Grover Norquist, the California Republican Party, and an open-borders debacle continued

By Michelle Malkin  •  February 22, 2008 05:16 PM

Last June, I noted the mortifying open-borders debacle in the California Republican Party. Michael Kamburowski, an Australian immigrant who served as the California Republican Party’s chief operating officer, resigned last summer after the SFChron reported that he had been “ordered deported in 2001, jailed in connection with the order, and [had a] $5 million wrongful arrest lawsuit pending against U.S. Department of Homeland Security officials.” Clueless GOP officials put Kamburowski in charge of the multimillion-dollar budget of the nation’s largest state Republican Party.

At the time of the resignation I wondered: Who was behind Kamburowski’s appointment? Did he have White House connections?

Well, now we know. And it won’t be any surprise to folks who’ve followed the path of open-borders, national security-undermining Grover Norquist. Via the SFChron again:

A former California Republican Party official who resigned last year in a controversy over his immigration status had no valid visa or work permit during his high-profile career as a Washington lobbyist for conservative icon Grover Norquist, newly filed court records show.

Michael Kamburowski, an Australian citizen who served briefly as chief operating officer of the state GOP, worked from 1995 to 2000 as a vice president of Americans for Tax Reform in Washington, D.C., an organization headed by Norquist – an architect of modern conservatism who has advised President Bush and top GOP political leaders.

For Norquist, Kamburowski lobbied Congress on dozens of issues, including immigration reform, according to his resume. He also directed the Norquist organization’s Ronald Reagan Legacy Project, an effort to rename public buildings to honor the former president. But when he went to work for Norquist, Kamburowski had no legal right to live or work in the U.S., according to documents filed recently in federal court in Brooklyn, N.Y., in connection with a wrongful-arrest lawsuit he filed against U.S. immigration officials.

Adam Radman, a communications director at Americans for Tax Reform, responded to requests for comment Wednesday with an e-mail referring all questions to Kamburowski. Kamburowski’s lawyer, Michael DiRaimondo, didn’t return a reporter’s phone call.

Kamburowski quit his post with the state GOP in June after The Chronicle disclosed that he had sued the federal officials who jailed him in 2004 in an attempt to deport him.

At the time, he said he had a valid work permit when he was hired by state party Chairman Ron Nehring, who has done consulting work with Norquist. Kamburowski refused to discuss his immigration status when he first came to the United States in 1995 and was hired by the Norquist organization. But documents filed late last year in the lawsuit – including portions of Kamburowski’s pre-trial testimony – show that he remained in the United States illegally to work for Norquist after he came to this country on a tourist visa.

“I was out of status” when he was hired by Norquist, he testified.

Is it any wonder conservatives are fed up with party leadership? These people are incompetent, sloppy, arrogant–and they couldn’t care less about following immigration laws.

And this is no coincidence: Republican Party registration is down in California. The party is in turmoil and in debt as it heads into its annual spring convention. Via the SacBee, the California GOP will decide whether to hold to a conservative agenda or turn into a California Democrat Party-lite:

The California Republican Party once again faces an identity crisis heading into its annual spring convention, and this time a major donor is calling on the party to become more inclusive.

Businessman Lawrence K. Dodge delayed writing a check to help the party pay off $3 million in debt and wrote a scathing analysis of the party in a private letter, raising concerns similar to those cited by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger when he said Republicans were “dying at the box office” last year.

The internal strife comes as state records show the party continues to suffer a decline in registration and carry a debt incurred to help Schwarzenegger win re-election in 2006.

Taking place in San Francisco, where GOP registration is a mere 10 percent, this weekend’s Republican convention lacks the relative star power of recent state party meetings. The last three featured presidential candidates John McCain, Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney. Schwarzenegger also will be absent due to scheduling issues, according to spokesman Aaron McLear.

McCain, the almost certain GOP nominee, hopes to capture the same Republican, independent and moderate Democratic support in California that Schwarzenegger received in his two gubernatorial victories. But the state party, Dodge noted in his letter, has alienated independents and moderate voters in recent years.

In the letter to party Chairman Ron Nehring, Dodge wrote: “Two-thirds of the voters of this state refuse to be members of our party as it is. We do not need to alienate them further, either by the positions we take or by eating our own in public.”

