A lesson for John McCain Update: McCain responds– “It’s not true;” Update: TNR reports on the “constipated” NYT
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If you lie down with MSM dogs, you wake up with stories like this.
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Allah’s got the latest involving the McCain camp’s claim that The New Republic pressured the NYTimes to run the story.
Dogs. Fleas. Karma.
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Parting thought number one: Instead of dredging up old news, maybe the National Fishwrap of Record could have actually broken fresh ground and pursued the George Soros-open borders-Reform Institute angle. The Reform Institute is mentioned in the NYT article, but only in the context of rehashing past reports on the think tank collecting “hundreds of thousands of dollars in unlimited donations from companies that lobbied the Senate commerce committee” and paying the salaries of key McCain aide Rick Davis.
Parting thought number two: Maybe McCain will really mean it now when he jokes about the “jerks from the media.”
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2/21 9:37am Eastern. McCain holds a press conference this morning to respond to the NYT: “It’s not true.”
John McCain denied a romantic relationship with a female telecommunications lobbyist and said a report by The New York Times suggesting favoritism for her clients is “not true.”
“I’m very disappointed in the article. It’s not true,” the likely Republican presidential nominee said as his wife, Cindy, stood alongside him during a news conference called to address the matter.
McCain described the woman in question, lobbyist Vicki Iseman, as a friend.
The newspaper quoted anonymous aides as saying they had urged McCain and Iseman to stay away from each other prior to his failed presidential campaign in 2000. In its own follow-up story, The Washington Post quoted longtime aide John Weaver, who split with McCain last year, as saying he met with lobbyist Iseman and urged her to stay away from McCain.
Weaver told the Times he arranged the meeting after “a discussion among the campaign leadership” about Iseman.
McCain said he was unaware of any such conversation.
Here’s more on the political advantages of going to war with the NYT.
Here’s the vid of McCain’s press conference. He seems unusually subdued:
More reax from conservatives here.
Update 2:15pm Eastern. TNR –not exactly in the best position to be wagging its finger at anyone else about poor jounalism, but I digress–runs its story behind the NYT’s thin, recycled story. My favorite paragraph:
Inside the Times newsroom, the Drudge item sent the McCain piece into hiding, making it both tightly guarded and “a topic of conversation,” as one staffer put it. “The fact that it ended up on Drudge pushed it into secrecy,” added another staffer. “The paper gets constipated on these things,” a veteran former Times staffer said, describing the editors’ deliberations over whether to run the piece.
I find it amusing that the paper had constipation–and then ended up with diarrhea all over its front page.
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Allah’s got the best summation: “They got a tip in November, threw four reporters at it, couldn’t substantiate the affair with anything sturdier than hearsay, then dithered about whether to spike it or toss it out there. The compromise solution: Bury it at the end of a long rehash of McCain’s involvement with the Keating Five, to give it some heft by association.”
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It’s a silly waste of time converting threads meant to discuss the given topics at hand into opportunities to toss flames. A better use of time would even be:
“Counting flowers on the wall,
That don’t bother me at all.
Playing Solitaire till dawn,
With a deck of fifty-one.
Smoking cigarettes and watching Captain Kangaroo.
Now, don’t tell me I’ve nothing to do.”
Nonsense. If you’re that gullible, I’m surprised you aren’t an Obama follower. There are plenty of differences, important ones too. I’m not a McCain fan, but I haven’t lost my mind either. Sadly, some on our side have, proving the democrat party isn’t the only one filled with the naive and the stupid.
The choice is between a stone-cold socialist, and a moderate conservative republican. Anyone who can’t tell the difference shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
Emjem, you again refuse to address the facts. All you do is accuse and vent. I have no need to vent, I don’t personnalize things people say on this blog, as if they are meant for me, as I have seen you do on occasion, and I don’t try to convince people not to vote for McCain. That is an outright lie on your part, as many other of your mischaracterizations of what I have said. Why don’t you just stick to facts. I simply point out facts about why I cannot vote for MCCAin. AGAIn point me to ONE SINGLE EXAMPLE of me telling anyone not to vote for McCain, just one. I pointed to your quotes of you saying that if we cast a 3d party or no vote for president we who refuse to vote McCAin are, what was it, we are “petulent children” and casting an “empty pointless protest vote”.
You cannot find such a quote from me. All the posts have been a defense of my position for not voitng for McCain, by pointign out what I find wrong about his positions. I am not going to do the research for you AGAIN. Enough said, you are starting to talk in circles and I won’t participate in UNRESEARCHED UNSUBSTANTIATED chit chat.
