When is it okay to wear a “Nigger” t-shirt?
Classy. (Photo source: hiphop.popcrunch.com)
When is it okay to wear a “Nigger” t-shirt?
Permission is granted…
1) When you’re a wealthy black rapper strutting down the red carpet at the Grammys, looking for some cheap publicity for your gawd-awful album of the same name.
2) When you’re the eptihet-screaming wife of above-mentioned rapper.
3) When you can give some nauseatingly p.c. rationalization for using a Forbidden Epithet by explaining that you are simply “reclaiming” the word for self-empowerment.
Hey, didn’t the NAACP “bury” the n-word last summer?
I agree with the commenters below: Kelis’s pants are the most obscene thing of all in that picture.
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I guess big Al said it was okay…
Gosh, conehead, cracker, white bread, just don’t seem to have the ring to it as the N word. Guess it is ok to use it then if you are one of the chosen by Rev Al
Ya know, I was shaking my head when Hillary suggested seizing the profits of the oil companies… but wouldn’t it be a hoot if a candidate suggested seizing the profits of Hollywood & the record companies.
We should do it for the children.
niggar
ngr
nggrr
nigity
nig nig
nigg
I’m sorry. He sounds like an ignorant fool! He doesn’t know what he’s talking about. It sounds as if he got part of the Dem talking points, but never read them completely. Black people won’t be able to vote? Soldiers getting their heads blown off for, I don’t know? Hellllloooooooo, Nas!!!!!
The word is trash no matter how you try to spin it. I wonder what Nas would do if some white guy came up to him and said the word printed on his shirt?
ROTFLMAO!
I’m with you brooklynred!
Pssst… what does rotflamo mean anyhow?
rolling on the floor laughing my %ss off
It took me a while to figure it out too.
Another example of “free speech for me but none for thee”.
Oh, thanks for that info… glad you liked it, but it wasn’t a joke.
Hit em on the left flank… surely these people contribute less to society than the oil companies…
Yes! “For the children”, like brooklynred said.
Just don’t violate the double-standard on the use of the formerly buried n-word. Geez.
I don’t mind the shirt. It’s those pants she is wearing.
My eyes – my eyes. My head…my poor brain…
Brain douche – stat
Oh, I figured you were serious, which is why I agree with you.
I teach at an inner city school and I get irate when I hear the word. After two years of harping and charging 25 cents for every violation I rarely hear it-in fact the other students now chastise the offenders. Now if I can only reach the pregnant 13 yo’s.
How about reclaiming the word “niggardly”, or the word “noose” or the word “lynch” in their original denotative meaning and not firing or harassing people who use these words in every day conversation?
That would be a refreshing change of pace.
Awwww man!!! He took my idea. I was going to write an album of that name. The free publicity would be unprecedented. I guess I’m just going to have to stick to a book of that name.
I am really offended that Americans ‘free speech’ can’t use that word. It’s just race hustling. I have always thought it was dumb to reduce racism down to a word.
Would you rather someone never say that word yet would never consider a black person as ‘equal citizen’ a non-racist? Or would you rather someone use that word and hang out and give opportunities to blacks?
I’ve always thought that the demonization of that word was a blight on our community. The demonization of the word is more of a blight than the use of the word. It’s a media thing. . . and a misunderstanding of the language thing.
That word was more descriptive than anything. People in the south used it not as derogatory, but as descriptive. They started changing it to ‘colored’ (as a descriptive term) and then that was offensive. . . then it was ‘black’ and that was offensive to many too – though it is still used often (black congressional caucus, black entertainment television). . . and now it is ‘african american’. But all of these terms including the N word serve to do the same thing. . . identify a group of people.
I never understood how saying ‘african american’ was any different than using the ‘n’ word because it means the same thing.
It’s all just race baiting and the white community falling all over itself to apologize for no real reason.
I agree with Soap – those pants are obscene.
and while I’m feelin jiggy bout it… Do the makers of “Grand Theft Auto” have a right to make millions while children are suffering?
We should take the profits of game makers too… are they not enemies of the people!
I actually always thought it was for the region that they came from. . . Like ‘Africa’, they came from Nigeria.