Delegates will decide this weekend on a new platform for the state party. Moderates and conservatives have been lobbying Republicans in recent weeks to support their respective versions.

The moderate platform follows through on Schwarzenegger’s call last year for a version that concentrates on fiscal responsibility and low taxes with centrist positions on social and environmental issues.”I think people are ready for a cohesive, unifying platform, and that’s what ours is,” said Virginia Chang Kiraly, 44, a Menlo Park Republican who is spearheading that effort. “It’s not offensive, it’s not strident, it’s not divisive, and I think that’s why we’ve had such broad support.”

The conservative proposal likewise is heavy on fiscal responsibility. But it also has strong language opposing the Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse gas emissions, condemns Roe v. Wade, defines marriage as between a man and a woman, and declares that government documents should be printed only in English. Mike Spence, head of the conservative California Republican Assembly, said of the moderate proposal that “Hillary Clinton could say every word in it and agree with 80 percent of it.” He also called Dodge’s letter, particularly his call for a toned-down platform, a “blackmail threat.”

…”We’ve been having discussions not only about retiring our 2006 debt obligation, but also making sure we have all the pieces in place to compete in California this fall,” Nehring said. “We have something now that we didn’t before, which is a presidential candidate who says he intends to compete here in California.”

Records show Republican registration in the state has dropped from 35.6 percent to 33.3 percent since 2004 as more voters seek independent status unaffiliated with any party. Democrats suffered only a 0.2 percent decline over the same period.

Move to the center? Become more like Democrats? Join the global warming fear-mongering crowd? Adopt “centrist” social positions? Marginalize conservatism as “divisive” and “strident?”

Yeah, that’ll boost GOP donations and registrations! Where’s my upside-down elephant? Oh, yeah. There it is:

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  1. #252134
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 5:26 pm, Jim M. said:

    So, moderates are trying to make the GOP more moderate to attract independents, while GOP members are leaving the GOP to become independents due to the GOP’s move to more moderate policies? My head is starting to hurt…

  2. #252139
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 5:34 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    So the “Third Way” turned out to be a neutered Republican Party?

  3. #252140
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 5:35 pm, walterc said:

    Can’t we form a viable conservative party that isn’t isolationist?

    Constitution party comes close, until you get to the “bring all the troops home from everywhere, abandon our mutual defense treaties and slam the door shut” language.

  4. #252141
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 5:35 pm, geminicontender said:

    I live in California. I am conservative. I am a Republican. And I am willing to move out of state at anytime because of the Republican party in this State. The whole group are incompetent or ‘whipped’ whichever. Spineless do-nothings.

  5. #252142
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 5:37 pm, right_on said:

    The Republican Party Convention in S.F.? What bozo thought that would be a good idea?

    S.F…anti-everything conservative…from morals to military…ah, I forgot…the GOP leadership wants to move toward the center.

    I think instead of moving to the center, deciding to have the convention in San Francisco is more of a bending over movement!

  6. #252143
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 5:37 pm, graysonret said:

    When you give up your principles, you’re doomed. That will lose you more votes than anything else. It will also split the party, ensuring victories by another party. Republicans have a bad habit of doing that, over the past decades. So we had an illegal working in the Party? Lord knows, one day, I’ll wake up and find my Congressman never entered the country legally. He slipped across the border.

  7. #252144
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 5:40 pm, Rinoalert said:

    Move to the center? Become more like Democrats? Join the global warming fear-mongering crowd? Adopt “centrist” social positions? Marginalize conservatism as “divisive” and “strident?”

    This is why McCain must be defeated.

  8. #252147
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 5:47 pm, letget said:

    IS there one honest person left in the United States of America.? Stupid question===NO.
    L.

  9. #252148
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 5:49 pm, letget said:

    Sorry on the #8, it should be politician, not person.
    L

  10. #252150
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 5:53 pm, Speakup said:

    Taking the GOP toward the center of what?
    Immorality? Socialism? the complete loss of sovereignty?
    Will the GOP be finally happy when they spend California to 27 billion in dept versus the 17 billion now?

    The loss of popularity of California Republicans has nothing to do with principles and everything to do with a blue California, by design.

