The swan song of Hillary Rodham Clinton?; Update:Clinton and Obama are now against the Secure Fence Act they both voted for; Update: Hillary snarks on Obama’s “change that you can Xerox;” Update: Hillary gets shrieky over universal health care; Update: Hillary ends on a Miss Congeniality/valedictory note
Scroll down for updates…here’s the “change that you can Xerox” video… “Lifting whole passages from someone else is not change you can believe in, it’s change you can Xerox.” Who wrote it? Knowing Washington, we’ll know soon enough…Hillary’s ending statement is being categorized by all the talking heads as “valedictory”…Like I said: Swan song…
No, you can’t count her out. But just what exactly can Hillary Clinton do during tonight’s CNN debate in Texas to turn things around? What would define a “win” for Hill tonight–short of a full Obama meltdown, which isn’t going to happen? The show begins at 8pm. This ABC poll says she’s ahead in Ohio and it’s tight in Texas. Will the new anti-Obama 527 come up?
Stand by for the liveblog. Popcorn ready, but no Red Bull.
Update 8:02pm Eastern. This debate is co-sponsored by open-borders, Spanish-language media giant Univision. Founded by McCain national campaign finance co-chair Jerry Perenchio.
Univision anchor Jorge Ramos is one of the questioners.
Look for plenty of opportunities for shamnesty pandering tonight.
8:06pm Eastern. Clinton gets the first opening statement. She registered voters in Austin and San Antonio. Clinton invokes the late Barbara Jordan. It’s Jordan’s birthday. Jordan, a staunch amnesty opponent and outspoken immigration enforcement activist, would be rolling over in her grave knowing Clinton’s using her name. Clinton invokes Ann Richards. Eh. Clinton brags about starting S-CHIP. Segues into health insurance company-bashing. Mentions HER EXPERIENCE.
Not a word about immigration. Or those, ahem, holes in the wall.
8:10 pm Eastern. Obama’s turn. He says he’ll be friends with Hillary after, she was friends with her before. Unification, baby. He’s sick and his voice is hoarse. Obama mentions the predatory loan victims he mentioned the other day. Uh-oh! Hillary forget to mention her pet issue! Must be cursing under her breath. Obama mentions jobs moving overseas. Obama mentions his anti-war bracelet. Doesn’t mention his lack of a flag lapel pin. What’s lacking right now is not good ideas. The problem is that Washington has become a place where good ideas go to die. (Applause). Now comes the usual anti-special interest attack…and the “bring people together” spiel.
Now, Obama invokes Barbara Jordan. “I want America to be as good as its promise.”
Univision’s Jorge Ramos to Hillary: “Would you be willing to sit down with Raoul Castro at least just one?”
Hillary: “I hope we have an opportunity…I’ll be looking for changes…releasing political prisoners, freeing up the press…I would be willing to reach out once they demonstrated they were truly willing to change direction…I would not meet with him until there was evidence that change was happening…”
Campbell Brown to Obama: “Presumably, you would meet with Raoul Castro?” Obama: “I would meet without preconditions…but with ‘preparations’ first…We have to talk to our enemies, not just to our friends…” Wants loosening of restrictions on remittances and travel restrictions. “I wouldn’t normalize relations until we saw change…I support the eventual normalization.”
No, I don’t get exactly what his position is. Do you?
Hillary wants to reach out to Iran. She would “use bipartisan diplomacy!” The era of unilateralism and arrogance of this administration is over. Applause. Hillary’s beaming. She’s really, really happy with her answer.
Obama wants to get a last talk-to-our-enemies word in. “It’s important for us in undoing the damage that has been done to take this step.”
8:23pm Eastern. John King changes to the economy. “How would Pres. Obama be different in managing the nation’s economy?”
“Restore balance and fairness.” End tax breaks to companies overseas. Offset payroll tax. Repeal Bush tax cuts. Applause. “Create a green economy!” Wave the magic wand: Windmills! Solar power!
Hillary: “The wealthy and well-connected have had a president for the last seven years. It’s about time the rest of us had a president for us.”
“The rest of us”–you know, like the Clintons, who have a net worth of between $10-$50 million Snort.
Hillary: I can’t concentrate on what she’s blabbering about, but she started shrieking about “Bush’s War on Science.”
Jorge Ramos goes to immigration. He’s complaining about federal raids. “Would you consider stopping these raids until comprehensive immigration reform passes?”
