Huck challenges Wash. state results

By Michelle Malkin  •  February 10, 2008 06:00 PM

Fox News embed Fin Gomez is reporting that Mike Huckabee wants a “full investigation” of the Wash. state primary results:

Fox News has learned that the Huckabee campaign has called for a “full investigation” into the Washington State Caucus results, and are sending campaign lawyers to the state to help in that pursuit. Ed Rollins, Huckabee campaign chairman, directly challenged Washington State GOP Chairman Luke Essers move in anounncing that John McCain had won the tight race with only 87.2 percent of the votes counted.

“The chairman showed very bad judgment in stopping the voting last night when announcing John McCain had won, when there was less that a 200 vote margin between the two candidates,” Rollins told Fox in an exclusive interview.” You never announce a vote, in my 40 years of politics I have never know anybody to announce a vote count before the vote is counted.”

McCain led with 26 percent of the delegates to Huck’s 24 percent.

If something fishy happened, it should be exposed.

I will add this, though: Imagine if it were Romney challenging the Wash. results and continuing to press on with his campaign instead of Huck.

Can you imagine the recriminations and ad hominem attacks that would come his way for refusing to step down and fall in line and “close ranks?”

Yet, none of that has been directed at McCain’s good friend, Huckabee, who’s playing hardball and amassing his power base for the future.

Interesting dynamics at play here, no?

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  1. #240977
    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:05 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Drama, for the sake of drama…

    Who freakin cares.

  2. #240986
    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:16 pm, katieanne said:

    Rules that apply to others don’t apply to the Huckster. He is sooo like slick willy.

    I just wish Huckabee slither away. He’s been a bad dream in a lousy year of politics.

  3. #240994
    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:23 pm, WarTip said:

    Not that I am supporting the Huckster whom I firmly believe should just “Huck it up” and go away but …

    Washington State? “I’m shocked! Shocked that there’s gambling funny business going on in this establishment!”

  4. #240995
    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:25 pm, Boomer said:

    The more I see stuff like this the more I think the fix really is in for Senator McNasty. I have no love for the Huckster, but what ever happened to every vote counts? Unless you are a Democrat running for Governor and have several recounts to find or manufacture enough votes until you finally win. It appears the People’s Republic of Washington has some serious problems when it comes to holding any kind of a clean election. Poor judgment or are we talking criminal judgment?

  5. #240998
    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:32 pm, bit_boy said:

    While watching the WaState return on Fox last night the voting posted McVain 24%, Huckabucka 26%, Paul 2% equal 100% of the vote, no. No! It’s 52% so might I assume Romney had 48% and won the state (he was on the primary ballot). It looks like the GOP has added a wrinkle to the Gregoire-Gore vote counting method. Stop counting when your ahead and destroy the remaining votes (good thing I’m not a Democrat they have more of them registered in King County than acutally live there, Thanks Acorn).

  6. #240999
    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:33 pm, commonsensemom said:

    I think you’re right on the money Michelle. Huck gets a pass from the media, while Romney would have been crucified. I agree that any wrongdoing should be exposed if it exists, BUT you didn’t see Romney sending a team of lawyers to West Virginia …

    And the subtlety of this fits Huckabee just perfectly. Cast doubt, plant the seeds of victimization while maintaining a deniable distance…

    I NEVER thought I’d say this, but this is quite a strange primary season – I think I’d rather have McCain in the Oval Office than Huckabee.

  7. #241003
    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:35 pm, Always Right said:

    Lets see… one candidate starts screaming “Count Every Vote!!”..

    and that same candidates sends in a team of lawyers to challenge an election contest…

    Yep, Huckabee really IS a Democrat.

  8. #241007
    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:39 pm, Marshall Russ said:

    Hey, the man needs a job. Before his run for POTUS his income was based on a few speaking engagements. Is there anything better than a government job these days?

  9. #241012
    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:44 pm, Miss Ladybug said:

    Since Huckabee is making a stink (although I agree that if something fishy happened, it should be exposed), maybe he’s been told he’s not being considered for VP? You know that’s what he’s been angling for… God help us if we end up with McCain/Huckabee.

  10. #241013
    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:44 pm, ThackerAgency said:

    I will add this, though: Imagine if it were Romney challenging the Wash. results and continuing to press on with his campaign instead of Huck.

    Can you imagine the recriminations and ad hominem attacks that would come his way for refusing to step down and fall in line and “close ranks?”

    COME ON Michelle. PLEASE refrain from calling Romney (the multimillionaire) a ‘victim’. Romney’s decision to drop out of the race was HIS DECISION.

    Romney was hemorrhaging money because he was buying TV commercials demonizing everyone else in the field. I personally have a hard time having sympathy for him.

    He would still be in the race now if it didn’t cost him so much. The reason Huckabee is still there is because a. he didn’t drop out (though everyone is asking him to) and b. because his campaign from the beginning has run on a shoestring budget.

    Save your sanctimonious woe is me Romney is a victim rants for victims that truly deserve it.

