Election night open thread: Change-o-rama! Update: McCain takes WI, vigorously attacks Dem rivals; Update: Obama’s 9th consecutive win in WI; Update: Hillary attacks Obama; Update: Obama upstages Hillary…”Houston, I think we have achieved lift-off!”; Obama counterattacks McCain
Scroll down for updates…9:39pm Eastern…Obama’s speaking…will anyone faint?…Here’s the McCain speech vid…and here’s the Obama/Hillary upstage moment…
Wisconsin and Hawaii are up for grabs tonight in the Dem race. Will the plagiarism charges stick? Allah’s got vid of the latest developments involving Obama poaching Deval Patrick. How about the Michelle Factor?
Feel free to share your predictions, local reports, etc.
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Update 7:20pm Eastern. Platitude frenzy! The People Want “Change:”
Preliminary exit poll results in the Wisconsin primaries underscore both differences and similarities between the two parties in the state.
Around nine in 10 voters, in both the Democratic and Republican contests, are white. But a substantial majority of Democratic voters are women, more than usual for a Wisconsin Democratic primary, while on the Republican side a substantial majority are men, considerably more than in most GOP primaries this year. (It’ll take updated data to see if that comes out as a high for the cycle.)
In the Democratic race, nearly half the voters are liberals — up from 2004.
Among Republican voters, six in 10 are conservatives. Both are in the mid-range for primaries this year.
The preliminary results also indicate that more seniors than usual are voting in the Democratic race — up from their 2004 level, and also potentially a high for Democratic voters this cycle, though again it’ll take final data later tonight to see that holds.
As in previous contests, the top issue for Democrats and Republicans alike is the economy — around four in 10 call it the most important issue facing the country. (It’s been considerably higher for Democrats in some other states.)
On candidate attributes, again as in the past, someone who can “bring about needed change” is tops by far for Democrats; among Republicans, as in previous primaries, it’s someone who “shares my values.”
Update 7:57pm Eastern.
Fox exit polls…on late-deciders among Dems, Obama leads Hillary 53-47.
54 percent of WI Dems believe Hill is attacking Obama unfairly.
34 believe Obama is attacking Hill unfairly.
80 percent say they would be satisfied if Obama were the nominee
On the GOP side in WI, 7 out of 10 Republicans are going with McCain over Huck, 53-39.
The spread among vets: 51-33 McCain over Huck.
Among evangelicals, Huck leads 59-35.
Among values voters, 54-31 going with McCain.
And he’s losing the very conservative Republican vote.
Update 9:02pm Eastern. CNN projects a McCain win in WI, as expected. Obama leads in WI, but no projection yet.
Update 9:08pm Eastern. McCain speaks in Ohio. He’s once again praising Mike Huckabee and reading his sing-songy teleprompter speech.
McCain attacks the “empty call for change” and the “holiday from history.”
Huge, huge applause.
Good lines about Cuba and the “self-important bully in Venezuela.”
Attacks Obama (not by name) for wanting to sit down with our enemies and talk. Attacks “moral monsters” behind jihad.
“My friends, I’m not the youngest candidate, but I am the most experienced. (
Big applause and he does a thumbs-up.) I know what the military can do, what it can’t do, and what it can do better. I know how Congress works. I know how the world works…how to work with those who want to make it more prosperous and free…and how to stand up to those who don’t…I don’t run out of sense of entitlement. I owe more to her than she has ever owed me…”
Update 9:25pm Eastern. CNN projects Obama win in WI. That’s nine straight gold medals in a row. And number ten is imminent in Obama’s home state of Hawaii.
Update 9:32pm Eastern. Hillary’s speaking in Youngstown, Ohio. She’s hammering her “We can’t have just speeches and words” attack. She looks haggard. Her voice is shot.
Oh, gack. She just played the woman card by recounting a young mom who gave her $10 “because she wanted her daughters to know that anything is possible.” Hillary also claims she received a donation from a man who is a “cranky conservative.”
Hillary brags about her foreign policy readiness. She “stood up to China.”
And pocketed their cash.
She’s ready for “day one.” Blah, blah.
Note: She’s attacking Obama, not McCain.
