Newsflash: Cable TV filled with jerks
No, I haven’t blogged yet about MSNBC’s Chelsea/”pimp” brouhaha, which the Clintons are now milking for all it’s worth.
Cable TV is filled with smug, thoughtless jerks.
I’ve encountered plenty enough of them. They know who they are. You know who they are.
Rude. Sexist. Yammering. Insipid. Vain.
Clowns. Frauds. Hypocrites.
This is news?
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Chris Matthews.
Geraldo.
Shillary needs to SUCK.IT.UP.
Politicians may need to be PC but the rest of america has a constitutional right to Free Speech.
TV Content=Filled with Jerks. Of course, the left-leaning pimpmeisters get away with it all the time.
David Shuster’s error boils down to a poor choice of words. His apology should be enough.
Hillary is married to a man who dropped his drawers and waved his weenie at Paula Jones and told her to ‘kiss it’. Soo her extreme indignanace is somewhat…………phony.
She was also part of the same gang that referred to Paula as ‘trailer trash’.
And let’s not forget her complete disregard for Kathleen Willey….Juanita Broderick…
Anderson Cooper of CNN. He has advertisements on the metro buses in DC, with a gigantic picture of his face and the arrogant headline “Keeping them honest” (which is liberal-speak for challenging the Bush administration, the Iraq war, our fighting the War on Terror, etc.)
How about keeping the liberal MSM and liberal politicians “honest?”
And let’s not forget the Mother of all Liberal Knee-Jerkers……
***Keith Olberdork***
And that’s their strong suit.
Oooops, Hoodspeak malfunction, (aka pulling an Imus) Oh well, plenty more where he came from.
It certainly says something about the pro-Obama MSDNC when they resort to using ebonics to disrespect a former first-family member
This is why I gave up on cable/msm news. I just don’t watch it anymore. Most of the time, it’s 20 minutes of commericals, 35 minutes of infomercials (people selling books/diets), gossip and sensationalism, and 5 minutes of real news, usually slanted left or right depending on the producers. I will turn it on if Michelle is going to be there, and I can access a tv at work. Otherwise, I ignore it all. I get my news off of the internet, picking and choosing what I want to read/see.
So Shuster gets suspended for a poor choice of words to describe a political couple using their daughter to get into the White House……
But idiots like Olbermann broadcast on and on without a blink and continuously demeans and slanders and lies each and every night…
Let us not forget the labeling of our dear hostess Michelle as the “worst person in the world” for being the TARGET of one of Geraldo’s rants….
the T A R G E T !!! Not the issuer…
How rich…..
Guess we see who you can and cannot speak ill of on MSNBC….
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If the Clinton’s are campaigning they’re most assuredly PIMPING!
Next, look for a little PIMP lip biting from Slick Willie just to reinforce his feigned displeasure, milking the matter for every point possible on the PIMP-O-METER!
With the recent rate increase in our Direct TV service hitting on 27 Feb 08 we will be reducing our current package significantly. We find it to be a total waste of money and if things keep going the way they are we may do away with the service all together.
So much for freedom of the press when you speak against Democrats.
hmmm? … ok … obviously a bad choice of words by a MSM idiot … he could have said “taking advantage of” or “using” or others … so an IMUS moment … but let’s analyze this word usage for a moment …
/sarc on/
Politicians sell themselves to special interests all the time and are expected to perform specific acts in return … I believe that is a classic definition of “prostitution” …
Now … those that represent and attempt to promote that politician are in essence selling that persons services … which is the definition of a “pimp” as relates to prostitution …
So … it is a logical deduction that if politicians are prostitutes by their actions of selling their services then those promoting those services to others could reasonably be referred to as their pimps …
/sarc off/
sorry folks … couldn’t resist this morning … I am just so tired of the PC police parsing and analyzing each and every word uttered by us all that this whole thing to me is being blown out of proportion …
As if renting out the Lincoln bedroom in exchange for campaign donations wasn’t pimping.
