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1. #1
   On February 9th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, purplepeep said:

   There has never been a time that this guy was not a certified doofus. The good Anglican faithful have enough problems the way it is without his ongoing nonsense.

2. #2
   On February 9th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, zorro said:

   It is a sad day that a Christian leader with the stature of Archbishop Rowan Williams makes silly statements like that. Sir, you are wrong, Sharia Law has no place in a democracy. Please resign, effective immediately.

3. #3
   On February 9th, 2008 at 4:43 pm, brooklyn red said:

   Do we have anything like a fawtah? (sp?)

4. #4
   On February 9th, 2008 at 4:45 pm, graysonret said:

   I’ve been following this guy for awhile. This isn’t the first time he has made a fool of himself. Missionary work would be good for him, not a leader of the Anglican Church.

5. #5
   On February 9th, 2008 at 4:50 pm, Frantic Freddie said:

   I was just talking to an English friend,he says the Queen can sack him.Told him I think she should.

6. #6
   On February 9th, 2008 at 4:52 pm, DDB said:

   The next man for the job needs this tattooed on his chest: “I will not submit”

   That would be Michael Nazir-Ali, Bishop of Rochester.

7. #7
   On February 9th, 2008 at 5:00 pm, Papa Louie said:

   Maybe the Archbishop should read this article about Yara before he advocates for Sharia law:

   American Woman Boasted of Saudi Freedoms To Bush Brother Before Arrest at Starbucks

   Two weeks before Yara, an American businesswoman, was arrested by Saudi Arabia’s religious police for sitting with a male colleague at Starbucks, she said she strolled past the very same cafe with another businessman: Neil Bush.

   Bush, President George W. Bush’s younger brother and CEO of the education software company Ignite!, was in the Saudi capital, Riyadh, speaking at an economic forum hosted by King Abdullah for hundreds of influential business leaders.

   Yara, who does not want her last name revealed because of safety concerns, is a managing partner at a Saudi financial company. She went to hear Bush speak, and she said she invited him later to tour her company’s offices, to give him a sense of what life was really like for women living in the capital.

   “I was boasting about Riyadh, telling him it doesn’t deserve its bad reputation,” she said. “I told him I never experienced any harassment. I’d had no trouble as a woman. It was business as usual.”

   But on Monday, Yara learned that she had been wrong. She was thrown in jail, strip-searched, threatened and forced to sign false confessions by the kingdom’s “Mutaween” police.

   “When I was arrested, it was like going through an avalanche,” she said. “All of my beliefs were completely destroyed.”

8. #8
   On February 9th, 2008 at 5:03 pm, katieanne said:

   OT, but somewhat related, Achmed the Dead Terrorist

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go&NR=1

9. #9
   On February 9th, 2008 at 5:05 pm, katieanne said:

   The Archbishop of Canterbury needs to be given the boot. He is a disgrace.

10. #10
    On February 9th, 2008 at 5:10 pm, WarTip said:

    Isn’t this exactly what is already happening in Texas and Canada to boot? (ie Mark Steyn?) Perhaps some resignation … I mean some resignations are due in Texas as well? Even if Canada is beyond our personal scope, it should also bear watching.

    IMHO

11. #11
    On February 9th, 2008 at 5:10 pm, nbarry said:

    With the Anglican Church’s chief cleric like this, who needs infidels?

12. #12
    On February 9th, 2008 at 5:12 pm, right_on said:

    Remove the collar, the crucifix, and add a black turban…..bingo!!!

13. #13
    On February 9th, 2008 at 5:13 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    brooklyn red said:
    Do we have anything like a fawtah? (sp?)

    Crusade:
    A holy war undertaken with papal sanction.

14. #14
    On February 9th, 2008 at 5:18 pm, Marshall Russ said:

    Is this the “Maverick” of the Anglican Church?

15. #15
    On February 9th, 2008 at 5:20 pm, Redog70 said:

    If he wants sharia let him move to Saudi Arabia.

    Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7:15

16. #16
    On February 9th, 2008 at 5:23 pm, Redog70 said:

    -> #14

    Is this the “Maverick” of the Anglican Church?

