Temperature check
I’ll be on Fox in a few minutes to talk about the Super Tuesday results and the GOP with Linda Chavez, who argues that John McCain is the “ghost of Ronald Reagan.”
I can think of a lot of words. “Ghost” is not the first that comes to mind.
Anyway, how are you all feeling this morning? Consider this a “safe space” (to borrow the P.C. campus term) to vent without being accused of suffering derangement syndrome, dyspepsia, or other maladies.
And here’s a bit of Mark Levin to chew on.
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Update 11:40am Eastern. Segment’s over. There was no time to rebut Linda Chavez and Jon Scott. So I’ll say it here:
To call a GOP candidate who sneers at profits and denigrates businessmen and greedy corporations and crusades for a liberal, global warming agenda the best Reaganite heir is simply self-delusional.
To cite Reagan’s illegal alien amnesty, without noting that he stated firmly that a nation without borders is not a nation, is disingenuous.
And to omit the fact that John McCain has a Hispanic outreach staffer who believes in “Mexico First” and the eradication of our borders–not to mention a national campaign finance co-chair who poured billions to fight against English instruction in the public schools–is dishonest.
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I apologize to all the women that I did’nt call back after a night of fun and frolicking, now I know how they felt.
I’ve been waiting by the phone for the Republican Party to call me and explain to me what happened last night and they still have not called.
Let’s face it: McCain is the Bob Dole of 2008. He has all of the popular appeal as a dose of VD, with only 1/10th the momentum. If he renamed his bus “The Constipation Express” he’d give a far better impression of both the velocity he’s getting from even moderate Conservatives (zero), as well as the content of his platform (ca-ca).
But, guys, let’s face it: he’s not a RINO. If the RNC allows this quasi-socialist to carry the banner in November, then that’s what the RNC has become. It’s not “in name only,” it’s “De Facto.”
My renewal notice for the GOP came in the mail the other day. I threw it straight in the trash.
While the prospect of having McCain as the Republican nominee indicates a sad state of affairs in the Party, I do take solace in the fact that if McCain is willing to fight so dirty against his own fellow running-mates, I can only imagine how mean, vicious, and vindictive he’ll be on the campaign trail against Hillary or Obama. It will at least make for entertaining television as his chances of winning swirl further and further down the toilet bowl of the electoral process.
What is the point in holding my nose and voting for McCain?? I don’t think he can win against either Dem candidate. If Clinton gets the nomination, she’ll have the ‘machine’. If it’s Obama, he’ll have the youthful, newbie, ‘time for a change’ mantra against a 70+ year old, been in the Senate forever, grouch.
I’ll have to think long and hard about putting myself through the pain of actually voting for him.
Exactly how I feel.
I have 2 questions. Please respond if the question is appropriate to your vote last night.
Why did you vote for Huckabee?
Why did you vote for McCain?
Like many of you, I was part of the “massive volunteer effort” that got GWB elected twice. And I still think fondly of him, but where were the battles? Why did he always start by sticking it to the people that supported him before turning to fight his political enemies? He knew they’d turn tail and run. How do not want to take on Ted Kennedy?
The Bully Pulpit, talk radio, and the blogosphere is bigger than the New York Times. Why don’t they know it yet??
John McCain is simply not on our side. He wants their approval, and if he’ll tear off the black & white meaning of the First Amendment to get it, he’ll do anything.
I have great faith that this country will survive any of the incompetent, untested, intellectually wrong or morally bankrupt weaklings that are running.
I hope that when the next term is over enough people will be sick of these nanny-staters and “government is the solution” fools that someone with Big Brass Ones will stand up to lead us back to our birthright of personal freedom.
By the way - MM - looking good on FOX. They cut you way to short.