Update 9:38pm Eastern. Obama has upstaged Hillary. Started his speech in the middle of Hillary’s. Massive crowd and massive noise compared to Hillary’s little Youngstown crowd. Oh. no. The “Yes, We Can” chants are starting. He’s making a hard push for Texans to vote, explaining process. Announces win in Wisconsin. Massive applause.
No one has fainted yet.
Update 9:49pm Eastern. Obama tells a subprime sob story. I will be checking into the specifics of that case and asking the questions that need to be asked about it. I promise you.
Now, he’s recounting his anti-war bracelet story. Big applause.
Makes a crack about some people looking through her kindergarten papers. Huge applause. I’m not running out of entitlement. Running because of the “fierce urgency of now.” Huge applause.
Cheers again when Obama complains about gas prices.
10:01pm Eastern. Obama says “I believe in the free market,” then proceeds to bash the free market. Vows to roll back Bush tax cuts.
Update 10:16pm Eastern. “Some people say well, what about John McCain?” Boos. Says he honors and reveres his war record, but not his “failed economic policies.” Obama says he’s the “arty of tomorrow,” not the party of yesterday.
Segues to his hope rhetoric. Hope, hope, hope, hope. The meaning of hope.
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That was substance? … That was the same old leftist socialist liberal BS … Obama was goaded by McCain into revealing his “change details” … point McCain … Welcome to the big leagues BO … you just got punked …
All of this doesn’t matter anyway … neither one will have enough delegates for the outright nomination before the convention … then HRC will steal the nomination anyway with the MI and FL delegates and the super delegates …
As a result the black population will finally wake up and realize how they have been taken for granted and taken advantage of by the Dems for all these years and will revolt against HRC in the general election … so get used to it …
McCain will win in a landslide as a result …
Although I have taken the pledge to vote for anyone who is not John McCain, I was horrified listening to Obama’s spiel on education.
He proposes to pour in the lavish funding while bringing an end to the testing that seeks to measure whether the teachers are competent and the students are actually applying themselves.
And, of course, college education must be free, also. Our untested pupils who fail to master high school work must receive college “educations” lavishly funded at public expense.
The cost of college tuition is absolutely absurd already and the solution is certainly not to throw more wads of public money at it. But there is nothing new in any of this. If any prediction about the Democrat Party can be made without fear of error, it is that it will pander to the sick education industry and its unions while simultaneously accepting outcomes that are pathetic by world standards.
Great, we are left with 3 Democrats and a open-borders religious fanatic.
Obama is lame.
Looks like a huge turnout in Hawaii for the Democrats caucuses. One line a reported 400 yards long. People in line for hours. Out of ballots nearly everywhere so they were handing out pieces of paper for people to write on. In short – the usual chaos when Dems are in charge. But a lot of people…
Hillary was on the news by satellite to explain her ties to Hawaii – “I’ve been to Hawaii…” (Really.) OK she said more…said she worked on health care for Hawaii, supports the Akaka bill, payment to Filipino veterans, and more money for the tourist industry.
With so much chaos it may take awhile to sort it out. Inoue supports Clinton, so many drones may vote that way, but I’m guessing the turnout was for Obama.
Aloha Michelle, are you still up?
So, it looks like it could be “hope vs no hope” in November…
(Looking carefully in Constitution) Where do it say that healthcare is a “right”?
we better HOPE that Hillary decides to push for the FL and MI delegates and the ensuing uproar splits the democratic party. Otherwise we are looking at four years of living hell.
Karl Rove commented last night and this morning on Fox News that a loss for HRC might not necessarily be the end for her but a double-digit loss could be writing on the wall, because WI demographics are supposedly close to the upcoming states. I wonder if he is on to something with that? HRC took a pretty hefty smackdown with the losses last night in Wisconsin and Hawaii.
Billary had a quite lucrative posture with China, did they not? Maybe she meant China propped up the Clinton?
A sure sign of the person that is behind this late in the game, when they have to attack the other person in their primary, instead of the frontrunner in the other party.
He’s for them and against them? What a conundrum that must place him in, huh?
Geez. I suppose that is a different twist on the “I was for it, before I was against it, we have heard from so many others.”
