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	<title>Comments on: Nanny Bloomberg calls for carbon tax at the U.N.</title>
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		<title>By: DaveC</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/11/nanny-bloomberg-calls-for-carbon-tax-at-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-329553</link>
		<dc:creator>DaveC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 00:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
“Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat’s dream. If you control carbon, you control life.” — MIT climate scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen, via Sen. James Inhofe’s website.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Carbon is now Spice..  

move through red tape without moving at all..</description>
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“Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat’s dream. If you control carbon, you control life.” — MIT climate scientist Dr. Richard Lindzen, via Sen. James Inhofe’s website.</p></blockquote>
<p>Carbon is now Spice..  </p>
<p>move through red tape without moving at all..</p>
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		<title>By: SHoward</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/11/nanny-bloomberg-calls-for-carbon-tax-at-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-242393</link>
		<dc:creator>SHoward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now Soap, you know Mars is our fault, too.

If we&#039;d stop launching all those darn probes there, we wouldn&#039;t be polluting their atmosphere as well. I mean we have had two electric probes running around there for....oh, wait.

Never Mind.

/sarc off</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Soap, you know Mars is our fault, too.</p>
<p>If we&#8217;d stop launching all those darn probes there, we wouldn&#8217;t be polluting their atmosphere as well. I mean we have had two electric probes running around there for&#8230;.oh, wait.</p>
<p>Never Mind.</p>
<p>/sarc off</p>
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		<title>By: drfredc</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/11/nanny-bloomberg-calls-for-carbon-tax-at-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-242331</link>
		<dc:creator>drfredc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole notion of a carbon tax seems to fly in the face of public domain and the takings clause.  CO2 has been in the public domain forever.  For governments to all of a sudden think they can take it under their own wings and subject it to taxation would seem to require government to pay the current owners of CO2 (aka everyone) for the right to take take away what up until now belonged to everyone.  Personally, I want my just compensation for taking of my CO2 rights.  Something like permanent relief from any regulation and taxation of C02 for me and my decendants would do.

Fine print...  What if it turns out that the earth is actually entering a cooling cycle, as several scientist claim there is evidence for.  Are government&#039;s then going to start paying everyone back their CO2 credits so everyone burns more CO2, drives bigger cars, etc, etc.  To help warm the earth?  Not on your life!  They&#039;ll continue to push this carbon tax and trade stuff.  Even when it makes no sense at all to do so.     

  Hence, carbon credits isn&#039;t about global warming -- it is really about finding a new way source of taxation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole notion of a carbon tax seems to fly in the face of public domain and the takings clause.  CO2 has been in the public domain forever.  For governments to all of a sudden think they can take it under their own wings and subject it to taxation would seem to require government to pay the current owners of CO2 (aka everyone) for the right to take take away what up until now belonged to everyone.  Personally, I want my just compensation for taking of my CO2 rights.  Something like permanent relief from any regulation and taxation of C02 for me and my decendants would do.</p>
<p>Fine print&#8230;  What if it turns out that the earth is actually entering a cooling cycle, as several scientist claim there is evidence for.  Are government&#8217;s then going to start paying everyone back their CO2 credits so everyone burns more CO2, drives bigger cars, etc, etc.  To help warm the earth?  Not on your life!  They&#8217;ll continue to push this carbon tax and trade stuff.  Even when it makes no sense at all to do so.     </p>
<p>  Hence, carbon credits isn&#8217;t about global warming &#8212; it is really about finding a new way source of taxation.</p>
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		<title>By: On-my-soap-box</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/11/nanny-bloomberg-calls-for-carbon-tax-at-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-242262</link>
		<dc:creator>On-my-soap-box</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Meanwhile, in Congress, the cap-and-trade charade moves forward. One Democrat says “there is a sense of inevitability.” Not if some Republicans can help it:&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Problem 1:  Some Repubs

Problem 2:  Another area where the Repubs will have NO BALLS.  They will give in when they see how much money it will involve and the ammount of pork that will line their pockets.

