It’s hard out here for an illegal alien
I wonder whether the Santa Cruz Sentinel has devoted as much time and space to telling the story of American workers hit hard by the economic slump:
Luis Valle eats a hard shell taco fast Monday afternoon at Taco Bell, his knee jerking up and down. It’s the first thing he’s eaten, he said, in 24 hours. Times are tough for the 27-year-old illegal immigrant and day laborer — an out-of-work farmworker who lives in Watsonville and gets jobs these days by standing outside the new Home Depot on 41st Avenue.
Carlos Rodriguez, an unemployed brother in arms, sits next to him, but he doesn’t eat his taco as fast. He’s more methodical. He’s also had better luck of late. He scored $40 for two hours of work cleaning up somebody’s back yard on Calabasas Road on Sunday. He’s still got the dirt beneath his nails to prove it.
But such great pay is rare, he admits.
“It’s probably because I was working on a Sunday,” joked Rodriguez, 28. “It’s something I shouldn’t have been doing.”
For the most part, Rodriguez says, he’s doing what hundreds of other day laborers are doing these days: Standing around and waiting for jobs in Santa Cruz instead of actually getting them. When times are good, their numbers are thick. By noon, most of them are long gone, snapped up by those who need them.
When times are bad, their numbers are equally thick, but they tend to stick around, the result of a labor shortage.
The slumping economy, the record number of home foreclosures, the lag in house sales and an idle construction industry aren’t just affecting middle-class Americans.
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The bad times are trickling down to the lowest rung of the work force: the illegal labor pool, which has long been tapped by both contractors and homeowners for convenience and low cost.And somewhere in Mexico a wife and a family are having a rougher go at it than usual. That’s because a large number of day laborers are single men who send their money back to Mexico via wire transfers — when they’ve got it to send back.
No worried, though, right? The $1.4 billion economic stimulus/border security package for Mexico from the US taxpayers will soon be on its way…
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I think this is why Oregon was reacting toward it’s illegal population, re one of your last blogs on this topic…there are less and less public dollars, they can’t afford the illegal invaders, like they used to, we are heading into a economic down turn. Now that it is about Politician’s and their budgets $$$$ I wonder if their, it’s all about Compassion talking points, will change?
There is Nothing, I repeat Nothing Compassionate about Human Smuggling. It has always been a bad kept dirty secret about providing a cheap work force.
And somewhere in the United States a wife and a family are having a rougher go at it than usual. That’s because a large number of illegal alien workers raises the supply of labor and consequently lowers the wages of American citizens and legal immigrants.
Wake up America before it’s too late.
I don’t mean to sound callous but WTF!!
Are we supposed to roll out the red carpet and see to it that every illegal has a job. I’m sorry but last I checked they shouldn’t be here. So, the sob story about the wife and kids back in Mexico not being fed is an issue for the Mexican government not the US government and/or its citizens. Here’s a quarter, call somebody who cares.
Or is it $.35 now to make a call using a payphone?
So True Aunursa. That is right to the point.
Just add in the increased taxes and cost of services due to the millions of illegals using government programs that were never designed to support the legal free-loaders much less the illegal ones.
Here’s a bit of advice to Luis.
Go home.
Now.
As for the wife and kiddies back in Mexico.
It’s called a job. Get your mamma to watch the kids, or a day care, like most of the rest of us have to do.
Man these people make me ill.
Don’t forget the return of lovely diseases like Tuberculosis or Leprosy.
All together, now:
/sarc off
And the illegal employers are having a bad time, also. They just got raided by CA-OSHA (ICE - are you watching???)
Paying a generous $4 to $5 an hour (LESS RENT!), they offer no health or retirement benefits (sic) in these TWENTY(!) SF Bay Area pallet factories.
This serf/slave labor class should be a national embarrassment. Why is it not?
Oh Yeah. Try adhering to the tax code. Oh, wait. NEVERMIIIIIIND
To the illegals and all of their supporters I say
“bastante es bastante - no más - va a casa a México - y no deje la puerta golpearle en la salida
Translation for my non-Spanish speaking friends:
“Enough is enough - no more - go home to Mexico - and don’t let the door hit you on the way out”
They need to spend that $1.4 Billion on inforcing the laws here. There is a 7-11 by my house where every morning there are between 40-60 day laborers hanging around the parking lot. All ICE would need to do is drive around in unmarked vans and collect them. They will climb right in, easy. Instead of arriving at a job site, the fenced in area is manned by immigration officers.
