get the process started. I just want a place I can go where I’ll be left alone.
I totally understand your anger and frustration. That’s how I feel about atheism and “non-believers.”
This is precisely why I know that Huckleberry doesn’t study from the same Bible as Jesus breathed into.
Matthew 25, The Parable of the Ten Virgins.
Five wise virgins had their lamps, kept them trimmed and filled, and had extra oil to keep them full.
Five foolish virgins had no oil and partied on – and were later shocked when the door was slammed in their faces. Haven’t figured out to this day what happened.
They didn’t see the big deal about a little jug of Oil! or why others had to be so selfish!
Jesus told a story about a very self-important man who blew a big horn and then prayed, God, thank you than I am not a man such as that publican.
I doubt if Huckleberry ever read it, before.
So it increasingly looks like the general election will be McCain vs. Hillary. So now we’ll have an election where the base of each party doesn’t really like their candidate, but voted for them in the primary because they seemed more “electable.” And we wonder why voter turnout is so low and people are so cynical about politics?
I feel the same – tonight he just made me want to eurp as badly as McSwine and Huckleberry do.
Did you catch that tripe from Huckleberry – TWO OF US are VERY CIVILIZED to eachother ~~~~
SEZ MR. “THE MORMONS THINK SATAN AND JESUS ARE BROTHERS, DON’T THEY!”
Just flat BARFING at the whole entire lot of them.
I was there for the putdown on Gerald Ford, and for the one on Robert Dole.
I know what we all thought of the DIMS for putting HANOI JOHN out there like he didn’t even belong in PRISON (AT LEAST for the PARIS PEACE TALKS, if NOTHING (sic) else!
These two ought to be
tied in a gunny sack together– McCain and Huckleberry.Awwww shucks. now. Dang, I don’t wanna lose my salvation over THAT pair.
OUT OF SIGHT.
The Huckabee quote about smiting Romney is fake.
Reports finally came in that very advanced absentee ballots in Ca were leaning heavily to McCain – but today’s voters were leaning very heavily to Romney – so the WEE HOURS will tell the tale on California.
Well with the McCain win in California he has definitely come out on top today. Many were predicting a McCain sweep and we have witnessed just that. The fact has become that the Republican party is no longer speaking for conservatives. While McCain continues his rush we as conservatives will be expected to shut up and accept what has become of our party. When it comes down to it we will have to choose between a liberal and a liberal. There is no doubt in my mind that we are left with absolutely nothing. If McCain goes on to win the nomination every single conservative might as well stay at home. This is a situation where you are screwed no matter which way you go.
This is a huge loss for our party, for our future and for any hope for the conservative movement. Period.
We must fight on and we must not let our party fall into the hands of a liberal-independent.
#150 “This is a huge loss for our party, for our future and for any hope for the conservative movement. Period. We must fight on…”
Too late. The party is over. Elvis has left the building.
Better off starting a new party.
Sorry, but after Gerald Ford, Robert Dole, and H. Ross perot (for what he did to my family members who for some stupid reason put some hope in him????), then the nailbiters on Algore and Hanoi John, I thought I had myself under better control than this – really I did.
I am sorry. Especially if Huck really didn’t say it.
But he did say the one about the Mormons, and everyone has ignored it ever since, even though they go ON AND ON AND ON AND ON about race and gender….
And I am an evangelical Christian who wants the borders closed and I want poor Mexicans helped IN MEXICO and not have USA TAX DOLLARS RIPPED OFF in an effort to destory American families, on the paltry excuse of “TRYING” TO HELP other peoples – with “HELP” that somehow ALWAYS CRIPPLES – and this guy embarrasses the dickens out of me and all the Christians that I know.
One friend I know asked me what I thought of him, I hadn’t seen them in about 10 years, they are missionaries in Southern Mexico and South America – and he waited kindly and silently while I spewed – then apologized, and he said, it’s alright – I cannot stand the sight of him.
I am sorry if some of you guys think, “FINALLY – A CHRISTIAN IN POLITICS!”
Because I just don’t think so. He makes my skin cringe and crawl and go spastic.
Just like McCain!