Shillary has been pimping universal health care for years.
If the HO’ fits….
You wouldn’t be referring to Geraldo by any chance would you Michelle? If so you’d be right.
I couldn’t help but laugh out loud when I read this story a couple of days ago. “Pimp” is a very accurate word for the situation. But, I too, am very tired of these jerks on cable. The Internet indeed seems to be the place to get news… foxnews.com, drudge, and here are where I get the majority of my news.
What are other good Web sites to get fair and accurate news and information? And, not just political news; what about US, world, science, technology, etc?
The more people realize there are far better options than the talking heads on television and cable for news and information, the sooner those talking heads will become irrelevant.
Recall all the jokes and abuse the Bush twins took over the years. Had the president or Laura Bush for one second whined to the networks, we’d have never heard the end of how they want to control television, we’re in a fascist state, blah blah blah.
Where are all the defenders or free speech now?
Q: Where are all the defenders or free speech now?
A: Denmark
#17….YOU NAILED IT. I completely forgot about the Lincoln Bedroom and Coffee party pimp-o-thon the Clinton’s ran.
Pardon me, I came to the thread late. Are we discussing Geraldo, or Chris Matthews?
Let’s throw Shepherd Smith into the mix too. Vain, Insipid and yammering.
Like your apropos adjectives Michelle…. I’ll add “Nasty Arrogant Nitwit Blowhards”.
On September 20, 2007 – Keith Olberman accused President Bush of “pimping” out General Patraeus. Here’s the vid and transcript (use of word Pimp is in the last few paragraphs):
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/092107A.shtml
Chelsea Clinton is an adult, President Bush is an adult. The MSM -except MSNBC- who are replaying and replaying the MSNBC David Shuster event and allowing Clinton to play it up are -once again- creating their own double standard.
Clinton and Howard Wolfson on this topic are as nauseating as Clinton was on the fictional, media created, snub during the SOTU.
In many ways, the TV camera is both a blessing and a curse. How fortunate we are that cameras bring the world into our homes each day. Yet, how unfortuate for us that they fuel the massive egos of the self-centered maniacs that are in love with their face and the sound of their voice.
Oh now, be careful, Shep Smith may be those things -I disagree- but damn is he cute and adorable looking while he does it. He is absolutely the best looking male on Cable TV.
Billary try to shield Chelsea from the press, but use her to stump.Another double standard from the King and Queen of them.
Republicans are well aware that the media is loaded with these jerks. What conservatives failed to notice that the same could be said of the GOP.
Rude. Yammering. Insipid. Vain. Clowns. Frauds. Hypocrites.
Sorry to be OT…
Is that the Kermit Frog’s News Flash Logo from Sesame Street? Some things are burned burned to memory.
The Clinton dynasty will continue and the implications will fuel victimology at every opportunity.
The Clintons are hypocrites and that won’t change.
I’m not sure why FOX puts up with Geraldo. What idiots are watching this guy? As for the MSNBC crude crew – Schuster, Oberman, Mathews – Very few people watch that channel. MSNBC is a complete embarrassment for it’s owner GE.
The sooner this election is over and Billary loses, the sooner we can stop having to hear about her every hour of the day.
So Hillary wants Shuster fired, well she wanted Rush censured remember she signed the letter they sent to Rush’s employer. Meantime Hillary wasn’t at all offended, when Keith Olbermann stated that General David Patraeus was being pimped by the Bush administration last June. A willful suspension of disbelief, if only!
Oh yeah it looks like Tim Russert did learn somekind of lesson from his good friend Don Imus being fired from MSNBBC last April. What did Hillary learn, she can make the VP Griffin, do whatever she wants, He wanted to fire Shuster on the spot.
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2008/02/msnbcs-shuster-suspension-now.html
My big problem here is that more of these crude idiots are not getting suspended or fired. Of course, there might not be anyone left to deliver the “news”, but I’m thinkin’ that maybe that might not be so bad.