    Sadly not a maverick. He is the leader of the Anglican Church!!

    Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 7:20

17. #17
    On February 9th, 2008 at 5:23 pm, graysonret said:

    If you have been following English news recently, it isn’t any real surprise. It won’t be long before London will have blaring loudspeakers calling the moslems to prayer several times a day. Don’t smirk; they are seriously considering it. Moslem enclaves are being set up. Best not to go in there either, if you value your health. Even moslem nurses don’t have to follow normal infection controls if it goes against their religion (err…their cleric, that is). They are so worried about “offending” someone and so deep in “pc”, the country has become one confused nation. I would love to visit England again, but I would keep one thing in mind this time. Keep my mouth shut! I could get charged with “hate speech” for upsetting anyone. So, it’s “where is…”, “how much?” and “thank you”. It’s a country where one out of 4 kids, can’t read or write English on graduation. Many students believe Winston Churchill is a fictional character, and Sherlock Holmes is real. One confused nation. So it’s no wonder that the Archbishop is confused too. He’s just fitting in!!

18. #18
    On February 9th, 2008 at 5:30 pm, Boomer said:

    The UK is doomed unless they start doing something about this nutball leading the Church of England along with the PC government agencies bowing down to the thugs of Islam. I have seen plenty on the Sharia creep going on over there and their doomsday clock is quickly approaching midnight unless they do something to reverse this trend quickly. Another reason the founding fathers were specific about the separation of church and state when they built the US Constitution.

19. #19
    On February 9th, 2008 at 5:33 pm, DirkBelig said:

    What they need is some separation of Church and IDIOTS!

20. #20
    On February 9th, 2008 at 5:33 pm, Marshall Russ said:

    He may be trying out for grand Muffti with this mosque coming to Londonastan.

    A giant mosque that will hold 40,000 worshippers is being proposed beside the 2012 Olympic complex in Newham, London. Tablighi Jamaat, a worldwide Islamic missionary group, is planning on building the mosque of the future, called the London Markaz (Arabic for centre).

    While other British mosques have plastic minarets and fake domes to imitate traditional mosques in the Middle East, the futuristic design of the Markaz features wind turbine minarets and an enormous translucent latticed roof to replace the dome.

    Although the three-storey mosque would already have by far the largest capacity of any religious building in Britain, the Markaz can be extended in peak periods with inflatable structures to provide additional prayer space. The 10-acre complex would include a garden, school, library, gym and accommodations for visiting worshippers. The Markaz and its surrounding buildings would hold a total of 70000 people, only 10,000 less than the nearby Olympic stadium.

21. #21
    On February 9th, 2008 at 5:37 pm, TXRose said:

    Katieanne..i love Achmed! Have the dvd. Blind_Mule the spelling is fatwah.
    Here I was feeling somewhat heartened by the pardoning of Qatif Girl and
    some relenting on the the social strictures on women in Saudi Arabia. They
    take one step forward and seven steps back. Actually, she was being very
    unrealistic to think that this could not happen to her, in Saudi Arabia, no less.

22. #22
    On February 9th, 2008 at 5:42 pm, d1carter said:

    This guy is and has been a nut for a long time. It is time for the British people to stand up and be counted. If not, Britain may be lost.

23. #23
    On February 9th, 2008 at 6:11 pm, nbarry said:

    Historically, Henry VII created the Anglican Church to give his people a national religion free of outside control. While toleration of other religions has long been legally mandated in Britain, this elevation of sharia, by the Archbishop of Canterbury no less, negates 500 years of British spiritual life.

24. #24
    On February 9th, 2008 at 6:22 pm, flmom said:

    right-on post#12 was priceless.

    On another thread I mentioned how America needs to protect it’s national identity, and the next day I read about this nincompoop and his idiotic mutterings. England’s national identity has been slowly draining away for many years. This really didn’t surprise me at all, but I waspleasantly surprised at the outrage it has caused with at least some of the leaders over there.