People from Scotland are called Scots.
I never considered it to be derogatory until people started to demonize those who used it. 20 years ago in the South it was fairly common and you didn’t think anything of it really. More times than not, it wasn’t used in a derogatory fashion, just descriptive. . . that ‘white guy’ over there = that n over there.
SpandeXXX
My dad still calls Asians ‘Chinamen’. Again, I never considered it derogatory and still don’t. He was just trying to describe the person by saying where they were from. I imagine ‘Chinaman’ is derogatory too.
My answer to Michelle’s question is “never”.
And are we sure those are pants? They look like paint.
Uh, Thacker…you’re kidding, right? Your stuff is usually pretty well thought out, but that last post was one of the more ignorant comments I’ve seen around here in quite some time.
soap, I believe hell has frozen over. Your comment on those pants was absolutely hilarious…that was my very first thought as well when I saw that picture.
I’ve got a new name for that look.
STUPID
Sorry, forgot to check with the politiburo, I CAN still say stupid, right?
And isn’t it about time for the Spandex Police?
That was clearly a misdemeanor, as opposed to leopard spots, a felony of course!
No dakine, I’m not kidding. I never considered any of these words to be derogatory. . . only descriptive. We talk in descriptive terms a lot in the South, and generally the descriptions are based on where the people are from. ‘Yankees’ et al.
‘Africanized bees’ are generally considered dangerous and needing to be destroyed. Yet somehow ‘African American’ is less offensive? It does the same thing with language as the ‘N’ word, it describes a person.
The global outrage over a word has always confused me. I never cared whether anyone called me anything. That’s for them to do. I don’t understand why anyone else cares what people call them.
Well frankly… I think some african-americans are ‘niggers’. And I don’t mean that in a positive way.
Kinda like us crackas. Some are a$$hats… some aren’t. Some blacks are niggas… some aren’t. It’s not a color thing. It’s an attitude thing.
But that outfit? OMG is that ugly. I know a few women who could have pulled it off and only looked like a ‘ho. Kelis looking like an UGLY ‘ho.
For example. . . the press loves to call people ‘evangelical’ (I’d probably be included in the press’ definition of ‘evangelical’). I think that’s stupid because it isn’t descriptive, but I’m not offended that they use improper language when referring to people. We are ‘Christian’. But the press can use whatever descriptive word they want. . . and they do.
To: TheSev,
“clown gear” is the term…
jus sayin
No hypocrisy here!
PC is okay!
Velcome to Amerika!
Land of the Free for Me but NOT for Thee!
The top story here, in my opinion, is that he apparently believes that black people’s voting rights expire in 23 years. That’s sad.
Identity politics…? How precious!
I hate to keep posting here, but I keep having points to make.
The reason the distinction of ‘Christian’ is important to me is because in the Bible it says ‘you will know them because they will bear My name’ ‘Christ’ians = followers of Christ.
Evangelical = evangel followers? It’s just Biblically wrong, inaccurate, and it’s as offensive to me as the ‘n’ word should be to ‘African Americans’. . . although ‘African Americans’ are mostly ‘evangelical’ (according to the press) too. Even though blacks weren’t generally included in the exit polls declaring the ‘evangelical vote’.
Words and the English language is strange.
Thacker… this time I have to disagree with you. Christian and Evangelical Christians are NOT interchangeable words.
Evangelical
capitalized : of, adhering to, or marked by fundamentalism :
Fundamentalist
1 a often capitalized : a movement in 20th century Protestantism emphasizing the literally interpreted Bible as fundamental to Christian life and teaching b: the beliefs of this movement c: adherence to such beliefs
2: a movement or attitude stressing strict and literal adherence to a set of basic principles
Merriam Webster.
You can be a Christian without being an Evangelical OR a Fundamentalist.
Nigger, in this context, has got to be a brand name, right? This has to be a NASwear product or some nonsense like that. There is only one reason to call attention to yourself like that: money.
And rocking the gold lame stretchy pants with a booty that’s losing the gravity battle doesn’t even qualify for the money reason. It’s like staring at an accident. Makes you wonder what it looks like from the front.