This slur does rub me the wrong way, though, for a few reasons.
One, I don’t think news people should be tossing out words like “pimp”. It’s more of that digusting, sleazing-down of the language; we’ve already got enough “pimp my ride/crib”-type sleaziness as it is.
And, second, this is a young woman who’s just campaigning for her Mom. There’s nothing wrong with that and ,in fact, I think it’s an admirable thing for a child to do, no matter my opinion of the candidate.
#35
Except Chelsea wasn’t out Glad Handing the Electorate, she was calling Super Delegates for her mother.
And it was fine for Keith Olberman to use the term pimping in refernce to a decorated Army General, with troops in the field, during a shooting war. No one said anything, when he used the term Pimping. So a former President’s daughter id off limits? Really? she is a 27 year old adult, that was inserted into her mother’s campaign, she isn’t a child, that was just standing around not involved. You really don’t see a double standard. This is about who can say what about who in America. The Clintons are not Royalty, I know the dynasty aspect confuses people. Hillary Clinton is running for an office to SERVE the American People, not the other way around. She sounds like the Red Queen, from Alice in Wonderland…off with their heads…yeah that does sound like royalty.
Meanwhile MSNBC the Walmart of Cable News outlets, spill in aisle 9, clean up, spill in aisle 9.
http://imustimes.wordpress.com/2008/02/09/wiping-up-after-hypocrisy/
I think the “pimping” comment was totally justified, especially when used in the context of the Clinton family. To wit:
Bill has acted like a “John” for most of his life.
Hillary whores herself out to any cause as long as the contributions keep flowing in (Bill too, so, I guess he’s a gigilo too).
The Clintons are geniuses. They are criminal geniuses, but geniuses nonetheless.
Absolutely NOTHING that happens to the Clintons or anything that the Clintons do is happenstance.
Things like the “pimping” comment are precisely choreographed to match the Clintonian purpose at any given moment.
Don’t y’all remember? We had EIGHT years of this before! Lie after lie. Fake story upon fake story. Fraud followed by fraud. And just recently – the bogus “$5 million loan” story… have you forgotten?
Hillary has a point about the crassness on some cable news shows, but she’s a hypocrite. She signed Rush Limbaugh’s radio death warrant over the “phony soldiers” hubbub. When will she apologize for that action? Calling for Shuster’s head after his apology and suspension is not very sporting. She just wants to dish it out but can’t take it. Her “class” is in the “lord it over” league.
Laree said:
#35
That’s meaningless. Earns nothing more from me than “So what?”. It justifies females being attacked in the coursest of vulgar terms by newspeople?
Nope he should have been fired a long time ago.
Maybe you have no female children or siblings, Laree, I dunno. It may be difficult for you to understand. But I think you would agree with most other folks on the concept of trying to maintain the basics of civility, if not chivalry.
I find similar sleazy-mouth attacks on Jenna and Laura Bush just as wrong. The sleaze-hate attacks on Michelle are certainly extremely contemptible.
Okay, Rob at SayAnything has the best video up, abbreviated, it includes the Olberman comments on David Shuster’s “assiduous” reporting, then segues into Olberman’s use of the term “pimping” referring to the President instead of Junior Clinton:
http://sayanythingblog.com/
No I don’t think Pimping rises to the level of a threat or attack against Chelsea Clinton – that is you inserting your subjective opinion. I think it is slang used in our culture every day in a myriad of ways.”Pimp My Ride” I am not puritanical or parorchial. I don’t look for excuses to be offended. I am a woman if Hillary Clinton can’t take words like Pimping, what is she doing running for the highest office in the land. This is not Presidential, constantly playing the Victim Card and Crying on Cue. Maybe this will play with women voters in Virginia Tuesday and win her delegates.
It isn’t a coincidence that Obama won every state last night but we are talking about Hillary Clinton being offended in the Media. Hillary Clinton Mission Accomplished.