What would be your working definition of “a moderate conservative”, xblade?
Barry F, thanks for the info on Bob Bennett.
I saw several people, including Ann Coulter give the knock-down on that lie right after THIS YEAR’S SC Primary, when McCain repeated it, himself, in spite of knowing the investigation had not only exonerated Bush but PROVEN that NOBODY got those “said” phone calls – and that in the whole mess, McCain himself was the only one refusing to present all the bonafides, to clear himself of slandering Bush THEN.
I look for lots of stories about LOTS of women to come out, now, and a new “Bimbo Eruption Committee” to be formed to accompany the “Truth Squad”.
I will not vote for the likes of John McCain.
Maybe totally a lie of his own fabrication.
That REALLY makes me doubt anything else that Bennett said.
This is a classic smear to drive his negatives up and approval rating down. Now a bunch of people won’t vote for McCain because they think he cheated on his wife. I’m astounded the NYTimes would print such a story. It’s right up there with Rather’s NationalGuardGate fake letter.
You mean to say that citing things like McCain Feingold Thompson, and McCain Kennedy Shamnesty, Gang of 14, and the Truth Squad isn’t evidence to you?
Well, that is your own problem, then, isn’t it.
It sure enough shows you don’t live v ery close to the border if McCain Shamnesty has no impact on you – then you haven’t “FELT” the personal impact, yet, like most of us in the border reagions.
RIC:
You’re being emotional and personalizing. You are also endlessly tossing flame (thanks purple) on the funeral pyre that is your point of view. You’ve repetivitvely beat me over the head with it quite enough thank you.
Here’s what I discern from our exchange:
1. You don’t support McCain
2. I do support McCain (albeit reluctantly…though that’s snort worthy to some)
3. You will not change my mind.
4. I will not change your mind.
5. Stop FLAMING me because I disagree (thank you Purple).
6. If you or anyone else makes value judgements on McCain supporters, I/they will defend myself/themselves.
7. I respect your opinion, now please do likewise. If you cannot, stop talking to me and jam with your troupe.
i think we all can agree that we’ll just disagree on X,Y or Z, emjem. Otherwise we go round and round – ever seen “National Lampoon’s European Vacation?” LOL :
Look kids! It’s Big Ben! (YouTube)
Wow. What a weasel.
Hold On TNR is critiquing the NYT? Really the people who brought us Scott Thomas Beauchamp and his UNsourced accounts of service in Iraq…come on! The Jayson Blair Time’s is getting another infection – virus from the bomb throwers. I can’t wait for the purple prose.
Isn’t that pretty much what TNR said about their Beauchamp fantasies?
Hmmm…”purple” prose? Well, okay, if you insist!
Roses are red,
Windows are glass,
Befriending the NYT
will bite ya in the …
I cannot figure out why people are blaming the NYT. If you think this minor scandal article is the worst that will come out, there are hundreds more that will be far worse.
You should be mad that the RNC engineered a McCain win starting in Florida allowing independents to switch their registration on Super Tuesday.You can thank Charlie Christ(r) and Mel Martinez(r) for that illegal bit of vote manipulation.
Ask yourself how the Huckster was able to come out of no where to block the Romney vote. The Huck received funding from the RNC when real conservatives were smeared and locked out of RNC matching funds so McCain would become the nominee.
Wait until the Washington DC madam story hits the wires or the mafia family connections with his wife that resulted in him getting elected in Arizona. AZ voters have long known about the carpetbagger Juan McCain being a liar, corrupt and a traitor to his country.
If you think that the RNC did not know about his baggage, your being naive.
So if you want to get mad, be mad at the RNC that engineered McCain to be our nominee not the NYT.It is the GOP elite that has betrayed conservatives.
I, for one, hope we end up with a brokered convention so a real nominee gets the nod.
Ombre:
Please refer to my post to RIC. Actually, I have been affected by the immigration situation. I also know that none of the candidates will fix it, deport immediately, or secure the border to my satifaction (unless you count a third of the “border fence”).
How have I been affected? Here’s a few examples:
1. When I visit my in-laws in downstate NY, I often see the daily lines of day laborers waiting for their next “job.”
2. As a substitute teacher in CO, I had the unlucky task of teaching both native born and illegal immigrants (whether or not they were legal I have no idea).
3. How did I know (like the gut feeling) that some of these kids were illegal… outright neglect, lack of basic English language skills (on the part of both parent/child).