No, no it doesn’t. Talk about verbal ipecac. Sorry.
3steps, but isn’t it fundamental to believe that Jesus is God?
So to be Christian, you have to believe that Jesus is God. So if you believe Jesus is God you would therefore be ‘evangelical’ which would include EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN (including Catholics) because to be a Christian you must believe that Jesus is God.
Muslims ‘believe’ in Jesus too. The difference is that they don’t believe that Jesus is God.
Evangelical is a poor descriptive term. To evangelize means to preach the Gospel. Every Christian would have to be ‘evangelical’ which makes the descriptive term of ‘evangelical’ irrelevant.
I am a Christian and I believe every word of the Bible.
You guys aren’t seriously defending the use of this word are you. Tell you what Thacker, since people shouldn’t take offense at being called historically hateful terms, why don’t you head on down to your nearest inner city and call the fellas hanging out on the street corner that innocent word. Or maybe I’ll call up my Vietnamese immigrant mother-in-law tonight and casually refer to her as a “gook”. She’ll take that pretty well I’m sure. Unbelievable.
Sigh… as long as they are happy together.
Thnaks, now I have to go wash my eyes.
I don’t have to ‘go’ anywhere. I’m not like the ivory tower people. My town is about 50% black (do the math and include hispanics and asians and we have less than 50% whites – do I get minority scholarship?). I have always had black neighbors. . . all of my life. We have a female black mayor, police chief, etc. etc. My mom was a guidance counselor for 30 years in a middle school helping inner city blacks.
Being upset at a word ignores the actual problems that need to be addressed within the community.
Who the heck are these low-life’s anyway? I mean, had they not worn those repugnant shirts and half the world supply of gold lame`, would anyone even know who they were in the first place?
And what is Al Sharpton going to use for shower curtains now that she used his for those pants anyway?
How sad. What a sorry sight they are. Selfish, pathetic, clueless.
Okay then Thacker. So all these various folks are good with you referring to them by ethnic slurs? BTW, does your dad refer to Asians from say, Vietnam as Chinamen. They all look alike, right?
To answer the question the title of the post asks, Never … unless you want to unequivocally prove to the world that you are an ignorant, bigoted multi-millionaire that has lost touch with reality and couldn’t find a clue if it was written in graffiti on the wall of your mansion. I’d say mission accomplished.
As for the pants … I just had an eye appointment today. I felt like my sight was going downhill and the doctor proved me right. Thank God my new glasses won’t come in for a week and that pic is fuzzy. Just sayin.
Al Sharpton, where are you?
*Crickets…
I was substituting in an urban NJ high school last week. The students were researching candidates on the internet. Obama was the big topic. One student pulled up a election related web site in Spanish. A girl said “I speak two languages. Black and nigger.”
I asked her what she meant. “I mean nigger.” she replied. “Negro?”, I said. “Nigger!” she said, “And you can’t say it, and I don’t like you saying ‘negro’ either. I ain’t no negro slave.”
“But ‘negro’ is an honorable term.” I said. “Like in the Negro College Fund, the Negro Leagues …”
“You better not say that word ‘negro’, you giving me a headache. It’s a bad word, a nasty word.” said another girl.
Evidently in this generation ‘negro’ is a bad word and ‘nigger’ is a good word — at least if you are young and ….
What word should I use? I have no idea!
The next day in a math class, at the end of the period as the class wound down the boys were talking basketball. I asked if anyone knew who the 7’7″ college player on UNC was. The ** boys didn’t know. A white boy did, “Why thats so-and-so, but he’s on NC State, not UNC.” One of the ** boys asks him, “Is he white?” The white boy is perplexed he doesn’t know how to answer.
The ** boy follows up “What *race* is he, can’t you say?” The white boy whispers, in the most cautious quiet whisper you can hear — “He’s …black…”
The ** boy laughs! “You can’t say *black*??!! Man that’s something.”
Nigger: (n) One who niggs…one who engages in the act of nigging
“Hey,dude….stop nigging around and get with the program.”
‘That guy niggs more than anybody I know”
The problem is not the word.