I think Chelsea Clinton is a grown woman who is acting on her mother’s behalf, I do not believe for one minute she is somehow off limits to criticism.
OK, David Shuster is a jerk, & we all agree, I think. But all he did wrong was to be a jerk & try to use “hip” lingo from a culture which he could not possibly relate to.
I am a white man living in predominantly black Ft. Greene, Bklyn.
My friend is not “my nigga”, my date is not a “trix”, her friends are not “her bitches”, and I don’t “roll like dat” & even try to speak Spanish.
It is however madd stupid when a black person calls me “dude” LOL!
This is where you and I differ, Laree. I don’t see rants of “Whore!’, “Pinp!” as “criticism”. Instead, I view it as a massive display of crudity and depthless ignorance.
I certainly don’t see it as a big winner argument in the politcal arena. My view is that it might be good emotional red meat for a few, but I really don’t think it sells as well to the American general voting populace.
I raised the question about you having any female children or siblings for a reason, Laree. What do you think should be the reaction of parents if someone calls their daughter a whore? Are you saying that the father shouldn’t have a desire to see the accuser sipping his supper thrugh a straw for awhile?
My mother told us as children that if a person is incapable of having a normal conversation or debating without resorting to vulgarity or profanity, they are stupid. I have to agree with her. It is lazy speech. There are many words in the English language that can be used to express one’s feelings without being crass.
It was inexcusable to use the word pimping in regards to Chelsea working with her mom’s campaign. It certainly wasn’t professional, but then, when has the term “professional” been used when talking about NBC or MSNBC?
Hillary had the right to be ticked. I would be too if that word was used towards one of my daughters. That being said, I truly believe that if it had been said about a Republican’s daughter, no repercussions would have occurred against the fool that spoke those words.
Yup, Katie, I don’t think the solution is to see who can sink to the lowest depth of vile gangsta-ghetto garbage talk. Holding those who enable it and taking the people who engage in it to the mat is what’s needed. On that we need to much more proactive.
I was recently watching hours of old NBC coverage of the JFK assassination, I was young at the time so I don’t have many deep memories of the coverage. It’s an amazing world of difference how tv news people conducted themselves.
Chelsea grew up in a family of Grifters and Flim-Flam artists. Like most common criminals they protest loudly when confronted with their own bad behavior.
Okay, now that the horror… the HORROR of what was said in the MSNBC broadcast has been thoroughly hashed out. Can somebody now please just answer the question?
Have the Clintons been pimping out Chelsea to their advantage?
One must possess morals before one can be morally outraged. The Clinton Clan has no morals or dignity.
#43,
I am not going to discuss my family. I am not making an emotional statement. I am thinking about the slang word pimping, and the context, we have a little thing called free speech and freedom of expression in this country, that gets abused everytime someone gets offended. The answer to unpopular speech is not less speech it is more speech – Tell David Shuster, he has been shut up! Hillary Clinton’s signed the letter to have Rush Limbaugh censured by his employer. Hillary Clinton took credit for establishing Media Matters For America at a Daily Kos convention, you don’t see a trend here….Hillary needed a media monitor because I guess the FCC refuses to get into the political squabble about what you can say about another person’s political idealogy. Why? I guess it that pesky 1st Amendment thing again. Calling for Shuster to be fired because of an offense not because “Pimping” is on any list of words, you can’t use on Cable. There is a trend.
Still last June, the samething was said about a Decorated Army General, I don’t remember Hillary Clinton taking offense? No she needed a “willful suspension of disbelief” to even believe the report on the surge, the General was delivering to the Senate.
What offends Hillary Clinton is very subjective…will it help her look sympathetic in the MSM, while she is trying to win her party’s presidential nomination…selective outrage.
