Michelle Malkin » Marine-bashing Toledo mayor whines about “f***king ruckus”

Marine-bashing Toledo mayor whines about “f***king ruckus”

By Michelle Malkin • February 15, 2008 04:37 PM

Carty Finkbeiner, the jerk mayor of Toledo, cursed on live radio when asked about his anti-Marines stance.

He’s always got excuses. This time he says he was “tongue-tied.”

More likely: Brain-tied.

Radio host Maggie Thurber writes about how The Jerk’s stand could cost the city $57.7 million:

Though there are a few who agree with his decision, I don’t think there’s anyone who agrees with the way the decision was carried out, or with the public relations nightmare Carty started because of his last-minute order to prohibit the exercises.

Adding insult to injury, he refused to meet with an officer of the company to see if any alternatives could be worked out, contributing to the indignation over the way the U.S. Marines were treated.

So what is a citizen to do? As there was a failed recall effort last year, another cannot be undertaken for 12 months, which means late this summer.

And that’s where the .75 percent payroll income tax comes into play. This temporary tax, which generates $57.7 million for the City of Toledo, is on the March 4 primary ballot. Since the city’s announcement this would be on the ballot, there have been calls to defeat it.

But with the most recent embarrassment foisted upon the citizenry by Mayor Finkbeiner, the calls to vote “no” have grown louder.

Toledoans know that serious cuts would have to be made if the city were to lose that much revenue. The mayor and council are counting on their claims of loss of police and fire to “scare” the people into voting yes.

But Toledoans, already close to rejecting such pleas, may have been pushed over the edge by this latest mayoral fiasco. And without any other readily available means to express their dissatisfaction, they may decide to vote “no” on the .75 percent tax in a couple of weeks.

Council, hoping to avoid such fallout, passed a resolution apologizing to the Marines. But Council — and the city — has nothing to apologize for … unless it’s for keeping Carty as the mayor.

Members of council are now doing damage control, pleading with citizens to not penalize everyone in the city for the poor decisions of the mayor. But Toledoans may not heed such pleas, understanding that the only thing that seems to get the attention of elected officials is when their available funds are cut.

And if voters take out their frustration at the ballot box, Carty’s arrogance and stubbornness may end up being a $57.7 million mistake.

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#1

On February 15th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, zorro said:

Another audition for Jackass 3?
#2

On February 15th, 2008 at 4:47 pm, graysonret said:

Yeah….vote “NO”!! Then start a recall petition against the mayor Fink—-
#3

On February 15th, 2008 at 4:49 pm, gippergirl said:

that’s what they voted for
#4

On February 15th, 2008 at 4:50 pm, geminicontender said:

Right on! Finally Americans standing up to these snot nosed children. Hit them in the pocketbook. It is the only thing they know. Thank you Berkeley for keeping this sort of thing on the front burner.
#5

On February 15th, 2008 at 4:51 pm, John Ansell said:

Is he dating Fonda?
#6

On February 15th, 2008 at 4:51 pm, letget said:

I hope the citizens of Toledo veto the tax as a protest for this man’s actions. Better yet, NO more tax payers money to that city till that man is gone. It is indeed a scare tactic. The Fink has to be accountable for what he really thinks about our military.
It is refreshing to think there are citizens in Toledo who indeed love our military.
L.
#7

On February 15th, 2008 at 4:53 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

On February 15th, 2008 at 4:51 pm, John Ansell said:
Is he dating Fonda?

Would you? Just saying.

The people of Toledo elected him. Clinger would be proud and mad at the same time because the mayor is Section 8!
#8

On February 15th, 2008 at 4:55 pm, ajmontana said:

Holy Toledo!
Seriously, I think there are way to many people sniffing glue holding Government positions.
#9

On February 15th, 2008 at 4:58 pm, DesertLover said:

On-my-soap-box said: Would you?

No thanks … but I did have the great pleasure of getting to moon her once … really made my day …
#10

On February 15th, 2008 at 4:59 pm, DesertLover said:

got that right aj
#11

On February 15th, 2008 at 4:59 pm, Jeddite said:

Hit them in the pocketbook. With all due respect to the good people of Toledo, maybe such a fine would be significant inducement for the voting people to toss the jerk out of office and onto his a$$.
#12

On February 15th, 2008 at 5:00 pm, ajmontana said:

yikes! a desert moon. hope there weren’t any rattlers around.
#13

On February 15th, 2008 at 5:03 pm, Just A Grunt said:

Now that is just nucking futs!
#14

On February 15th, 2008 at 5:08 pm, right_on said:

Carty’s arrogance and stubbornness may end up being a $57.7 million mistake.