    If Americans think that a multi millionaire several times over is a victim then our society deserves to fall to people who understand what victimization truly is. Romney isn’t a victim.

  11. #241014
    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:46 pm, rbb said:

    Just blame it on the Washington state democrats practicing for the real 2008 elections…

  12. #241016
    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:46 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

    Hey Huck! I was watching some bread told moldy and your news bit came up. I ignored you.

  13. #241018
    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:47 pm, TXRose said:

    Are they growing these slimeballs in Arkansas? My niece said that she didn’t vote
    for him but that a lot did for the same reason they voted for Slick. Just to get him
    out of the state.

  14. #241022
    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:50 pm, ThackerAgency said:

    Huck gets a pass from the media, while Romney would have been crucified.

    Crucified is an interesting term there. Do you remember when Huckabee was lambasted for using a bookshelf in the background and telling people about the celebration of Christ for Christmas?

    In fact if I didn’t know any better after this election cycle, I’d think that Mormonism was mainstream in America and Baptists were full of kooks and fringe people (try getting the black vote demonizing Baptists – I guess you just don’t want blacks voting for R’s.)

    The arguments that people come up with are amazing. Really unbelievable. I don’t have a dog in the fight and I don’t give a crap. But I can spot crap from a mile away.

    This characterization and line of reasoning is incredibly poor. Romney is as liberal as any of them. . . just ask his Mass constituents who get fined for not having health insurance.

  15. #241029
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:04 pm, Pal2Pal said:

    87% Reporting:

    McCain = 3,468 26%

    Huckabee = 3,226 24%

    Paul = 2,799 21%

    Romney = 2,253 16%

    Uncommitted = 1,729 13%

    Would those uncommitted have gone for Romney?

  16. #241030
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:05 pm, purplepeep said:

    ThackerAgency said:
    I’d think that Mormonism was mainstream in America and Baptists were full of kooks and fringe people

    Nah, it’s just the one fringe kook who happens to be running for Prez that’s an issue. Well, actually he’s been running for the veep slot for awhile now, but I suspect the “Maverick” will dissapoint him in that regard.

  17. #241032
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:06 pm, mngirl said:

    Interesting dynamics at play here, no?

    Very interesting dynamics. I groaned when I watched Huck on some show this morning say that he and “John” were the only ones that had run “civil” campaigns which perhaps was why Romney had to drop out.

    I originally thought Huck would stay in for only a token 2 weeks or something, to save face for he and McCain (to perpetuate the myth that he and ‘his friend John’ were not doing a back door deal to gang up on Romney). Now, I’m not so sure. I do find his wins yesterday, and margin in some, very interesting.

  18. #241033
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:07 pm, twoninerkilo said:

    The corrupt bastards who are cheerleading for McCrazy probably did try to steal WA for the loon, but that’s beside the point. How’s this for a plan,as much as most real conservatives despise the Gomer Pyle looking,tax loving, open borders pile of $h!t; why not get out there and vote for him in mass. Don’t call me crazy yet;if you do that you can deny McCrazy the 500 votes he needs to win the nomination. Then it could go into the convention, where, at best we could actually get a sane person to represent the party, or at least, conservatives would have a say in the party platform. In that case we we could demand a no amnesty, in any shape or form and a garentee to enforce immigration laws to the letter. We could in fact pound that plank up McCrazys @$$ with a 16LB sledge hammer. Making him swear to veto any immigration bills that don’t include 18 wheelers full of illegal aliens headed back across the Rio Grand. In any event even if the huckster won, he’ll know how he got there and wouldn’t dare knife us in the back like the loon would. In the mean time work like hell to get more real conservative in Congress, it’s the only hope we have of keeping America from becoming a third world $h!t hole like these people want to make it. I fought for this country, I didn’t fight for that.

  19. #241034
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:08 pm, mngirl said:

    ….also forgot to say, did anyone notice that Huck was the only one to sign Senator Jeff Sessions’ pledge on Immigration?

    http://sessions.senate.gov/public/

  20. #241035
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:08 pm, postaldog said:

    …imagine the recriminations…

    Yes, let’s imagine if Mitt “flip-flop” Romney was in Huck’s shoes. Everyone of the bloggers and pundits that jumped on his bandwagon after ignoring his past would be screaming blue murder about uncounted votes and the savaging of democracy.

    Interesting dynamics, indeed.

  21. #241043
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:16 pm, purplepeep said:

    mngirl said:
    ….also forgot to say, did anyone notice that Huck was the only one to sign Senator Jeff Sessions’ pledge on Immigration?

    http://sessions.senate.gov/public/

    Thanks for that, Minngal. Interesting.

  22. #241048
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:23 pm, zorro said:

    Interesting dynamics at play here, no?

    Yes. Unexpected from the republicans, typical of democraps. The Huckster and Ed Rollins verses Juan McCain and the country clubbers. I can almost hear John Belushi yelling “Food Fight”!

