Fred Thompson says fall in line
As expected, Fred Thompson has endorsed his friend John McCain. He’s telling conservatives to fall in line.
Fred Thompson, the one-time Republican presidential candidate, endorsed Sen. John McCain Friday, calling on the party to “close ranks” behind the presumed nominee.
“This is no longer about past preferences or differences. It is about what is best for our country and for me that means that Republican should close ranks behind John McCain,” Thompson said in a statement reported by the Associated Press.
Thompson’s endorsement was expected. The two men were colleagues for years in the Senate and shared what associates called a friendship.
President Bush is also singing the “close ranks” tune.
Sorry, I’m not ready yet to submit just yet.
Endorsements are all well and good, but personnel is policy. And McCain has done nothing to disassociate himself from anti-conservative, pro-border obliterationists. Less talk. More action.
See-Dubya astutely notes:
Conservatives’ one card left to play is whether we endorse McCain or not. Why should we show it now? If all conservatives declare unanimously against him, pledging undying hostility and staking our reputations on opposing the guy, well, he may decide (as we did with him when he and his partisans like Lindsey Graham and Juan Hernandez fumed about us) that we mean what we say.
Likewise, if we all fall into line, even grudgingly, well, we’re taken for granted…But if we keep our cards close to our chest, McCain still has to work for our vote. He can’t take us for granted and he dare not alienate us any more…
…Just to clarify, I’m not telling you whether to vote for him or not. I see the arguments on both sides. My point is that whether you wouldn’t vote for McCain if he was the last Republican on earth, or if you’ll probably just pinch your nose and pull the handle anyway, or whether you’re genuinely undecided, it’s in the interest of conservatives everywhere to act as if you could possibly be won over by credible and verifiable movement to the right on McCain’s part…Oh, and when pollsters ask you who you’re voting for, tell them you’re undecided.
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Michelle, this is so depressing because all of these republicans are saying “throw away your principles” to win this race. i get it. i get this election is important for national survival - we can not afford a Jimmy Carter at this time. but…honestly….McCain? we can’t do better?
i’m still on the fence as to whether i’ll vote for McCain or stay home. but this is truly a sad state of affairs for the republican party no matter the outcome in Nov.
God help us.
As much as I like Fred, he bailed, didn’t give 100%, and bailed…
Real leaders don’t bail (nor do they back weasels like McCain)
Ummm…
Go back to Hollywood now.
This is a must read for all…
but it is one of the best rebuttals against those who try to make this a dispute about “reasoned differences of opinion”….
or, as some on other threads have said, because McCain is a moderate.
My opposition is not about policy differences ALONE (though those are extremely important). My opposition to supporting McCain more strongly derives from his deep character flaws and his apparent duplicity.
The man is a liar. Please do not forget that.
The man casts his CONSERVATIVE grass-roots opponents, who object to his BIG GOVERNMENT, Constitution shredding ideas, as evil, cretinous, bigoted, corrupt, etc.
Those are terms and attitudes he NEVER shows against “his friends across the isle”.
For Thompson or Romney to tell voters to support McCain is only for them to follow the script…the party line. It is mandatory for a former opponent.
It is not mandatory for me, as a thinking conservative, to “fall in line”.
I cannot and will not support McCain, OR they process that gave us this grotesque result in these primaries.
I will support all good people on the ballot, come election day.
It’s nice to hear from you Michelle.
This is the same Fred Thompson who managed McCain’s 2000 campaign for President.
Same one who co-wrote McCain Feingold - more input into it than McCain - responsible for the ISSUES ADS portions.
Same Fred who was put in charge of Senate Committee investigating Clinton Campaign contributions from the CHINESE GOVERNMENT - and successfully DIVERTED IT so NOTHING WAS DONE.
Same Fred who was appointed to that Senate Committee because it was felt his work as WATERGATE PROSECUTOR would lend CREDIBILITY to the committee.
Same Fred who voted NOT GUILTY to Bill WORLD DISPLAY of PERJURY in a PERSONAL INJURY LAWSUIT.
Same Fred who said on June 5, 2007, THAT PERJURY IS A TRIVIAL MATTER, and in the eyes of our FOUNDING FATHERS that that perjury IS A TRIVIAL MATTER.
Same Fred who was one of 4 GOP SENATORS who voted NOT GUILTY - and saved Clinton’s bacon while destroying fellow GOP Representatives careers, and slapped down the the idea of ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE LAW in HIGH OFFICE.
SAME FRED who is responsible for both Clintons NOT BEING IN JAIL on FEDERAL CHARGES, but instead are now running for office BECAUSE HE SAVED THEIR LEGAL BACON SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIMES in late ’90’s.
SAME FRED who tried to knock down that law that says those convicted of violent crimes have to stay in jail at least a minimum amount of their sentences.
Same Fred who fought TORTE Reform.
Same Fred who fought a MARRIAGE PROTECTION amendment
That Fred Thompson can KISS MY GRITS!!!