P.S. to all of you people who think GW is man made.  You must be mad as hell that it has become so bad that we are melting the polar ice caps on Mars as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Meanwhile, in Congress, the cap-and-trade charade moves forward. One Democrat says “there is a sense of inevitability.” Not if some Republicans can help it:</p></blockquote>
<p>Problem 1:  Some Repubs</p>
<p>Problem 2:  Another area where the Repubs will have NO BALLS.  They will give in when they see how much money it will involve and the ammount of pork that will line their pockets.</p>
<p>P.S. to all of you people who think GW is man made.  You must be mad as hell that it has become so bad that we are melting the polar ice caps on Mars as well.</p>
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		<title>By: WarTip</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/11/nanny-bloomberg-calls-for-carbon-tax-at-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-242025</link>
		<dc:creator>WarTip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, the time for the UN has come and gone. Why are these corrupt bureaucrats even getting funding from us, much less support? 

Second, why is a state official allowed to barter deals with foreign governments? Isn&#039;t there a little document called the constitution that forbids that? Rather like Burqa Pelosi in Syria, it seems there is something wrong with that picture.

Finally, even if global warming is real and is man made (Which I personally doubt) hasn&#039;t society survived through many such (mysteriously ... especially if it is man-made) REOCCURRING cycles throughout recorded history and always made it through to reflect on it at a later date? 

Also, if global warming is man made, that would explain some of the conspiracy theorists about the Mars missions as well I suppose eh? After all, global warming on Mars must be indicative of mankind being there too since we created the problems right? 

The Farmer&#039;s Almanac has accurately been predicting the weather since 1792 I think; based on solar flares and sun spots and other solar cycles. (Cycles: Meaning they repeat) It is strange how they have predicted so many cooling and warming trends, not to mention accurately predicting the weather based on something so far beyond human control eh? Couldn&#039;t be that they have such a good record because they are going right to the real source could it? 

Could it be that these are actually natural cycles based on historical realities far beyond the control of humans, which ironically, are then manipulated by humans in an effort to gain power and control by a select few over the rest of the said humans? 

No science involved? Top scientists agree? Like journalism, if science is based on facts it can only lead to one possible conclusion. Scientific &quot;THEORY&quot; is called theory because it cannot be proven. Facts lead to truth and not to consensus. It certainly should not lead us to the door of the UN with its UNAmerican leanings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, the time for the UN has come and gone. Why are these corrupt bureaucrats even getting funding from us, much less support? </p>
<p>Second, why is a state official allowed to barter deals with foreign governments? Isn&#8217;t there a little document called the constitution that forbids that? Rather like Burqa Pelosi in Syria, it seems there is something wrong with that picture.</p>
<p>Finally, even if global warming is real and is man made (Which I personally doubt) hasn&#8217;t society survived through many such (mysteriously &#8230; especially if it is man-made) REOCCURRING cycles throughout recorded history and always made it through to reflect on it at a later date? </p>
<p>Also, if global warming is man made, that would explain some of the conspiracy theorists about the Mars missions as well I suppose eh? After all, global warming on Mars must be indicative of mankind being there too since we created the problems right? </p>
<p>The Farmer&#8217;s Almanac has accurately been predicting the weather since 1792 I think; based on solar flares and sun spots and other solar cycles. (Cycles: Meaning they repeat) It is strange how they have predicted so many cooling and warming trends, not to mention accurately predicting the weather based on something so far beyond human control eh? Couldn&#8217;t be that they have such a good record because they are going right to the real source could it? </p>
<p>Could it be that these are actually natural cycles based on historical realities far beyond the control of humans, which ironically, are then manipulated by humans in an effort to gain power and control by a select few over the rest of the said humans? </p>
<p>No science involved? Top scientists agree? Like journalism, if science is based on facts it can only lead to one possible conclusion. Scientific &#8220;THEORY&#8221; is called theory because it cannot be proven. Facts lead to truth and not to consensus. It certainly should not lead us to the door of the UN with its UNAmerican leanings.</p>
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		<title>By: JHSII</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/11/nanny-bloomberg-calls-for-carbon-tax-at-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-241923</link>
		<dc:creator>JHSII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see two things here:

First) Bloomberg wants another hefty tax &lt;em&gt;he&#039;ll never have to pay&lt;/em&gt;. This is why all these billionaires always talk about how taxes aren&#039;t high enough - they never have to pay them.