The caucuses here in CO were overwhelming. We had 52 people for our precinct, 32 of whom voted for Romney in the straw poll. McCain got 10 and Huckabee 5. And when we were voting for county delegates, anyone who didn’t commit to Romney wasn’t voted for. It was a very clear message. We did have to listen to a lot of BS from a couple of candidates, ugh. We were barely able to get the straw vote in before we had to rush to pick our daughter up from dance.
My parents live in another county that obviously did not plan well for the extra people. They had 700 people crammed into a middle school cafeteria with many people giving up and not voting. My sister, in the same county, couldn’t get into the high school for the Dem caucus it was so crowded.
CO has been irrelevant for so long that people here are going nuts to count for something.
Patrick, “the McCain win” is a useless factoid. It’s not a winner take all state.
Fox News has become just another me too news outlet. Calling states and NOT explaining that they are not winner take all or how the delegates get divvied up. Shame on them. I learned more from CNN tonight than Fox.
oh and Patrick, it’s not my party. That was proved tonight.
I also would like to note that when I went to vote, the polling station was dead. I live in a heavily Marine area. Even so the last election I had to wait for a machine, not this time. In and out in under 5 minutes, even with paper ballots and cardboard voting stations. it seemed as though the Conservatives stayed home.
Toobin the tool on CNN crowing about how talk radio is washed up and Conservatives are nothing now.
Hey Rush, remember when you said that you were a talker and not news outlet owner? Maybe you should stop raking in the millions and do something constructive.
Time to become an Independent.
The only thing that could make this worse is for someone to run on a third party ticket, splitting the Republican vote, guaranteeing a Democrat victory and completing the embarassment of what is left of the Republican Party.
As the Liberals and Democrats sit in their hovels and pot farms, laughing themselves silly at the demise of our party and the rise of McCain who their media has placed in the position to win in order to fracture our party, we sit around and watch as it crumbles around us.
This could not have happened better if the Left had actually planned it out and executed it themselves. The only reason I know it wasn’t a Liberal plot is that there isn’t a Liberal alive smart enough to have thought of something like this.
Nope…it is the Republican leadership, the RNC who is to blame for this. It is the RNC who has decided that the Conservatives are no longer important, that the basic Republican values that have made us strong, that will always win every election if the candidate actually runs on them and sticks to them, is no longer good enough.
It is the RNC who capitulated to the MSM when the MSM kept saying, “Go to the middle, you have to be more Moderate” and other cockamamie nonsense. the RNC panicked and actually believed that hill-Dawg had a chance at being President, that this country would actually allow that pair of thieves and liars another shot inside the Oval Office and thus, they sunk the campaigns of every Conservative leaning candidate, sabotaging them at every turn ignoring the base, insulting the base, and generally sinking the Party, collapsing it from the inside like a house eaten away by African Termites.
It will be years before this Party recovers from this mess. God knows what it will take, or how many lioves it will ultimately cost in the long run. We know the enemy is watching this very closely, and they will be dancing in the streets, praising Allah, recruiting new murderers in the morning with the news that the weakest surrender monkeys won out. Ultimately, this is going to end up a bloodbath, both figuratively and literally over the next 12-18 months at least.
So I ask all those that voted for “the one who could best win” and not the best candidate…
When it all happens, when all is said and done, will your conscience be clear? Will you really be able to say that it was all worth it?
I’m angry that my vote for Mitt ended up counting for nothing, since NY is a WTA state. It’s completely undemocratic. My voice has not been heard, nor has the voice of millions of others because of WTA.
Aren’t there about as many delegates to be had over the next month?
Texas is March 4th and there are quite a slew between now and then.
I’m with Romney as long as he wants in it.
If the OFFICIAL anointing of the Dim GOP candidate is going to be anyone else, I’ll be ready to sit in my lawn chair and watch the timely sinking of the GOPTITANIC straight into the Marianna Trench.
With a lot of relief.
It’s very hard trying to row a listing ship. If they celebrate McCain at the convention, it is time to slide into the water and get well away, in time. And just say, Godspeed her to the bottom.