  23. #241052
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:26 pm, purplepeep said:

    zorro said:
    I can almost hear John Belushi yelling “Food Fight”!

    If Huck is sincere about this run he’d better be willing to toss some mashed taters into McCain’s face.

  24. #241053
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:26 pm, TXRose said:

    I do not and never will trust Huckabee. I’ve heard too much about him from people
    that lived in AR while he was governor and I know that he talks out of both sides of
    his mouth at once.

  25. #241056
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:33 pm, winemkr said:

    If McCain and Huckabee run together the big question will be, which end of the turd is the clean one?

  26. #241068
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:46 pm, Dr. Lead Based Paint said:

    I think I hate McCain so much that I hope Huckabee’s challenge is successful.

    To me, Huckabee has been a tremendous disappointment. He seemed really good at first, then over time with the more I heard, the less I liked him.

    I despise how Huckabee joined together with McCain to force out Romney. I think if he falls victim to McCain’s treachery, it’s his own fault. Anyone dealing with McCain with his eyes closed has got to be an idiot.

  27. #241070
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:48 pm, MrScribbler said:

    Have to wonder how this would have been reported — including here — if McCain had been behind in the vote and asked for an investigation….

  28. #241073
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:51 pm, katieanne said:

    Yep, Huckabee really IS a Democrat.

    Exactly, which is why it is unbelievable so many people have voted for this liberal in conservative’s clothing. Apparently, alot of “I am so impressed that Huckabee is such a good Christian” voters haven’t bothered to read up on this snakeoil salesman and reviewed his record as governor of Arkansas. They are blinded by his sanctimonious Jimmy Carter like religious aura. Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

  29. #241079
    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:58 pm, lgm said:

    As Huck said: “Something fishy is going on.” The Republican party declared a winner before counting (all) the ballots. Huck is doing the Republican party a favor by forcing the truth out as soon as possible. It would be worse to drag this out longer.

    From the Fox article:

    Rollins (Huck’s campaign manager, lgm) was quick to say that they were not accusing the McCain campaign of any impropriety but that their issue was soley with the Esser’s “bad judgement”.

    Huck is a gentleman. He’s just trying to find out what happened.

  30. #241093
    On February 10th, 2008 at 8:15 pm, Barry F. said:

    Although I don’t care a great deal for Huckabee – or, McCain for that matter – it is interesting that an election that close would be called with all of the votes not in yet. Let Huckabee contest the call.

    I had suspected that he was vying for a VP nod and maybe yet be. But, as times goes on, that seems to be less and less likely for him.

  31. #241094
    On February 10th, 2008 at 8:15 pm, beenthere said:

    It’s very important to understand, because a lot of people are making this mistake, including Christopher Hitchens who really should know better, the reason the media is giving Huckabee a pass (and McCain as well) is simply to get at least one of them nominated. A McCain-Huckabee combo would be a dream ticket for the MSM — they are chomping at the bit for it and would pillory the two, up and down, forwards and backwards. Which means, the two have to get nominated first and that requires . . . The point is the dream ticket is still possible but no longer probable — I do believe Mr. Huckabee is starting to get on Mr. McCain’s nerves and that is not a wise thing to do.

    We’re all getting a good chuckle over the democrats problems, but it’s awfully close as to which party is more screwed up. Let us agree that President Moonbeam Obama is not what any rational person would ever want.

    In the end, however, this is not a game. It is the great effort to save humanity’s last hope and anyone who thinks otherwise should, let’s just say, seriously reconsider. Are the people are up to it, because the politicians most emphatically are not?

  32. #241101
    On February 10th, 2008 at 8:20 pm, evilned said:

    Gov. Huckabee “I demand a full investigation!”

    All the conservative voters:

    “I want to nail your head to the table, set it on fire and feed the remains to a yeti. We don’t always get what we want.”

  33. #241111
    On February 10th, 2008 at 8:32 pm, dominigan said:

    Ok, I’m not sure where this herd is going. A lot of these comments would be more appropriate on dKos.

    So it sounds like the Washington State GOP chairman tried to throw the race to McCain using a trick as sleazy as the Democrats would use (in the same state no less).

    Then we have Huckabee challenging the results based upon these sleazy tricks.

    And… most people here want to shoot the messenger? Where are your principals?

    I don’t really care for Huckabee, but if the Washington State GOP Chairman is pulling this crap, then it needs to be exposed! I don’t care who the messenger is, this needs to be cleaned up!

  34. #241116
    On February 10th, 2008 at 8:43 pm, Ragspierre said:

    Interesting dynamics at play here, no?

    Michelle, I remind you of the old Irish curse…

    “May you live in interesting times…!”

    We need to never forget Huckabee, and what he has done.

  35. #241126
    On February 10th, 2008 at 8:58 pm, purplepeep said:

    dominigan said:
    I don’t really care for Huckabee, but if the Washington State GOP Chairman is pulling this crap, then it needs to be exposed! I don’t care who the messenger is, this needs to be cleaned up!

    Ditto, dominigan.