The problem is socio-politica/economic and its been created by horrifically irresponsible leaders in the black community and their general resistance to teaching right from wrong well enough that it sticks, willingly aided and abetted by a politically correct mainstream media that has made the word “off limits” in violation of the first amendment.
The word should be used historically, but even in that context you find timid people on-camera using the incredibly childish phrase “the N-word”. No, “Nigger” is a word, a real word, but a gross and dishonorable word. Almost as real, gross and dishonorable to the power-mad inner city black leaders who would lead us to this kind of socio-political precipice.
The NAACP was going to have to dig up the “N” word. It will be around as long as people like this idiot rapper are around. What other description would fit him as well?
We are giving them much more attention than they deserve…
Mr. Kotter! Mr. Kotter! I believe the answer is that it’s OK when the circumference of one’s ass exceeds one’s IQ.
Damn…. best way to describe this?
Twenty pounds of a heaping steaming pile in a 10 pound bag.
It is never OK to say the N word.
Ever.
No matter what race.
I encourage people not to say it.
The 1st Amendment prevents me from not allowing them to say it. But that doesn’t mean that it is OK to choose to say it!
Some may wonder why the “white man” cares so much. Truth be told, it’s not just white people wondering why we say it so often. Many African Americans are against the use of this word! Please don’t paint African Americans with such a broad brush when it comes to this word usage. It’s historical connotation provides the negativity that surrounds it. IMO, the word should remain just that… a part of history.
Nas could have created a different title (originally he had a different title in mind, IIRC).
The above picture is ironic considering that Nas has made some songs that encourage the empowerment and betterment of African Americans throughout the country.
A thorough explination is necessary.
Perhaps Ms. Malkin can ask Nas the reason for this title?
I remember those songs .oO
Backlash
Don’t you know that only white people can be racist, thus Al Sharptongue and Jesse Hijacksomone aren’t anywhere to be found.
Maybe I’m behind on my civics or I missed something but what the heck was he talking about Black people not voting for 23 years???
Can someone please enlighten me on that subject?
In truth, a ban on any word is just an invitation for the next variant or euphemism — for exactly the same concept — to emerge and be banned itself in turn. If you wish to test this assertion yourself, please apply the [currently innocent and made-up] term ‘melanocyter’.
It’s never okay. It’s a disgusting word, same as profanity, always has been, always will be.
And it is not synonymous with African-American. It is employed as a term of derogation. According to the Jim Crow Museum of Racist Memorabilia out of Ferris State University in Michigan:
more info here
I second englishqueen01, who said:
THAT would mean sanity prevails.
that’s the name of Nas’ new album also. I wonder what the commercials will say.
This just proves one thing: stay in school!
Why is NIGGER held to be worse word than using God’s name in vain?
Why is NIGGER held to be worse word than calling for the death of our military?
Why is NIGGER held to be worse word than calling for the death of the president of the USA?
Why is NIGGER held to be worse word than all the blasphemy said against Jesus Christ, God Almighty & Christianity?
I don’t see everytime you use the word NIGGER it is hate. How can you know my intents? I use the word NIGGER just to piss off NIGGERS cuz they use the race card to be all high & mighty. I’m using NIGGER here to make a point, not hate. Blacks use the word NIGGER as a tool against those they HATE. If they like you, you can use NIGGER all day long.
Boy, you must feel like a big, brave man after posting that.
You mean like redneck, hick, hillbilly, or backwoods?
Yeah, I’d love to see people stop using ethnopaulisms. I know it will never happen, but it would be nice.
Dang – I learn something new all the time in these parts! I think, just by a quick google look-see, that an alternate spelling might be “ethnophaulisms”.
Another sad result of this further commercial use of the word is that will be foisted even more on the ears of black children.
namvet527 you bring disrepute to the community of commenters here. Disgusting
I also find it disturbing that Jesus Christ was tossed into the comment. Doesn’t help His image at all.
Where are the justice brothers on this one? Where’s the outrage from the MSM? Just wondering……
I use lots of words that people find “offensive”. As if their right to feel insulted superceded my right to free speech.