    When was the last time California had a Conservative Governor? Pete Wilson, when he left office California enjoyed a record surplus, one year later Gray Davis gave the state a recored deficit and its only gotten bigger, much bigger.

    From the time of Reagan, California had a booming defense industry and the Republican base to go with it, Davis killed the defense industry and replaced it with dot com liberals.
    Davis helped in large measure to the current political disparity.
    Producing a liberal imbalance has been job one in California, and we have the taxes, the crime and the deficit to prove it.

    Wilson was fighting the illegal flood but the gimme syndrome was already a huge magnet. Republicans born here were already in full flight when Davis defeated 187, displacment jumped into high gear.

    Conservatives aren’t wrong, they’ve literally been run off and replaced with liberal dependent blood suckers.

    Question is will liberalism be a one way death spiral or can a new Republican base be engineered in time?

  11. #252154
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 6:02 pm, doppelganglander said:

    I am deeply suspicious of Grover Norquist’s ties to CAIR, Abdul Rahman Al-Amoudi and others. He claims that the Republicans should court the Muslim vote because Jews will never vote for Republicans in large numbers anyway. There are roughly 6.4 million Jews in the U.S., about 2.1% of the total population. Estimates of the Muslim population in the U.S. range from 1.1 million, or 0.5% of the adult population, to 6.7 million, or 2.2% of the total population. The most reliable figure, in my opinion, is the Pew Research Center’s estimate of 2.4 million in 2007. Even if only a third of American Jews vote Republican, that’s almost equal to ALL Muslims. I don’t think I’ve ever heard an elected official at the national level advocate reducing our support for Israel, which is pretty much the one thing all Muslims would like to see. I strongly suspect that Norquist has other motives.

  12. #252164
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 6:39 pm, Miss Ladybug said:

    I’m beginning to think more and more that the only choice for true conservatives is a new, third party. As noted above, the Constitution Party sounds good until you get to the (completely unrealistic in today’s global environment) isolationism. I know that New York state has a Conservative Party. how do they stack up, and could they help build that party’s base in other states?

  13. #252167
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 6:47 pm, zorro said:

    Personally, I am ready for a third party, a conservative party. We are not there yet. But when it organizes, count me in.

    In the mean time, I think 4 years in the diaspora will do the GOP good.

  14. #252168
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 6:47 pm, DarkKnight said:

    Move to the center? Become more like Democrats? Join the global warming fear-mongering crowd? Adopt “centrist” social positions? Marginalize conservatism as “divisive” and “strident?”

    Interesting you (of all people) should write that seeing that Senator McCain is who GOP across the country chose as their nominee for POTUS.

    I am curious if you will end up supporting him as November draws nearer and also, if your “McCain ‘08 Death Watch” post will stay up on the site.

    I’d love to compare and contrast your comments.

  15. #252183
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 7:24 pm, slp said:

    Michael Kamburowski came to the U.S. on a tourist visa.

    Then he continued to live in U.S. after his tourist visa expired.

    Under U.S. law, he was never authorized to work.

    But he served briefly as chief operating officer of the California GOP.

    And he worked from 1995 to 2000 as a vice president of Americans for Tax Reform as a lobbyist in Washington, D.C.

    He sues Homeland Security for wrongful arrest.

    He is just another illegal alien.

    Is it gall or cajones?

    Whichever…

    Move over Elvira Arellano, Michael Kamburowski clearly deserves the award as illegal alien of the millennium.

  16. #252186
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 7:30 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Miss Ladybug, zorro, as disgusted as I am with the current state of the party, the creation of a 3rd party only plays into the hands of the Dems who thrive on keeping people divided, disenfranchised, powerless & hence dependent.

    Our nation was built on a 2 party system & if we can’t take back a party, how can we hope to take back a nation?

    “A house divided against itself can not stand.” Better that we take back this party & go from there.

    Please consider.

  17. #252195
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 8:00 pm, Ditkaca said:

    Interesting you (of all people) should write that seeing that Senator McCain is who GOP across the country chose as their nominee for POTUS

    the GOP across the country did not choose McCain as the nominee. The MSM had a hand in it and frankly by the time the primaries came to California we had very little choice. Rudy was my man and I did not get to choose him.