Inside Cable News picks up on an observation by Extreme Mortman about the dubious double standard at MSNBC. Here’s Edward R. Murrow Apparition Keith Olbermann attacking George Bush in one of his tedious Howard Beale “Special Comments”:
9/20/07: “And in pimping General David Petraeus and in the violation of everything this country has been assiduously and vigilantly against for 220 years, you have tried to blur the gleaming radioactive demarcation between the military and the political, and to portray your party as the one associated with the military, and your opponents as the ones somehow antithetical to it.”
David Shuster’s was commenting on the Clinton’s pimping out Chelsea Clinton in reference to the Super Delegates. Chelsea was calling Super Delegates…that is a really BIG DEAL. Read a transcript he wasn’t literally saying the Clinton’s were pimping her out. And there are 800 Super Delegates…Obama could get sucker punched if a back door deal is made for those Delegates. I have heard that one Louisiana Senator will give up her Super Delegate vote if this comes to pass, the Clintons making a back door political deal..or as they say in D.C., politics as usual.
Meanwhile I am sure people in Virginia will vote for Hillary out of Sympathy on Tuesday not because she is more qualified but because they can EMOTIONALLY identify.
You don’t have to, that’s why I posed detached, 3rd party questions:
“What do you think should be the reaction of parents if someone calls their daughter a whore? Are you saying that the father shouldn’t have a desire to see the accuser sipping his supper thrugh a straw for awhile?”
What say you on that?
Three things there, Laree;
First, we’re talking of a very specific instance not the whole of human verbosity since the dawn of time.
Second, with free speech comes accountability and consequences for what a person says. There’s no way to avoid that.
And, third, I don’t know that vulgar attack terms would be quite what I’d hold out as an example of the best and brightest oratory resulting from the first amendment.
David Shuster’s comments are nothing less than OUR right to free speech, which by the way IS in jeopardy.
McCain/Finegold, fairness doctrine, etc.
Contact MSNBC & support Shuster while you still can. (we can throw him under the bus latter).
Great posts purple…couldn’t agree more. There’s a thing called manners Laree. Anybody calls my daughter a “whore” and you better believe they’re going to hear about it from me and all her brothers.
Geraldo and Hannity are the two biggest tools on cable news in my book.
If Hillary really was concerned about protecting her delicate child from being subjected to vulgarity by the press, she would have left Bill, who has treated women like meat ever since his days in Arkansas. Instead she chose to advance her career in politics.
If you lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas.
I do agree with the consensus of folks here that Olbermann should have been shown the door a long time ago for his log-standing buffonery, crudeness and crassness, Dakine. Or at least he should be stripped of any duties even remotely resembling the “News” appellation.
The only thing I’d disagree with some of the good folks here on is if they might contend that criteria shouldn’t be applied across the board.
All the crudeheads should roll.
dakine, yes manners are good, until they become the excuse for censorship. Our very rights are at risk here…
They are among the weasels, Dakine, but I suspect we’d both consider them jerks for different reasons.
Also, I don’t know that an obsession to get Hillary by any deploarble crude verbage will be all that helpful when everything is said and done. Forgetting about a guy named “Obama” is done at one’s own risk.
FTFY.
I really don’t see what the fuss is about this. I’ll go out on a limb and say if a black TV personality had said it, especially on, oh I don’t know, BET maybe, not only would this be a non-issue, no one would have even heard it.
As purplepeep pointed out, free speech comes with consequences and accountability. People tend to forget that when they are screaming about First Amendment rights and censorship.
When you start throwing around words such as pimping, whore, etc., you are making personal attacks or indulging in character assassination. These words carry a very negative connotation, whether you consider them slang or not. Speech can be harmful. It is a mistake to think you can use these words and not get a bad reaction to them no matter how much you excuse yourself with your rights to free speech. You may have the right to speak and use vulgar and foul language, but I certainly have the right to react and respond. That’s a concept many people just don’t grasp.
How so, Red?
My first reaction when I saw this was “How on earth would he know?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080210/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_19
Used to be that broadcast networks could lose their license if vulgar language was employed. That’s actually still the law, but it’s not used often enough, to my thinkin’.