I had to look it up, but he’s blathering about the Voting Rights Act, originally passed during the civil rights era in ’65, but set to expire in 2007. It was renewed for 25 years in 2006, but the right of African-Americans (oh, let us be PC) to vote is guaranteed by the Fifteenth Amendement to the U.S. Constitution, which, of course, doesn’t expire.
I wouldn’t call this urban myth “sad.” It’s blatant, willful ignorance of the manufactured shoulder-chip variety.
Hey, why let old wounds heal, when they can so easily be rubbed raw for profit or politics? /sarc
ethnophaulisms?
Wow.
And I thought I was ready for Jeopardy! Shame on me for such tomfoolery.
Sure glad Dakine knows what offensive is and can define it for all of the rest of it.
I think I’ve relayed this before – but when I was in HS, I was a track athlete. I’m as Caucasian as they come. Another top runner from my state was not. We attended different schools – competed against each other – but were friends. One big invitational meet at Detroit Central HS – my friend/competitor and I went off to warm up together running through the neighborhoods. Here is this “white boy” running through neighborhoods where he is very much an outsider. The exact words coming from my friend as we ran around a playground on that Saturday are as follows : “Don’t worry ’bout the honky, he’s with the nigger”.
Did people find that set of words offensive? I didn’t, the kids in the neighborhood, nor did my friend. Only Dakine would – he’s a victim.
ugh…next to last line change to read, …the kids in the neighborhood didn’t, nor…
DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO
We agree on something – hell has frozen over the day you can’t find it in your heart to do more than insult me.
I am glad I made you laugh. My goal is to make you go away.
Agreed…. to evangelize means to preach the gospel. I don’t preach. That doesn’t mean I don’t believe.
I am a Christian and I do NOT believe every word of the Bible.
The bible was written by MEN. Not by God. Fundamentalists believe LITERALLY word for word. I once asked a Fundamentalist about Genesis. Specifically the Creation. And she assured me that God created the earth in 7 days. Ok… So I ask… how long is a day for God? 7 24 hour days she tells me… THAT’S WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS. Well frankly… I’ve read Genesis dozens of times.. I didn’t see 24 hour days in there anywhere.
That was however the beginning of the end of a long and close friendship. Shortly thereafter she explained to me that her Pastor told her she didn’t need friends like me. Only friends that were members of the same church. As only Fundamentalist Baptists are going to heaven. The rest of us heathen Protestants or heaven forbid Catholics were going to h311 because we didn’t take the book literally enough.
So… I’m guessing you are of the same mold as she. And I’m going to tell you the same thing I told her. Christian is as Christian does. And I’m sure I’ll see her in heaven.. although I’m sure she won’t see me. As obviously her heaven doesn’t include non-fundamentalists.
YUP… the Rev Al makes his living off it.
Not that I want to argue or thread-jack but:
Genesis 1:5
God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
Genesis 1:8
God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
Genesis 1:13
And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
Genesis 1:19
And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
Genesis 1:23
And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
Genesis 1:31
God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
When was the last time there was evening and morning with MORE that 24 hours?
I hope this helps.
Christians are supposed to believe every word of of the Bible. Yes it says in 2nd Peter that a day to the Lord is a thousand years and a thousand years to the Lord is a day. in 2nd Timothy the Word says in ch 3 verse 16 and 17 “All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work”. We are to believe every word and a true Christain can’t help but to tell others of the wonderful news of Christ no matter what our spiritial gifts are.
I was thinking about getting a shirt with MM’s great picture of McCain, and have the words: “Studgy Old White Honkey”
That’s always puzzled me: why did God take six days to create the universe? He could have done it in a split second, he’s omnipotent.
If the crapper, uh, I mean rapper, and his beyaatch have to explain that it is a statement and not a label, I think that it really defaults to a label.
The spray on pants just reinforce the lack of class. Looks like two bags of gold cauliflower. Ick.
Time for a brainwipe.
Mister P
Spew warning would have been nice – LOL
GOD can do everything in a slpit second. Should HE? GOD created a patern of us to live by: 6 days work, 7th dat rest. Same for the fields we plant: work them 6 years and on the 7th year, let them rest.
Against majority opinion here, I must say that the pants on the lady are awesome.