Hillary: “I would consider that, except in egregious situations.” She demagogues about children being left without parents. Babies left without parents.
She’s for cracking down on federal employers, but not doing anything about illegal alien employees. “We need a path to legalization to bring the immigrants out of the shadows.” Blah-blah. “If they committed a crime, they should be deported. But a path to everyone else.” Who illegally entered the country. Would introduce “comprehensive immigration reform” in her first 100 days.
Obama. He’s for immigration reform, too. “It’s absolutely critical that we tone down the rhetoric.” “We have seen hate crimes skyrocket.”
No, unfortunately, he’s not talking about illegal alien gangs targeting black Americans.
Obama mentions the legal immigration backlog and increasing fees.
“We have to improve relations with Mexico.” He assails Bush for dropping the ball on Mexico. “We haven’t seen the kind of outreach and cooperative work.”
Clueless.
Two words: Merida Initiative.
8:37pm Eastern. John King raises the border fence.
King to Hillary: Would you commit tonight to finish the fence and speed up construction or say, wait a minute, do we really want to do this?
The UT-Brownsville would have part of its campus cut off. Passport requirements to the north are interfering.
“We need to review this. We were voting for the possibility that where it was appropriate, it would be built. Bush is going off the deep end.”
1) That’s not what the law said.
2) The problem is not that Bush is going too far. It’s that they have dragged their feet and pandered every bit as much as the Democrats.
Hillary says we should do “Smart Fencing.” Now, she doesn’t want physical barriers.
Even though she (and Obama both) voted for the Secure Fence Act.
Obama: “The key is to consult with local communities…I will reverse that policy…” He wants everything but a fence now.
Obama invokes the specious “we can’t deport all 12 million undocumented” card.
8:43pm Eastern. Obama wants to pass the DREAM Act illegal alien tuition benefits legislation.
Jorge Ramos speaks Spanish. “Is there any down side to the US becoming a bilingual nation?”
Hillary: It’s important for Americans to become bilingual. But it’s important that English remain our common, unifying language.
8:47pm Eastern. Commercial break. Nasty Hillary has not made an appearance tonight.
All platitudes, no vinegar tonight.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
8:52pm Eastern. John King tries to wake everyone up with a question about the “parallel universe” in which Hillary/Obama attack each other on the campaign trail and talk cordially next to each during debates. King: Are you saying your opponent is all hat and no cattle and how can you say that after the last 40 minutes?
Hillary: “I do offer solutions…it’s part of my life.” Blah, blah. No attacks. She’s Miss Congeniality. There are differences between our records. Hillary mentions the Hardball exchange with Kirk Watson, who couldn’t name an accomplishment of Obama’s. “Actions speak louder than words.”
Obama: “I do think actions speak louder than words. Which is why over the last 20 years, I’ve acted a lot to provide health care, reform criminal justice system, reform ethics system, create transparency in government…mentions wounded warriors at Walter Reed who had to pay for their meals and phone calls before he came to Senate…they would say I’m not just talk, but action.”
8:56pm Eastern. Obama ribs Clinton for calling his supporters “delusional”…he mentions all his newspaper endorsements in Texas…”I think they perceive the reality in Washington quite clearly…The reason that this campaign has done so well that people understand that it’s not just a matter of putting forward policy positions…if we can’t inspire people to get involved in their government, get beyond racial divisions, regional devisions, religious devisions…I’m running for president to start doing something about suffering and so are the people behind my campaign.”
Huge applause. Longest applause of the night.
8:58pm Eastern. Campbell Brown brings up Hillary plagiarism charges. Obama says Deval Patrick gave him the lines to use. The suggestion that this is plagiarism is silly. Big applause. This is where we start getting into silly season and people start getting discouraged. What people want is how are we going to get good jobs and wages, college is affordable, etc. What I’ve been saying in these speeches–and I have to admit, some of them are pretty good–big applause–I’ve been talking about changing tax code, college loans, bringing end to war in Iraq…We should be spending time lifting people up.
Well, I’d say he has pulled the rug out under Hillary on this issue.
Hillary has a frozen smile. If you’re candidacy is about words, they should be your own. These aren’t changes that you can believe in, it’s change you can Xerox.
9:01pm Eastern. Boos. Hillary condescends. “You are a passionate speaker.”
Obama: “That’s not right.” Hillary is booed.
Hillary talks about foreclosures, health care. “We’ve got to look hard at the difficult challenges we face once George Bush is gone.” Blah blah.