  18. #252202
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 8:09 pm, Miss Ladybug said:

    Brooklyn Red~

    What are we to do when Republican party leadership keeps trying to move the party further to the left? What, I’m supposed to keep voting GOP just because, even if they are less and less reflective of my values? Until I see party leadership moving back to the right, I’m leaving my options open for supporting a new, true, conservative party.

  19. #252204
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 8:13 pm, Miss Ladybug said:

    DarkKnight~

    How many of those primaries did McCain win with less than one-third of the vote? The moderates/left in the party had one candidate to choose from (especially since Guiliani placed his bet on Florida). Conservative had more choices, and the conservative vote got split, with no candidate getting enough to compete with the moderates. Oh, and let’s not forget all the states that allow for open primaries, too. That helped McCain, but those folks aren’t really Republicans, now, are they?

  20. #252208
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 8:23 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Miss Ladybug, let us not cut of our noses… they will ask for your money, & they will ask for your vote.

    Grab them by the ears & turn them to the right. Taking your ball & going home is righteous but won’t win the day.

  21. #252215
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 8:35 pm, Miss Ladybug said:

    First time I have ever donated $$ to a party or a campaign was $10 to Fred Thompson. Don’t have much leverage when you don’t have deep pockets, ya know. I’ll hold my nose and vote for McCain, but only because either of the Dems will be monumentally worse for the nation; I don’t have feelings of common cause with McCain on too many important issues. And I haven’t even been able to vote in my primary yet. I haven’t had a say in who our party’s nominee is, and the game is pretty much over. I call BS on that one.

  22. #252242
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 9:17 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    They won’t be getting my money this year. In fact, I haven’t donated in years. They haven’t given me a reason to.

  23. #252251
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 9:42 pm, NascarFan70 said:

    it will be a cold day in hell when I will move to the center just to win a blue state.

  24. #252253
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 9:49 pm, wrcnossen said:

    The republican leadership acts as if they were a football team. The only difference between them and the democrats is the score.

    Political parties are supposed to be formed from Ideas, Standards, and Philosophies. You build your party by convincing people of the rightness of your ideas, not flushing them down the toilet.

  25. #252262
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 10:19 pm, blues said:

    It ain’t about incompetence,or platform inconsistancy,It is about INCUMBENCY.As long as these politicians are cofident of re-election,the only change you see will be things getting worse.There is no need for a third party,what is needed is for the voters to take back control of both parties.Vote all of the incumbents out,and the others will begin to do what is right.

  26. #252273
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 10:37 pm, greenfairie said:

    The GOP in CA, as it is nationwide, is sad and pathetic.

    Part of the problem they have here politically is the population dominance of L.A. and the Bay Area. This is a crowd that loves its bennies and worships the blood god of abortion. (The political ads here trumpet that the candidate’s pro-choice.) A conservative must put together a strong coalition of Republican/conservative leaning counties to win.

  27. #252285
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 10:56 pm, Ordinary Coloradan said:

    Question is how do we throw out a-list Country Clubbers like Norquist?

    How do we take our party back?

  28. #252286
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 11:00 pm, alamedaman said:

    How dare Grover Norquist stand up for true conservative values!

    what happened to respecting the different kinds of republicans within the GOP? Neocons used to get along with paleoconservatives and right libertarians amicably.

  29. #252289
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 11:07 pm, 4gotnblud said:

    The decline and fall of the United States of America began with the election of George H. W. Bush. This was the kindling of globalism which was designed to destroy this nation. When “stalwarts” of the supposedly conservative Republican party such as Hatch, Lott, McConnell, Graham, McCain pass legislation and make statements that would be expected from liberal Democrats you can believe the “fix” is in. This group has many cohorts in the party that join the liberals drive to financially and culturally destroy us.

    When even those who demanded defeat of McCain’s “amnesty” promote him to save our nation we are doomed. Bush-lite will just promote the liberal global shift we currently experience.

    And the corker is American voters are not just ignorant; they are stupid. The stupid and ignorant will thrive in Orwell’s “1984″ while I will never cease to air truth to those who listen but from the soon imperiled “safety” of the “hills”.

  30. #252294
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 11:15 pm, Barry F. said:

    Michelle, it’s too bad we can’t figure out how to show an inside-out elephant to show a more accurate depiction of the GOP as of late. :|

  31. #252296
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 11:18 pm, Barry F. said:

    On February 22nd, 2008 at 5:34 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    So the “Third Way” turned out to be a neutered Republican Party?