Well, not surprising that we are getting the Imam-like decrees to fall into line.
What our party “leaders” seem to forget is that they are our representatives. They represent our interests and concerns in lieu of us being in Washington.
As representatives, they are no man’s better, but every man’s voice.
They seem to have forgotten that a long time ago.
Don’t stay home, but don’t vote McCain. Don’t vote demoncrap Clinton or Obama either. Write in the person you think represents your conservative ideals. I know this sounds like a throw away, but my thinking is this; Conservatives have the BIGGEST voting turnout ever, but refusing to vote for the liberal screw offered to us by the GOP. Wouldn’t that get the message across? Just an idea.
I keep hearing Rush and Sean say that we just have policy differences, and that our objection to McCain is “not personal”. McCain essentially called me a racist for opposing shamnesty, so for me it is personal.
Someone should ask McCain if its racist when Mexico enforces its borders? Is it racists when 99 percent of the worlds nations enforces its borders except the USA? Someone should ask these open borders people.
MCCain gave a good speech at CPAC, and appeared to be willing to listen to conservatives and modify his positions to the extent they were supported by the facts. Fair enough.
There has been no movement since his speech. And the more time that passes, the more it will appear that the “outreach” to unite the party consisted solely of showing up at CPAC. Perhaps McCain is relying on the party shepherds to drive the flock into the McCain pasture.
Granted, it has been only a few days since his speech. But, if this were a high priority matter, a matter which we were told at CPAC McCain viewed as his duty, one would think that there would be some sense or urgency behind it.
Those of us willing to listen and take a wait and see approach appear to be destined to more waiting than seeing.
So disappointing, but inevitable I guess.
I refuse to vote for McCain. I will stand strong for America and will not capitulate.
I watched both CNN and FOX last night one channel had on a staunch conservative CNN saying it we need to give Conservatives another option to John McCain. Then I switch over to FOX and they are talking about appeasing the Conservative Base, with a Conservative VP pick - I call that trying to patch something together. Disarray anyone? I heard a McCain Presidency being discribed as A Bush third term. So no momentum to move forward - status quo. It is 2008 and this is the shape our country is in.
Fred…..I want my money back!
Well sure Fred would say that he still has a day job:) I don’t think he is going to be replaced by illegal day labors!
I listened carefully to McCain’s CPAC speech. He said the right words, made the right promises.
You have to look at what he has done.
You have to look at who he surrounds himself with.
You have to look at who he has allied with throughout his career.
You have to look at his character, and how he actually treats conservatives when they oppose him.
You have to remember…the man is a liar.
You have to remember his taste for tyranny.
You have to remember his disdain for the Constitution, and his acts to weaken it.
Dealing with the reality of the man…taking into account the whole sweep of what we know about him…how can we cast a vote FOR this man?
I know I cannot.
If I was a professional Republican politician, I would say the same thing. I’m not, so I say the Republican Party can take a hike.
I’ll fall in line when the Republican party falls in line. …and many more of us are smart enough to tell the difference between saying one thing and doing another after 8 years of Bush.
Is Juan Hernandez still hanging around the McCain campaign? Actions speak louder than words.
Timing is everything folks.
Fred didn’t bow out and then immediately endorse anyone. We just watched him wait until other pathetic events made Juan McCain the inevitable nominee. If we want to make our voices heard to bring McCain into line let us NOT choose a subtle approach in merely holding back our support…we must get back on the phone and email his office/campaign to make ourselves unmistakably clear. Let him know we will not put up with anymore of his pathetic games. He’s not in charge of us, we are in charge of him…let him know it!
I won’t fall in line. I just will not. I can’t even hold my nose and vote for him. I don’t care if Mitt asks me to fall in line. How about…why can’t…John McCain fall in line? I certainly don’t need him. He needs me. He can say something like “I realise we can’t agree on everything so I pledge to veto any bill that comes to my desk that would legalize any person that entered this country unlawfully.” That would be a good start. That’s not going to happen and I won’t fall in line.
I’m a hold-my-nose-and-pull-the-lever guy. I dont like it, but I have no real choice - the alternative is a Communist or a Marxist. At least with McCain we may have a chance to win the war. I know he doesnt like conservatives - he’s made that pretty plain.
The thing of it is, is there enough unity among conservatives to bring McCain in line? I’d like nothing better. It seems to me the politicians take people for granted and therefore have no real accountability. I dont WANT to have to hold my nose, I want a real conservative.
#18 and #19 and anyone else:
Here is the contact section of mccain’s website, I sent him a note, and I’ll do so again, be polite:
http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact/
I can’t wait for this whole nightmare election to be over, and I mean November. Lets get on with it so we can get one of the 3 liberals out of office in 4 years.
I’ve never been a McCain fan, and I won’t be in the future - unless he puts a nuke up the terrorists wazoo. I don’t want his liberal ideas in the White House, nor do I want someone who was “active” working toward a ticket with Kerry to lead us into a liberal abyss.