Obama moves on to talking about health reform differences. Old territory.
9:06pm Eastern. Obama razzes Hillary over her secretive conduct during the 1994 health care debacle. Score.
Commercial break.
9:13pm Eastern. Hillary is getting shrieky over the health insurance mandate thing.
Guess what? Newsflash, Clinton camp: This thing has been rehashed over 5-6 other debates. It’s not a winning issue for Hillary. It’s not damaging Obama.
9:22pm Eastern. Rehashing Iraq. Leadership. Change. Nothing you haven’t heard before.
9:33pm Eastern. Obama gets a question on earmarks. He mentions teaming up with GOP Sen. Tom Coburn on googling for government to open up process.
Hillary has the audacity to talk about the US borrowing money from China to give to Saudi Arabia.
Her voice is getting really, really intolerable.
Agh.
9:38pm Eastern. Campbell Brown asks really, really dumb questions. She needs to host a daytime talk show and stay there. “What was your moment of crisis?” Obama recounts his entire life. Hillary jokes about how she’s “been through many crises in her life.” Smiles. Basks in applause.
I can’t have caffeine. I can’t have caffeine. I can’t have caffeine.
Hillary turns the question to Americans who have had real crises. Recounts meeting soldiers at Brooks Army Medical Center. What she’s been through is nothing compared to what ordinary Americans go through.
It’s a better answer than the self-absorbed Messiah’s.
9:44pm Eastern Hillary: “I’m absolutely honored, absolutely honored to be here with Barack Obama.”
Shakes his hand. Ick.
Big applause. “Whatever happens, I hope we can say the same about the American people.”
She’s basking. He’s kicking himself.
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Ignatius Reilly said:
I’m guessing that means you’re perfectly willing to turn the Nation over to a Marxist/socialist so your principles remain intact.
Seems to me like killing the patient to stop the disease….
I don’t like McCain. But he looks remarkably good when compared to BHO and HRC.
I’m with TXRose on this one. And I believe your final paragraph is more self-analysis than an attack on her.
I cast my first presidential vote for Reagan after being a Ford supporter. I make my
presidential voting decisions on what is best for the country and the party in that
order. To call me petulant is to stoop to name calling instead of asking exactly why
I have decided to vote for a candidate that I did not support. I cannot in good
conscience not vote and then stand there while a socialist, with the backing of the
Dems in DC ruins this country. McCain may not be the candidate that I want to vote
for, but I believe that being a Republican with a Dem majority, he won’t have as easy
a time of it in DC as a Dem would. True, he hangs out with the other side now, but it
won’t be that way if he is the President. I also remember that Reagan said we must
ultimately pull together Oh, and I don’t take cheap shots. When it comes to speaking my mind, I sometimes have a hard time with being even slightly confrontational. Most pisces do.
I see a candy cane fence with gumdrop trails, windmill powered cars, free abortions and a gay pride parade every sunday. Cabinet positions for our pals Osama, Raul, Kim Jung Il and a 90% tax rate on the rich.
God help us if either of these two get into the white house.
Thank you MrScribbler.
Interesting “debate”.
Obama played the rope a dope well - he has the lead so let Hil flail away.
I think I figured out at least part of Clinton’s issue here. Every time she attacks the failed policies of George Bush, in most cases she is reminding people of the almost identical policies of her husband. Now that she is painting them as failed, no one really wants more of the same, and that’s what they see with Hillary.
Both candidates are clueless as to what their ideas are going to cost. Let’s face it, if either Dem is elected, anyone earning over $80,000 a year will be taxed at 100% so their earnings can be distrubuted to the “middle class”. Indentured servitude for high achievers!
Like slick Willie’s “millionaire tax” that somehow became a tax on anyone in the low six figures (guess that’s an Arkansas millionaire. Not to be confused with the Arkansas “hello”, which apparently is extended with one’s pants around one’s ankles).
Ignatius Reilly~
You misread TXRose: what you quoted she said in sarcasm. Let’s try again, in complete context:
I don’t view holding my nose and voting McCain in the General as voting for him just because he’s GOP. I’m looking at it as a vote AGAINST socialism, which is where Obama/Hillary wants to take us…
“She demagogues about children being left without parents. Babies left without parents.”
Yeah, I wish they would have reminded Clinton of her husband’s policy concerning Elio González… we could have combined the immigration and Cuba issues and saved ourselves 15 minutes of teeth-gnashing.