    Maybe they should just break with the GOP altogether, leaving it to conservatives, and start their own new party, AG. Perhaps they could call it the Eunuch Party. ;-)

  32. #252300
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 11:28 pm, bit_boy said:

    Sounds very much like the McVain Party. I’m not surprised nor a contributor. I forget now, do disenfranchised Republican vote for Ralph Nader or do unhappy Conservative Democrats vote for Ralph Nader or do independents who want more than a me too voice vote for Ralph Nader or might the silent majority jump up and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat and vote for Ralph Nader.

  33. #252307
    On February 22nd, 2008 at 11:57 pm, OneofThem said:

    I love how when a big Republican is an illegal immigrant, he “[has] no legal right to live or work in the U.S.” according to the media, but when it’s anyone else, they’re simply “undocumented workers,” etc.

  34. #252360
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 3:05 am, DarkKnight said:

    On February 22nd, 2008 at 8:13 pm, Miss Ladybug said:
    DarkKnight~

    How many of those primaries did McCain win with less than one-third of the vote? The moderates/left in the party had one candidate to choose from (especially since Guiliani placed his bet on Florida). Conservative had more choices, and the conservative vote got split, with no candidate getting enough to compete with the moderates. Oh, and let’s not forget all the states that allow for open primaries, too. That helped McCain, but those folks aren’t really Republicans, now, are they?

    Oh no Miss Ladybug. The argument that the MSM somehow caused millions of people to rescue Sen. McCain, when Mrs. Malkin proclaimed that his campaign had little chance of going nowhere?

    I don’t buy it.

    You claim that the conservative vote was split, right???

    Again, I don’t buy it.

    Tancredo never even got out of single digits. Did Duncan Hunter? Nope. They both dropped out. That left Fred Thompson. He was the only true conservative left according to many. How many delegates did he win?

    Exactly.

    How about the argument that it was the open primaries? Let’s look at Oklahoma, a closed primary, McCain still received 37% of the vote. Decisive? No. But still significantly more than Romney’s 25% (who was preferred to Huckabee in many circles).

    It is my opinion that many GOP folks went with a candidate who they think had the best chance of winning in November.

  35. #252378
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 4:39 am, Ombre Rose said:

    On February 22nd, 2008 at 5:35 pm, walterc said:
    Can’t we form a viable conservative party that isn’t isolationist?

    Constitution party comes close, until you get to the “bring all the troops home from everywhere, abandon our mutual defense treaties and slam the door shut” language.

    HERE HERE!!!

    Or, HEAR HEAR!

    or BOTH!

  36. #252379
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 4:41 am, Ombre Rose said:

    On February 22nd, 2008 at 11:28 pm, bit_boy said:

    NO! Nobody with a brain votes for Ralph Nader.

  37. #252380
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 4:44 am, Ombre Rose said:

    On February 22nd, 2008 at 7:30 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Makes sense – but I won’t vote for McCain – no matter what!

    I am going to vote for SOMEONE.

    It would be nice if all the unhappy voters had a common candidate who isn’t a blithering idiot.

    I like Oliver North.

  38. #252382
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 4:55 am, Ombre Rose said:

    On February 22nd, 2008 at 8:23 pm, brooklyn red said:

    This just isn’t one of those days when there is a winning option for America, unless God Himself intervenes and wipes some of these guys OFF THE SLATE and finds a way to replace them with a few decent human beings.

    If you vote for ONE of these present 3 or 4 top contenders and they end up winning the office, NEITHER the GOP or AMERICA has won a blessed thing.

    As far as I am concerned, one of these guys, especially McCain, winning the Presidency would be like America winning “Top Scorer” at an AIDS fundraising orgy for who got laid the most during the convention.
    That guy may go home with the trophy, but if he didn’t come with AIDS, he sure went home with it.

    Only way I see a WIN for America right now is if 50+ million voters walk into that booth in November and WRITE IN the very same person’s name – by the unction of the Lord God Almighty.

    That has not ever happened in almost 50 years.