Can I suggest a shutdown of the RNC telephone system in response to a possible McCain nomination? Shutting down the DC phone system sure seemed to make a bit of a difference up there on illegal immigration amnesty.
Just give me a date, time and phone number, Michelle. I’ll dial until my fingers look like elbow.
DO NOT CAPITULATE.
Come November, the silence of the conservatives will be deafening.
My position remains the same. If the Republican Party wants to elect a liberal, they’ll have to do it without any help from me. I don’t vote for liberals.
I’ll do what I can to elect conservatives in the other races, but the presidency is lost.
We will make a stand by letting the Republican party know that we will NOT vote for McCain.
That’s what they get for trying to shove him down our throats.
Not to mention, betraying most of us in their refusal to “listen” to the people.
This is what happens when less than half of the states in this country get to decide who the nominee is. What total crap. I dream of an election when there is ONE national primary day and independants cannot vote in it. I just don’t believe somebody on the fenceline should choose my Republican candidate.
The RNC and the GOP leadership must think that we “true conservatives” are blindly loyal sheep. They created this mess, now they will have to live with it’s consequences. The scare tactics of “Don’t let the next President(Obama-Clinton)appoint any Supreme Court justices” is on THEM. Tear the party down now, and let the rebuilding begin! I have to admit that it is a scary scenario if Clinton or Obama is around to fill the Supreme Court with liberal justices. Even if every conservative votes for McCain, he has zero chance of becoming President. The country is very angry with the GOP and George Bush.
McCain cannot win without the base. These are the people that helped Bush get elected narrowly both times. McCain wants to win. If he doesn’t make good on his promises and what he said he would do at CPAC it will begin to show in the national polls. Pollsters will be watching for the base and undecideds. The RNC will be watching the dollars going to conservative candidates and they will get the message. Political campaigns take millions to compete and the Dems are raking it in at 3 to 1 over Republicans. McCain will not be able to depend on Hillary fear to whisk him into the White House. He will have to take action and move to the right. We need to keep up the pressure and let our voices be heard.
I will not submit either. We conservatives who stand on principle have taken a lot of flak from “party line republicans” over at Hot Air and here, but as a lot of us have stated over the past several weeks, I am an American first, and a God fearing one at that, I am a conservative, and I am sad to say, I am no longer a republican.
I read See-Dubya’s post with great interest and the two of you are absolutely correct. If Open Borders McCain shows us some positive action and stops bad mouthing conservatives, I’ll seriously consider voting for him. But he best not wait too long. I’m in a foul mood when it comes to this election.
I have never compromised my core values and refuse to now. I will not take the “Hobson’s Choice” we have been handed by the RNC, crossover liberal voters, and liberal states that have shoved this steaming pile of dung for our choice to be the next POTUS. I will not change my mind unless I see a true willingness to meet conservative principles half-way. McNasty will have to start walking the talk by firing Juan Hernandez as a start and begin to act like a conservative in deeds. Unless he his willing to show real change then I will not come around in November.
OMBROSE ROSE: “That Fred Thompson can KISS MY GRITS”
Hey twit, you’re an idiot and a very bad liar wherein your reason for this drool could only be for an application to the AP as their new spinmeister.
If you want to know what McCain-Feingold was and why it limited free speech of organizations;
http://tinyurl.com/2uq935
For the next of your aspersions OMBROSE, this next drivel you went much further than I’ve seen anyone else go and here you’re either reading from the insane or just flat lying your butt off;
“Senate Committee investigating Clinton Campaign contributions from the CHINESE GOVERNMENT - and successfully DIVERTED IT so NOTHING WAS DONE”
Fred Thompson: “…I speak of allegations concerning a plan… by the Chinese government and designed to pour illegal money into American political campaigns. The plan had a goal: to buy access and influence in furtherance of Chinese government interests… The committee believes that… Chinese government officials crafted a plan to increase China’s influence over the U.S. political process. The committee has identified specific steps taken in furtherance of the plan. Implementation of the plan has been handled by Chinese government officials and individuals enlisted to assist in the effort… Our investigation suggests that the plan continues today.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_finance_controversy
NO ONE says that and then impedes their own investigation, OMBROSE. Which ultimately resulted in 22, that’s Twenty-Two convictions.
Go back and make a real effort to find the rest of the truth.
OMBROSE;
“Same Fred who was appointed to that Senate Committee”
Which one OMBROSE?? Mental midgetry is quickly becoming your middle name.
OMBROSE: “Same Fred who fought TORTE Reform.”
That’s TORT Reform, idiot. Thompson explained exactly why but, you’re obviously not interested in learning anything are ya’??
OMBROSE drool getting deep: “BECAUSE HE SAVED THEIR LEGAL BACON SEVERAL DIFFERENT TIMES in late ’90’s.”
This is just BS. List your sources or shut the hell up.
I have never seen this clown OMBROSE before anywhere on the net but, I’m telling everyone he’s either telling half-truths to spin the rest or outright lying his head off.