It would be easy.
I am shocked that the Santa Cruz Sentinel called him an “illegal immigrant” I thought “undocumented worker” was the pc term. The latter always makes me think that they mean “I have valid documents, but I left them in my other pants so they wouldn’t get wet when I swam across the Rio Grande.”
ala Phil Collins:
“It’s no fun being an illegal a-li-en”
Tough. Now, go home.
And now comes word in Michigan that another child has been killed by an illegal alien, drunk driver. The story doesn’t say he is an illegal, but the radio stations are reporting he is.
When will we learn?
Thanks for the translation, it looked greek to me!
http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7887931&nav=0Rce
But that would make sense. And for government to make sense…not gonna happen.
Sadly not gonna happen.
I think I may have solved a crime?
John Ansell
no problem … I just wanted to be sure any spanish speaking illegals looking in would not misunderstand what I was saying …
Help me here. How does SINGLE MEN wiring money to Mexico relate to “wife and family?”
On February 19th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, ACHefty said:
On February 19th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, madchef said:
They need to spend that $1.4 Billion on inforcing the laws here… It would be easy.
But that would make sense. And for government to make sense…not gonna happen.
Sadly not gonna happen.
ACHefty#19
I can dream can’t I.
Boo-Freaking-Hoo, I don’t feel sorry for you. Go home.
Excellent site for illegal immigration information. This particular link shows the financial results of Illegal Immigration in this country.
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=research_localcosts
All together now:
BOO-FREAKIN’-HOO!
Things aren’t always rosy for those of us who ARE citizens.
We’re paying for private health insurance for my wife and children, rather than going to the emergency room for routine care and then stiffing the hospital, like illegals do.
We’re paying taxes to support the local schools, unlike illegals do.
If they’re looking for sympathy, don’t look for it here. I’m dealing with my own problems.
Perfesser.
Because they said so.
infidel4life/tre~
Y’all took the words right out of my mouth… So, I’ll say it again:
Boo-freakin’-hoo!
Rumor is that there are plenty of job openings in Canada, since the illegals refuse to go back home, keep going north until you are out of this great Nation.
Yep, just like the line from the same song put it:
“Over the border,
There lies the Promised Land;
Where everything comes easy,
You just hold out your hand!”
Seems that the Gravy Train is falling off the rails, and it’s about damn time.
Excellent question. One of the problems the Romans had was that in their slave-based economy people who worked in trades like construction and agriculture were driven into hopeless, grinding poverty - because the availability of slaves kept free labor wages in a state of permanent depression.
I don’t usually buy into the “America-as-the-new-Rome” comparisons, but sometimes one has to wonder.
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens
each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77%20
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs
such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school
education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
English!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare &
social services by the American taxpayers.
http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are
caused by the illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s
two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular,
their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in
the US
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens
that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal
aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine,
meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U.S. from the Southern
border.
Homeland Security Report:
http://tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute, ‘estimated that the total cost of
mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average
cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.’
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back
to their countries of origin.
http://www.rensecom/general75/niht.htm
14. ‘The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex
Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ‘.
http://www.drdskcom/articleshtml
The total cost is a whopping: $ 338.3 BILLION dollars a
year.
Are we THAT stupid???
Just jobs Americans can’t/won’t do. Like building homes and commercial structures, yard care and landscaping, fish, poultry and beef processing, maintaining and customizing automobiles, raising American children, cleaning hotel rooms and American households, working in restaurants, ect., ect., ect.
Where would our country be without an underclass of cheap labor who have no interest in assimilating to the culture that provides so many opportunities for them and the dependants south of the border?
C’mon, folks. This is THEIR continent. We are the “illegals”. After all, Columbus claimed this land for SPAIN.
It’s also hard out here being a legal American. Onerous taxation. Ever-expanding regulations. Inconsistent enforcement. Complexity. Entitlement. No common spirituality…only religious branding, bigotry and bickering.
