Sorry, I didn’t come back to this thread earlier.

I hear what you’re saying and I’m very sorry that happened to your child. However, in this Jacksonville case, it was strictly a discipline issue. Also being a military family, we move and encounter these types of teachers all the time. My oldest daughter has come home since she was in middle school and told me how she was the only one who “voted” for Bush or that everyone else said they hated Bush. Of course, when she would ask “why”, none of them could give an answer beside ” I don’t know, I just hate him” or ” my parents can’t stand him”. Way to raise those kids to think for themselves! I would have had to give that teacher a swift kick…not literally of course.

Since it is a small town, yesterday at school was very hard for those two guys, yet they took the ribbing and humiliation without saying a word. I doubt that those two will ever do something like that again. Yet, they do know that redemption is available. We have not “kicked” them off the archery team (the practice that they were coming to) and they know that no one is “mad” at them.

As the sheriff let them know quite clearly, what they did was arson and they could be spending time in a YDC for what amounted to a 5 sec “brain freeze”. But,sometimes, consequences are humiliating enough to get the point across without the scarring that a “record” can cause.

I was a rather rebellious kid, my childhood was not ideal by any stretch of the imagination. My mom didn’t discipline us because she grew up in a strict household and didn’t want to pass that on to her children. Big mistake. Eventually, I turned out ok (I think! ) but it was a long and arduous road I traveled because of that lack of discipline.

There are boundaries and discipline is a duty that a parent must not shirk. These cute kids turn into adults and how you raise them as kids is paramount to how successful they become later in life. Kudos to the mom in the article for a job well done.

On February 11th, 2008 at 7:40 pm, Leatherneck said: In the New World Order you do whatever feeeeeelllsss good.

Wrong! Dissent is only allowed UNTIL the New World Order. Once these people have their socialist utopia, the dissenters (read: Useful idiots) have historically been the first ones lined up on the firing wall… Quite Literally!

Freaking old hippy never did get it. She wanted me to PUNISH him for not agreeing with her. I f’n made him a CAKE. Literally.

Right on! Punishment does not work without rewards and his actions definitely warranted a reward!

She yelled and screamed at him about how he could support such horrible things as baby killers.

Which is especially ironic considering the Democrat’s most important sacrament – abortion.

But, I digress.

On February 11th, 2008 at 5:52 pm, navywife91 said:

I think it’s pretty safe to say this 8 year old’s teacher wasn’t doing any indoctrination. However, I do have a high school freshman who encounters political conversations in one of her classes. It’s very obvious to her what side her teacher is on, but I tell her it’s fine to have a debate as long as it’s done in a respectful way.

Don’t be so sure about that… 4 years ago during the 2004 election my son’s 4th grade teacher (he was only 9 yo) ran a mock election in the classroom. He was the only person that ’stood up for his beliefs’ about supporting the troops in Iraq (his dad’s a Marine… err.. what else would you expect) and he backed a Republican candidate throughout the ‘mock’ process. She was a Kerry supporter from the get go. She yelled and screamed at him about how he could support such horrible things as baby killers. In the end he was the ONLY kid in class who voted against Kerry. She shunned him for the rest of the school year.

Freaking old hippy never did get it. She wanted me to PUNISH him for not agreeing with her. I f’n made him a CAKE. Literally.

I was sooooo glad she retired so my daughter didn’t get stuck with her this year.

My dad took the door off the hinges. It was only for a week or so. But it got the point across. ”

This is slightly off topic, but the door removal trick also works with nonpaying renters: a friend of mine simply took the front door off the apartment he was renting. Told the miscreants that he didn’t have the money to “fix” the door because they didn’t pay their rent.

The rent got paid. The door got “fixed.” I still laugh about it.

Start early

Every thing secular humanists teach our children is not what G-d told us what to do with our children.

There will be more school shootings, more children giving birth, and more drug abuse, and more individuals growing up not understanding right from wrong.

In the New World Order you do whatever feeeeeelllsss good.

On February 11th, 2008 at 3:25 pm, Bob69 said:

Shame and guilt are a definite improvement over physical abuse. Only the pysc crowd are concerned about the ‘mental aspects’ of holding a damn sign.

Sorry Bas***ds.

Im a psych major and don’t agree with Hunziker one bit. Not all shrinks agree as a matter of fact and you’ll find many aren’t so stuck on the “soft” approach to punishment.

In response to the article/parent…

I quite agree with what this parent did and would do it/have done similar with my own children. And as someone mentioned, its a lot better than beating the heck out of their child, and a lot less demeaning than making a child wear a sigh saying they are “a pig” for eating some brownies they weren’t supposed to have.

I think this was a more positive approach encouraging discipline and responsibility. I recall when our schools would do similar punishment however not by use of signs but putting a “dunce” hat on the child or they would have to stand at the chalkboard with their nose to the board. Its just as effective and most kids didn’t act out again or pulled the same stunt again.

It worked. The article said something about disciplining your kids without “fear of reprisals”. From whom?

Some porn addict in open-toed shoes from Yale?