“Reports finally came in that very advanced absentee ballots in Ca were leaning heavily to McCain – but today’s voters were leaning very heavily to Romney” – wonder how many of those write ins were from questionable, or duplicitious actions – compliments of the gang of 14 seemingly glued to McCain every where he goes? As if it matters, other than more evidence of politics as usual from the ones who really need to be thrown out of Washington. They serve angendas and interests – not the people.
How anyone can believe that a 72yr old man, 25yrs in gov (and part of the Washington establisment, incl the lowest approved congress in recorded history) represents a change in Washington, that everyone (incl. the motivated Dems) is calling for? Just mind-numbing to me anyway.
I am a Roman Catholic, (returned to the fold after many years away studying other religions and beliefs) and even I could care less abbout Romney’s personal religious beliefs. I seem to remember a little Amendment that guarantees him the ability to have that belief.
Remember yhe fear and panic that peop;e had with JFK? The first Roman Catholic President? People were paranoid that he would have a Hotline to the Pope and that suddenly the White House would become nothing more than a puppet to the Papacy. Well…didn’t happen. He was too busy diddling actresses.
Who cares what Mormons believe…whether Jeus and Satan were brothers, first cousins, best friends in first grade, room mates in college who had a falling out over Mary Magdaline…seriously…is that all you had to base your decision on?
And this from people who constantly whine about those of us who call Muslims on what they are, telling us we are Islamophobic and we need to learn about them etc., etc., etc.,?
Like I said…a freaking David Lynch filmm with Bobcat Goldthwait as McCain.
AMEN, ME TOO!
And my GRITS, TOO!
Ombre Rose,
I didn’t just come to this party yesterday, Rose. I absolutely know how many eople are burnt out on the McCains and the Doles and everyone else force-fed to us by compromised socio-political structure now more than ever created by the mainstream media.
And this is a terrible night. America has had terrible nights before. We’ll have them again. But you don’t stop fighting just because you had a terrible night. Remember the line about freedom needing to be earned every day.
It’ll be a long time before this country will meet our moral and ethical needs and run on autopilot at he same time. Get ready to get dirty in the fight, Obre. It’s that or give up. But if you want to give up, then do everyone who is fighting a favor and please then stop bitching about the state of things on message boards – all message boards. It sinks morale and makes the fight harder, just like when libs tar down the soldiers in Iraq. I think that should go for every American.Considering in this instance fighting means a passionate, productive, pro-active kind of talking, I’d say that sounds fair. Right?
Suck it in, solider. This is a battle we may well be in for the rest of our lives. Get used to it – for those generations yet to come. Just as the Founding Fathers did.
Actually, that could be the best thing that could happen. The GOP is in DIRE need of reforming itself, and being a total embarassment this November just MIGHT get the Republicans back to thinking that WE MATTER.
McCain obviously doesn’t believe that we do, so I think it would behoove all of us to give Mr. McCain a “Bronx Cheer” on election day, as he loses HUGE to Hillary.
I just looked at the delegate counts on Michelle’s linked statistics page here and got the cold willies.
We are so boned!
Here in Texas, we used to be buried by those old “DIM” party machines – seems they are working smoothly in McCain and Huckabee’s favors, these days – somehow – cause the results just don’t pass the smell test.
Remind me of the days when we had to get some relatives and friends to start accepting responsibility for their more isolated and feeble ones among them in their areas, only about 20 years ago, in order to get a count that had the right “reflection” on things around the coffee tables, if you know what I mean.
I am not running across folks that folnd of those two.
I have seen some fabulous reactions to Huckabee in some Christian evangelical TEEN conventions, where he gets judged SOLELY on what HE SAYS JUST TO THEM and they don’t research or watch the news or anything but go to church and choir practice.
He said things to TEENS he has YET to say to ADULTS on TV.
I am a Christian, I’m not trying to be mean – but somedays, you ask them what they thought of such and so, they never heard of it – it didn’t happen in the aisles of their church – it does not exist.
Including the Christmas Day After Tsunami, 2004. A week later! “TOO BUSY!”
But this “POLITICIAN” showed up at their conventions “NOT SEEKING RECOGNITION” just asking them what the Lord is saying to the Church – what are the PROPHETS saying to the Church~~~~
“Wantin’ ta learn!” “Not askin’ fer NUTHIN’ fer hisself at all!!! I swear!!!~~~
but Jesus warned them, saying ye shall know them by their fruits.