  36. #241139
    On February 10th, 2008 at 9:14 pm, commonsensemom said:

    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:50 pm, ThackerAgency said:

    I’d think that Mormonism was mainstream in America

    If you think Mormonism is mainstream in America, you really should check out this USA Today article from yesterday. (I know USA Today is part of the MSM, but this article seems to be pretty balanced.) The article makes the case against your hypothesis.

    Romney didn’t come out and say “I’m a Mormon, vote for me” – the media and his opponents made it an issue, and a highly charged one at that. If Romney had made it an issue, it would have turned me off, just like Huckabee’s playing the religion card turned me off. I don’t object to people of faith running for office, but I do object to those candidates using their faith for supposed or potential political gain.

  37. #241141
    On February 10th, 2008 at 9:18 pm, TXRose said:

    Ragspierre…I know that the Irish saved civilization by continuing to teach and learn
    during the Dark Ages. They are a wonderful people. However, the curse, “May you
    live in interesting times,” is Chinese. The Irish just can’t take credit for everything.
    (Even if I am 1/2 Irish). LOL

  38. #241150
    On February 10th, 2008 at 9:28 pm, et said:

    I read somewhere that the only reason Huckabee is staying in the race is a surge in his book sales. So, the man is using OPM (other peoples money) to in effect advertise his books, and he pockets the increased profits. The longer he can stay in the race keep this racket going, the more money he makes.

  39. #241162
    On February 10th, 2008 at 9:52 pm, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

    Michelle said,

    Interesting dynamics at play here, no?

    Very much so. And as others have pointed out but should be constantly repeated ad infinitum-to-ad nausium, it’s about the media media media.

    They’re driving, manipulating, shaping this campaign like this country has never seen. Wholesale constitutional rights are being stripped away the transgression is so great.

    Naturally, I’d be all for the Fairness Doctrine if it was applied across the board to all the media, but if enacted it would be “radio only”, of course.

    Malign McCain, Hate Huckabee, Overdose on Obama and Hate Hillary, too. But this line-up, these choices, our world, would be very much different were it not for a media attempting to – and succeeding in – manipulating perception like never before. Don’t like a guy? Make him invisible like they did Romney. Love someone? Pretend like past transgressions are endearments like they do Hillary. Want to hedge you liberal bets? Make Obama all glamour on the issue of his oratory skills and ignore his utterly absurd lack of experience. Want to appear fair while ensuring Democrat victories? Say great things about a pushover like Huckabee. Want insurance against a true conservative takeover, just in case? Make McCain the one good “conservative republican” the world has to offer.

    Part of the problem is our new 500-channel society. The manipulation is less obvious when the manipulative statements are dispersed in tiny, gradual doses. Such obvious, heavy-handed manipulation would not have been possible – and would have induced outrage if attempted – back in the days of three networks and a few channels, when all your options could be fit on a “dial”.

    Hate whom you will among the candidates. The real enemy, first and foremost, before any other, is the media.

    Make it known everywhere you go.

  40. #241167
    On February 10th, 2008 at 9:58 pm, Skeptic said:

    Okay, Huckabee can make and enemy of the Washington State Republicans all he wants. There however is an issue that no one here seems to understand.

    In Washington state the Republicans have a caucus to determine 50% of the delegates and a primary held on February 19th to determine the other 50%. For the shyster Huckabee to make this claim will now cause me to move my vote to McCain even though I detest his amnesty loving ways. I know how the caucus went in precincts that I or friends attended. It was not for Huckabee.

    Now that Huckabee is going to send lawyers and try to claim that he lost because all the votes were not counted, There is someone worse than McCain in this current race and he needs to be shown the door.

  41. #241168
    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:03 pm, Duke of Pronia said:

    Hey Ya’ll (Thacker,)
    The use of “crucified” is the same use of slang that David Shuster used when he talked about Chelsea Clinton being “pimped out.” In my life (I am 46 years old and have been gainfully employed since I was 14,) I have been “crucified” for several things. Have I ever been nailed to a cross and left to die on the side of the road? No. But I have been “hung out to dry,” using the vernacular.
    Lighten up a little bit with the literal interpretation of what people say.
    I think, personally, the 2008 elections starting in 720 B.C. is ridiculous and has created this environment of vitriol and angst that we see today. It isn’t good for us whether we be Republicans, Democrats, or any other political party. We are ALL Americans (except for the illegals that are pouring across our border. They should be picked up and sent back to their country post-haste, without any reservations or recriminations IMHO.)
    I mean, Jesus (oops, sorry to pick one religion over another in this land of freedom and opportunity. /sarc) As a life-long Republican (albiet with ONE vote in 1992 for Bill Clinton in his first presidency) I am LOVING watching the Democrats eat their young as they fight about who is the better candidate.
    But the day Republicans start eating their young? That’s the day we sink to the level of them, and I despise that. Not “brown-nosing” Michelle, but think about this.
    Politics ain’t beanbag, But it ain’t life either. Just sayin.

