Potomac primary watch: Results time; 8:33pm: Eastern Fox, CNN call Va. for McCain; Update: Know-it-all Hillary bashes mortgage companies, oil companies; Update: Obama, McCain take Maryland; Obama takes shots at McCain, Bush, Cheney, and Obama’s hope rhetoric as a “platitude;” Huck vows to “play until the last second has sounded”
Scroll down for updates…Md. gets 90 extra minutes to vote due to weather/traffic…closure time at 9:30pm…8:33pm: Eastern Fox, CNN call Va. for McCain…9:32pm Obama, McCain take Maryland…Huckabee will “play until the last second has sounded”…Obama wallops Clinton among women, Hispanics (52-47), all age groups…
The polls have just closed in Va. It’s “too close to call” in the GOP race in Va. Here’s the official Va.results page.
Black turnout in Md. may be at a record high today despite bad weather. Early exit poll data here. Take it with a sizable grain of salt, of course.
FYI, Fox just called Va. for Obama.
In D.C., Mayor Adrian Fenty–an overly fervent Obama supporter, flirts with electioneering violations.
Maybe someone should tell him to, you know, “calm down.”
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Fox is touting early exit polls results showing conservatives–particularly talk radio listeners–rejecting McCain.
If that holds, how will all the talk radio-bashers explain it away? Talk radio is supposed to be dead and talk hosts are supposed to be powerless. Right?
Update 7:32pm Eastern. CNN says it’s currently 49-44 Huckabee over McCain in Va.
AP’s prelim exit poll data:
Nearly seven in 10 voters in Virginia’s Republican primary called themselves conservatives. Mike Huckabee won half of their votes, including two-thirds of those who called themselves “very conservative.” Four in 10 Virginia Republican voters were born-again evangelical Christians, and they strongly supported Huckabee over John McCain. Huckabee won the votes of two-thirds of those who said they were looking for a candidate who shared their values. McCain won the votes of two-thirds of moderates and almost half of those who called themselves “somewhat conservative.”
Voters who said they listened to conservative talk radio were more likely to vote for Huckabee, while non-listeners tended to support McCain. The more often people listened to conservative talk radio, the less likely they were to vote for McCain.
Update 8:21pm Eastern.
Update 8:33pm Eastern. Fox and then CNN both call the Va. race for McCain.
Love the subliminal message here from this Reuters photo…
Update 9:15pm Eastern. Hillary’s speaking in El Paso, lambasting greedy mortgage companies, as usual.
Not that the, uh, GOP nominee would be saying anything different about the subprime debacle…now bashing oil companies…”Let’s create our own energy! We have the sun! We have the wind!”
Jeff Quinton continues to blog the Md. primary.
Update 9:44pm Eastern. Obama exults in his Potomac primary. It’s all about, yep, CHANGE.
“Tonight, we’re on our way…It takes more than one night, or even one election, to overcome money and the influence, bitter partisanship, petty bickering, that shut you out…the cynics can no longer say that are hope is false…we’ve won north and south, east and west, across the country…we have given young people a reason to believe and we have brought the young at heart back to the polls who wanna believe again…”
Obama thanks Republicans who support him and says thank you.
Obama honors McCain’s service, but not his agenda. Says Bush won’t be the ballot (loudest applause). Says “his cousin Dick Cheney” won’t be on the ballot (laughter). “I opposed this war from the start.” (Huge applause.) Mentions McCain’s comment that we might be in Iraq for 100 years (boos).
Some people will say I have my head in the clouds…that I have false hope…that I’m a ‘hope-monger’…I should not be here today. I was not born into money or status. I was born to a teenage mom in Hawaii. My father left us when I was 2. But my family gave me love, education, and most of all, hope…Hope is not blind optimism. Hope is not ignorance of the barriers and challenges that stand between you and your dreams. I know how hard it will be to change America…if it was easy, it would have already been done…Obama bashes Exxon Mobil…
Update 10:07pm Eastern. McCain’s reading from the teleprompter. It’s a new speech and he is not very comfortable reading it. He’s got this weird, sing-song-y delivery that doesn’t match the seriousness of his scripted message.
“The American people don’t send us to Washington to serve our self-interest, but to serve theirs.”