And when I see a “BIG” Christian sucking up to McCAIN????????????????
Then see all his SOCIALIST policies and ILLEGAL ALIEN ENTITLEMENT AND SLAVE REPARATIONS – from MY POCKET, while dreaming up rules to BLOCK ME out…
The Bible says, you shall not move your neighbor’s boundary … nor the boundary of the widow, either!
Bless my THIEF and MURDERER, with MY property, goods, and finances?????
God doesn’t let you hurt His people and get by with it – sooner or later….
maybe not today, maybe it doesn’t seem like tomorrow, sometimes, either – but soon – harvest doesn’t tarry.
OK, so who do I talk to about a new conservative party? Something like the Constitution Party without the unrealistic neo-isolationism? I’m dead serious here. Someone who’s going to be at CPAC should bring this up there.
Last time I checked, he still didn’t have HALF what he has to have to get the nomination.
But IF he gets it, the Bronx cheer will indeed be the best thing he gets from me – if I decide to be so overwhelmingly polite to him and the GOP!
We’ll see if he is really half so electable as they keep telling us he is!
For sure.
FOR SURE!
Neo-isolationism rocks! Run Pat run!
IR~
Isolationism worked when the only way to get here was by boat and we didn’t have millions of people in other countries to the south of us. In today’s world, you can’t isolate this country. We trade with everyone, for starters. Even if we take all our toys and go home (from Iraq, Horn of Africa, Japan, Germany, Great Britain, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Korea, Italy…), the people who want to kill us all won’t stop – they’ll follow us, and with our borders being what they are, and no one in government truly taking that threat seriously, it would be far too easy for someone to sneak into the US with some kind of WMD (Pakistan & Iran scare me, and I still believe Saddam trucked his into Syria and points beyond prior to the invasion) and vaporize an American city.
It’s not over yet but it looks rather grim at this moment. Not all states were take-all but McCain won those that were. We’re looking at a up hill battle for Romney.
All I can say is Huckabee and McCain are in cahoots with one another and that may seal the deal. The Republican party has been hijacked by a moderate and a populist. At this moment the Huckabee affect is no different then if we were talking about the general election and he was a moderate. He knows he can’t win, he’s there only to benefit McCain.
I can’t believe what I am hearing! Several people are actually wanting to purposely sink the party. How can you possibly think that the complete and totasl destruction is a GOOD thing? Do you have any idea what that makes you sound like? It makes all of you sound like a bunch of spoiled rotten little six year olds who didn’t get your way. “Oh yeah? Well we’ll fix their little red wagon. We’ll show them that they need us, and that we shouldn’t be ignored”. Well, frankly what they have shown us is that they DON’T need us, and that McCain was right about that.
What we need to do is show them the errors of their ways, to show them the seriousness of this terrible mistake, not to cut off our noses to spite our faces.
Staying home or voting for the Democrat in order to destroy the country to make a point to the RNC? That is just ludicrous! I’m sorry gang, but I do not desire to see my cities turn to ash in a giant Islamic detonated mushroom cloud brought about by a Democrat in the Oval Office who surrendered to the enemy, proving to them that we are weak and cowardly, that we don’t have the cajones to stick it out just to prove a freaking point to a bunch of jackasses at the National Office that ultimately don’t give a damn.
There are far more important things at stake here than our pride and hurt feelings. I am pissed off…really pissed off at my party and at the morons in this state and others that bought into the MSM BS and McCain’s sob stories, but I am not about to sacrifice my children’s lives or future over it.
If he is the candidate in the General, as it appears he will be, you can be damn sure that I will suck it up and vote for him, because in the end, the worst Republican is still better than the best Democrat as President, ESPECIALLY in this war when we are fighting for our very survival against an enemy who has been working towards this moment in time for over 1400 years and at last have found the technology and the motivation to do what they have sworn to do since their inception.
