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how in the hell will we afoard to build and MAINTIAN A wall of that size and all along the border

Have you taken your medication today?

And most cops I’ve meet have been on the take on one form or another.

Not all cops are on the take or corrupt but what does all that have to do with a dual layered border fence that would be enforced by the BP?

If you looked at any of my other posts on the proposed border fence you would know it is not a wall even though you keep comparing it to the Berlin Wall.

As for proof, I suggest you do some research by doing a google and look it up yourself. The facts are all over the internet. A good place to start is Duncan Hunter’s website.

After all, you think I am on the take and corrupt so why would you believe anything I post.

I happen to also have seen police response times, my step father used to work for the school system when I was growing up and when the alarm was set off the alarm dispatch always Called two people, The Police, and Us. Guess who always arived first, even with the same traveling distance? US, by 15 minuets or more. And not a one time event, but several, we started comign armed as we knew, like many are learning that the police arn’t here to protect you, but to clean up the mess afterwards. And most cops I’ve meet have been on the take on one form or another. So my illogical “hitmen” as you but them are stupid eeh? Givin I’ve done my duty and have twice reported on drug stashes with my life on the line, only to recive threats afterwards and the cops never finding anything, Well lets say I’ll trust the army a hell of alot sooner than I will ANY cop or Politition, your all in the same boat to me.

You arguments about fences not being an effective deterrent are total BS.
For example you said;

“And for Prisons, they don’t work, Guards on the watch towers that will SHOOT you do”.

“And if it takes more than 5 minuets for even a small force to investigate (Small as in 12 men, anything less on a group of 20 border jumpers that are armed will get you killed) it they would have cut it, rammed it, or but, omg ladders up to climb it.”

Before I got into Law Enforcement, I worked briefly in a Maximum Security Prison. While it is true that the guards have orders to shoot to kill if the inmates attempt to breach the fence, what do you think would happen if there was no fence on the perimeter of the prison?

In addition, if may interest you to know that the BP, usually work alone on the southern border and not in teams of 12 men. They arrest groups of 20 or more illegals on a daily basis usually with a single man unit providing back up.

You arguments against building a fence on our southern border defy the facts we do know about the deterrent they provide in general and specifically at the southern border.

As I posted previously, the double layered “Israeli Style” fence installed in the San Diego border region lowered border crossings by 95%.The CBO,Congressional Budget Office, has studied the cost benefit of installing the fence on the Mexican Border and concluded that it would reduce border crossings by 70-80%.

“The fence has produced some improvement in the area, according to a Congressional Research Service report in 2005 that said illegal alien apprehensions along the fence region dropped from 202,000 in 1992 to 9,000 in 2004.”

“Meanwhile, vehicle drive-throughs in the region have fallen from between six to 10 per day before the construction of the fence to four drive-throughs for the entire year of 2004. Crime in San Diego dropped 56.3 percent between 1989 and 2000, according to the FBI Crime Index.”

For you to continue to argue that the fence will not work without installing machine gun nests and having 12 men hit squads defies common sense and in the face of the known facts on the ground.

A Fence alone is a false sense of Securitym you need man power to man it, not fancy shamcy electronics that a hooligan can take out or a man with a high powered rifle. And if it takes more than 5 minuets for even a small force to investigate (Small as in 12 men, anything less on a group of 20 border jumpers that are armed will get you killed) it they would have cut it, rammed it, or but, omg ladders up to climb it. We Need a static defense line that is manned, with roving airsupport and ground patrols, this will take half a million men on the Southern Border.

If fences do not work, why are we giving Mexico over a billion dollars of our taxpayer money so they can contruct one on *their* southern border?

If fences don’t work, why do we have one around the White House? Why do we have them around correctional facilities, car and truck lots and other public and private property?

And another rhetorical question – why should I support any crapweasel Congress critter, President Bush or any party that supports this travesty?

No more voting for the so-called “lesser of two evils!” No way, José!

purplepeep said:

ScottyDog,

Wow, that’s an amazing photographic fence comparison, Dog. Thanks.

Your welcome. I live in California/Mexifornia and have watched it turn into a third world shixx hole.

I am trying to do my part in waking up people that the NAU is why our immigration laws are not being enforced before we loose our Constitutional Republic.

Have low flying reconisance Aircraft to keep an eye on those area’s and the watch tower zones. Sensors are nice but can be jammed and cost alot. The TV sat cams if turned off alert the nearest platoon and Battalion barracks so that makes a fast reaction AND keeps corruption at bay. As to our ports, I say less money on Cruise Missiles and more on PT boats to patrol the “brown” seas with defensive instillations at each port (SAMS and anti-Ship batteries), and roving patrols in the air and ground on landable beaches.

Course It is better to arrest and then see why they are sneaking over, if its a legit reasson, such as the Vietmanese feeling communist forces and arn’t criminal, I say welcome them. They are in need of help and could not come here other wise. If they are sneaking over for work to send money to the homeland, deport them. If they ever fire at the towers or troops and threaten agressive action bring them down.

But making a gaint electric fence isn’t realistic, given power requirements and given that if one end of the fence was to short out the whole system would fallow. I say also to let the Military man this defensive line. Though in a western nation this amount of militarisation isn’t going to be taken likely.

Would it help if we charged the fence with electricity?

At a minimum, a double fence with sensors and roving patrols is what’s needed.

And since we are at war and the terrorists are teaming up with Mexican drug runners, towers with machine guns isn’t a bad idea either.