While I appreciate your views…I think you’re wrong, and here’s why–
he would put our uniformed service members on the same legal and moral footing as jihadist pirates
he would bring those jihadist pirates to U.S. soil, and provide them the status of criminal defendants or inmates (which will mean their buds will be following along soon, bringing the fight here)
he would prevent the use of “harsh treatment” of jihadist pirates to extract life-saving information, and expand the definition of “torture” to include treatment that every suspected criminal in police custody in the U.S. is LIKELY to face (they get beaten, but not waterboarded)
he will weaken our ability to fight the Chinese, jihadists, or the Girl Scouts by weakening our economy in the cause of the cult of global warming, pursuit of his anti-market leanings, and his populist urges–he might have the will, but he will cut of his own…uh…ability (and that of his successor, too)
he will fail to protect our territory from invasion by the more-or-less passive army from the south (that includes ALL the south, not just Mexico)
he will fail to protect our territory from jihadists who take the simple expedient of walking across our borders with damn near anything they can carry, bringing the war to us
#110:
Well said.
… below lyrics from Rolling Stones “Salt of the Earth” …. this about sums it up for me, particularly the drinking part!
Raise your glass to the hard working people
Let’s drink to the uncounted heads
Let’s think of the wavering millions
Who need leaders but get gamblers instead
Spare a thought for the stay-at-home voter
Empty eyes gaze at strange beauty shows
And a parade of the gray suited grafters
A choice of cancer or polio
RobM1981,
I agree, the Republican Party is no longer the party of conservatives. Thanks mainly to the efforts of Rove and Bush, don’t forget his “new tone in Washington”…mite as well have been “go left young man go left”.
Only hope i see for the future of America is that we conservatives keep up the morals and values of the traditional republicans and vote for the strongest conservatives on the rest of out ballot. Since it appears we’re headed for a liberal president no matter the party, we need to balance government with a strong conservative congress. Saved our butts in ‘96 with Bubba.
How feasible is it that the actual conservatives will be able to advance in a party that has been overrun by moderates and dare I say… even some left-leaning leaders? If you get elected within a certain party, you will still have to toe the party line at least to an extent to get anywhere within that party. If that is what the republican party is coming to now, how long will it be before the “Conservatives Need Not Apply” signs get hung on the GOP doors as well?
Too bad that Newt Gingrich is a Global Warming Alarmist Follower now. It is just like there is not a single Reagan out there anywhere. Huckabee the Clinton Lite with valuable social values. McCain the Kennedy lite who outside of a couple items is a split personality liberal/conservative. He thinks he is a conservative, which is just plain delusional, and his brain works like a liberal that beleives that feelings are superior to facts. Thern there was Thompson who seemed to be a great conservative, but did not put his heart into it until after the first three primary/caucuses. I wouldhave supported Rudy, even though I do not like his moral values positions, I can respect them because he does not think that his moral values should be set in legislation, which is how it should be. Then finally there is Mitt Romney, who I can support as easily as I could have Rudy or Thompson, and his only real sin is that he did not defend himself solidly early on about his real record. he allowed all the things he said campaigning for Governor in one of the most liberal states in the union and did not start proving that his actual gobanatorial record once in office was significantly different than his campaigning would have led a person to beleive. I fell for all the talk about his position on abortion and all the other things because I did not hear any rebuttals.
I will not vote for McCain. I will not donate to the Republican party if McCain is the nominee.
Much has been made of the Reagan amnesty by open borders America annihilator.
The truth is Reagan made a deal, 1.5 million (estimated, turned out to be 3 million) would receive a one time amnesty and illegal immigration would forever cease.
12 million=24 million.
Of course the lawmakers that made the deal with President Reagan had no intention of honoring that commitment and just as quickly gutted any chance for enforcement.
These are the people we’ve been dealing with all these years including the GOP candidate that leads right now.
If he’s had no problem with a Reagan plus a fifty state betrayal for the last twenty some odd years, his promises today aren’t worth spit either.
DrT, you comment is offensive.
This is why Conservatives are being blown out of politics. We have adopted the attitudes of the left.