4. I’m also bilingual and some have admitted to me that they don’t have “papers.” Some don’t have health insurance because of fear of discovery- I saw the pathetic evidence in the discovery of a very ugly cavity one 5 year old student of mine had (I was very angry at the parent and barely contained it).
5. I personally witnessed the disgusting behavior of Latino teens talking up how they were gonna cut class just so they could go to the Amnesty Marches in Colorado Springs. I actually spoke up against it… they basically said I was a white b*tch gringa and that they were “owed” things.
Personally, I had no respect for the kids and their parents and how they feel that they’re entitled to American citizenship after breaking our laws. Public schools also are well aware of who these kids are but because of privacy laws- they can’t turn ‘em in (well, that’s the excuse they use).
Thank you for generalizing me. The only difference between you and me is that I’m a realist. I don’t like the immigration situation but also recognize that it won’t be solved by either party unless we get very strong Conservative candidates into the Senate and Congress. That is my goal since all 3 pres. candidates look alike (more or less depending on the issue). Since this year is trending democratic and people care more about the economy and “free healthcare” I just don’t see any of this happening. I haven’t given up hope but it is what it is.
Sorry if I’m long-winded… RIC doesn’t like it, sorry if you feel the same.
RIC You go girl.. Good job.!!!
To be fair, Scotty, the NYT and the media were co-conspirators. He is the liberal medias’ candidate – until it comes time to sink him.
Even then they’d still go after the nominee with the same shameless fury. Though if the Dems also didn’t decide until the convention at least it would be more of a fresh start.
Twiggman:
What are you congratulating RIC on out of curiosity?
Purple:
I fear you’re right. McCain should have seen it coming. Anything out of the NYT, even an endorsement, should have a question mark next to it. /sigh/
This whole election cycle is a mess and McCain’s history of dissing conservatives will bite him. Just see the reactions already on this blog. They are well-deserved but also counterproductive.
On Friday before the election, as in DUI story on Bush in 2000, and LAT story on Arnold just before his first election.
Maybe he should have said “thanks, but no thanks” to the NYT endorsement. But I think doing battle with the NYT now certainly doesn’t hurt him with the base. Or with folks in general, I think they usually know a sleazy cheapshot when they see it.
I see he has a slim lead in Texas polls over Obama; he could use some big state wins.
James Carville predicted this back in 1998 he said future canidates will have to pass a purity test. John Edwards already went through this cycle with his supposed love child with a staffer.
http://www.sddt.com/News/article.cfm?SourceCode=n9802241c
Thanks Purplepeep, TNR intimidates the NYT? into running innuendo, with questionable sourcing, you can’t make this stuff up. Really this is what the Left has come to? I can tell they don’t learn from experience very well. TNR -all the Stuff, I can Print and get away with.
I forgot to mention that now since the NYT set the standards, the Right can come out with all their innuendo,rumors and gossip, about Obama and Clinton. The Swamp is going to fill up pretty fast.
The New World Order’s mouth, the NYT, throws a bunch of lies at McCain. Why?
Just about everyone on the right rallies around John McCain now, plus it splits the country. This action brings change.
The same thing in Kosovo me thinks.
And then there’s TNR taking the NYT to task for being “constipated”.
“That’s comedy gold, Jerry! Gold!!”
Ombre Rose – Don’t waste your vote on Romney (was my guy too) in the TX primary..Join me and vote for Obama. Gonna be the only time I can vote AGAINST Hillary. Thinking of wearing my red, white & blue vest with the elephants for the occassion. Bet I’m not the only one that will be doing that. I’m betting the reporting will be light Rep turnout and record Dem…LOL
Quick, Someone leak a national security secret so that the NYT can regain its self esteem.
Purple:
I agree with you about the comedy bit. I don’t think NYT has a bloating problem anymore though. They seem to be flushing out a lot of staff and advertisers.
May I suggest the following to solve both the NYT’s and Frank Rich’s “constipation sensation” (props for Harry Potter Book 6 had to use it:
Dulcolax…
No more potty analogies I promise…
On February 21st, 2008 at 12:57 pm, RealImmigrantChick said:
Oh, puhleeeze.
Pardon me while I puke.
As far as the NYT goes, their credibility with me is so bad, that if they said the sun rose today, I’d go outside and look…just to make sure. When you are having trouble with an opponent, spread a rumor about morality. As I said a few days ago, let the muckraking begin! Next week, the Obamas never got married!