Mr. Scribbler, I do not criticize you or TXRose for concluding that the greatest good (or least evil) is to vote for McCain. But if you are defending TXRose’s cheap attribution of motive (I’m just ticked off because my candidate didn’t win) then you are as misguided as she is.
But I don’t think you really are defending her arrogant attribution of infantile motives to other conservative voters. Your post seemed to want to take a hard whack at me in defense of TXRose, with whom you are in solidarity on your decision to vote for McCain. But you really didn’t go straight at my criticism of TXRose’s post, which was not her voting decision. She might not respect my decision, but I respect her. I just don’t respect her cheap shot at those who disagree.
Thank you Miss Ladybug but there was another not in that sentence. I will vote for
McCain. I will hold my nose if I have to, but I will not play games with my vote for the
president because 4 or 8 years of Hillary or Obama ( and that husband of hers and that
wife of his) turns my stomach. I have always told my friends that do not vote, that they
cannot gripe. Same thing goes for me. Therefore, I have to vote GOP.
Miss Ladybug, I looked very carefully at TXRose’s post and, again, at your quoting of it. I did not misread it.
She expressed — as her own thought process — the idea of voting against McCain because of disappointment at the defeat of one’s own favored candidate. And she explained that she rejected that sort of thinking.
But the clear rhetorical purpose was to ascribe exactly that defective motive that she has rejected for herself as the motive for people who have, in fact, decided to vote against McCain.
TXRose, I think that what you said was unfortunate, and I took a hard shot it. I felt quite offended by it, as I explained.
But, ultimately, I do recognize that you are a sincere conservative, and I hate to find myself so much at odds with people whom I should be marching beside.
Maybe I was a little more hostile than I should have been in taking exception to your remark. Good luck.
Apparently I have inadvertently touched a sore spot here. Trust me, I respect your decision if it is made honestly and with a good deal of thought. I did not mean to make
you feel badly about your decision. I am only telling you what I have heard from an
awful lot of Republicans. “If the person that I wanted to get in doesn’t make it, and if
McCain does, I will not vote for McCain because he is not as conservative as I want him to
be or whatever.” As I have said before, I used to know Juan Hernandez and I don’t trust
him as far as I can throw him and at 5′, 100#s, that wouldn’t be far. But I do think that we
will fare much better with McCain in the White House than the alternative, I am sorry if
you feel less than good at this point. Maybe a warm bath and glass of warm milk and it
will all look better tomorrow.
Ignatius Reilly~
Then I misinterpreted the point you were trying to make. Sorry about that…
But, I have heard (well, “seen” on various threads around the internet) people make that very argument: their candidate of choice didn’t make it, and they’ll be damned if they vote for McCain, even if it means we get HRC or BO as president.
Thank you Ignatius and I love your name, by the way. I truly did not mean to offend
you. I sometimes forget that being the oldest child in the family has left me with an
unfortunate tendency to lecture. We are all conservatives and should be working in
concert.
And, on that note, I am going to take my own advice. A warm bath (never could
stand warm milk) and I will call it a night.
Exactly my point, Miss Ladybug, and a goodnight to you. See you on another
thread. I’ll let you know what I find at the polls tomorrow.
Because Brownsville is on the Southern tip of Reconquistaville, of South Texas, right on the border - and they felt it
verymuyimportantimortante to OUTREACH.ooops!!!
That would be “importante”. “muy importante”….pardone moi. er, escuse’ moi - oops, por favor, senor y senoras
Ombre Rose~
You may not have read all the comments, so I’ll fill you in if that is the case. The campus isn’t partly in Mexico; the way DHS has decided to build the fence (in a ways from the actual border) would place part of the campus south of the border fence…
How can Hillary comment that SHE has been through ROUGH BATTLES in her life? All of them center around Bill and his feloneous and adulterous behavior, as well as some feloneous behavior of her own - all problems they brought on themselves, and those that he brought on her FOR WHICH SHE DECIDED TO STICK WITH HIM FOR THE PURPOSES OF HER OWN PERSONAL GAIN.
And she kept a straight face and moved on QUICKLY, before her audience REMEMBERED what all her personal battles were REALLY all about!
Thanks - yeah, I do stick my foot in it from time to time. And I did assume without reading all the comments - based on some talk in our area - lots of kids around here go there - but I haven’t been to that campus myself in about 20 years, and it has grown an awful lot since then.
I knew a few years ago they had a lot of experimental farming going on in Mexico and in South America, too, and I just jumped to conclusions.