  39. #252383
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 5:04 am, Ombre Rose said:

    2 Chronicles 7:14 If My people, who are called by My Name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    Psalm 118:8 (happens to be the Center verse in the Center chapter Bible)

  40. #252394
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 7:13 am, Prime Director said:

    Makes sense – but I won’t vote for McCain – no matter what!

    That’s the same thing as voting for the democratic candidate, and thus the same thing as handing Iraq over to the jihadis. How does that help anything?

    Just hold your nose and vote for the only candidate who’s qualified to be commander-in-chief, McCain (believe me, I’m not thrilled about casting a vote for McVain, either.)

    Remember Gingrich, the Contract with America and the Republican Revolution in ‘94 which reigned in Clinton’s exploding budget proposals and eventually resulted in a budget surplus?

    A new Republican Revolution in ‘10 can bring McCain in line with the conservative majority on border security.

    If you hate McCain’s liberalism, you’ll hate Obama’s or Hillary’s even more. Vote McCain in ‘08 to keep the war effort going and fix the border in ‘10.

    Viva le Revolution.

  41. #252398
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 8:54 am, TexasTiger said:

    On February 23rd, 2008 at 4:44 am, Ombre Rose said:
    I am going to vote for SOMEONE.

    It would be nice if all the unhappy voters had a common candidate who isn’t a blithering idiot.

    I like Oliver North.

    Do you like this LtCol Oliver North or were you refering to a different Ollie?

    Neither John McCain, nor anyone in his campaign asked me to write this column. But I cannot sit silently while my fellow conservatives do to John McCain what GOP “moderates” did to me. Today, the stakes for our country are far higher, the implications for the future far greater than who sits in one of a hundred U.S. Senate seats. Now, our nation is at war against a vicious foe. We need a president who has proven how to win it.

    Sorry, but look on the bright side. You can add another name to your RINO HALL OF FAME. :(

  42. #252401
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 8:58 am, TexasTiger said:

    On February 23rd, 2008 at 7:13 am, Prime Director said:

    Viva le Revolution.

    Viva La Resistance!

  43. #252404
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 9:05 am, artman1746 said:

    When McCain loses in November the Republican Party will do some soul searching nationally. I expect to see the same hand-wringing as we see in California. This is what the “big tent” strategy gets you, i.e. a lukewarm party that will be split at every turn unable to make a coherent decision as the “but…but…but” moderates look for a majority to run to and question every item on the platform as “devisive”!

    If, or when, the big national crisis hits, and the Republicans have not been advocating clear ideas that separate them from Democrats, the ideas will simply slip through the cracks and the ignorant “dolts” in the middle that Democracts depend upon will just side with the big government ideas they perceive will “help” them through the crisis. If Obama is the president for four years the Republicans better have a “I told you so!” history to fall back upon. If not, we will just slip further into the sewer.

  44. #252410
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 9:33 am, cf said:

    There are other large state Republican parties that are in a shambles — Illinois is one example. I can understand the mainstream media elevating a clown with Muslim loyalties like Norquist to high status, but conservatives and Republicans are doomed to failure and irrelevancy if they do the same with Norquist, and other retreads like Kemp, and other hangers-on.

  45. #252412
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 9:49 am, Dimsdale said:

    The convention is in San Franciscommie?

    What next?

    I suggest Berkeley. They will probably be able to fit all of their remaining membership in the recruitment office that is currently under siege.

    Their move towards the center is a move towards extinction.

    Time for a Reagan party?

  46. #252417
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 9:57 am, graysonret said:

    The Republicans had a chance to give us “limited government” over the past years, but decided to give in to liberal ideas, and spend, spend, spend. Now, they want to shift from conservative values and move “to the center”. Maybe it’s time for a new party, made up of those who want to continue to cherish limited government and the American Dream. I know I would seriously look into a new party like that. Dissolve the old “Whig party” I see now, and form a new Republican party.

  47. #252427
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 10:50 am, Gregor said:

    Move to the center? Become more like Democrats? Join the global warming fear-mongering crowd? Adopt “centrist” social positions? Marginalize conservatism as “divisive” and “strident?”

    I wonder how many times I’ve been called a moron, stupid, ignorant, or even a traitor on this blog and on HotAir for spending the last year predicting this move. Still, most aren’t paying attention.

    There are still those who believe that “holding your noses” and rewarding these clowns on election day is going to somehow allow the GOP to move back to the right.