…b-b-but, he’s a Democrat! He knows what’s best for the City of Toledo, and is only following in the footsteps of fellow Democratic leaders in our nation’s capitol!

What a patri-ass!
#15

On February 15th, 2008 at 5:08 pm, AZTeacher said:

Sounds like this guy needs to retire. Or, better yet, spend a day at Camp Pendleton with the real thing and let -them- change his opinion.

He’s an idiot.
#16

On February 15th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, Rogue said:

Can I say I’d fully support voting no on this? Maybe the council will can take some of the shortfall out of their own paychecks, starting with the Mayor’s as well as any other financial perks they recieve.
#17

On February 15th, 2008 at 5:31 pm, Blind_Mule said:

AZTeacher said:
Sounds like this guy needs to retire. Or, better yet, spend a day at Camp Pendleton with the real thing and let -them- change his opinion.

He’s an idiot.

This guy would’nt last the first day at MCRD let alone Pendelton and those boys have’nt even achieved the status or U.S.Marine yet.
#18

On February 15th, 2008 at 5:31 pm, TexasTiger said:

Later a statement from Mr. Finkbeiner said: “The intention of the word was ‘ruckus.’ I started to say ‘fuss’ and changed to ‘ruckus’ and the words were merged into one.”

Good Lord. That’s the explanation a seven year-old would give. Louuu-zer!
#19

On February 15th, 2008 at 5:33 pm, docflash said:

The list seems to get longer of cities and towns that have these MoonBat moments.The good people of those places cant like being a laughing stock.That mayor cant admit he was wrong,much less stupid,but it will be someone elses fault.Toledo is another on the list not to visit.
#20

On February 15th, 2008 at 5:35 pm, graysonret said:

Well, if he lost his job there, he can always run for mayor of Berkeley or Brattleboro. I’m sure they would welcome him.
#21

On February 15th, 2008 at 6:34 pm, DanME said:

They get what they deserve. They elected this guy. Many of the politicians from Ohio seem to be on the wrong side of most issues.
#22

On February 15th, 2008 at 7:00 pm, pubscout said:

Finkbeiner? Is that even a real name? And people voted of that name?

Nah. it’s a joke.
#23

On February 15th, 2008 at 7:09 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

Toledo Mayor=Ass Clown….and a very bad one at that!
#24

On February 15th, 2008 at 7:31 pm, countrybumpkin said:

I live in a village with a population of 75, give or take. At the next Village Board meeting I plan to introduce a measure to sever diplomatic relations with Berkley, Toledo, Washington State and Vermont.

That ought to fix them! :-)….
#25

On February 15th, 2008 at 7:55 pm, Blind_Mule said:

meatpieandtatters said:
Toledo Mayor=Ass Clown….and a very bad one at that!

Certified by meatpieandtatters
#26

On February 15th, 2008 at 8:46 pm, Dianeces said:

I hope they do vote no on the tax. That way, it will make it much easier to get rid of the jerk next recall.
#27

On February 15th, 2008 at 8:51 pm, ALC said:

It looks like more and more people are waking up as to what is happening in the U.S. Not only is the war on terror done with military weapons but with votes for elected officials. More and more American citizens have to get involved in all phases of the election process in their city, county, state and national elections. More and more legal and illegal immigrants are coming to the U.S. and voting and injecting their culture into the U.S. We as Americans can not just stand by and let that happen. We Americans must learn more about politics and the election process and get out there and put our money and vote to what we believe in. This war on terror is more than just killing the terrorist. There must be good, faithful, and patriot politicians in office as well and we have to put them there with our vote and money.
#28

On February 15th, 2008 at 9:06 pm, TexasTiger said:

On February 15th, 2008 at 7:31 pm, countrybumpkin said:
I live in a village with a population of 75, give or take.