Yes, decidedly undecided!
Age of Supreme Court Justices when next President takes office:
John Paul Stevens - 88
Antonin Scalia - 72
Anthony Kennedy - 72
Ruth Bader Ginsburg - 75
Who will President Obama replace them with? Of course, we can expect to take back the White House in 8 years, and:
John Paul Stevens - 96
Antonin Scalia - 80
Anthony Kennedy - 80
Ruth Bader Ginsburg - 83
David Souter - 77
Steven Breyer - 78
Note:
Roberts replaced Rehnquist (age 81)
John Paul Stevens replaced William Douglass (age 81)
Anthony Kennedy replaced Lewis Powell (age 81 - minus 2 months)
David Souter replaced William Brennan (age 91)
Clarence Thomas replaced Thurgood Marshall (age 84)
Ruth Bader Ginsburg replaced Byron White (age 84)
Steven Breyer replaced Harry Blackmun (age 90)
Sandra Day O’Connor retired age 76. Scalia has talked about retiring.
Any liberal Justice might retire under a liberal President so they can be replaced with a 40 year old.
These people are more important than any one president and they are with us way longer than 8 years.
My only hope in Fred endorsing McCain is that he asked him to take on the Thompson immigration plan which is solid.
If McCain refuses, then I will find it hard to listen to Fred or Mitt or anyone else tell me to get behind McCain.
But if he chooses Fred as his running mate and then Fred takes that message of his immigration plan to the people….I will listen. And I will vote McCain.
I suppose it all depends on who the VP selection is and what that immigration plan will be.
..for me, anyways.
The same attitude pervasive in the Republican party is the same attitude that will lead to tyranny in America. People who want to run the government telling me to “fall in line”? What happens when they want to steal our property? What happens when they want to steal our children? What happens when they want to take our lives? Will they ask us to “fall in line” then too?
I’m disturbed. If you don’t believe there is American unrest brewing just look at the recent shootings at the MO city City council meeting and the near shooting near the Super Bowl. I know there is no right for the citizen to act in violence against our elected “leaders”, but what happens when there is true tyranny? It will be those who “fall in line” vs. those who do not.
I heard an interesting take on this yesterday on Rush’s show. He said that it looks like the GOP has decided to depend on conservative’s hatred of Hillary to retain the whitehouse instead of nominating a real conservative… Interesting plan, but what happens if Hillary isn’t the nominee?
Oh, wait, I guess they didn’t think of that…
Jim C
They being the GOP that is…
Jim C
I transplanted from the looong thread my conclusion.
Staying home or writing in is the SAME thing. Will you feel better about yourself knowing that you really did give your vote to the dems? That is super uncritical thinking. Don’t stay home, don’t write in and don’t listen to Coulter. Republicans have to stick together. Think further, please.
I do not want to live in a socialistic society. If you do what you say you’ll do, that is exactly what we’ll get. Get it?
Hey, Fred.
No.
You get in line. I’m sticking my thumb right back in McCain’s eye, just like he did to conservatives for the last 10 or 15 years. He’s given us nothing but contempt and disdain, so guess what he’s got coming from me.
By the way, Fred, I’ve changed my mind. I may vote for Hillary Clinton. Ann Coulter makes a very compellling case to do so in her YAF speech.
So, all the RINOs can take a long hike and stay out of my face. In fact, now that the Colorado Caucus is finished, I’m marching down to the Clerk’s Office this week to change my voter registration back to “unaffiliated”.
That’s the spirit! There’s around 8 months to work on the man, why not put them to good use? Shout at him at the top of your lungs, and keep at it. If enought hard-core conservatives do this instead of sulking and/or quitting the party, then McCain might come around just enough to earn their votes.
That’s putting anger to good use.
That is most decidedly not a good use of anger. “Lose the war!” “Lose the Supreme Court!” “HillaryCare for eveyone!” “That’ll show ‘em!”
Please. If you let your hatred of one man turn into desire to see all of society punished for his failure to meet your litmus test of purity, do you really deserve any kind of political power or influence?
Say what?
There were primary elections. People voted. McCain won. Romney, Thompson, Hunter, Tancredo lost. Nobody is “shoving McCain down your throat.” Your views simply aren’t those of the majority in the Republican Party, or your views would have prevailed.
You lost a battle, not necessarily the war. You can gird for the battles to come, or quit the field. You’ve only truly lost if you choose the latter.
This is very simple, while McCain is not our best choice we can’t boycott this and expect a decent outcome. While McCain is soft on immigration and was wrong and taxes and other issues I don’t think I need to list the things that are wrong with Hillary for you to see he isn’t such a bad choice.
Seriously, are we all ready to help the Clinton’s return to the White House AGAIN?
Seriously…
You want a candidate that is for..
Abortion, universal health care, withdrawing from Iraq, high taxes, etc. etc..
Over McCain.
You really have to be joking.