25. #25
    On February 9th, 2008 at 6:36 pm, twoninerkilo said:

    That’s Henry the VIII Nberry

26. #26
    On February 9th, 2008 at 6:37 pm, bit_boy said:

    The Muslims think the Archbishop give them a bad rep. What the Arch had to say about Sharia is not from the Muslims. In fact they offered he could select to live in a multitude of countries where Sharia is the law but they don’t want it in the U.K. (you can look out the window and see any number of hate mongers demonstrating for Sharia but then what do you expect a Muslim hate monger to say).

27. #27
    On February 9th, 2008 at 6:45 pm, flmom said:

    That’s right #25, England was Roman Catholic until ole Henry VIII wanted to divorce Catherine of Aragon, but there was this pesky little rule against divorce, so he excommunicated himself from the Catholics and created himself the head of the church of england.

28. #28
    On February 9th, 2008 at 7:58 pm, graysonret said:

    Actualy, the Pope excommunicated him. Funny, just a few years before, the same Pope declared Henry, “Defender of the Faith”. Shows how politics can rule….

29. #29
    On February 9th, 2008 at 9:36 pm, Lifeofthemind said:

    Henry VIII always felt himself to be a Catholic. He probably believed that marrying his late brother’s (presumably unconsummated) widow was illegal. His title of Defender of the Faith from the Pope, that the English Throne uses to this day, was for his critique of Luther. Henry was an interesting and accomplished man.

    The problem with the Church of England is that after the Civil Wars of the 17th century the teeth were drawn from the established religion. Establishment is not designed to increase the power of the Church but to defang it, house-train it and make it harmless. The tradition arose of sending the fool in the family into the Church. Tolerance became the central formal doctrine of the Church of England. The important thing was they had to be tolerant of royal whims and peculiarities and also of regional or political Protestant minority groups. The expectation was that the non-conformists of the Chapel would in return be politically loyal to the Crown. That was centuries before anyone thought about Moslem immigration. Tolerance for Jews and Catholics came more slowly. Troublesome non-conformist sects were largely exported or channeled into industrial and political movements. That is the historical basis for the Liberals and ultimately the Labor Party.

    Americans sometimes have trouble understanding how the recent carnage of the 20th century, especially the First World War, created the deep strain of pacifism that Britain, and many other parts of Europe, exhibit today. It is much harder for us to understand how the horrors of the religious wars of the 17th century produced the desire for secularism and tolerance that dominates elite opinions in Europe.

30. #30
    On February 9th, 2008 at 9:51 pm, right_on said:

    Funny, just a few years before, the same Pope declared Henry, “Defender of the Faith”.

    And that was because Henry was sending the Vatican how much money?

31. #31
    On February 9th, 2008 at 10:06 pm, Gabe said:

    He’ll never resign. Archbishop Rowan Williams is not even Christian; he is a liberal/socialist who has infiltrated the Anglican church in order to bring change from within. He doesn’t even believe in the Virgin birth or that Christ was divine. In other words, he is a liberal atheist with a powerful religious position as an “agent of change.”

    Communism and Islam have worked hand in hand for the last century or so. His comments were a way for a communist (him) to promote jihad.

    No wonder almost every conservative Anglican has become Catholic by now.

32. #32
    On February 9th, 2008 at 11:22 pm, puhiawa said:

    This man is a one way street to hell. And I wish he would hit the road.

33. #33
    On February 10th, 2008 at 3:05 am, pgtips said:

    Yes, Rowan Williams is a buffoon. There can be no doubt of that. However, how does such a buffoon get to become the head of the Anglican Church? Simple, he is elected by the Prime Minister (Tony Blair). So … what happened to the much touted separation of Church and State (yes, we do get people spouting that here in the UK too)? It seems that people are very happy for the State to meddle in Church affairs while the Church better keep out of all public affairs! Lifeofthemind summed up the situation in Britain very succinctly. The church is being progressively defanged and Rowan Williams was picked as Archbishop not due to his astute Biblical understanding, nor was it due to his charismatic character. No, it wasn’t due to leadership qualities either. He was picked as archbishop of Canterbury because he poses the least threat to the establishment (i.e. a weak willed imbecile).