  42. #241170
    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:06 pm, TXRose said:

    This all started with the Bush reelection and Clinton’s first run. I worked for Pres
    Bush and was extremely interested in the race. I tried to tell people that the media
    was building Clinton up and working to get him elected. Most people told me I
    was being a Don Quixote and it could not happen. Well, it did. The media got a
    president elected once and got a taste of kingmaking and now they intend to keep
    doing so. Hunter was a great candidate but we never ever heard anything about
    him. Romney would have been better than McCain but we heard very little about
    him that was positive. I wish we could have 2 weeks without any media. This
    would be such a different country.

  43. #241176
    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:18 pm, Skeptic said:

    Oh, to follow up on the last post about the structure of the caucus procedure in Washington state.

    Delegates were elected at precincts (4 per plus the precinct chair) go on to the county convention, there people will be selected to go to state. Only at the state convention will delegates be counted for any candidate. Currently each delegate can change his or her mind as they wish.

    On that same issue, in some precincts when there were Ron Paul people they may not have been picked as a delegate. We didn’t have any in our precinct, in my sister’s precinct there were two, they were NOT elected to go to county. Some were in other precincts (they have spoken to the press).

    I am a delegate to go to the county convention.

  44. #241183
    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:26 pm, TXRose said:

    In TX the GOP and the Dems operate differently from each other. That’s why I am
    not that up to date about the Dems. I do remember when I first started voting and
    working elections at the same time. We were using the old Schoup machines where
    the only electric thing on the machines was the light that was on while the curtain
    was closed. To start with, the Dems thought that if you unplugged the machine, it
    wouldn’t register votes. Second, I caught them telling voters that you had to vote a
    straight ticket. That you could not split your ballot. In a general election in TX you
    can split your ballot. Only in the primary do you have to vote a straight ticket.

  45. #241186
    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:35 pm, Ordinary Coloradan said:

    re: foodfight (Animal House/Belushi style)

    If Huck is sincere about this run he’d better be willing to toss some mashed taters into McCain’s face.

    Best if they are from potatos picked by illegals.

  46. #241187
    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:36 pm, rightisright said:

    TXRose,
    There’s only 1 thing missing from your Bush 41 and bubba election scenario…R. Perot. Bubba received 5 million more votes than Bush, Perot received 20 million…how many of the conservative votes do you think bubba would have received without Perot in the race….couple thousand tops maybe.
    We owe the Cliptons to Perot, if not for him, bubba and what’s her name would have gone back to where, AR. with their tails between their legs and we’d never of heard of them again.

  47. #241191
    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:48 pm, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:06 pm, TXRose said:
    This all started with the Bush reelection and Clinton’s first run. I worked for Pres
    Bush and was extremely interested in the race. I tried to tell people that the media
    was building Clinton up and working to get him elected.

    Of course you were right. You’re right again. This is a great story, Rose. You’d be helping your country by repeating it every chance you get.

    The media got a
    president elected once and got a taste of kingmaking and now they intend to keep
    doing so.

    Bingo. Factually on-target and perfectly expressed.

    However, as you know, we can no longer afford to sit by the sidelines and gripe in acceptance. The odds have been pushed to the limit, now. To think we have on the democrat side choices who are 2 junior senators: a former slum-lord defender and probable drug-pusher in one and a shrill, paranoid, finding-her-own-voice-at-the-age-of-60 former first lady known for nothing but contemptible scheming and vices in the other. This has nothing to do with the will of the people if the people were being rightly educated in anything resembling a modicum of fairness. It demonstrates the destructive degree with which the media yields its national influence. After all, if these two candidates fit their respective descriptions, should not our media – our voice so to speak, our window to the world – have described them thusly, at least as one of a small set of possible descriptive options? Yes, in the logic of Murrow, of course, but they did not. Instead they blame what little the country has been made aware of these facts as negative “personal attacks” set upon fair people by an angry group of “right-wing extremists”.

    This is the breaking point. We’re seeing, ladies and gentleman, what must be the breaking point – if this country wants to maintain any similarity to what was good about it 30 years ago.

    30 years ago, the media simply covered angry, left-wing radicals marching the street. Now it’s being run by them. And if that can’t be stopped, then their national influence must be.

  48. #241194
    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:51 pm, TXRose said:

    I forgot about Pee-Rot. He not only screwed up that race but when he was turned loose,
    in Texas, on our public school system he messed that up to the point where the only way
    it will ever get better is to shoot it and start over. But the press did most of it. Perot did
    what most third party candidates do and siphoned off votes, from the GOP, this time.
    Nader did the same thing to Gore.

  49. #241198
    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:57 pm, Jim M. said:

    Did that actually stop the voting or just stop counting?

    Based on the numbers posted by Pal2Pal, if the total was 87% of the total possible votes, there would still be over 2000 votes not cast. With only a couple hundred votes separating Huckabee and McCain, it is at least possible that Huckabee could have made up the difference.