If the end-game is keep the economy growing, what is the cost and result? Is more better? Why must everything continue to expand in terms of wages, profits and possession? Hasn’t this created an unsustainable and perverted reality: prosperity, peace and happiness predicated on turning the crank on the economy. Personally, peace, both earthly and of a cerebral nature are achievable without all the chattel and churn. Sadly, for them, all the pundits and capitalists-minded types can’t make any money when people become content with what they have. “Get out and go shopping” Bush’s famous comments on the heels of 9/11 ring loudly. We’re only as productive and useful when we’re going to Wal*mart…”Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa”
I’m very happy to live simply and peacefully each day. Ban and to hell with the bureaucrats who interject themselves and screw it ALL up.
What a poignant story. Kudos to the Santa Cruz Sentinel for getting the word out about our the plight of the oppressed. Can you imagine this kind of uncertainty is the reality for millions of our neighbors who are forced to live in the shadows and have been hit hard by the credit crisis. I wish Carlos, Luis the best as they struggle to make the American dream their own.
One of the richest men in the world, arguably the richest, resides in his nation of birth where he made all his billions - Mexico.
I have an associate degree and am studying for a bachelors degree only because I worked hard and achieved a high GPA and got a full scholarship at a public university, and I have been unable to find a job as yet, unless I work as an unpaid intern. I have American citizenship. I have a daughter. Don’t feed me your pitiful illegal alien stories.
Remember that former Border Patrol agents Ramos and Compean are eating regularly.
They are eating prison food and are involuntarily kept apart from their suffering families. What about their rights?
Would Jorge Boosh care to comment on their plight while eagerly handing the country and its remaining wealth over to Mexico?
I didn’t think so.
Would you care to comment on their situation, MM?
This is clearly illustrative of the humiliation these nobel migrant workers must endure. To have to eat an unauthentic Mexican food mockery, just because it’s made cheaply for the masses, is a slap in the face!
That someone should have to labor on the Sabbath is a crime! BTW, $40 will get you 40 tacos and a large fountain drink with free refills!
Solution:
Move your butt back to Mexico, apply for a job building their fence, and stay with your family where you belong.
I’d look for some serious government aide to come soon now that those poor illegal immigrants… a.k.a undocumented Americans are suffering so much. Forget all those DOCUMENTED legal Americans that paid taxes, didn’t break the laws of our country, and lost their jobs to foreign countries. No such pitty for them. Big pitty party for the illegals.
Go Home NOW.
You are too stupid to be here.
For the price of those tacos, you could have bought a loaf of bread and a jar of peanut butter. Yeah, store brand to keep it cheap enough, but it would feed you better and longer than a taco.
Expect the crime rates to go up…
No jobs = no money.
Get the picture?
BlameAmericaLast, check my link in post #20. They are already stealing TACOS!
Here’s a news story for you.
I live in an upperscale middle class neighborhood.
A few weeks ago, several people had a party…Super Bowl. Most neighbors walked to the home where the party was held.
One couple arrived home and found one of their SUVs missing. Of course they called the police.
Two days later during the night, they heard their golden retriever barking at the door. They turned on the outside lights and let the dog out.
Two illegals were stealing the 2nd SUV.
One of them shot the dog, killed her.
A few days later the SUVs were located in a field a few miles away. Stripped.
The illegals won. Nowhere to be found.
Dead pet, two destroyed vehicles, and two illegals on the run with money in their pockets.
Where is the justice in all of this?
Welcome to NC. Home of the freeloaders.
I have now applied for a gun permit.
I dare one to even step foot near my home!
gee, I’d like to have some compensation for the time I have spent trying to get MY ID back in order…how bout you desert lover? geez, if I got just 5 bucks an hour for that time spent I could probably by two round trip tickets to Hawaii for me and Whats her name.
Gee, I thoght trickle down economics didn’t work.
Luis, Don’t let the door hit on the back side on the way out.
Hey, has anyone heard what the status is on Ramos & Compean’s appeal, the last I heard it was in Dec. but I haven’t heard a thing in recent weeks?