    I’ve been saying this for a year now. If you elect McCain … there won’t be any GOP candidate who dares to run as a conservative in future elections. You’ve taught them that they need to run to the left if they’re going to win.

    Good job Republican voters!

  48. #252452
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 12:24 pm, AuntiEm said:
  49. #252488
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 1:57 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    Destroy the enemy from within x RINOs = Socialists

    To be certain to take what you attack, attack where the enemy cannot defend.
    To be certain of safety when defending, defend where the enemy cannot attack.
    Therefore, against those skilled in attack, the enemy does not know where to defend; against those skilled in defense, the enemy does not know where to attack.

    Subtle! Subtle!
    They become formless.

    Mysterious! Mysterious!
    They become soundless.

    Therefore, they are the masters of the enemy’s fate.

    Therefore, if we can make the enemy show his position while we are formless, we will be at full force while the enemy is divided.

    Probe him, to know where he is strong and where he is weak.

    The ultimate skill is to take up a position where you are formless. If you are formless, the most penetrating spies will not be able to discern you, or the wisest counsels will not be able to do calculations against you.

    Sun Tzu, The Art Of War

  50. #252489
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 1:59 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    I forgot to add

    Conservitives = Enemy

  51. #252511
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 2:49 pm, twoninerkilo said:

    Time to form a new party, the Republican party is nothing but a bunch of whipped dogs now. Six months ago they were screaming for McCrazys blood; now they want everyone to fall into lock step with the lunatic. God! I hate cowardly SOBs like that.

  52. #252537
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 4:03 pm, graysonret said:

    You’re not going to believe this, but I think Old Ted got his monthly supply of Scotch.
    http://www.breitbart.tv/html/51374.html

    Stumping for Obama, but just making a joke of himself.

  53. #252541
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 4:15 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    graysonret

    You owe me for a visit to a specialist to get my ear drums fixed. :lol:

  54. #252543
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 4:24 pm, graysonret said:

    Yeah, blindmule, I’m still shaking my head….ears ringing. Got some nausea too.

  55. #252545
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 4:34 pm, fulldroolcup said:

    I live in a state so blue that my vote in the presidential election simply doesn’t matter.

    So I will freely cast a write-in vote for Romney or Thompson. They won’t win, of course, but the write-ins will have to be recorded , and they will at least send a message to the Braying Jackass that many of us think he’s no conservative, and barely Republican.

    Those of you who live in heavily democratic states ought to be thinking along those lines. Don’t leave your ballot blank; put a name down to record your PREFERENCE, not just your PROTEST.

    Those in Red States have a far different problem, in that a write-in or a no-vote might cost the GOP that state.

    In that event I guess you have to go with McCain, as the Dem alternatives are both so horrible.

  56. #252547
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 4:39 pm, Papa Louie said:

    twoninerkilo, let me see if I can follow your logic… You don’t have the support or the numbers to take back the Republican Party, but you do think you have enough support to reinvent the wheel, form a new party and take on both the Republicans and the Democrats at the same time. Yeah, that will work.

  57. #252548
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 4:45 pm, graysonret said:

    We still have the Republican convention yet. At that time, we will see what the platform will be and presented to the delegates. Until then, I want to hold my opinion of the party. Once I see what exactly they support and don’t support, I can make up my mind.

  58. #252559
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 5:10 pm, Papa Louie said:

    Norquist champions an extreme libertarian view about illegal immigration…essentially advocating open borders without regard for the associated security, financial or social implications. He makes no secret of his contempt for conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly who rightly disagree. He told the New Yorker, “I think Phyllis’s theory is: Foreigners suck.”

    So, everyone who locks their doors at night must believe that the rest of the world sucks. I’m sure Mr. open borders Norquist never lived in a gated community, never used any kind of security, and never locked his doors; because, if he did, he would be a hater as well as a hypocrite. Like illegal immigrants who break into our country, those who would break into your house only want a better life. How can you deny them that, Mr. Norquist?

    Just because people advocate for lawful and orderly immigration does not make them hateful bigots.