Is your pride, your little feelings really that much more important than the life of your family, your friends and your neighbors? Have ou people really been so blinded by all this hatred of McCain and the RNC that you ahve forgotten what is really at stake with the next person to live at 1600 Pennsylvania? God I really pray you haven’t and aren’ and this is all just election night talk.
It really does look like it is going to come down to what happens at the convention, after Huckabee an Captain Happy-Pants finally leave the race. Hopefully Mitt sticks it out that long.
I don’t think there is much distinction between McCain and Hillary. If that is the selection we get to pick from how can we be sure McCain won’t be as bad? I highly doubt Hillary would lay back as we are destroyed. Now that’s ludicrous. So that leaves as at the point that McCain is not a better choice. He is a Republican but his policy decisions would be anything but.
He’s clear that he is against the Bush tax cuts, clear that he is for illegal immigration and clear that he is no better then any of the Democrats. The worse of the Republicans are not any better then the best of the Democrats. A bad candidate is a bad candidate no matter what clothing they decide to put on. Period. I will not choose “very bad” over “horrible.”
I just heard that Romney took Alaska.
Precincts Reporting – 8705 out of 23109 – 37%
KCRA 3 Sacramento calls it for McCain, 38% of precincts reporting.
Hill-Dawg wipes the floor with Obama almost 2-1
President Republican
Candidate Votes Percent Winner
John McCain 551,904 43%
Mitt Romney 358,915 28%
Mike Huckabee 150,234 12%
She will surrender and has vowed to do so. She despises the military and does not hide that. If you have done any research on her at all, you would know damn well, especially with the Clinton track record of doing NOTHING when Islam attacks this country, it’s allies or even our ships or embassies that she WON’T do squat when Islam comes calling again, especially as Iran continues their march towards a nuclear annihilation of Israel. Her words and deeds have shown all that and more.
At least that is one thing we do not have to worry about with McCain, and if you do not see the difference, then again I say. you need to research these things beyond the MSM ans sound bites and go deeper into history than 5 years.
I think if McCain is the nominee, whether pissed off conservatives sit it out or not, McCain won’t win. The press will turn on him the instant he gets the nod, and it will be all over but the cryin’. He doesn’t have the temperament to be the Leader of the Free World, and the press will make damn sure EVERYONE knows it. And my desire to see a new conservative party isn’t going to materialize between now and November.
RetFireman,
Sir!
Many many many of us have detailed CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLES that McCain and his comrads have VIOLATED without cost to themselves in ANYWAY. We’ve spent YEARS – DECADES, pleading with you… DETAILING METICULOUS DOCUMENTATIONS….
Those things have been horrendously aggregious to us, and we were raised with the idea that those who do such things will pay in a criminal court for doing them.
But McCain has not paid.
Then, just like the Clintons, Algore, and Hanoi John – not only do you who have witnessed this #*%#%##$% uncivilized and unConstitutional ATTACK by these men on our nation and on our citizens and on our troops, too, most of the time (maybe not on our troops by Algore, but not because he didn’t try – maybe he did and I just don’t happen to be aware of it, as yet – the more likely) - they do NOT get their JUST DESERTS, but worse even than THAT if p ossible – folks like YOU keep them running for the most prestigious offices of our land, until you finally run them for PRESIDENT as well!
The sheer effrontery!
And you say WE are trying to destroy the GOP?
No, WE are just walking away from the BURNING MESS you let YOUR heroes make of it.
We did everything we could to stop you within accepted bounds of decency and civilized behavior but NONE OF YOU WOULD HAVE IT to listen to what we were saying.
To now accuse US of being the destroyers of this junk pile, just because after all these years, we finally stop trying to save it and just walk away from what YOU who do not honor the Constitution are doing to this nation….
All I can say to you is that AS THE GOP TITANIC SINKS, I shall sit in my lawn chair and eat my popcorn and ENJOY THE VIEW.
Then you go over to the DIM party and do the same thing to them.
My blessings on you as you go, dear child.
We who care about this nation will sit here and decide what we might, or might not do, next – without allowing the likes of such as yourself near the premises.