Patrick Britton:
Read Mona Charen’s piece on the TownHall site and then tell me that this man, McCain, isn’t such a bad choice.
She wrote a very revealing and factual expose on how McCain treats the people he deals with every day - and on why they cannot vote for him.
Anyone who thinks this is delusional. McCain has heard the cries, heard the calls and turned a deaf ear for years. He didn’t change his mind on amnesty. Even if he fired those working for him that are unacceptable, would you have faith he wouldn’t turn around and place them in his cabinet or give them cushy jobs in the administration?
You mean the primaries open to independent voters? Or the primaries that McCain won with something like 35% of the vote? Did you notice how the conservative vote was split between Huckabee and Romney and if you combined their support McCain wouldn’t have won?
It’s not about winning elections. It’s not about being on the winning team. It’s not about watching the other team lose. It’s about the country moving in the right direction. Both parties have been moving the country in the wrong direction (sure the Republicans are correct maybe 25% of the time).
Somebody brought up a point in another forum that may have some merit. And that is that the weak-kneed foreign policy of a Democrat president may change with what they see in that first intelligence briefing. Talking about defeat and retreat on the campaign trail is one thing. Carrying that attitude when faced with reality and having responsibility for what happens is another.
There is no question about McCain’s VP. He was quoted yesterday saying it would have to be “someone that shares his values“. Come on, this man is not a leader, he boycotted a vote (stimulus pkg) he’d have to explain this past week, that’s not leadership.
There is no way McCain is taking Romney, or Fred or anyone else that had a policy difference with him in the last ten years. This man is not Abraham Lincoln who surrounded himself with his rivals. McCain does not have enough backbone for that. It will be a Lindsay Grahamnesty or a look alike.
We need to face facts. To get the next Reagan, we need a Reagan, and there was no Reagan in the current field. Because of different views on policy, there are too many Republicans who will force compromise even when we feel it’ll drag us down. Certainly, McCain may not be the best candidate we’ve ever had, but for those three or four things that us conservatives disagree with him on, McCain has many, many viewpoints that differ from Clinton and Obama.
John Hawkins at Right Wing News puts it best. McCain is not that bad, and if we want better candidates, we best show up on election day and at least vote in local and statewide elections to reward those who have done well. If we are bound to lose the White House, as the attitudes of many conservatives seem to suggest, we can at least fight to take back Congress.
Sorry Regulus;
But I haven’t changed my opinion.
My state has not voted.
There were many independents given voting slips.
No loyalty to this now default party.
I think it’s a good idea to move McCain’s feet to the fire and hold ‘em there on this. If he wants the support of the base he has to earn it in a tangible manner.
The problem is, of course, that’s a subjective conclusion, CRUVa.
I agree. McCain’s speech at CPAC earned him my willingness to allow him to convince me to support him. Frankly, he has a lot of time to make moves that would pull us behind him. If he fails to do that then I say he has to sweat it out till the last day.
Moves like PROMISING BOLTON AS secretary of defense or Homeland Security would go a long way. Committing to surrounding himself with quality people that are desirable to the base while he has time WILL bring us around. He has the time to show us that our support will not be anathema to us.
Oh yeah, FIRE THAT WEASEL Hernandez and he better not have ANYTHING to do with McCain’s administration!!!!!!!!
Now who’s the one that needs who here? If I’m not mistaken McShame needs us a whole lot more than we need him.
Therefore he needs to come more to us …we don’t have to accept him because we are, were republicans. And don’t give me that old line…he’s better than a socialist…yep a conservative would be, but a conservative he is not.
Anyone else notice all his important bills are co-sponsored by a far left liberal… Kennedy, Feingold, Lieberman…where’s his conservative pals…does he have any? He wouldn’t need to reach across the isle he’s already there.
I’m still trying to figure out what happened to the Rep. primary. Best explanation I’ve heard is that the media created McCain because he’s easy to beat and if by chance he does win the election he’s liberal enough for their liking.
I wonder how many Republicans are going to feel angry with the media when the Republican candidate that they couldn’t say anything against becomes the candidate for president they can’t say anything good about. The media will turn against him. It’s just a question of when.
Yes, but is Hugo Chavez available?
Exactly. Conservatives, being the base of the party, are in the driver’s seat. That’s why McCain is pleading for their support, but he’ll have to do more than plead.
That’s also why Regulus’ claim above “Your views simply aren’t those of the majority in the Republican Party, or your views would have prevailed.” makes zero sense and, in fact, even the tiny fraction that was permitted to have input in this extremely short process rejected him. The Republican base who were allowed to vote were the majority and they didn’t vote for McCain.
Remember, McCain had to engage in dirty tricks collusion to stop Romney in West Virgina. So we can dispense with the fantasy of McCain as any kind of “inevitable powerhouse.”
If that were the case, he would be picking out White House curtains with nary a care in the world. Instead he’s in big, big trouble and is pleading with Republicans to save him from disaster.