    It can be considered un-Christian of me to be so critical of the human leader of my church (the true leader is and will always be the Lord Jesus Christ), but I felt strongly against his appointment 5 years ago and I feel even more strongly now that he should leave the job to someone more capable.

34. #34
    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:23 am, graysonret said:

    This is the same guy who said that you don’t have to believe in the Resurrection in order to be Christian. Uh, uh….what drugs are you on?

35. #35
    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:32 am, jeanie said:

    The man(Williams)has becomse a flaming nut case,(and, I have a right to say so as I am a lifelong Episcopalian and a member of the Anglican communion). If he won’t step down on his own then he should be forced out, and quickly, before he can do more harm than he has already done to his Church and his country.

36. #36
    On February 10th, 2008 at 5:09 pm, JohnHolliday said:

    Are the British that stupid? Have they forgotten this recent muslim outrage?

    Idiots!

37. #37
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:01 pm, marty0378 said:

    I have the I Will Not Submit saying tattooed on my back.

38. #38
    On February 10th, 2008 at 8:38 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    I have the I Will Not Submit saying tattooed on my back.

    Seriously? Because I was honestly considering getting that tattoo as well.

    This Archbishop is a joke. He’s supposed to lead his flock and defend his faith. Yet he calls for the complete annihilation of everything British under shari’a law.

    It’s good to see he’s getting flack and outrage for this. Perhaps there’s still a glimmer of hope.

    But then you read this drivel by the BBC, and you realize some have drunk too much of the multicultural Kool-Aid (with gems like this, explaining shari’a law):

    What does this mean in practice?

    All sorts of things in daily life. For example, many young Muslims ask themselves what they should do if colleagues invite them to the pub after work or college.

    Many people would of course make up their own mind about the appropriate course of action. But others may turn to a Sharia scholar for advice.

    So Sharia covers a lot of very mundane and banal daily issues where observant Muslims want to ensure they act within the legal framework of their faith.

    Geez.

39. #39
    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:21 pm, Straight_Talk_Luigi said:

    Sharia will be an issue for Britain in the future. Considering that native Europeans don’t have children and the Muslims do, well, it’ll soon be all about the numbers.

40. #40
    On February 11th, 2008 at 1:30 am, Alphonse said:

    What’s the beef? Maybe he was trying to sound a warning.

    Like we don’t have chamberpot immigration in this country. But don’t blame the messenger–blame Ted Kennedy.

41. #41
    On February 11th, 2008 at 1:53 am, Jim C. said:

    Will no one rid us of this meddlesome priest?

    Where are Reginald Fitzurse, Hugh de Moreville, William de Tracy, and Richard le Breton when you really need them?

42. #42
    On February 11th, 2008 at 4:45 am, Antaradus said:

    The good news is, they are already saying that this will translate into people voting in droves for the BNP (British National Party).

43. #43
    On February 11th, 2008 at 7:18 am, Antaradus said:

    Considering that native Europeans don’t have children and the Muslims do, well, it’ll soon be all about the numbers.

    Not exactly: see this article “British Muslims are in ‘denial’ over inbreeding birth defects, says second Labour MP”
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=513520&in_page_id=1770
    I’ve never heard of vast numbers of inbred and genetically defective people ever achieving anything.

44. #44
    On February 11th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, Dimsdale said:

    Great Britain is a country committing political and social suicide. Time for the famous stiff upper lip!

    I thought this goofy stuff usually started in California and moved eastward. Now we have to worry about liberal pc crap from the European continent too?

    This is precisely the outcome that the liberal PC nutcakes in this country want, tempered with a healthy dose of an illegal alien invasion.

    I feel another Dark Ages coming on…..

45. #45
    On February 12th, 2008 at 10:18 am, englishqueen01 said:

    From the American Thinker, a piece on shari’a law and how it’s - duh! - bad.

    An interested, and thoughtful, piece.

    What’s especially pertinent is the first comment.

    Judging by the person’s handle and spelling, I’m assuming she’s a British citizen - which means she’ll get to see whether or not shari’a law is really a good thing or not.