It’s a variation on the “patriotism not profit” theme.
“We’re the makers of history, not its victims.” (Loud applause and chants.)
Stealing Obama’s thunder: “Hope is a powerful thing.” References his days in captivity. “My hope for my country resides in my faith in America’s character.” Assails empty rhetoric of hope as a “platitude.”
He’s right, of course.
But if he plans on beating Obama in the general election, he better work on his delivery.
Sidenote: Fla. Gov. Charlie Crist is up on stage with the other McCainiacs. He is still very, very orange. Oompa-loompa orange.
Update 10:24pm Eastern. Huck refuses to go.
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On February 13th, 2008 at 11:05 am, CharlieT said: #76
Now this is a sensible post!
Cat,
you’ve totally earned the label of troll.
You just don’t get that forensic argument is not the same as name-calling and nastiness.
TWOT (total waste of time)
EmJem, I find it tragic that people are willing to criticize a lack of details, when some of them are laid out in plain sight but refuse to be acknowledged that they exist.
EmJem, have you even BEEN to the websites of Obama and McCain? I noticed that you convienently left out the specifics about Education, Dropouts and Disabled Plans Sen. Obama has laid out on his website.
Is that a coincidence that you chose not to address my specific references found in my post (#50 if you would like to look)?
All I am saying is that while Sen. Obama has laid out details of his plans in certain catagories, Sen. McCain (as of yet) has not done so.
And shame on you for choosing to not even examine the specific details about Sen. Obama’s plans that he has laid out and discuss them in an honest debate, and instead resort to name calling.
And then you have the audacity to poke fun of college students who are excited about voting??? My goodness! Give them credit for voting AT ALL! The U.S. needs as many people as possible to get educated about the issues and registered to vote!
Young people included!
Is that NOT what you want????
Emjem, frankly, I don’t think that you will even come back to this thread or issue a reply. But if you do, (and I hope that you do) I would hope that you are able to discuss with me the specific details about Sen. McCain’s plans and Sen. Obama’s plans.
Hopefully, it will not resort to name-calling as your last post ended up.
I look forward to hearing from you.
To all of you, I just think that people need to take a step and compare and contrast details about the differences between the two. It’s so important that people are able to reason TOGETHER about the issues. Could both candidates improve on specifics about their positions? Yes! But PLEASE can it not resort to name calling and insults. It just does not help in ANY capacity!
I have, huh? After the smart-assed way you’ve come on to people, your opinion of who is what doesn’t matter much to me, thanks, but keep trying to posture your way out of the debate. Trust me, it’s fun to watch, professor.
Sure I do. This is a great example, Rags. You volunteer a remark. I counter it. You counter back in a smart-assed way with a superior tone. I beat your arguement – proved by the fact that you haven’t answered my questions, as anyone here can read by just scrolling through the thread – no mystery there – and do so in a way appropriate to your condescending attitude, and then you call me a troll. I understand that perfectly. Boo hoo hoo. Politics is a tough business, Professor. Get used to it.
Let’s try this one last time just for sh*ts and giggles, Ragsy: How is it you can predict that Mccain will not win, and even if that were to be true, how is not voting for him and therefore ensuring that Hillary or Obama get to be President better than at least trying to get him elected?
I hear ya, but this discussion about sitting out an election or otherwise getting Hillary or Obama in is a serious one, and momentum builds support. Being called a “Bully” is name calling, too, and ridiculous one it is, too. Especially from Ragsy and a few others who come om strong as hell and then cry foul when they get it handed back to them. Boo hoo hoo. I’ve never been an advocate of sitting back and letting guys like ragsy have their way, because before you know it, the world is ruled by (fill in the blank)
That’s just how it is, DarkKnight. It’s the real world we live in. What can I say?
MCC,
To be honest, I didn’t read entirely the spat between you and some of the other posters on this thread. I was referring to emjem’s comment that “Obama is a self-righteous, disingenous, lying, manipulative prick…”
I find that totally uncalled for and that made me upset and disappointed.
I wasn’t calling you out. I was asking emjem for a decent, civilized discussion.
My apologies. I misunderstood your post entirely. In context, it just seemed to mean something else.
You’re right. I’m disappointed, too. He should have saved that for Hillary.