IR:
Hey there. How ya doin’? That was about my reaction as well. No offense to RIC but she’s been lecturing me reams about Mr. McCain. I don’t think I’ve lectured anybody except perhaps Rags about his historical analogy (sorry can’t quite shush the history teacher background in me).
Hope you’re feeling good. Have fun in the “snake pit.”
RIC needs to get the hell over herself.
There goes Irish ROse again, can you be more elequent please. WOW, I am blown away by your way with words. Maybe you should be BO’s VP. “Puke”, so clever, so smart, I am speechless. I have never been a supporter of bullimia, but whatever rocks your boat.
emjem24, May I suggest something better than dulcolax. I would write a prescription for Lactulose…10cc an hour. In 4 hours, you would have a brand new, feeling refreshed, NYT. They don’t have regular constipation, they have “high end” constipation.
I wonder if anyone wants to guess what the next McCain story will be and when it will come out? I heard Bob Bennet say that he gave the NYT lots of cases where this woman’s lobbying was turned down by McCAin, but they ignored it. However, I still wonder, why would McCAin hire someone like Bob Bennet? The Clinto Paula Jones lawyer? A life long democrat? It just does not look very good.
I guess I missed the chance to find out. Franklin F’n Foer was just on Hardball talking to Chris Matthews and all I got was the tail end. No doubt Matthews asked him that question — I’ll have to wait for the transcript.
Yes Franklin F’n Foer to discuss ethics in running the McCain smear. It doesn’t get any better than this.
RIC:
You miss, are a self-aggrandizing narcissistic little bully masquerading as a person of faith.
Here’s what I think about you, miss:
Your opinions are neither rational nor educated, they are for the most part based on the same talk-points and drivel that obsessed and misguided right-wing talkhosts and pundits like Rush and Laura spew from their own talk shows and columns on a daily basis.
You seem unable to think for yourself, and your posts are indicative of a thought process that is strikingly shallow.
Oh dear, have I attacked you? Have I insulted you? Have I hurt your widdle feelings?
Go ahead, RIC – cry victimhood. Accuse me of an ad hom. attack. Cry like a toddler about hurt feelings, and then fling some invection. You always do.
No worries. I’m sure that the resident mob of virulent narcissists who are watching and waiting in the wings will show up any moment now, to defend your “honor” and stick it to the “evil McCainiac”.
I for one am sick and tired of the provocative, passive-aggressive bullying and hypocrytical, infantile whining about victimization here on this blog by some of the regulars. I wish to h*ll that Michelle would do something about it before the lot of you stifle any chance of intelligent debate here at MM, but I fear it will never happen.
There are a lot of people (members of more prominent blogs than this one) who have lost all interest in Michelles’ blog because of rude, proselytizing
bible-thumpers and people like you who dominate every single discussion and gang up like a pack of rabid dogs on anyone with an opposing opinion, I’m sorry to say.
On February 21st, 2008 at 9:43 am, MrScribbler said:
I’m glad that someone else here can see the blinding hypocrisy.
/the incessant, retaliatory whining from the emotionally wounded “victims” will now commence.
Proves…
PROVES…???
It was an historical analogy. You know, the kind based on HISTORY.
You only prove those by having them realized.
Can you see why nobody here who understands logic can dialog with you?
You go down the road just so far…then
the wheels fly off one side, and you go careening off into the deep, dark woods.
I think you have lot more to worry about from Michelle, since you have flagrantly violated her TOS.
But that’s just my opinion.
Nice job of “moderation”, BTW.
Very persuasive.
As I can still log in this morning, rags, I clearly don’t have as much to worry about as you like to think.
A bucket sometimes fills by drips, Rose.
But, withal, you are a known quantity here.
BTW, why can’t you tell us which of the conservative values/rights/positions you would care to “moderate”?
What particular brand of Christian allows you to excoriate people as you do…
without pangs of guilt, I mean?
Simple questions…give ‘em a whirl.
Wow. All this furor over alleged innuendo of McCain and Iseman. Imagine the poop-storm if Ms. Iseman came forward with a personal story of how he raped her!
Oh, wait…
Ya know, all this “moral outrage” in behalf of McCain might be impressive if he had any character to defend.
However, considering how he got the wife standing on stage beside him these days, I am sooooooooo not impressed.
And yes, Carville, there was ALWAYS a morals purity standard for our Presidents, before Clinton. IF some skated by, it was then because of the same thing now – the Press had their own agenda and did not let the American people know everything THEY knew.
The Press on all sides of the aisle is obviously really heavy into it, THIS YEAR.
You are doing absolutely great, Rags. Totally smashing.