“you din’t vote black, you’re a bigot”
“you are a Conservative, you’re a racist/warmonger/hater.”
“you didn’t vote for a Mormon, you hate filled racist homophobe pond scum”
Did it ever occur to that some of us have a problem with a religion founded by a conman who claimed to read the “Book of Mormon” with “magic glasses”? Is it too much to ask for you to NOT assume the liberal position when you look at how someone votes?
Not all of us vote for the one we think can win, we usually vote for those we feel comfortable with. That is NOT bigotry. Thinking it is bigotry, IS bigotry.
As disappointed as I am in McCain, there really wasn’t much else going on this cycle. Where was Gilmore? Where were the true conservatives? I hate to say it, but “our team” deserves as much blame for sitting this one out as McCain does for being RiNOish.
I don’t like McCain. But that’s ok. Because you can be sure that the Democrats are going to come in with their lies, and their smears, and their typical antics. And they’re going to piss me off to the point where I end up backing McCain out of pure disgust.
We can always count on the Democrats not to know when to shut up and let us defeat ourselves.
You are absolutely right, Izuko.
Gabe you are totally wrong.
Wondering about something does not mean you agree. That is really a stretch.
Once again I point out that Conservatives are talking/acting like liberals. Using poor to no logic.
When Reagan went along with that, he was promised much and none of it materialized. Just as Bob Dole — supporter of John “Amnesty First” McCain — promised Reagan he would cut spending in exchange for tax increases. Instead he helped liberals — reached out to the other side — and went spending crazy.
Looks like it’s about time to abandon the presidential campaign as hopeless and work hard at providing whichever liberal gets elected a conservative Congress. It’s still theoretically possible for Romney to pull off a upset, but the odds are very slim. At the very least, we have to ensure that we can still filibuster the really bad bills in the years to come.
Whatever you do, don’t stay home on election day - feel free to leave the presidential slot blank (or write in Thompson ;-), but vote for conservative candidates in the Congressional, state and local elections further down the ticket.
Gee, Mark…
Billy Boy Clinton was a good Southern Baptist…with not a speck of morality. But you could vote for him because he was not a Mormon?
Alternatively, Romney is going away a straight-arrow, Boy Scout, family-values living and breathing guy who you won’t vote for because of your very warped image of his theology.
Sounds just like bigotry to me…
Sometimes you a Jimmy Carter to get to pave the way for a Ronald Reagan. I’m sure we’ll be fine after four years of Hillary. The good thing is that this frees up my schedule for the rest of the year. Just need to figure out which third-party candidate to vote for in November. I’m just glad it’s finally over.
Michelle, thanks for the safe space.
Maybe the GOP is trying to get rid of us old Reagan-style Conservatives. It sure seems like we are on the outside - especially with the results so far.
It happened in Europe, there are very few true Conservatives left there; including Germany. Maybe that’s where we’re heading. Seems that everyone wants someone to take care of them.
I’m pushing 60, maybe I vote for Hillary for the Healthcare - its costing me a small fortune now.
I’m tired of thanking McCain for his service; he’s been paid back in spades.
I know its not over, but just the same -That’s my vent.
Mark. I am not Christian (or follow any religion). I am vegetarian also. But I will vote for a Christian and a meat eater, because that really has nothing to do with politics.
But my beliefs on politics are fundamentally conservative and I am on this site, because of how impressed I have been with Michele since I have seen her on Fox.
Focus on the politics of Romney and not the religion.
How am I Michelle? I’m very frustratrated….at the American public for being so stupid and uninformed about McCain. It will get even worse if Rush, Laura, Sean, or you cave and decide to vote for McCain as a vote against Hillary or Obama. I listened to a part of Rush today and came away with an oozie feeling that Rush could cave. That would be a major disappointment if any of you core conservative leaders give up on your principles.
LOL….thank you, Michelle.
Your levity is just what I needed today.