    Possible. If the trends continued with the remaining 2000 votes, Paul, Romnehy and Undecided would have eaten away at half of that. That would leave 1000 between Huckabee and McCain, and Huckabee would have to pick up over 70% of those remaining votes to beat McCain, when his total up to that point had him pulling in under 50% of the McCain/Huckabee voters.

    If the voting was stopped, that was a big mistake. Every vote does count, and declaring a winner before all votes are in certainly provides fodder to cry “fix”.

    Not a surprise it is Washington state. As I recall, the current governor sits only by virtue of votes being counted that were later found to be invalid.

  50. #241199
    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:57 pm, RThomasETC said:

    Jeepers…I haven’t been here in a while and wow do I feel out of place!

    I voted for Romney at the last minute because I feared that Huckabee wasn’t the best all round candidate. Now that Romney is out… I am back to supporting Huckabee.

    I have heard that Romney’s staff really REALLY ticked off a lot of people with the way they were sliming people behind the scenes. That’s nothing but pure hearsay and gossip. However, the person who told me that is not given to that type of dialog and was involved with one of the campaigns. My understanding is that the behind the scenes feud is what solidified Huckabee and McCain to work together against Romney.

    I also met Romney once and I can’t believe that of him … but you know staff… they can be quite nasty on your behalf without you even knowing sometimes.

    I don’t have that cynical view of Huckabee and choose to assume the best of him.

  51. #241202
    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:59 pm, purplepeep said:

    Ordinary Coloradan said:

    re: foodfight (Animal House/Belushi style)

    “If Huck is sincere about this run he’d better be willing to toss some mashed taters into McCain’s face.”

    Best if they are from potatos picked by illegals.

    Of course! Neither Huckster or McMaverick would have it any other way!

  52. #241203
    On February 10th, 2008 at 11:00 pm, rightisright said:

    The press gave us McShame, not that Mitt was perfect but he was a lot better than what we are left with.
    I have to go for sec news flash something about a young woman named Britney…anyone know of her?

  53. #241204
    On February 10th, 2008 at 11:01 pm, Ragspierre said:

    TXRose;

    The Irish invented the Chinese…

    credit where credit is due…

  54. #241206
    On February 10th, 2008 at 11:05 pm, Republican (By Default) said:

    Now you all can see where I got my name.

    I don’t have a problem with the RNC (most of the time), but the WSRP, I have a problem with them (most of the time).

    The state party leadership has a long history of picking their favorite and pushing that onto the rest of us. Their pick is usually liberal, mine never is.

    They have this ridiculous idea that they have to ‘pick people who can win’, which in their minds means liberals. But their picks almost never win. This strategy has lost the state House and Senate since the turnover in ‘94. Yet they continue. I wouldn’t be surprised if Esser’s early calling for McCain was due to this same strategy.

    Dirty tricks abound. They’re changing the primary/caucus rules in almost every election. By the way, half of the state party’s delegates are chosen in the primary, which is on the same day as the Democrat party primary. But Dems don’t choose any delegates that day. So there’s a good chance that Dem voters will cross over, which is entirely legal in our state since we don’t register as a member of a party, we just just a box on the ballot for ‘R’ or ‘D’. It’s perfectly legal for a Dem to check the ‘R’ box in the primary, vote for McGoo (pronounced ‘Magoo’, my name for McCain) and then vote for the Dem in the general election in the fall.

    I’m usually left bewildered by politics in this state, but this is the first time it’s happened 9 months before the election.

  55. #241207
    On February 10th, 2008 at 11:05 pm, purplepeep said:

    Skeptic said:

    Thanks for the report of your experience in the WA vote, Skeptic.

    I’m not sure what the problem might be with having the full vote looked at, though. I don’t mean endless sourgrapes lawsuits – just “what are the vote totals?”. (Although the explanation of why things were stopped might be interesting to hear; it does seem unusual.)

  56. #241209
    On February 10th, 2008 at 11:10 pm, purplepeep said:

    Ragspierre said:
    TXRose;

    The Irish invented the Chinese…

    ….true, but the Chinese invented the suspension bridge.

  57. #241212
    On February 10th, 2008 at 11:14 pm, purplepeep said:

    Huckabee’s a doofus, but I don’t believe he’s an idiot.

    Huckabee’s Actually Done Some Math of His Own

    “It may be miracles he’s espousing, but Mike Huckabee’s done a little math of his own. Even if he might not be able to attain 1,191 votes necessary to win, he’s banking on the possibility John McCain can’t either.

    “If John McCain doesn’t get 1,191 delegates, this goes to the convention, all bets are off,” Huckabee told reporters. “And after the first ballot anybody can end up being the nominee.””

  58. #241213
    On February 10th, 2008 at 11:14 pm, TXRose said:

    Ahhhhhhhhh, but who invented the Irish?

  59. #241215
    On February 10th, 2008 at 11:20 pm, bear1909 said:

    Some scattered thoughts after 2 days of traveling from the Bay Area to Bakersfield California for a family gathering….Hillary carried Bakersfield by a resounding margin….go figure.