I just wish the pic was bigger.
matty,
ROFL
If they were magnified, you might see a picture of Je$$ie Jack$son’$ face there somewhere.
I despise that word. I don’t speak it, I don’t let my kids speak it, and over the years, even my somewhat racist inlaws have learned not to speak it (at least in my presence.)
I think it looks just as bad printed on a shirt and sounds even worse coming from the mouth of a black man who should have more pride and respect in his race. If blacks want to know what’s ruining their culture, they don’t have to look at white people, they just need to take a glance at NAS’s shirt or listen to any rap album these days.
If only more people listened to Bill Cosby. *sigh*
yes, exactly.
by whom? Not I, certainly. I can be a patriot and a Christian as well as someone who disdains the use of vile, hateful language. They’re not mutually exclusive.
You’re not even making sense here. And exactly how many blacks do you know – and I don’t mean know as in “the guy at the gas station you say hi to whenever you fill up” – I mean, people with whom you break bread regularly, or with whom you worship regularly? Decent, educated black folk disdain such language, no matter who is using it.
Galatians 3:28 says “There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus.” If you are going to profess faith in our Lord and Savior, you might consider taking these words to heart before the next time you
p.s. PurplePeep, you are correct, ethnophaulisms is indeed the proper spelling. Sorry.
When someone refers to Yamahas as “Jap bikes” (I am 50% ethnic Japanese), it sort of rubs me the wrong way, but then I think of the jackass who uttered the phrase, and it makes perfect sense and I feel better.
spidgy, that’s what my better half says. Consider the source.
If I like rap music, can I ask for the album in my music store by name?
This is embarrassing. It’s my company that makes that shirt. Unfortunately, we misspelled Niger.
Sorry folks.
Well hell box…we have something else in common. My goal is to make you go away as well. Your post above about the bible and creation reveals much. Hard to engage in intelligent discussion regarding any topic with someone who actually believes the universe was created in 6 days by an invisible supernatural being who controls every aspect of our lives.
So conRus, cutting through your attempt to be clever and polemic, do you actually believe that it would generally be considered inoffensive for a white person to refer to a black person as a “nigger”? I’m no victim. I’m a 47 year old WASP in the top 1% of the socio-economic hierarchy. I will tell you though that my Vietnamese born wife would be pretty damn offended if you referred to her as a “gook”. MDH3 nailed it…there are words with venom and hate inherent in their usage. BTW, how do you feel about namvet’s post?
5watt ignorance alert!!!
Shows what you know about GOD. HE does NOT control us. HE gave us a free will. But you know all about GOD – well you and SouthernBoy.
Maybe 5watts is giving you too much credit. You’re showing how dim you really are.
Sorry, he gave you free will, but he cares about every aspect of your life…my bad. But he did create the universe in 6 24 hour periods, right? BTW, I know about as much about your god as I do the easter bunny, santa, the Loch Ness monster, bigfoot, etc.
BINGO
HE gave you a free will too and HE cares about every aspect of YOUR life as well.
BINGO again. Your bad because you choose to write HIM off but, it is NOT HIS choice.
BINGO in triplicate. You admit your ignorance about GOD. So, how is it you can even have an opinion about what HE has or will do.
It is no reach for me to believe GOD created everything in 6 literal days. It is more of a reach to believe that there are billions of different DNA chains and they all formed without any help (by random chance) in a few billion years to give us the variety of life (or even just the variety of differences in humans) we see today. Just a simple study of DNA puts “random chance” where it belongs – in the toilet.
Is this the same dakine who claimed several days ago to be a “traditional conservative” in his back and forth with me? Out of his own mouth he shows his true colors…ha…I love it!
God bless you, buddy!
right_on, traditional conservative in the Barry Goldwater vein buddy. You seem like a smart guy, so I’m sure you realize that it’s possible to be a conservative without being a Christian or a member of any organized religion. FWIW, I’m a fiscal conservative, an old-school conservative regarding matters of foreign policy/national defense (strong military, but judicious use of same with an avoidance of pre-emptive wars) and a libertarian on most social/cultural issues. Okay with you?