US Television Network and Affiliates Fined for ‘Indecent’ Broadcast
There is a thing called “slander” and “defammation of character” that is supposed to protect people from such “free speech”. 200 years ago, the newspapers were full of slander and personal attacks. “Pimping” is softballing compared to what was printed in the past against candidates. Some of the stuff printed was absolutely horrible and obscene. The sedition act was passed to prevent such behavior.
Considering all the BS we hear from the Clintons, his apology should be sufficient.
I saved the local newspaper w/headlines and picture of Saddam from his hole in the ground. It may have even more historic value in the future when my great-granddaughter says, “Oh, THAT’S what a newspaper was.”
We need quality internet reporting such as Michelle provides for us. An added benefit is reading what others say in real time. That’s thought- provoking and not just provoking. Thanks, M.M.!
I can see why the Clintons would be upset about being accused of pimping. After all, how can you equate Billary with Arkansas state troopers, Secret Service agents or presidential staff? On the other hand, it certainly wouldn’t be beneath anybody in their family to pimp out a 20-year-old, now would it?
#60, if the powers that be will eat one of their own for “offending the status quot” then how much more will you be offensive to them?
Do you think that the same beast that beget McCain/Fiengold would suffer your thoughts, if spoken aloud? LOL!
Sorry if I misquote, someone wiser will correct me… the essence of freedom lies in the rights of those we find most odious.
So I guess Chelsea won’t be appearing on “Pimp My Ride” any time soon.
You’re a gramma – that’s not the oldest paper you’ve kept, is it?
I’ve invested in the TV Brick
I rarely watch the telly. For entertainment viewing there are so many good options. For news, there are also many good options. With internet video the options are amazingly expanded so that I’m a bit spoiled. I remember as a kid getting up in the morn and waiting for the test pattern to turn into my fave shows. And wrestling with the “rabbit ears” on a small B&W TV, lol.
How silly of you to forget, Michelle. It’s ok for the media to insult politicians and their families …
as long as it’s Republicans.
Michelle,
This, in my opinion, is among the most important kinds of posts you could run, and I mean that with all sincerity.
All,
I’ll repeat myself for the fun of it: Yes, conservatism has an enemy in the collective form of liberal democrats. But they would not be empowered or be a threat if it was not for the nearly universal bias toward them and prejudice against conservatives which has become the very definition of the mainstream media.
We all know the yardstick by which we get a perspective on this: reverse any should-be scandal for the democrats, imagine it to be one which can be applied to Republicans and imagine the outcry: Chinese money laundering; a crony, possibly lover of the first lady found dead in the woods with an unfound bullet through his brain the day the first lady’s part in a land scheme is revealed; a President dragging his late-teens girlfriend through the mud for an affair in the oval office and then having to admit it on prime-time television to the nation only when conclusive genetic evidence is found.
Does anyone think that if Hillary Clinton had been a conservative Republican and all that went down that she could credibly be a contender for President of the United Sates without the exceptionally able assistance of the mainstream media?
The fact that there is no outcry from the public does not mean that the public is bad – it means the public is busy. They have better things to do than talk about these things, remember and keep a full perspective. And those few who do on the conservative side are characterized by that very same press as “extremists”.
The real enemy of this country – and I say this with no melodrama attached – is the mainstream media. They have enabled one of the two political parties of this country to the point of revoking much of the public’s constitution rights, if not directly, through gentle helpings of sugar for the democrats and bitters for the Republicans.
And, truly, if we’re ever going to see a free America today that even remotely resembles what some of us vaguely recall from our earliest childhoods – an essentially good, optimistic place empowered to do good in the rest of the world – the media needs to be taken down however is possible – challenged directly, made irrelevant, have sponsorship funding yanked away by a deluge of angry protesters contacted their sponsors – whatever.