If Romney were to be the Republican candidate for Pres - I think the media would harp on the entire Mormon issue just to make sure he didn’t get the evangelical vote. They’d play up the religion of the Dem candidate and put it up against Romney’s Mormonism. Thus, I don’t think Romney could actually win in Nov - even if he is better than McCain. (For the record, I’m a Christian and I voted Romney in my home state)
So what is scarier? Another Clinton in office makes me ill.
No matter who gets the election for Pres in Nov - I think the key is to look at the Senate and Congress and vote hard to put it back into the hands of the Republicans so that if a Dem is in office that person has a heck of a fight over his/her own agendas.
I can accept that a man might be pro-abortion for awhile, and then become pro-life. I can’t accept that easily, but it *does* happen.
When he is pro-abortion during his campaign and tenure as governor of Ultra-Lib Massachusetts? That’s suspicious.
When he’s a MORMON, and he supports abortion, something is very much wrong. I’m not a mormon, but I can google as good as the next man: Mormons are supposed to oppose abortion as firmly as catholics or Christians do. There is no middle ground.
So we have a man who at once claims to be strong in his faith, while simultaneously being a heretic.
Hey, we all sin - but when you do it from the State House, and it smells strongly of trading your ethics for votes… well, that’s a bit more offensive.
But, if he stayed that way and entered the race for POTUS like Giuliani did - a heretical mormon to Giuliani’s heretical catholic, I could deal with it. I wouldn’t vote for him since I’m pro-life, but I could respect him his opinion.
The trouble is that his already strange opinion - a mormon abortion supporter - changed *just* as he decided that he wanted to be POTUS and he will no longer run for any MA office.
Sorry. I can only spot someone so-many “coincidences.” There’s a name for someone who flip-flops like that:
It’s called Liar.
Gang, the ugly truth is that there’s not a candidate running that’s worthy of a true Conservative’s vote.
We tried electing a liar twice. After JFK beat him he got in and caused damage that we are still recovering from.
No, gang. This year it’s time to sit this one out. Go to the polls to register that you were there, but either Kamikaze the demoncrat in, or cast a no-vote. We do *not* want the coming disaster to be affiliated with Conservatism.
When Reagan was President people weren’t blowing us up and cutting our heads off. Linda, times have changed!
And there are many in this country who would like to continue taking advantage of the illegal immigrants by paying them substandard wages. What completely amazes me is that the bleeding hearts are the ones who support taking advantage of cheap Mexican labor. Why are the liberals always able to have it both ways? On that matter, how can you say you are for women’s rights and be against freeing the women of Afghanistan and Iraq and for abortion when half of those aborted are women???????
In my opinion the 2 oldest professions are prostitution and politics …
other than different names there are a lot of similarities between the 2 …
Lebanon 1983
Or have they?
Mytake,
spot on, but not surprising. Ann Coulter has been pointing this kind of thing out for years.
Here’s another fun tidbit about the dems:
Black voters are voting hugely for Obama.
Young voters are siding heavily with Obama.
White women are voting heavily for Hillary.
Now I thought that the demoncrats were color blind, age blind, gender blind, etc. No?
DesertLover said:
Channeling the Great Ronaldus?
“Politics is supposed to be the second oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.”
-Ronald Reagan
yep … thought that was the case … just couldn’t remember an exact quote so didn’t want to claim a source …
I’m with you, MisterP. the first time I saw Michele on Fox, I thought, here is
someone that thinks like I do and has the platform to speak about these things.
I have followed her career ever since. I enjoy her threads because they make me
think and that is something I truly enjoy doing. My favorite quote is:The art of
thinking is deep, complex and beautiful but easy, it ain’t. I don’t know who the
author is.
The Great American People….
… are gullible idiots.
[rant mode]
Sometimes I almost think the Dems might even be right that most people can’t be trusted to make their own decisions.
42% of the voters in CA voted yes on Proposition 91 for which the “Pro” argument stated “This issue was fixed by another Prop last year and this one is no longer necessary, Please vote No.”