They aren’t here to fulfil the “American Dream”. They are here only to earn money they can’t earn in their own country. They send a large portion of what they earn back home instead of putting it into the US economy.
If you asked them, their “dream” probably would be not to remain here, but to own property and have money in the bank in their own country in which they would return to retire.
The only use most illegals have for the US is jobs and social services, of which they should have neither.
Yesterday the OC Register published an article about a new on-line video game called “ICED”.
It starts with the premise of amnesty. Why not avoid deportation by coming here legally and obeying our laws once you are here?
Gee, maybe the Mexican gov’t will sponsor version 2.0 of the game.
http://www.ocregister.com/news/game-immigration-iced-1982346-players-video#
I heard recently that illegals are being penalized for ” loving children so much that
they have a lot” by possibly having to pay $10 a visit for prenatal care at county
hospitals in TX. Penalized? That’s a lot less that a citizen has to pay for prenatal
visits unless she is on Medicaid and I’m not familiar with the payments if any on it.
I’m also hearing that it is hard for the “newcomers” from OK and AZ to make a
decent wage here in TX. It’s because we are already overloaded and Perry and
Craddick won’t hear anything against Illegals. Human Events just sent another
bulletin and info to send to DC about another amnesty that the pols are trying to
sneak through.
I think that is the whole point, there will be more Americans concerned about the illegal alien’s welfare, then their own country. They got abused coming across the border, they got exploited while they were here, they don’t make much, they send it home so someone can eat…and now they get discarded. Will America pressure country’s like Mexico to take care of it’s own citizens? Where in this chain above is the “Compassion” that I am always told about by people like Geraldo Rivera.
I have a whole different definition of Compassion - My definition, no one gets abused.
You need a “make my day” law in NC. That story of 2 stolen vehicles and a dead pet would have ended with the dead pet and 2 dead illegals. They start shooting on YOUR property, you take them down. Pure and simple. They want to play Pancho Villa, you play Pershing. They drew first blood.
In the NC I grew up up in, they’d have been shot.
your question is a good one.
sorry, but don’t you know that as a US (nativist) Citizen your justice is in knowing that you have given up your rights to the illegals? by being so compassionate and providing them your freedoms and justices doesn’t that just make you feel so much better? and, after all it is all about feeling better.
because obeying laws doesn’t make them feel good. and we must not let them feel bad or experience any suffering. they are doing us all such a big favor taking jobs away from teenagers an lesser advantage legal citizens.
justice! really!
TX has a law stating that you have every right to protect your property with a gun.
I’m guessing that with so many illegals being unable to earn the wages that they
think they deserve, there will be a lot more illegals shot while trying to liberate
someone else’s property.
Apparently the sentinel has disabled comments on the story. Read it earlier and could read the comments left, just checked it again and it wouldn’t show comments. When I looked earlier most comments were against illegal aliens with a smattering of comments in Spanish. Now my question Did the reporter turn this guy over to ICE or does journalist principle allow aiding and abetting fugitives?
Unless it’s a first person shooter where I can bag my daily limit of illegals, I’m not interested.
Normally in this area, crime has NEVER been a issue. Most people have security systems and would not think of owning a gun. So many children around too.
Odd that NOTHING was in the local newspaper about this tragedy.
I’d shoot one in a heartbeat. If God judges me for protecting my own, then so be it. Man won’t.
The American dream at the expense of taxpaying American citizens.
We pay the price in a drained health care system (especially in the border states), MS13 gangs, rapists, murderers, pedophiles, and just about every other type of human garbage that Central and South America dumps across our borders. Not to mention the Middle Eastern terrorists who sneak across, because no one stops them. National and border security are paramount. Every country does it, and we’re not supposed to? “Plight of the oppressed” my red white and blue ass. “Good fences make good neighbors”.
That would be the result of a labor surplus or a work shortage.
Basic economics for the win.
Just read in a San Antonio paper that a man named Flores hired a woman and
brought her home. His grandmother told him to get rid of her so he hacked grandma (or should I say abuela?) up. Guess he killed the hiree also because they said 2 bodies and that they wouldn’t release the woman’s name until notification of next of kin. Don’t know if anyone was illegal since this is San Antonio, but would bet at least one of the parties isn’t (wasn’t?) a citizen.