Probably right in around the same place it talks about abortion on demand and children under the age of majority having the right to keep information from their parents, I guess.
The China experience she was referring to was the China they took from the White house when they left.
Ahhhhh. So that was it.
Heh. Good ‘un, DL – and I’m just jealous I didn’t come up with it!
I predict that Hilly’s goose is cooked. Get a fork ’cause she’s done. Oh, well, I’ll just grab myself a barf bag to prepare for the mass retching when O’bummer wins the nomination. Gag….
With apologies to Barry Manilow, who should himself apologize for so many reasons, I bring you the 2008 political version of the Copacabana, from Hawaii to Wisconsin to Havana.
Supporters of Hillary…
They yelled “You go, girl!”
Oh she of ever changing hair,
and not an ounce of flair…
She would meander…
and cackle “ha-ha!”
and while she tried to be a star
Obama came in from afar
He commanded a crowded floor
And Oprah added more
They were young, hip, and attractive
Who could ask for more?
It was pure Oprah…
and Obamamania…
From Hawaii to Wisconsin to Havana…
Obama reached out…
Hill hates republicans…
Barack inspired passion,
Hill was out of fashion…
Obamamania…
Hill lost the love…
His name was Fidel…
He ruled an Island…
Decrepit in his chair
He saw Hillary standing there
When she finished…
He called her over…
2 socialists in love…
Until hubby Bill took off the gloves…
And then the punches flew…
Chairs were smashed in two…
One man collapsed from boredom upon the floor…
But who bored who?
Not Oprah…
Or Obama…
They were hot from Honolulu to Havana…
Obamamania…
had swept Wisconsin
Barack brought more passion
Hill fell further out of fashion
Obamamania…
She lost more love
Her name was Hillary…
They once screamed “You go, girl!”
But that was many years ago
When she and Bill ran the show
There is still dancing…
but not for Hillary
Fading like Fidel…
Her dreams have gone to hell…
She’s now even more unkind
She beats Bill till he’s blind
She lost her youth,
She lost the election,
Now she’s lost her mind
Because Oprah…
and Obama…
Are off to Texas and Ohio with momentum
They worry about John McCain…
and the General Election Campaign…
Heroism vs passion…
Both gave Hill a smashing…
Yet she learned nothing…
2012 with love…
Ok folks, I admit it. I have some serious screws loose.
I guess I am just giddy. First the New England Patriots lose.
Then Fidel Castro leaves not with a bang, but with a whimper, in the form of a note, most likely one spelled badly.
Anything truly is possible. I truly still believe Hillary will somehow find a way at the 11th hour to steal…
You know what? Never mind. I will declare today an optimism only zone.
Thank you Hawaii, Wisconsin and Havana. The world is three small steps closer to being a better place today than it was yesterday.
Despots do not go gently into that good night. They hang on by their fingernails, dragged from the world stage kicking and screaming.
Yet lord willing, get dragged away they will. Fidel Castro and Hillary Clinton are not gone.
Yet slowly, ever so slowly, they might just might be on the verge of leaving.
Hillary is right that Obama is an empty suit, but it is a likable suit that looks nice. Unfortunately for her, she is an empty suit that is unlikable. She will hopefully soon be confined to wherever people keep leisure suits. Perhaps she can wear one while playing shuffleboard at some political retirement home, far away from Washington, DC.
The 2008 race for the democratic nomination and the right to get trounced by republican John McCain continues. He is one tough hombre. It would be fitting if the old war hero outlasts the Cuban cancer that bedeviled 10 previous U.S. Presidents.
(quick election update…with 8% in Hawaii, Obama led 77 to 23%. More importantly, Hillary had exactly 666 votes. I could not make that up if I tried)
The old warhorse will prosper, while Fidel Castro and Hillary Clinton will get lost once and for all.
At the risk of plagiarizing Barack Obama, or perhaps Deval Patrick, on this issue…
I have hope.
eric
http://www.blacktygrrrr.wordpress.com
As both a Houston native and NASA employee, I am surprised Obama showed his face here after saying that he wants to cut funds from Space Exploration Program. Vote for Obama and let’s see how NASA goes away.