You could petition the village council to go to Toledo and get their idiot back.
#29

On February 15th, 2008 at 9:19 pm, nbarry said:

Not only was he tongue-tied, but the dog also ate his homework.
#30

On February 15th, 2008 at 9:38 pm, jukin said:

ALC, well said.
#31

On February 15th, 2008 at 10:06 pm, tanksoldier said:

If the tax measure doesn’t pass because of his stupidity, will the Mayor take a pay cut and cut his staff to keep more firefighters and police on the streets?

Doubtful.
#32

On February 15th, 2008 at 10:09 pm, blogagog said:

When is voting against a payroll tax increase EVER a mistake?
#33

On February 15th, 2008 at 10:51 pm, countrybumpkin said:

Tiger, I was idiot last week. This week I’m town drunk.

Somebody’s got to do it!
#34

On February 15th, 2008 at 11:39 pm, fourstringfuror said:

Is he dating Fonda?

He’s only in it for her cunt.

Hey, I’m just reclaiming the word! I’m making it personal, and beautiful, and tasteful.

Oh, wait - I’m a man. Guess that only applies to females.
#35

On February 16th, 2008 at 12:06 am, bagoh20 said:

How does a tax cut (non-increase) cost the city money? Where does the money come from? Doesn’t rejecting the increase save the people (taxpayers) of the city money since they will keep it rather than give it to the government?
#36

On February 16th, 2008 at 6:53 am, terrig said:

What an idiot!
#37

On February 16th, 2008 at 7:06 am, JohnnyD said:

And that’s where the .75 percent payroll income tax comes into play. This temporary tax, which generates $57.7 million for the City of Toledo, is on the March 4 primary ballot. Since the city’s announcement this would be on the ballot, there have been calls to defeat it.

A temporary tax? Since when? Defeat it and pronto!

On February 16th, 2008 at 12:06 am, bagoh20 said:
How does a tax cut (non-increase) cost the city money? Where does the money come from? Doesn’t rejecting the increase save the people (taxpayers) of the city money since they will keep it rather than give it to the government?

I think it should have been said like that exactly. That’s $57.7 mil of their own money the people will be able to keep.

It would be a valuable lesson for the mayor, not that he would learn it.
#38

On February 16th, 2008 at 7:37 am, TexasTiger said:

On February 15th, 2008 at 10:51 pm, countrybumpkin said:
Tiger, I was idiot last week. This week I’m town drunk.

Somebody’s got to do it!

That’s right. If you don’t step up, there’s an illegal alien waiting “in the shadows” who will.
#39

On February 16th, 2008 at 10:25 am, TMoney said:

Over-zealous, anti-military, and … yeah - a JERK.
#40

On February 16th, 2008 at 10:44 am, MrVIBEMAN said:

I agree with JohnnyD. You could probably count on the fingers of one finger how many ‘temporary’ taxes have been rescinded. I’m sure the majority of them have somehow become permanent when everyone’s back was turned.

I originally hail from just an hour south of Toledo. There are some smart people there. I sure hope they do the right thing and vote this down, for their own sake.
#41

On February 16th, 2008 at 11:07 am, Laree said:

Has this Mayor ever served in the American Military? Where does his expertize for running Toledo come from? His background?
#42

On February 16th, 2008 at 1:49 pm, secondsight said:

Of course Toledo should vote no. Taking money away from Democrats is doing God’s work and doing so is always justified, worthwhile, builds character, resolve and is never done.
#43

On February 16th, 2008 at 5:11 pm, Michael said:

Johnny D #37:

That “temporary” 3/4% income tax has been around since 1982. It’s on top of a permanent 1.5% income tax.

Of course, every four years or so the city whines about needing the money to keep the cops, fire department, garbage pickup, etc. going rather than taking steps to wean themselves off dependence on the money.

When I actually lived in the city I voted against it every time it came up but the scare tactics always made sure about 70-80% of the people voted yes. When I lived in the suburbs outside Lucas County I still had to pay it because I worked in the city and there’s no reimbursement for nonresidents that covers the extra 0.75 percent.

By the way, if they put together an effort to recall Carty this summer, I believe this would be attempt number 4. Otherwise, Toledo is stuck with him through 2009.

Michael Swartz
http://www.monoblogue.us
(former Toledo resident)
#44

On February 16th, 2008 at 8:26 pm, ammo john said:

I wonder how he feels about the OH Air Nat’l Guard’s 180th Fighter Wing that is stationed there? Everytime they deploy, he probably says good riddance.