Why do we allow people to vote without the slightest test for simple reading comprehension, or cognitive logic?
We have a boob-tube electorate, too enamored with whatever celebrity talking head tells us is good to do any research on an issue, let alone think critically about long-term consequences.
How else do we explain a Proposition S in Los Angeles raising telecom taxes by 9% that passed with a 60% “yes” rate? Because the Mayor came on TV, smiled, and lied through his teeth that this was a “tax reduction” … conveniently forgetting to mention that the 10% tax he had been collecting was ruled illegall over two years prior (not that he stopped collecting it) and that the new terms expanded the scope of the tax. Then newly appointed Police and Fire chiefs are sent on the airwaves, to cry about how essential services would be cut unless we approved this tax reduction, ignoring Council members $170k+ salaries and the 22,000 civil servants who just received obscene pay raises in December.
Does the Great American Electorate rise to the challenge? Demand back pay of the past embezzlement? Demand that NON-essential services face the chopping block? No, the simplistic cro-magnons just read “ooh! tax cut good!” and that is the full extent of the intellectual exercise.
I am told now that John McCain is the candidate of inevitability. Shut up and support him. Except, I was told the same thing about Hillary Clinton last year. Since when is it only right to vote for principles when those principles are likely to be popular?? WTF kind of principles are those??
The mantra is the same… we must pay attention to ancient history and ignore recent events. We must applaud McCain’s ancient service, and ignore his recent treachery. We must castigate Romney’s ancient transgression, and ignore his recent epiphanies.
I’ve got news for all the gullible idiots out there telling us to shut up and back McCain because he’s a liberal now and Romney USED to be a liberal: recent behavior is a far better guage of the imminent future than indicators from ancient history. Unless you want to argue that David Horowitz is still a Marxist.
[/rant mode]
Khyris, We have a condition in TX that rears its ugly head every now and then. We can have propositions on the ballot that are worded in such a way that, if you are for the prop, vote no. If you are against the
prop, vote yes. Several years ago there was a real stink because this
happened and no one was alerted to it. Those of us that read, realized
what happened when we read the props in the paper before the election. We tried to alert as many voters as possible but didn’t get to
enough. The newspaper did not explain what had happened until after
the election and people were furious when they found out they had been duped. This was when Ma Richards was governor. It does recur, but not as often and if people listen and read they are warned.
However, people have not been very literate for quite a few years now.
Self-delusional, yes, but it sounds more like an old Soviet style propaganda campaign to me.
Yes, cpodug (#7). That is just another reason, on top of a host of others, not to vote for McCain.
Ronald Reagan had so many great statements worthy or quotation. But, one of my all-time favorites is…
“You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children’s children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done.”
or should be “of”. Danged typos. Too late for any caffeine this late at night, if I want to sleep.
These non-stop tiresome reminders by the McCainiacs of the senator’s military service are starting to remind me of the ChuckNorrisFacts site. They really shouldn’t hold back. The great senator is capable of so much more: Here are but a few examples:
* John McCain counted to infinity - twice.
* When John McCain does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.
* John McCain is so fast, he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.
* John McCain can lead a horse to water AND make it drink.
* John McCain doesn’t wear a watch, HE decides what time it is.
* John McCain can slam a revolving door. (I bet he at least tried that one.)
That does sound like a McCain personality trait.
THANKS, ALL THE SAME! Hey, it hasn’t been the cake walk they’d like to portray - and it certainly ain’t the DONE DEAL!
I saw a lady a few days ago from Colorado who almost stayed home, but she went, and she voted Romney, too.
I’m from Texas, and I will do my small part, on March 4.
BTW, we have tons of Texas REPUGS trying to tell us we have to get with the program because we want to “WIN, NATIONALLY”!!! [brainless twits! This is TEXAS, not Valley Girls! You can't win anything of value by trashing THE ALAMO to get there! Juan Henandez Jerry Perenchio McSanta Anna]
Today I sent dozens, literally, of my closest relatives the Ronald Reagan CPAC 1975 transcript in an e-mail.