Sorry.
But the Southern tip of Texas is heavily smothered in Reconquistas, and thus is the BLUE section of the State on the Elections map, save for Austin, pretty much, these days - and a thin, broken line along our border, and a splash around the Houston area.
BTW, my mom watched these debates tonight, and concludes she will vote for [Obama] - she has voted Conservative, all her life, as far as I know, as far as I had ever been told by her, before.
She really hates McCain, though.
Frankly, I would expect her to be more likely to do that, than for her to try to remember the name of a good Conservative and bother to write it in.
This little idea keeps bubbling up, that Obama will be another Carter, totally clueless once he gets the job and Dems and Repubs alike will limit his stupidity and throw him out after one term.
After all, we had to endure Carter to get Reagan. Could it happen again?
McCain has already said RECENTLY, when backed into a corner, that if it is revived, and they put it on his desk, HE WILL SIGN IT - AS IS.
He didn’t get NUTHIN’! He just got a NEW DICTIONARY.
Haven’t you heard him SAY that HIS BILL DID NOT GIVE “AMNESTY”??? ~~~After all, there is a “FINE” involved!~~~
Easy - all three are BOTH.
Remember, the laws that the Senators Hillary and Obama are voting for that we despise them for are all written by McCain.
You are confusing me no end, little fox.
There are at least 3 may be 4 different “Rose” persons on Michelle’s forums.
SO LOL!
Well, I can easily see that I am not the one you are talking to.
I ain’t gonna vote for McCain, either.
I still don’t see any evidence that he is “Right” of the Dim candidates, one iota!
I believe he is fully capable of doing twice as much damage as all of them put together.
After all, they don’t get that much done, now, unless he pulls out his legislation and his Gang of 14 to give them the necessary nudges.
Better idea than it is to think that once McCain gets to his most independent position in his life, that he would suddenly do a lifetime career reversal and start listening to Conservatives and do what is RIGHT instead of what is STALINIST on the old agenda adopted by the DIM PLATFORM committee.
He chose his direction in his last Senate Election in Arizona when he spit in the eyes of the Arizona GOP, did as he wished and was handily voted in by DIM CROSSOVERS who preferred him to the Dim candidate running against him.
If I’m not mistaken, that Dim candidate was a Coors and that would make him undoubtedly a relative of Cindy’s. ???
AFAIK, Obama ripped off the phrase “just words”, everything else was a famous quote, e.g. I have a dream, We hold these truths to be self-evident, We have nothing to fear but fear itself.
I’m in southWest Texas - those of you that intend to vote for McCain - say hello to a Socialist nation.
Compare McCain Feingold Thompson to, say, The Stamp Act.
I have trouble differentiating McCain from Santa Anna after some of the funerals for several diffferent folks from an assortment of local families here - of the ones NOT INVOLVED in illegal activities with local coyotes.
and in the whole thread, references to problems in some areas due to teh the fence being plotted well away from the literal physical border — well, there are many kinds of accomodations to fit some solitary or rare private problems - but most would be solved if America h ad the balls to call the border what it is, instead of conceding a mile or more deep to Mexico - all things considered. As far as I am concerned, given the entire history, if the fence deviates from the actual border - let the cost be to the MEXICO side, not the American side - considering all those gun battles on OUR SIDE of the border, and tunnels, and etc. - broken fences, stolen cattle, and other, etc, et al…
After all, if they took care of their own side of it as well as they do their own SOUTHERN border, considering the billions of American tax payer dollars that American politicians have gifted them without strings or accountability for….
No vote for McCain.
Anyone see Ann Coulter’s latest column?
On February 22nd, 2008 at 12:22 am,
Speaking of PLAGERISM —
Remember that health care package Hillary tried to shove down our throats in ‘93 - anyone remember Rush giving the proof AT THE TIME THAT IT WAS MASS PUBLISHED AT GOVT EXPENSE, just on SPECULATION, that she lifted it lock stock and barrel from a UNIVERSITY project?
Fine, but keep your trap shut when this country becomes the newest socialist utopia, all because you and a lot of other clueless people think the only alternative to not getting everything you want in a candidate is to get everything you hate instead.
I would tell you to get a clue, but that kind of miracle will only be possible after Saint Obama gets elected.
Schools are closed, here in the D.C. area because of weather, and the Federal gov’t has announced a “liberal leave” policy. Why is it, when the weather is bad, liberals get leave? i want a conservative leave policy too.