Second) This is another reason I&#039;ll never vote for nor support McCain. I want a President who fights hard against the liberal global &quot;climate change&quot; hysteria.

To know that lgm supports so-called &quot;climate change science&quot; is enough to convince me that it&#039;s the usual lie and fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see two things here:</p>
<p>First) Bloomberg wants another hefty tax <em>he&#8217;ll never have to pay</em>. This is why all these billionaires always talk about how taxes aren&#8217;t high enough &#8211; they never have to pay them.</p>
<p>Second) This is another reason I&#8217;ll never vote for nor support McCain. I want a President who fights hard against the liberal global &#8220;climate change&#8221; hysteria.</p>
<p>To know that lgm supports so-called &#8220;climate change science&#8221; is enough to convince me that it&#8217;s the usual lie and fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: right_on</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/11/nanny-bloomberg-calls-for-carbon-tax-at-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-241840</link>
		<dc:creator>right_on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 20:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Among top scientists it’s 50 to one in favor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m curious, so enlighten me. Who are these 50 top scientists, and where can I validate this information you have provided? Are they all climatologists, or do they come from a variety of disciplines and just have an opinion?

My wife is a scientist, and is tops in her field. She is of the opinion that manmade climate change is nothing more than mis-informed, emotionally based opinion. 

Oh, and she is &lt;em&gt;NOT&lt;/em&gt; a climatologist, but she &lt;em&gt;IS a scientist&lt;/em&gt;  who relies on scientific research to formulate logical conclusions. Does her opinion count?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Among top scientists it’s 50 to one in favor.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m curious, so enlighten me. Who are these 50 top scientists, and where can I validate this information you have provided? Are they all climatologists, or do they come from a variety of disciplines and just have an opinion?</p>
<p>My wife is a scientist, and is tops in her field. She is of the opinion that manmade climate change is nothing more than mis-informed, emotionally based opinion. </p>
<p>Oh, and she is <em>NOT</em> a climatologist, but she <em>IS a scientist</em>  who relies on scientific research to formulate logical conclusions. Does her opinion count?</p>
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		<title>By: dan708</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/11/nanny-bloomberg-calls-for-carbon-tax-at-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-241835</link>
		<dc:creator>dan708</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U N your big ideas, Mr. Bloomerbutt! My freakin&#039; taxes are ALREADY TOO HIGH!!
In truth, we probably should be planning for an oil-free future, if only for security reasons. It would be nice if we could stop sending gobs of moolah to people that hate us. But when you propose a new wind farm, the bird lovers come out of the woodwork. I wish the lefties could make up their minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U N your big ideas, Mr. Bloomerbutt! My freakin&#8217; taxes are ALREADY TOO HIGH!!<br />
In truth, we probably should be planning for an oil-free future, if only for security reasons. It would be nice if we could stop sending gobs of moolah to people that hate us. But when you propose a new wind farm, the bird lovers come out of the woodwork. I wish the lefties could make up their minds.</p>
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		<title>By: wrcnossen</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/11/nanny-bloomberg-calls-for-carbon-tax-at-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-241823</link>
		<dc:creator>wrcnossen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a clear, concise answer to global warming:

SHUT THE HECK UP AND LEAVE ME ALONE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a clear, concise answer to global warming:</p>
<p>SHUT THE HECK UP AND LEAVE ME ALONE!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul-Cincy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/11/nanny-bloomberg-calls-for-carbon-tax-at-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-241817</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul-Cincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;lgm said: 
Among top scientists it’s 50 to one in favor. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

If so, one may still ask:

- what % of warming is caused by man
- how much can man help it (2%, 1%, 0.1%, 0.01%, less?)
- what are the economic (i.e. human) costs of the help in the above line and are they worth it
- is the current global warming a bad thing