If anybody really believes the “McCain doesn’t need anybody” argument they’re in for quite a shock when there’s a head on collision as the fantasy meets reality.
email of today to McCain’s website:
Dear Senator McCain,
I have written you twice before about your misguided push to “legalize” 12 to 30 million illegal aliens in your “comprehensive” immigration bills. I have very strong beliefs about our border security and your false dichotomy of “We can’t deport 12 million people, THEREFORE we have to make them citizens”. Baloney.
I will NEVER vote for you unless you promise to abandon this approach and instead adopt the most popular and fair approach - Rep. Heath Schuler’s enforcement-only, attrition through enforcement approach.
That is the ONLY way to be fair to both American citizens and legal immigrants, and have respect for our laws, while letting 12 to 30 million law breakers gradually go home. This is working just fine in your home state, as you well know.
I will be pleased to vote for you ONLY if you give up your program of rewarding illegal aliens with their ill-gotten goods - residency in our country.
See how this approach is working in every state that enforces its new laws:
http://www.jmi.com/immigrationmarches/attrition.html
Only if you promise to use this just and proven approach will I ever vote for you.
Sincerely,
(fred5676)
from Mccain’s website, I not that he has a single race/gender/ethnicity/nationality special interest group - Hispanic.
Since he doesn’t have a special interest group that meets my special needs - national border security and strict law enforcement - sorry, John.
I don’t think I can do it.
Not for McCain.
fred5676 #58 . Good post , if enough will send them it might work.
John Bolton Makes a case for McCain
http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/02/08/bolton-makes-a-case-for-mccain/
There’s something ironic about McCain and his pals calling the rest of us strays back to the GOP herd. Now WE are the ones who should give up our independence of thought to fall in line with the Maverick. But I do like his theme song:
Bomb, bomb, bomb,
Bomb, bomb Iran…
Louie, wouldn’t that make you and others the real “Mavericks”? hahaha!
Yes Fred Thompson has endorsed his friend John McCain, but he waited until Romney dropped out. Yes, that does make a difference yet I am not encouraged that Fred joined ranks with the GOP establishment.
Fark off Fred, GOP establishment AND MacAmnesty! It still isn’t too late for me to vote for the democrat. Keep up the nonsense and I may well do exactly that.
To be fair, Danno, it’s SOP for Republican politicians (and Democrat) to support their nominee. For me, such things go with the political territory and are expected, whether I agree with them or not.
This is Fred being a good Republican, and trying to get the best from a bad situation. It looks like he beleives in “the system” and fixing it, not abandoning it - thus his “close ranks” to take the lesser of evils in his view.
As for me, Yes I liked Fred, not for mainly for his personality, but for his policies. Especially Border, Immigration, Social Security, Entitlement Reform, Disimissing the cult of Global Warming, Winning the War, and most of all FEDERALISM.
When he left the race, we no longer has somone that was a consistent propoent for all these issues.
McCain has a long way to go to get me and a lot of others to “close ranks”. SOrry Fred, but if you really consider McCain to be a close firend, then tell him to fire Hernandez, and have a “come to Jesus” moment with Liimbaugh and come clean on Immigration - have him adopt YOUR policy.
You do that Fred, then I’ll close ranks. And the nation will owe ya one.
But not until then.
And #32 - DOWN GOES OMBRE! SLAM! Good takedown wiht facts instead of hysterical idiocy (Ombre specializes in that, nearly a RuPaulBot when it comes to critical thinking ability)
I’m no longer a Republican, just an Independent Conservative (I refiled my voter registration Friday…). I see nothing yet to convince me to support either party. Keep trying.
This is how we allowed ourselves to be screwed…AND the answers how to unscrew ourselves;
How the Republican Party Committed National Suicide By JB Williams
http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_19227.shtml
Who Hijacked the Primaries? by Brett Winterble
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24726
Lets get BUSY!
Spot on Regulus…spot the frig on! Great post.
Ombre, you might consider starting your own blog, rather than cluttering up this site with your ridiculous nonsense. Your comments are rambling, incoherent, irrational, inaccurate, delusional, and, well you get the idea.
I do understand that, but who says that McAmnesty is THE nominee? Yes he probably will be, but he is not as of today.
In the meantime, Romney wins CPAC straw poll …
Thirty-one percent said that if John McCain were the GOP presidential nominee, they would either vote for someone else, or not vote at all.
I guess that makes me a 31 percenter. I can live with that.
I think the word is to start supporting/endorsing him right away, Danno.
One thing you can say for the Huckster - he’s not giving up easy. Of course, he’s been running for veep for awhile now, but still ya gotta admire him for hanging in there.
Nah, that makes you a “maverick”!
Don’t forget Fred’s ACU rating is not much different from McCain’s.
I concure and submit that ‘the word’ was passed along by the same group who passed along the word to support Illegal Amnesty. The GOP establishment can kiss my enchaladas.
Why, thank you very much! Aside from the obvious McAmnesty connection, I do like the sound of that.