After Hill’s xerox dud, it was a pleasure to wake up to the fact that Time Magazine found her xeroxing a line from a Billy-Boy 1992 speech about taking hits that are nothing compared to what other people are going through. Then again, maybe that is just a line Bill let her borrow! Priceless!
right_on:
The author of that excellent oped piece is Victor David Hanson.
Link here:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OGVlMDY4YjlmM2YwNTE2YzdjNmI0YjVhMWNlMTVmMWY=
Michelle:
Thank you so much for reporting on these “Demfantastic” debates. You do the hard work so that our eyes don’t bleed. You definitely need a raise for this (and that last hate mail you received) for sure.
So who actually answered questions and who evaded them? There was so much waffling and non-answers going on I’m surprised one of them didn’t fall over trying to please their target audience: illegals and socialistas de los Estados Unidos.
Miss Ladybug:
Hugs for a fellow sub.
I subbed in Colorado for 2 years. My background is Social Studies but I’ve taught all the different levels. Colorado is similar to Texas in that you eventually trip over an “immigrant.” Don’t you know, though, to these people, we’re a land of immigrants so let the Reconquista begin! Ughh…
Who are the teachers in your school district voting for? Okay, that’s too easy. I wonder what their reaction was when Obama said that he would just throw money at public education and do away with NCLB. Bet that was a hit….
Ironically, her closing statement was lifted almost word for word from something her husband said in 1992. “You know, the hits I’ve taken in life are nothing compared to what goes on every single day in the lives of people across our country.”
Bill’s version: “The hits that I took in this election are nothing compared to the hits the people of this state and this country have been taking for a long time.”
Please remember when at least two members of SCOTUS come up for appointments and they get picked by one of these two socialists, and SCOTUS
upholds NAMBLA as a 1st Amendment right and keeps Roe v Wade, that those
of you who couldn’t bring yourselves to vote for McCain picked these people to
sit on the Supreme Court. When large companies do more and more business
overseas because HRC hates big business and decides to penalize them and cost
people in this country more and more jobs, you picked her. When we wind up
in a mess overseas because BHO knows absolutely nothing about foreign affairs
you picked him. When a mess is made of health care by a socialist that according to the 10th Amendment has no business trying to create national
healthcare, you picked him/her.
If you are thinking of making your point by writing something/someone in,
just remember, no one but the election workers that will have to hand tally
that write in vote are the only ones that will see it. No one at a higher level
will write the candidate a note with all of the write in information, saying, just
look at how much the electorate dislikes you!!
Please keep all of this in mind as you take what you think of as the high road
and decide not to vote for McCain. Please keep in mind, that while you are
crowing about what a mess one of these socialists and the dems in DC are
making of this country that we all still live here in this mess you helped them
to create. Not pointing fingers, just pointing out possiblities.
rantoff/
Unfortunately, entitlements and freebies brings votes. There are no statesmen out there, just easily corrupted politicians. The Constitution is now an “Animal Farm” Constitution, full of ifs, buts, excepts and maybes. A lot of people in this country want these socialist programs, not realizing the “cost” they will incur. Each new program, entitlement, or welfare plan, takes away liberty. One day it will be gone, and people will file in line to get what the government thinks they need…less what the government keeps for itself. This is out of ignorance and a “don’t care” attitude. People cheer the socialists who promise more government control in their lives. Amazing.
I caught Obama stealing lines from Jimmy Carter last night. He ended his debate last night by saying” I want a government that is worthy of its people”. That is stealing from Jimmy Carter’s line about “I want a government as good as its people”. When you are stealing from Hamas apologist Carter, that is pretty bad.
I just went to vote early ( you can do that in TX from 2/19/08 thru 2/29/08 and
then on primary day, March 4th, and there were just a handful of people and most
of them were Republicans. I had heard that Dems were outnumbering Reos 4 to i
at early voting polling places. Apparently, not at the Y in my end of Tarrant County.
Is there anyone out there that views Hillary as taking the bottom of the ticket after a love fest to get there, thereby, upon victory, requiring Barak Hussein Obama to watch his back for the next 4 to 8 years? I’ve seen that list of folks who have assumed room temperature who were associated with the Clintons over the years. Not pretty.
I second every last thing you said except to add how doing so sounds entirely like the Left when talking about Bush only 4 and 8 years ago. All that’s left are the threats to leave and live in another counry like certain members of Hollywood did…and I believe I have even seen those.