If we can cut global warming 0.01% by inflicting significant human suffering ... then that&#039;s not worth it, in my mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>lgm said:<br />
Among top scientists it’s 50 to one in favor. </p></blockquote>
<p>If so, one may still ask:</p>
<p>- what % of warming is caused by man<br />
- how much can man help it (2%, 1%, 0.1%, 0.01%, less?)<br />
- what are the economic (i.e. human) costs of the help in the above line and are they worth it<br />
- is the current global warming a bad thing</p>
<p>If we can cut global warming 0.01% by inflicting significant human suffering &#8230; then that&#8217;s not worth it, in my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: right_on</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/11/nanny-bloomberg-calls-for-carbon-tax-at-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-241803</link>
		<dc:creator>right_on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R-i-i-i-g-h-t...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R-i-i-i-g-h-t&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: lgm</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/11/nanny-bloomberg-calls-for-carbon-tax-at-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-241788</link>
		<dc:creator>lgm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lindzen is the only top climate scientist who is skeptical about global warming.  
Among top scientists it&#039;s 50 to one in favor.  Among second stringers there are a few more skeptics.  You have to get down to lower tiers and conservative funded think tanks to get any real numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindzen is the only top climate scientist who is skeptical about global warming.<br />
Among top scientists it&#8217;s 50 to one in favor.  Among second stringers there are a few more skeptics.  You have to get down to lower tiers and conservative funded think tanks to get any real numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: right_on</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/11/nanny-bloomberg-calls-for-carbon-tax-at-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-241775</link>
		<dc:creator>right_on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does any elected official have the guts to insert language into any &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;proposed legislation&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt; that &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;penalizes those whose dire predictions prove to be wrong&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;?

How about something like &lt;em&gt;&quot;If what &lt;strong&gt;is&lt;/strong&gt; stated (about climate change/ global warming)as factual and true, and turns out to be false, those making the false statements shall be fined a monetary penalty equal to the amount lost in economic growth, or will forgo all federal pensions earned, or will forfeit all assets accumulated during the period affected.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Let them put their money where their mouth is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does any elected official have the guts to insert language into any <em><strong>proposed legislation</strong></em> that <em><strong>penalizes those whose dire predictions prove to be wrong</strong></em>?</p>
<p>How about something like <em>&#8220;If what <strong>is</strong> stated (about climate change/ global warming)as factual and true, and turns out to be false, those making the false statements shall be fined a monetary penalty equal to the amount lost in economic growth, or will forgo all federal pensions earned, or will forfeit all assets accumulated during the period affected.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Let them put their money where their mouth is!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul-Cincy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/11/nanny-bloomberg-calls-for-carbon-tax-at-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-241756</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul-Cincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I add ... NUCLEAR POWER! Let&#039;s do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I add &#8230; NUCLEAR POWER! Let&#8217;s do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul-Cincy</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/11/nanny-bloomberg-calls-for-carbon-tax-at-the-un/comment-page-1/#comment-241755</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul-Cincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle, this is the new war front. This is it. The Global Warming crap, and taxing carbon. No doubt about it. What&#039;s FUNNY (?!) is that it&#039;s mostly based in psychology not science. It&#039;s based on how the mind of a liberal works. And McCain&#039;s mind is right there too with the libs. &quot;What if global warming is real and we do nothing?&quot;, he asks. Like that&#039;s an affirmative argument? It&#039;s not. Sure, energy efficiency is good. But taxing carbon? Energy prices will be high enough without that. This is the fight of the decade, a fight for our lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle, this is the new war front. This is it. The Global Warming crap, and taxing carbon. No doubt about it. What&#8217;s FUNNY (?!) is that it&#8217;s mostly based in psychology not science. It&#8217;s based on how the mind of a liberal works. And McCain&#8217;s mind is right there too with the libs. &#8220;What if global warming is real and we do nothing?&#8221;, he asks. Like that&#8217;s an affirmative argument? It&#8217;s not. Sure, energy efficiency is good. But taxing carbon? Energy prices will be high enough without that. This is the fight of the decade, a fight for our lives.</p>
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