You stick with your heroes – the McCains, the Kennedy’s the Hanoi Johns, the Lindsey Grahams, the Juan Hernandez and Jerry Perenchios, the Arnold Schwuarzeneggars, the Warren Rudmans and David Souters and Johnny Suttons, Mark McKennons, and Huckleberrys, Rudy Guilianis, and Newt Gingrichs and Phil Grahams and Rick Perrys and Kay Bailey Huchisons, and Fred Thompsons…
Have yourself a swell party.
I am content to let you go YOUR own way.
Just stay away from me and the direction that I go, on my own without the GOP to hold my hand for me, alone.
Thank you. From the bottom of my little bitty heart. Flowing with purple peanut butter and pink polka dots.
Popcorn anyone?
You are absolutely right Ladybug, but that still is no reason to burn down the house with the baby inside. that is essentially what people are talking about here. To do what? to teach the RNC a lesson that they don’t care about?
You want to teach them a lesson, you hit them where it counts, in the pocket book. Following November, ou cut out any and all donations for a year or two. Just stop them all together. No $25 bucks in the mail, no dinners, no buying shirts or pins or bumper stickers…NOTHING. Turn off the tap. When they send you a mailer, you send it back to them with a note written in Sharpie telling them that when they return the Party back to the people, when it returns to the Conservative fundamentals that made the GOP great, when it goes back to the beliefs of Lincoln and Reagan, then you will again donate to them. Until then, they will not see one thin dime.
THAT is how you get their attention. THAT is how things are done, and THAT is what will bring about the change that we so badly need. If you want to control our members of Congress, the Senate and God willing, the President, you have to control the flow of their cash. When it stops, they will listen.
When the Conservatives can pull a Moveon and tell the RNC that, “We bought and paid for this Party, it is ours,” then we will have succeeded. Selling out this country and the future of our children to the enemies of this Nation and destroying it will not work, and only makes you look like a whiney little cry-baby child. Be smart people, and do it the right way for God’s sake. Stop acting like a Hollywood Liberal.
Next thing you know you guys are going to start saying, “If so and so wins, I’m moving to *blank*”.
I’m glad that you have taken the time to insult me and to insinuate that I am ignorant and oblivious to facts of the past. While your blood is boiling and causing you to react the way you have I have to disagree with you wholeheartedly.
Hillary made it clear that she is not going to leave Iraq immediately. Maybe you should look into the past and watch the Democratic debate from September the 26th. Actually both Hillary and Obama understand that we must continue the fight in Iraq, not to say they will. Needless to say you’re paranoid if you think Hillary will watch us all die.
Now McCain, with his open borders policy would be as much a disaster as Hillary would be. Since your the master of history maybe you should read up on McCain and see the things he has supported. If you actually did that instead of passionately supporting a party even if you disagree with their nominee maybe we wouldn’t be having this discussion.
Your passion is admirable but it’s blind and dangerous. If we have to be loyal to a party that is not loyal to us then I don’t think I want any part of that relationship.
Utah with 99% of precincts reporting have Romney with 90%. 90%. That’s impressive.
To paraphrase our best President, “I did not leave the party, the party left me.” Principles are based on what is RIGHT, not what I want, and frankly the GOP is more interested in just winning rather than what is RIGHT. The founding fathers were not so shallow and neither are the conservatives of this nation.
The GOP keeps offering us crap for candidates because they believe we have no alternative. Well, we used to say “Better dead than red” – I miss people with that strength anymore, and I will LIVE and DIE by my principles.
The founders of our nation were not interested in parties – in fact they abhored them. They acted on PRINCIPLE – not party loyalty – the latter being the ultimate blindness. They had little chance of victory but they fought anyway, and WON. Are we only going to settle for what is convenient?
RetFireman~
Want to know how much money I’ve given to any political party/candidate in my lifetime? Ten dollars. To Fred Thompson. Many Americans don’t give to politicians or parties. Kind of hard to “hit them in the pocketbook” when you already have no impact on their pocketbook to begin with. I haven’t decided what I’ll do in November if McCain is the nominee. Principal or Pragmatism? And will it make a difference either way. But I’m still serious about a new conservative party for 2010 and beyond.
No, true!