The best way it seems to me is for Michelle and her high-placed ilk to make more posts like this all the time. And for every blogger who posts, every participant on a message board, to make phrases like “and it wouldn’t be this way if it wasn’t for the mainstream media” an epilogue to every post they enter.
From my own experience on the inside, I can tell you that such a steady drumbeat – endless and relentless – will eventually catch on. It has to. If nothing else it will make guilty-minded media libs anxious to confront the drumbeat eventually, and once they do that, then the larger argument begins. Once that happens, we start to win significantly with the rest of the population.
So don’t be shy about blaming the media at the bottom of every post. It may seem repetitive to us, but it will eventually drive the media liberals crazy in a way which will be very good for our side. And it only takes an extra moment. So please do it.
I think the most cogent analysis of Shuster is that he had slandered Republicans and thought could slander anyone.
He found out that at MSNBC you can slander Republicans, but not Democrats.
Hey dakine and purple, you don’t even know what he said, you have not even looked at transcripts, he didn’t call anybodys daughter a whore, now you all are making things up!!! I love how you all are ready to judge a person and don’t even have an idea what you are talking about. HERE IT IS why don’t you try informing yourself before you start throwing stones. Nobody called anybody a Whore. I don’t see you two upset that Kieth Olbermann stated they were pimping out General David Patraeus I guess it is okay to suggest a Decorated Army General is being prositituted.
Show me where in this transcript David Shuster called Chelsea Clinton a Whore point it out to me. This is slang Pimp, Pimping, Pimped out, is used every day in the country. MTV Pimp my Ride. I don’t see anyone getting fired for repeating it if it so offensive.
Sources with Howard Kurtz today. Transcript follows…
KURTZ: The youngest member of the Clinton family has been slimed. In a discussion of Chelsea Clinton’s role in her mother’s presidential campaign this week, MSNBC correspondent David Shuster had this to say…
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DAVID SHUSTER, MSNBC: Chelsea is out there calling up celebrities saying, support my mom. And apparently she’s also calling the superdelegates.
Doesn’t it seem like Chelsea’s sort of being pimped out in some weird sort of way?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KURTZ: Pimped out? Excuse me? What an awful choice of words.
Marty Davis -Chickaboomer blog brought up something interesting in this discussion, she reminded me Joe Scarborough of Morning Joe, said about Fred Thompson’s wife “I wonder if she works the pole” as in a stripper pole. That is just as sexual as the pimped out comment by Shuster so how come Joe got off with an apology? How come he wasn’t fired or at least suspended? Someone at MSNBC like Phil Griffin didn’t want to fire him on the spot. If the person is a Republican it is okay to use any verbage you like for example, Fred Thompson’s wife or General David Patraeus but if it is a Democrat, it is a major media offense.
Laree…exactly. It’s “OK” to insult, demonize, destroy, smear Republicans, but when it comes to the precious Chelsea, who by the way is 27, not 13 anymore, it’s not fair game.
Just like the media was trying to paint the Bush twins early on as party girls (typical college behavior if you ask me). Finally, Laura Bush had to step in and tell them to lay off.
Democrats & their children: Hands off
Republicans & their children: Fair game
I think she might be talking about Mr. Bill O’Reilly as well.
Laree, “hoes” are the “product” that’s “pimped”. You don’t know that? That’s how the “business relationship” work. I’d be amazed if you had never heard about that.
At any rate, the language is shameful, especially so when used to attack someone. Even more so when it’s a employed to dis females.
The guy’s an uncouth misogynistic idiot; I won’t lose any sleep over him being sacked, even though it’s just a temporary sacking. You’re certainly more than welcome to worry about him, tho. But I’ll pass on that.
Actually, the correct phrasing is ‘whipped out his willie’.
With all due respect, Michelle, you’ve had several of your own “smug, thoughtless jerk” moments on cable news. Isn’t that what Fox News is all about? Seriously, don’t we love Sean Hannity and Bill O’Reilly specifically because they are “jerks.” I think they’d take it as a complement.