Like the articale says, take it easy on them poor illegals…..
It Aint Easy Fleecing Green
(green money from us)……
/sarc off (?)
Dr. Lead Based paint is an appropriate name..the lead has obviously gotten to the Dr.
gayle,
Sorry about your neighbor’s SUV and (especially) dog, but maybe I am missing something here.
How do you know they were illegal? They weren’t caught or ID’d right?
Unemployed illegal aliens should be eligible for unemployment benefits and housing vouchers.
The things we do in this country have become so self-destructive and absurd, you’d think even Washington would realize they’d hit bottom and sign up for AA (Amnesty Anonymous) or something. Maybe someday soon when when barbarians pour over the border to rape, pillage, and scavenge what is left of our nation Washington will catch on.
They were seen by the owners.
They were yelling in Splanish…..not to mention there are illegals here that outnumber the rest of us.
Last summer, I saw a similarly weepy article in the Int. Herald-Trib about how the slowdown in the U.S. housing market was hurting the Mexican economy….as if that was our problem.
Supposedly Iceland is a better place to live than the U.S. How about a flotilla?
And the owners identified them as “looking” illegal or merely hispanic?
And did they speak that illegal dialect of Spanish I hear so much about?
You have to remember that this is a Santa Cruz paper. Like Berkeley, they live in trees and eat nuts in Santa Cruz for a ‘living’. As far as they are concerned everyone else in this world is suffering and it is our fault as Americans because of our ways.
There are more positive stories like ‘attrition’ that is taking place in places like New Jersey because our laws are finally being used and respected. Once we all get on that bandwagon this problem will drastically diminish.
Once again.
They were illegal.
This area is infested as is most of NC.
When I see a Mexican here in Arkansas I just asssume they are illegal..why?, because even the state admits that most of them are. Sure, I could be wrong, but usually I’m spot-on.
Once again.
Beyond them being Hispanic and speaking Spanish, how do you know?
I am sure NC has lots of legal immigrants and/or native born people of Hispanic descent who speak Spanish.
You are speculating. You may be right, maybe they are illegal, but you do not have any proof.
Methinks chapoutier is a lawyer…..
ajmontana
agree on that … I go to work every day … in 4 states counting my own … but the IRS only seems to want to harass the real me … not my multiple evil-twin-clones working in the other 3 states … go figure …
AJ and DL, funny you guys should be talking about IDs.
When I moved here to the land of Fruits, Nuts and Flakes I went to the DMV with a valid Florida Driver’s License, as well as all kinds of proof of who I am.
California made me produce a Birth Certificate before they would give me a Driver’s License.
Yet I suupose I could have gone to one of the local Home Depot’s and asked one of the Lot Lizards hanging out by the entrance where they got theirs…..
Take the billions Bush wants to give Mexico, and pay any illegal alien who wants to work to build our border fence. During a break for water, or food, ID the illegal aliens so they can get a work visa, and be taxed.
Put me in charge.
BTW, you lawyers STFU, you have gotten America in enough trouble.
SHoward
amazing isn’t it … citizens have to jump through hoops and stand on their heads producing proof of their identity while they give illegals anything they want without any proof of residency or citizenship …
happens more than people realize … but no one wants to belive it until it happens to them personally …
Some people are just born idiots.
I won’t mention any names.
(sticking my tongue out)
Guess SOMEONE has never heard of fingerprints?
Duh.
Leatherneck
use the construction of the border fence as a military exercise using all the construction battalions from all the services to do the work … I’d say 6 months top to a completed fence … no labor problems getting it done … no illegals crossing in or near the construction zones … win-win situation …
Gayle,
While it is true that some people are born idiots,
Some trolls studied really hard…..
*sniff* “sniff*
I’m all choked up reading about the hardships Luis and Carlos are forced to endure as illegal immigrants. How can we be so uncaring?
/sarcasm off
You aren’t supposed to be here anyhow. So, please, leave - now- and come back when you can do it legally.
I think that someone that is willing to WORK the lowest rungs of jobs and still yet send money to feed their fsamilies in Mexico …… should be admired.