    Anyways….seeing this election as a step toward totalitarianism under liberal rule. Can’t help it. The media giving us what is “good for us”….from Al Gore to Barack Obama….to the super delegates.

    The essence of liberal fascism in America is the televangelical MSM government complex, with its steady beat of anti-American “news” and “don’t let the Republicans get elected or it’s bye bye Roe vs. Wade.”

    I am with Mr. Conservative_Cat on the point of lack of experience.

    Imagine either of these Dhimmicrats as President meeting face to face with Putin.

    Neither of them with as much experience in matters higher than some of the mid-level bureaucrats who occupy positions in the machines or our global rivals.

    Shades of Jimmy Carter.

    How do we organize for this fight and bring the liberal fascist MSM down…how do we change this institutional arrangement? Who runs it? Who funds it? Where do we put our money?

    (I watched Chris Matthews this morning while traveling….the vacuous “Katty” Kay of the BBC was one of his panelists…wtf?)

    We have to find a way.

  60. #241219
    On February 10th, 2008 at 11:31 pm, jeanie said:

    Huck is becoming a prize winning nuisance.

  61. #241226
    On February 10th, 2008 at 11:54 pm, Ombre Rose said:

    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:32 pm, bit_boy said:
    While watching the WaState return on Fox last night the voting posted McVain 24%, Huckabucka 26%, Paul 2% equal 100% of the vote, no. No! It’s 52% so might I assume Romney had 48% and won the state (he was on the primary ballot). It looks like the GOP has added a wrinkle to the Gregoire-Gore vote counting method. Stop counting when your ahead and destroy the remaining votes (good thing I’m not a Democrat they have more of them registered in King County than acutally live there, Thanks Acorn).

    Same for several states, I noticed – it just doesn’t add up.

    Looks like there is a large elephant in the room.

    Still, Romney was smart – the targets they all had plastered on him were so disgusting. They call him all kinds of nasty things, but then HE is the “HATER” – and yet he retired without a singly sleazy action on HIS part!
    You sure cannot say that about Huckleberry and Son of Cain.

    I hope we are going to be giving Rick Perry a very very nasty case of indigestion in a few weeks, at the Texas Primary.

    And Chuck Norris, too.

    hehehehehehe

  62. #241228
    On February 11th, 2008 at 12:00 am, Ombre Rose said:

    On February 10th, 2008 at 6:47 pm,

    TXRose said:
    Are they growing these slimeballs in Arkansas? My niece said that she didn’t vote
    for him but that a lot did for the same reason they voted for Slick. Just to get him
    out of the state.

    Too funny – I told some folks a few weeks ago THAT is exactly what I suspected. Some of our San Antonio radio hosts had actually made the trip up there during Clinton’s first campaign and come back with THAT report.

    It’s the only thing that makes sense. Only those who don’t know him at all would assume he’s the fabric they cut a good Baptist preacher from! Him being a little Socialist Sprig, and all.

  63. #241229
    On February 11th, 2008 at 12:01 am, Mr_Conservative_Cat said:

    “If John McCain doesn’t get 1,191 delegates, this goes to the convention, all bets are off,” Huckabee told reporters. “And after the first ballot anybody can end up being the nominee.””

    Hm. This is interesting. Unless I’ve missed something, he’s right. Perhaps Romney knows it, too, whcih is why his election was classified officially as “suspended”. Can you spell “HOPE”, anyone?

  64. #241232
    On February 11th, 2008 at 12:11 am, purplepeep said:

    Mr_Conservative_Cat said:
    “If John McCain doesn’t get 1,191 delegates, this goes to the convention, all bets are off,” Huckabee told reporters. “And after the first ballot anybody can end up being the nominee.””

    Hm. This is interesting. Unless I’ve missed something, he’s right. Perhaps Romney knows it, too, whcih is why his election was classified officially as “suspended”. Can you spell “HOPE”, anyone?

    Over at the Freep (Free Republic) at page top it says “Primary Voters: Vote against McCain! Vote for deadlock! Vote anyone but McCain!”.

    I’d like to see the convention hash the nomination out and settle it there.

  65. #241233
    On February 11th, 2008 at 12:13 am, Ombre Rose said:

    On February 10th, 2008 at 7:06 pm, mngirl said:
    Interesting dynamics at play here, no?
    Very interesting dynamics. I groaned when I watched Huck on some show this morning say that he and “John” were the only ones that had run “civil” campaigns which perhaps was why Romney had to drop out.

    I saw the same remark about a week back or so – I thought I’d gag. “CIVIL” with him and McCain in the same breath!

    ROTFLTHH!!!

  66. #241236
    On February 11th, 2008 at 12:23 am, Ombre Rose said:

    I heard Huckabee myself, May 27th, explaining to teens how the side benefit of giving illegal aliens THEIR RIGHTS TO VOTE could potentially be the overturning of Roe V Wade.