Maybe my crystal ball is getting foggy, but it seems to me that David Segal is on the brink of a “buh-bye” moment. You may be right or you may be wrong,Segal, that could be said to be subjective (I’d disagree). but what appears to be objective is that you’re one hell of a rude guest in someone else’s home, and I’d consider it not at all unfair if you were shown the door for that one.
So, what’s Caligula Clinton goin’ on about?
She has a mouth, that’d make a sailor blush.
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#69 I also have documents re the demise of a submarine in WWII. They are all on my computer to share. Gold Star Sister
#79,
You keep trying to make this personal and emotional. I don’t base my opinions on feelings. I “Think” Hillary Clinton is a United States Senator, that has a trend of insisting on people in the Media being fired or censured. Imus, Rush Limbaugh and now David Shuster who didn’t call anyone A Whore, you are deciding that subjectively because that is how you FEEL about it. As a representative in the Senate of the United States of America a sitting Senator, showing a trend of trying to control the press by demanding people be fired or censured, should alarm people.
There is a book out by Judge Napalitano it is titled “A Nation of Sheep” I am not among the sheep, willing to abdicate my freedoms in this country to satisfy the Speech Police.
You keep talking about Chelsea being insulted -offended. You NEVER reference two other examples, I gave eveyone of the Republicans being insulted and offended and nothing happening…Joe Scarborough about Fred Thompson’s wife “I wonder if she works the pole” the Pimping of General David Patraeus remark by Olbermann. This is selective outrage, This is a double standard….If it is a Democrat then it is the worse thing anyone has ever heard…if it happens to a Republican the Republicans are all told to lighten up.
I am done with this discussion. Before everyone thinks it is such a great idea that any member of our government can have someone in the press suspended or fired. They need to think about this David Shuster is a Liberal he pointed out what the Clinton’s were doing in their campaign. Next time someone in the Government can have someone you listen to for information, suspended or fired. This is why we have the 1st Amendment in the first place.
First they came for them, I did nothing, then they came for You and still I did nothing, Then they came for Me. A Nation of Sheep it is starting to shape up that way.
All I’m saying is that it’s silly for us all to pretend that we don’t like people acting like jerks. Come on – we love people acting like jerks. Why else do we watch Bill O’Reilly? Why do we love Michelle? Do we love Michelle because of all the nice things she says about people she doesn’t like? No, we love to see Michelle dressing down and demeaning the political news idiot of the day. Shuster talks about pimping Chelsea. So what? We’ve all laughed out loud at far worse every day right here on this website.
I had this thought I just posted on ICN. What do you think? We all know this is political but you know what there is another political component the Clintons don’t appear to be taking into account …the Obama component. There is a vunerablity in attacking MSNBC.
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Wait a minute what if someone gave a debate and nobody came? Debating only helps Hillary Clinton not Obama…so I can see MSNBC not wanting to loose the debate (ratings) But what if Obama said, you know what I’m done. Hillary doesn’t get to debate Obama anywhere including MSNBC. I think if I was the Clintons, I wouldn’t be breathing fire on MSNBC right now. What if Obama took this posture “I can’t appear on MSNBC and debate” after what transpired it would look as if I was Condoning their negative coverage towards the Clintons…oh the sword of damocles.
Here is the thing out of cable news outlets MSNBC leans the furthest left and would be the best format for Hillary Clinton to debate on. I don’t think it is smart to burn the MSNBC bridge.
The list is too long to even try to name them all in one place.
This is Marty on Pimp Gate.
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2008/02/pimp-gate.html
Apparently you can only be offended if you are a democrat.
Pimp Gate
NewsBusters unearths an old Olbermann chestnut where he insults Bush twins Jenna and Barbara in what NBC News prez Steve Capus would deem an “irresponsible and inappropriate” manner.
Olbermann does a nightly segment where he rips apart the Bush “gates”. Keith, the earth is scorched and cracked on your side of the fence.