I wonder, by the time he’s been deported and back across the border again, if the police have finished the paperwork on him:
http://www.myfoxcolorado.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=1375BA76DA95E6D5D481F55382F2B646?contentId=5814233&version=8&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1
Shows the state of things with illegals.
I typically reserve admiration for honest hardworking people. The means by which he arrived in the U.S. negates the honest aspect.
So, no. No admiration here.
Yeah, they’re hardworking alright.
Hard at stealing, driving while impaired, killing people, drugs, etc.
Most here illegally are up to no good.
If they don’t follow laws, then they break them.
That is not hard to comprehend for most of us.
Careful Gayle! You can’t prove that, so you might face another legal challenge!
SHoward, anyone using a french influenced ID, makes me wonder….liberal?
LOL!
I know some of these fine people are illegals The very fact that they are in our prisons shows the extent of the illegal latinos. I back Gayle.
I knew an illegal once…10 years ago. Owned a condo, drove a new Cambry and worked for the D.C. government. Still works there, though, now is legal…I think. Amazing.
On February 19th, 2008 at 6:01 pm, globmgmt said:
I think that someone that is willing to WORK the lowest rungs of jobs and still yet send money to feed their fsamilies in Mexico …… should be admired.
I guess the economy must be much better here in NY… a lot of our local invaders have “wives” & children here TOO. (w/section 8, food stamps wic, etc.) The pay ain’t so good but the perks are excellent!
If they had finger prints that proved these people were illegal, why didn’t you mention that?
Look, gayle is the one that made the bald assertion they were illegal immigrants. I asked her why she knew that. God forbid she should back up her assertion (not assumption) with anything more substantive with the mere fact that they were Hispanic.
The Latino gangs are killing Black people in and around LA. They are trying to take
over but instead of just killing Black gang members, they are killing people that are
just trying to get by and have a life. In Houston and some of the other TX cities that
like to think of themselves as sanctuary cities, Latinos are kidnapping other Latinos
and holding them for ransom. Saturday, my husband and I decided to try out a
new seafood place in Ft Worth. Everybody that he works with had been raving about
the place but we decided it was not for us. For one, the food was lousy. For two,
you almost had to speak Spanish in order to communicate with the help. I heard one woman speculating that ICE could make a killing in there picking up illlegals. I had to agree. Her friend said he thought they should eat and get out before
something bad happened. I didn’t get that feeling but wondered how many
citizens got turned down for jobs in the place.
I do not like the way the slave labor market is being run by the Globalists. I also realize we have Americans that can build the fence.
What I am getting at is what we should be doing as Christians. It does not mean getting run over by paying for illegal alien health care, or jail costs. We should sue Mexico for that.
I do think Mexicans who want to work should be helped. The free money to Mexico should be used here to bring these peole out, and ID’d. You, and I carry a few ID’s, and we pay taxes.
If I have to work, and pay taxes, every swinging dick has to also!
Its getting very bad too. And since our Mayor is out running around gathering latino votes for Hillary, nothing is being done about it. And you’re right, they are not just targeting rival gang memebers. They are hitting people at random just because the color of their skin. They are a sick people.
I hope that 5.0 earthquak on the border (California and Mexico) didn’t hurt the fence.
Most of the youtube clips I have seen of Blacks protesting illegals in the US seems to
be from around the LA area. One of them said that if they (the Blacks) don’t prevail
over the illegals (in LA), then the battle is lost nationwide. I don’t know about that, but I do know that as long as we have leaders in TX that put their friends “need” for
cheap labor above the wishes of their constituents and politicians in DC that can’t seem to get it through their heads that the American people do not want any kind of
amnesty for illegals, then we do have an uphill battle to fight. While I may feel sorry
for them at times, that does not negate the fact that they are here illegally and that
is where their problems lie. Go home. Apply for a green card. Come here legally.
Chap, why do you care?
I am not stating it again.
Get over yourself.
Anyone else wanna defend illegals?