    I want y ou who do not know your Bible o r want to, to know – he didn’t get the idea of making a side benefit out of massive illegal activity which robs people of what is rightfully theirs, ESPECIALLY THROUGH TAXES, from any thing God Jehovah the God of Abraham and Israel, or Jesus, the Son of God our savior – from ANYTHING they either said or did or implied.
    (Just so you know – Jesus has an EXTRA penalty for TAX GATHERERS who use th eir authority to abuse the citi zens by taking more than they are supposed to take, and for taking that which they know the citizen cannot afford.)

    NOWHERE.

    And to go say something to the kids, in a manner in which he KNEW better than to say to the teens’ parents and elders…..

    THAT is sleaze.

    I’ll never have a higher opinion of Huckleberry than I do of a hairball caught in the stomach of a cat.

  67. #241241
    On February 11th, 2008 at 12:30 am, Ombre Rose said:

    On February 10th, 2008 at 10:51 pm, TXRose said:

    I figure Perot and Huckleberry are about two of a kind, but last time I looked at the stats – Perot didn’t siphon off enough to take a win from Robert Dole.

    Take a look at Reagan at CPAC 1975 –
    then 1) Gerald Ford
    2) Robert Dole
    then 3) John McCain

    Decks cleared for McCain 9 months to the day exactly – Feb 7th to Nov 7, 2008 – Huckleberry is just a horsefly on the wall trying to pretend he is a horse jockey.

    I want to stand as far away from the epicenter of what is coming – The PERFECT POLITICAL STORM - as possible, and pray.
    2 Chronicles 7:14.

  68. #241278
    On February 11th, 2008 at 2:19 am, graysonret said:

    #58…TxRose…why, Al Gore, of course. Didn’t he invent everything?

  69. #241313
    On February 11th, 2008 at 7:33 am, DagneyT said:

    Nobody told him dead people get to vote in Seattle? I thought everyone knew that was de rigeur for that bastion of left coast moonbattiness.

  70. #241317
    On February 11th, 2008 at 7:51 am, orlandocajun said:

    Notwithstanding the lack of sympathy that I have for any candidate, the games that some play in politics are sickening. It should be illegal for news networks to “project” a winner, while polls are open, in an election and it should be 10 years in prison for a party affiliate to do it. Now that would be a good addition to McCain-Feingold.

  71. #241322
    On February 11th, 2008 at 8:21 am, babbledabble said:

    I agree – who cares. The whole thing is depressing. Romney dropped out so I am not voting for either of the two. We in Wisconsin didn’t get a chance to vote for anyone else. Huckabee was on Fox this morning saying the same thing that Romney did about everyone being entitled to stay in as long as they want. Now the shoe is on the other foot & he is whining.

  72. #241324
    On February 11th, 2008 at 8:27 am, babbledabble said:

    P.S. I am not saying I won’t vote at all, I am saying I don’t plan on voting in the primary. Since I am not enamored with either McAmnesty or Huckleberry & Romney is out, I will wait until Nov & make my decision then.

  73. #241325
    On February 11th, 2008 at 8:35 am, DanME said:

    Oh Huckapoo. What did we do to deserve this guy? Mr. Christian Socialist !!!!
    Business is bad, high income achievers are bad, low taxes are bad, redistribution of wealth is good, welfare is good, big government is good. Tell me why this guy is a Republican.

  74. #241640
    On February 11th, 2008 at 1:03 pm, TXRose said:

    I keep saying that I want a floor fight at our national convention. It could come down to
    Romney or Thompson even if McCain can’t get the others to release their delegates to him. I know the Dem Convention is going to be nasty. I just hope that ours is very, very
    interesting.
    BTW Graysonret…my husband is half Italian and he thinks the Romans invented the Irish.
    I keep trying to tell him it’s the other way around. LOL

  75. #241673
    On February 11th, 2008 at 1:27 pm, uhangtight said:

    TXRose, you say the media got their first elected, Clinton. Oh, wish that were true. But, back in the 70’s I had a friend that was in the upper echelon of ABC, and the media heads got together and decided back then who they were going to have as the next President. That was Carter.

    So, would that it only first began with Clinton. Somehow, they didn’t get Gore or Kerry as they wanted and we did get Bush instead. Reagan they couldn’t stop because of his philosophies and ideals. This time the conservatives are being shut out of the media totally because if they are allowed presentation, they win instead of the media darling. That is why the sudden influx of Huck and McCain, the media was handed what they wanted all along and now they can marginalize immigration and all things conservative.

    pray for a brokered convention. i say let huck the schmuck stay in and maybe we can get a real conservative!

  76. #241767
    On February 11th, 2008 at 2:22 pm, TXRose said:

    Sorry. I wasn’t as observant when Carter was running as I was from Reagan on.
    Here’s an interesting piece on delegates written by Ted Olsen.

    http://online.wsj.com/SB1202690028432513.html

  77. #241777
    On February 11th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, TXRose said:

    Forget about the above link. Just checked it and Wall Street Journal shows it as no
    longer available. I linked through Instapundit.

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