Be warned, GOP. This junkyard dog is going to go maverick on ya’s. >:o|
Actually Fred did not say “Fall in line.”
He said “close ranks.”
I said “Fall into line.”
Besides, if Fred had advocated against McCain, the people condemning him right now would worship him.
eric aka the Tygrrrr Express
As a Republican all my life, I will vote for Obama before I vote for McCain. This country is in big trouble. I hope the next four years pass quickly. The good news is that the fight against illegals is moving ahead so maybe we can keep the illegal population from increasing at the prior alarming rates. Oh, I am forgetting that they breed like rabbits with all medical, housing, schooling and living expenses paid by the taxpayers.
I could not agree more with both of your articles and I said as much in previous posts.
The whole process has been a fraud on the Republican party.
Brent Winterble stated in his article:
“What we have is the sick and twisted dreams of Pinch Sulzberger, Don Imus, Maureen Dowd, Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews come true: the GOP has been forced to choose a nominee designed to cause the base to retch, and thereby not vote. Guaranteeing 4 years of Clinton score settling or Obama socializing entire corporate sectors.”
and another quote:
“This is our party, not John McCain’s or Mel Martinez’s, or Lindsay Graham’s. The Republican Party is THE conservative party dammit. Let’s admit it and take it back. RINOS and Liberals have taken the GOP plane hostage, and its time for us passengers to revolt…and do what has to be done — Let’s Roll.”
It ain’t even a consideration.
And when the idea of it feels IDENTICAL in my guts - no shadow of difference in the least - to voting for HILLARY, then I know the one screaming at me that it is vitally necessary that I do it IS NOT THE VOICE OF GOD, Who gives me great peace that passes all understanding, no matter how hard or difficult or painful the assignment FROM HIM.
This one ain’t from God - I have no second thoughts about it.
It ain’t an option or a consideration.
Like it is not a thought that I must move to the moon without oxygen producing equipment and set up a colony to escape the volcano of Yellowstone.
Never enters my mind that God is calling me to do that. Ya know whut I mean?
Especially if it is Rick Perry doing the screaming with Kay Bailey Hutchison by his side!
SO LOL!
I have a little list going, of true Conservatives, and come November, I will WRITE IN a name of a good man or woman on that top line, and I will vote for good folks down below, who have earned the right to ask for my vote for other offices.
But a vote for McCain cannot save the union.
I will be praying to God and asking Him to remember all the prayers of our Founding Fathers, from the Boston Tea Party to the Alamo, and San Jacinto.
If the GOP won’t stand on THEIR SIDE, then I am “STANDING CLEAR”.
Amen.
AMEN!
I love it!
That is THE difinitive answer to them.
AMEN! Mega Dittos.
Tough #%%#%
Numbers 16, Acts 5
I am going to “STAND CLEAR!”
You do whatever you think is right.
I will vote for someone who keeps that great feeling down in my guts that says CLEAN CONSCIENCE.
You want to willfully and knowingly grant authority to your own worst nightmare, you surely have my blessing.
Enjoy yourself fully.
Remembere - that rating is somewhere to the HARD AND FAR LEFT of ALL of the Supreme Court Justices.
That full bench UNANIMOUSLY refused to attend Bill’s last State of the Union Speech over his PERJURY.
That charge was called a TRIVIAL MATTER by Fred in June 2 007, because of his own vote of NOT GUILTY, in agreement with ALL BUT TWO DIMS, and only 3 other GOP Senators.
That puts Fred FAR LEFT of Ruth Vader Ginsburg.
“The vote of your opponents is the most honorable mark by which the soundness of your conduct could be stamped. I claim the same honorable testimonial. There was but a single act of my whole administration of which [the opposing] party approved… And when I found they approved of it, I confess I began strongly to apprehend I had done wrong, and to exclaim with the Psalmist, ‘Lord, what have I done that the wicked should praise me?’” –Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry, 1812. ME 13:162
Samuel Adams - The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men.
Yeah, I get the idea. I know the quality of my content.
And I see you cannot tolerate having a lot of it around you - you hate for someone to cite the FACTS, first and foremost.
It makes it difficult for you to feel you can CON people into doing WHAT IS WRONG by following Socialism blindly.
BOO!
You cannot cite very many links without the post being deleted.
I’ve cited from:
“Fred Sawyer and Huckabee Finn” by Ann Coulter
“Is Fred necessary?”
By George Will
Thursday, September 13, 2007
“What You May Not Know About Fred Thompson” by John Solomon
Memo to Fred - Infanticide is Not a State’s Right
By Phil Harris
Monday, November 19, 2007
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foxnews
Friday, November 09, 2007
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Thompson Defends Gay Marriage Stance
Oct 1
By MIKE GLOVER
Associated Press Writer
Wednesday, December 12, 2007
“Plain-Speaking” About
McCain-Feingold-Thompson
By James Bopp, Jr.