Just read that Hodge, Zuniga, Torres, Pacheco, and Pacheco, were sentenced today for
smuggling illegals through a checkpoint outside of Laredo. Hodge, Zuniga, and Pacheco
were National Guard, on the border for Operation Jump Start. They used NG vehicles
and info to smuggle the illegals. Torres and his wife L Pacheco hid them in their home.
Hodge arranged for Torres to use NG vehicles for the operation and expedited Torres’
through the checkpoints when he was carrying illegals. I’ve always suspected that
most of the coyotes live on this side of the border.
Why don’t they immigrate to Canada? Canada has lax immigration rules. Canada is having a net loss of population each year. Perhaps not as many lawns to mow, but surely there’s plenty of snow to shovel.
I can’t remember who but, I will give credit to whomever wrote it here……”parasites eventually eat the host”
So true So true
#96 they actually are and Canada doesn’t know how to handle them either.
Just as many states are actually enforcing laws, and these same states are seeing an exodus, our congress is planning to legalize all of the aliens in this country.
Everyone, please annoy your representative and senator, do not let this even get to the floor.
Leatherneck
My problem with any level of allowing these illegal aliens to stay and work is that for every one of them that gets to stay that is one more that has been going through the proper channels and paperwork and all that the process entails that does not get to enter this country …
I’m with you DesertLover. It makes me sick to think that there could be someone who would really add to this country that isn’t going to be allowed to come here
because so many illegals are overrunning this country. Time was you had to be an
upstanding, healthy, productive person in order to come into this country. I have a
friend whose great, great aunt wasn’t allowed to come here from Ireland because she
had something wrong with her eyes that would eventually cause blindness. She was
a musician and the blindness would not have stopped her from playing, but it was
felt that this was a detriment to the country and therefore she was denied entry. I
cannot help but notice that no one is saying anything like that about the illegals.
TXRose
yep … the ignored facts are numerous … when is the last time anyone actually saw high school kids working at the local fast food in the summer? … no jobs there any more … same goes for almost all the other jobs that kids used to take in the summer … including the college kids … all taken by illegals …
President fox at one time did ask the Canadian PM Harper if he could take in some of his people. He said the US is taking quite a few and Canada could help out. What is Mexican Gov’t doing to create jobs? They don’t seem to have a problem creating more people. Concerning if they are legal or illegal doesn’t really matter. Here most of the gangs are children of national mexicans or they are illegals themselves and they fully perform their crimes whether they are legal or not. I have been robbed four times personally and never have seen any justice come of it. If some ever get caught their sentences are very light.
DesertLover,
I understand your point. I want to get the illegal aliens out of America too. How do we do that when POTUS is against us? Give him an idea?
For example, our tax money goes to the UN. Take that money and use it to get illegal aliens from Arkansas to become part of a UN police force. This is just an example.
If we say get out, they do not go anywhere. If we change our laws we see a lot of them leaving, but is that all of them? No, they go to another state that has a Gov. named Rick the prick Perry.
We need solutions that are fair, and right. I would like to see America take control of some of Mexico’s oil wells to pay for illegal alien jail costs, and deportations. Will that happen?
Put me in charge, and watch the UN, and Mexico eat my shorts while I fix the problem. Of course Chertoff is doing a great job.
Leatherneck …
Need all the other states to get pressured by the population to get the intestinal fortitude to pass laws like AZ and OK and a few others that makes it no longer acceptable practice to hire the illegals … no jobs everywhere means they leave the country … not just go to another state …
The enforcement also needs to come down HARD on businesses that knowingly employ illegal labor. The argument that US citizens won’t do the work is a total crock. These businesses pay a pittance of what the market will bear, knowing that people here illegally are not going to file any complaints.
They hire people at a wage that forces them to live 5 to 10 families to a house. They do not provide welfare plans such as medical because illegals are willing to work without it. The costs of those services, however, are passed on to the local community in the form of higher taxes or higher fees for medical services.
And because the wagesd are so low, they qualify for state and federal welfare plans and assistance.
These employers are passing their employee costs onto the general public, and that is a crime.
The ironic thing is what is going to happen when their “shadow” employees are suddenly American citizens. Employers will then be forced to pay a living wage for the work being done, will be forced to carry insurance that they don’t carry now, and will be forced to deal with the issues that until then have been hidden by virtue of the reluctance of illegals to report problems.