But nevertheless, the day came when the Sons of Liberty at last and having exhausted EVERY effort and appeal, and having attended a final very very very great meeting with much pleadings from the most persuasive speakers for their cause they could search out,…
finally…
at long last, late one evening they concluded,
This [meeting] can do nothing more. Nothing more can be done to save the union.
And they sent out the Word – drew the gavel and dismissed the meeting, and all went home.
And they prepared themselves and waited.
A season of their lives was over. Forever.
That is what seasons do. They come, to pass.
We could not save the election for McCain if we had any desire to.
you should have seen what I went through the last two elections trying to get others who refuse to even participate in the conversations anymore, I tried to drag them to vote against Algore and Hanoi John – TO NO AVAIL.
Those who see the reaction we have to man without character they insist on trying to foist upon us, and go to such extreme lengths to foist him proudly upon us anyway – you can never save such from themselves.
I watched a movie once where Shelly Winters played the mamma of a young young girl who got herself involved with some piece of trash – I think it was the bio of “The Son of Sam”???
At the end, the judge convicted the girl, without the bat of an eye – all she had cared about during her entire trial was that her mother get all the money she could get – they needed it for utility bills, medicines, lawyer fees – she wanted a pretty dress to wear for the two minutes she would see “HIM” while on the stand – she demanded a floosey’s dress and looked like the brainless twit she was.
When the judge got through with her, he turned on Shelley Winters and told her off like we would like to see one tear into Toady Chappaquiddick Kennedy and Hanoi John, for a change – and it turned out to be the real trial transcript.
There comes a time when all you can do cannot save some folks FROM THEMSELVES, and they will still turn on you and act like they are not surprised you didn’t save them THIS TIME – because you never ever ever did anything for them in your entire SELFISH life! EVER.
**********************
I don’t think it is over yet, and my own primary is about a month away – and McSwine hasn’t got half his necessaries, yet.
We do need to hand in and wait and see — see, Romney took ALASKA, tonight, too! I know not a lot of delegates – but the folks are trying.
But in the Convention, when the Fat Lady sings, as Dan Cook used to say….
If the GOP is flyin’ with the turkeys, I’m watching from the lawn chair by the bar-b-que pit.
Rose,
Ma’am,
You make it sound like I am a McCain supporter. I can’t stand the little jerk. But I’ll be damned if I am going to turn over this country by action or inaction to the Clintons…again… or to Obama and have the sacrifice of the 3000+ and all the rest be for absolutely nothing, have this country turn tail and run in the face of victory and show the enemy that if they just hold out long enough, they can eventually win and bring down the world’s last Super Power.
I refuse to allow the Democrats to destroy the country with their “Universal Healthcare”, fir as a medical professional, I can tell you right now everything that would be wrong with that in no uncertain terms. I refuse to move towards Socialism in any way, shape, or form, and by either voting for a Democrat…either one of them, or staying home, i would be doing just that. My conscience would NOT be clean. By my actions or inactions i would be lending aid to the destruction of this country by putting Socialism into the White House. I would be allowing defeatists, treasonist horrible people to be running two of the branches of Government, and my conscience can’t do that.
So while all this “Bravado” talk of yours, of sitting in your lawn chair, eating popcorn while you sell out your country to the enemy sounds splendid, you are doing just that…selling out your country and are being no different that what they were the last two elections when dealing with Bush.
I know all about McCain and his cronies. Maybe you didn’t read anything I have written about how I have watched him VERY closely, especially the last 8 years. Maybe you didn’t see the part about how glad I was for the bullet we dodged back in 2000. But this is no bullet. The stakes are far greater.
Enjoy your popcorn. Enjoy your lawn chair. Remember those days. I can promise you this…and mark these words…should the Dems win, and we turn tail and run out of iraq and Afghanistan…you can be guaranteed that 9-11 is going to be a fireworks display in comparisson. Just ask anyone else who has had the same training.
Ladybug, if the Republican part nominates a liberal like McCain what else is there to for conservatives to do but move on? I agree 100%, it’s a rash move but if the abandon us why stick around? Why hand them our votes in the hope that McCain doesn’t lampoon the party for “diplomacy. We can not accept McCain and we cannot accept defeat. McCain is a defeat no matter if he wins or loses.