Friday, September 21, 2007
Evangelicals Hesitant About Thompson
By ERIC GORSKI
Monday, September 10, 2007
The Thompson Campaign
By Paul M. Weyrich
CNSNews.com Commentary
September 13, 2007
Thompson gives no opinion on Schiavo By
BRENDAN FARRINGTON, Associated Press Writer
Fred Thompson Blames Hillary Clinton for Confusion
Over Cuba Remarks
Friday, September 14, 2007
Fox News
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A lot of folks hate Ann Coulter - but NONE can pick holes in her research she does for her material.
Many of these others are prestigeous and have solid reputations, whether you agree with them, or not - George Will is another whose article listed here is chock full of INFORMATION. He is plenty reputeable, too.
Most of these guys CITE SPECIFICS enough for the reasearch to be pretty easy for those who care about FACTS - like how the entire Supreme Court DID NOT SHOW UP at Bill’s last Inaugural address.
The perjury that Fred endorsed may not have been significant to you, but when this entire Supreme Court Bench UNANIMOUSLY takes such a stand, very publicly - it ain’t no small potatoes.
This information has been all over Fox News and the internet ALL YEAR LONG, and if some haven’t availed themselves of their SEARCH ENGINES, it is hardly my fault.
This current mess has been brewing for many decades - if anyone here is delusional enough to think all it will cost is “another trip around the mountain”, you are in for a sad shocker.
School is OUT. THIS one if for REAL LIFE.
Another fact of life that Fred knows that many of you do not know.
Your Word/vote/signature is your bond.
What you vote for or “sign on” to, you have an unusual accountability for.
If for instance, you have JUST CAUSE against anyone for CRIMINAL CONDUCT of theirs against you or yours, ALL YOUR CLAIMS BEFORE ANY COURT ARE RENDERED MOOT AND “DISAPPEAR” and become UNPROSECUTEABLE if you officially RECONCILE with the actor/criminal who injured you.
I.E., if a spouse has some abusiveness take place against them, and they file ch arges - usually only done at the same time as such activity as a FILING FOR DIVORCE, the COURT AUTOMATICALLY DROPS ALL CHARGES FOR THE CRIMES AGAINST YOU IF YOU DROP THE DIVORCE PROCEEDINGS AND RECONCILE WITH THE OFFENDING AND ABUSIVE SPOUSE.
Some of you hate some of the things that McCain amd Fred have done (even if you don’t know that FRED DID SOME OF IT) - but once you VOTE for such a person AFTER THEY HAVE CO MMITTED SUCH THINGS - YOU SIGNED ON - GAVE YOUR APPROVAL and CEDED YOUR RIGHTS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SUCH CONDUCT - LEGALLY.
You hate McCain Feingold and McCain Kennedy Shamnesty, BUT VOTE FOR THE AUTHORS, FOR HIGHER OFFICE, you surrendered your liberties and gave those people AUTHORITIES OVER YOU THEY DID NOT HAVE, BEFORE.
YOU AUTHORIZE THEM with your VOTE. YOU back their play for whatever they do with the authority YOU WILLINGLY AND DELIBERATELY AND WITH KNOWLEDGE gave to them and empowered them with.
And you earned it.
No court will hold you innocent and a victim, and thus hold THEM accountable for CRIMINALLY VIOLATING YOU, by reason of YOUR (deliberate and willful) ignorance.
I used to hold Fred Thompson in pretty high esteem. But, that just did him in for me.
I don’t care if they were chums in the Senate. This isn’t make believe in Law & Order. This is real life.
“Close ranks”? “Fall in line”? How about kiss my behind?
I’ll make up my own mind about whom I will or will not support, regardless of what all of these people endorsing McCain say. If I do end up voting for him, it sure as heck won’t be because a host of self-serving politicians have told me to do so. Ugh!
Fred’s right: it is about what’s best for the country. And what’s best for the country is to taste what it is about to get: a loser for president.
If Fred is endorsing McCain, I guess it’s fair to say that we were better off without him all along - even though he was my candidate.
Thus, I say “hold your votes, let Obama carry the day, and let the country see just what liberalism is about.”
We either learn and survive, or we don’t deserve to.
Not in their wildest imaginations did Washington, Adams, and Jefferson envision madness such as this.
A court over-ruling the voice of the people on gay “marriage?” Do you realize that the very concept of that would have gotten you pilloried in 1780? Could you imagine even mentioning the term in front of Washington, or even Lincoln?
I guess I’m not “progressive” enough. And in 20 years we’ll be saying the same thing about NAMBLA… “do you remember when people were so uptight about pedophelia? Sheeeesh…”
But here we are. A “republican” governor thinking that it’s A-OK. The same governor who supports the “conservative” candidate.
Here we are… Both presidential candidates saying “borders? what borders?”
Here we are… People routinely being forced to give 1/3 or more (a LOT more) of their own income to corrupt state and federal governments?
This is what we fought against, people. Not what we were built upon.