And I get tired of hearing how Reagan granted amnesty, so why not do it now. The estimate of the illegal population in Reagan’s time was less than 1% of the US population (actual numbers turned out to be double the estimate). A comprimise was struck, with the understanding that amnesty would only be granted in conjunction with strict enforcement in the future.
The issue we are facing today amounts to closer to 10% of the US population. A huge impact on all aspects of our country, and an event never contemplated by any immigration policy going back to the 1700’s. Such an addition to the populace that does not want to assimilate, that is proven to have no respect for the rule of law, and that thinks the US should be subordinate to their home country (Like the “Mexico first” crowd) is a formula to turn the US into a multicultural mess and the Constitution into a historic relic.
And to be certain, any promise of amnesty in exchange for strict enforcement will be likely have the same reliability as those past promises - there will be no enforcement.
Mexico and other countries need to sort out their own problems without exporting them here. While it certainly improves the quality of life in Mexico, the economic and human toll it is taking here has reached tragic proportions.
The big problem with any amnesty is that the word goes out to other
countries that the US is giving away citizenship and here they come. This is one of the
major reasons that we have so many here and more coming every day. As long as people
of any country think that they can get automatic citizenship they will try for it and I can’t
blame them because if I was in their shoes…I just might feel the same.
Legislators from Mexican State Angry at Influx of…Mexicans
http://wizbangblog.com/content/2008/01/20/legislators-from-mexican-state-angry-at-influx-ofmexicans.php
I lost sleep over this last night. I kept crying over the tragedy occurring right here in America where people who want to work can’t. And the misery caused by people like you who have hearts filled with vicious bigotry. It’s time to let all Americans have a piece of the pie.
Dr. Lead, I dearly hope you just forgot to add the “/sarc off” to the end of your prose.
Right now, there are people with Bachelor degrees, Masters and even PhD’s who are waiting in line to get into this country from places like India, Africa and Western Europe. We need these people to fill high-tech and highly productive positions that would benefit not just the U.S., but anyone else that we happen to help out.
And you honestly think it’s a tragedy that we insist tomato pickers follow the law, too?
Dr. Lead - stop sniffing the paint. It’s not bigotry, it’s called rule of law. And they’re not Americans, they’re illegals. Big, huge, monumental difference.
Dr Lead has to be pulling someone’s leg. Americans? Americans only in the fact that
Mexico is on this continent. Someone needs a reality check.
Chapoutier and Gayle
I lived in NC for a very long time. I
NEVER once saw a hispanic speaking person…never. Granted I moved back to
Florida in the late 80’s BUT if these
people are legal why don’t they speak
English even when stealing a car AND if they are legal or have been born here, they should be speaking English. And if they were born here…how did they get to be SO MANY in so few years?
I worked at a CLINIC…one of those that passes out freebies to women and children…..NEVER saw or heard a hispanic speaking person…NEVER.
Actually, never saw or heard one here in Florida until the last 10 years…so
CHAP….how did they make all these people legal in so few years or did they take growth hormones in order to grow up so fast? And let’s see, last figure I read said that 70 per cent of the “growth” in this country was due to immigration…does not specify legality…but being as the immigration depts are backed up into the year 3000….I am not sure how SO many in this country became legal SO FAST.
So Chap, methinks, your name is French,
but you sound like a card carrying member LaRaza.
Lot’s of strong feelings here.
There is nothing new about all of this. We simply have to all start acting on a local level. For example, when getting bids for work on your house, demand that contractors follow federal law and check citizenship status. Follow Numbers USA (website) and learn what other states are doing. Send faxes and letters to our “representatives.”
If Mexican representatives are crying about their natives returning home and the drop in remitances, then it seems that the pressure put on states and local governments to deal with the illegals is working. We need to keep it up.
We need to demand accountability of our elected officials.
Keep up the pressure. We can afford to take care of our own. Mexico needs to take care of their own.
Just reality.
You can’t see my fingers, but this is the world’s tiniest violin playing “My Heart Bleeds For You (Them)”
Not.
Yes #31 WE ARE that stupid!!!