We’ll see what kind of nibbles I get back and how much information I can then pack in behind it!
hehehehe
What I wanna know is how many of those HUCKABEE SUPPORTERS he has been busy telling he’ll fight tooth and toenail to get ROE V WADE overturned and get a marriage protection amendment and an anti-abortion amendment passed, ONLY TO SELL THEIR VOTES OUT TO McBACKSTABBER.
Huckleberry has spent tons of time the last few years going to Christian TENN missions outreach conventions like “The Call” laying the groundwork for his ANTI-ABORTION campaign -”wanting to know what thah Lord is saying to the people”.
What a typical user/sellout Socialist.
On February 6th, 2008 at 9:06 pm, beenthere said:
Da##, I love that!!!! LOL!
ROTFLTHH!!!
Whatever on this green earth would I eschew McCain to vote for one of HIS BEST BUTT BUDDIES, with most of the same identical ideas - McCain’s 2000 Presidential campaign manager, co-author - some say PRIMARY - of the McCain Feingold bill, CHAIR of the SENATE COMMITTEE to investigate the CHINESE DONATIONS to the Clintons’ campaign funds - a felony - WHICH HE WAS PROUDLY SUCCESSFUL IN DIVERTING to a tit-for-tat shambles dedicated to exscoriating goodie-2-shoes GOP, INSTEAD - AS A FORMER WATERGATE PROSECUTOR,
etc etc etc etc
Also determined to not undermine SETTLED LAW ROE V WADE
OR TO ALLOW A MARRIAGE PROTECTION AMENDMENT
OR AN ANTI-ABORTION AMENDMENT,
He led an unsuccessful effort in 2000 to derail Aimee’s Law, which required states to keep rapists, murderers and molesters in prison for at least 85 percent of their sentences or pay a penalty if they committed the same crime elsewhere. Thompson argued that the measure was unfair to states. His colleagues disagreed, voting 90 to 5 to approve it.
Aren’t Republicans supposed to be the party that is fed up with slap on the wrist punishments for violent criminals????
Someone needed to send a memo to Fred!
I.I., the vote he cast that Bill Clinton was “NOT GUILTY of PERJURY” in the case of the deposition he gave live on international TV before world leaders, and this year, on June 5, 2007, called the charge irrelevant AND NOT PASSING THE MUSTER OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS. It was NOT about S-E-X - it was about ABUSING WOMEN adn their political power, to get away with it!
This stance (SLANDEROUS TO OUR FOUNDING FATHERS) was refuted MINUTES LATER on the SAME PROGRAM by Ann Coulter, and again in her next column, in which SHE CITED CASE HISTORIES to disprove his arrogant blubbering LIES and SLANDER of our Founding Fathers.
Voted with the DEMOCRATS while showing international leaders the meaning of American Justice - ALL the Supreme Court unanimously refused to attend the next Clinton “State of the Union” Speech.
June 5th, 2007, Fred called that perjury a “TRIVIAL MATTER”.
- IS ALSO, LIKE McCAIN, FOR GLOBAL WARMING LAWS
Voted against torte reform because of “Federalism”
That is a lot like voting NOT GUILTY of PERJURY due to PRESIDENTIAL PRIVILEGE, isn’t it???
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Phil Harris, Ann Coulter, Bill Glover, George Will, James Bopp, Jr., John Solomon, etc etc etc…..
If you can swallow McCain’s friends, doing the same activities as he does, why are you having a problem with McCain, himself???
If Romney goes down, then in November, I will vote for a CONSERVATIVE as a write-in candidate.
There is only one thing that gets me to vote McCain over Clinton or Obama - to prevent Democrat/Liberal gloating.
McCain might be a RINO, but it’s enough to give the Left hissyfits.