  59. #252647
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 11:07 pm, Kalifornia Kafir said:

    On February 22nd, 2008 at 5:35 pm, geminicontender said:
    I live in California. I am conservative. I am a Republican. And I am willing to move out of state at anytime because of the Republican party in this State. The whole group are incompetent or ‘whipped’ whichever. Spineless do-nothings.

    I live in CA (San Francisco Bay Area). I am a Republican (one of 13 in Alameda County). I refuse to leave. I refuse to quit, to concede, to put my tail between my legs and lick the hand of the pseudo-Liberal CA Republican dimwits who imagine that they are my Master. All these Party hacks care about is power: how to get power, how to maintain power, how to be a power player. They do not care about ideas, ideology or truth. They are perfectly happy to prostitute themselves trying to find a way to be so popular that they can gain power…. sort of like the high-school cheerleader wannabee. I refuse to leave. And, I won’t back down. I intend to stay in CA and be a thorn in their sides, that little voice of conscience that keeps whispering in their ears. Uhh… “speaking truth to power?” What’s wrong with that picture?

    You can stand me up at the gates of hell, but I won’t back down.

  60. #252656
    On February 23rd, 2008 at 11:33 pm, normsrevenge said:

    CA: State GOP official may have violated visa law – SFGate.com/SF Chronicle

    A Canadian hired by the California Republican Party to do political work on a coveted H-1B visa appears to be in violation of immigration law because he is also earning money from another employer, federal officials said this week.

    Christopher Matthews, a Canadian citizen, was hired in 2007 as full-time deputy political director, with responsibility for handling campaign operations and information technology for the country’s largest state Republican Party operation, U.S. Department of Labor records show. He currently works for the state GOP as a political coordinator,

    –snip–

    Matthews was hired in California Republican Party circles by Michael Kamburowski, an Australian citizen who in 2007 was named the state GOP’s chief operations officer.

    Kamburowski resigned the $130,000-a-year post after The Chronicle reported he had sued federal officials who jailed him in 2004 for alleged visa violations and attempted to deport him.

  61. #252759
    On February 24th, 2008 at 10:03 am, graysonret said:

    I see that Ralph Nader threw his hat in the “ring” for President. I met him once in D.C.. Didn’t like him. Voting this November, for me, shapes up like paying taxes. Got to do it, but sure hate doing so.

  62. #252772
    On February 24th, 2008 at 11:26 am, bit_boy said:

    Ombre Rose #36, sorry about my Nader comment, after making it I slapped myself around pretty good for being so foolish. The Silent Majority is far to wise to waste their vote on Nader. Far better to vote for the McVain capitulator. Life will be much more interesting not knowing when he’ll sell out the base again.

    From the WashingtonPost.com: Consumer advocate Ralph Nader said on Sunday that he is launching another long shot independent campaign for president of the United States.

    Nader, who will turn 74 this week, announced his presidential bid on NBC’s “Meet the Press” saying that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are addressing the problems facing Americans.

    Nader also ran for president in 2000 when he got about 2.7 percent of the national vote as the Green Party candidate and played a role in deciding the final presidential outcome. He also ran as an independent in 2004 and got only a tiny fraction of the vote.

  63. #252783
    On February 24th, 2008 at 11:53 am, bit_boy said:

    RE: fulldroolcup # 55

    What a great thought. I’ll write in the person of my choice, not hurt McVain the capitulator chances to win, and avoid being manipulated by the Gregoire-Gore vote counting method. Voting is my state is controlled by the Democrats so the results are predictably Democrat but still so corrupt that Republicans cheat Republicans as Huckabee found out when he trailed McVain by 2.7% during the primaries and the Republican Controllers declared McVain the winner with only 87% of the vote being counted. So, fulldroolcup’s solution is a remedy for my problem too.

  64. #252849
    On February 24th, 2008 at 3:28 pm, graysonret said:

    Well, it’s official. Raul is now the new Castro. Same name, same family, same country, same politics, same programs, looking like he needs to retire too. Big deal!! Same Castro, different body.

  65. #252859
    On February 24th, 2008 at 4:05 pm, SpeakEasy said:

    Right on, “Right_on.”

    The city of SanFran repeatedly spits on our country and our military and you reward them with the revenue that a political convention brings?

    Stupid is as stupid does.

    The GOP can save money by NOT sending me contribution mailers– they will only be thrown away.

  66. #252871
    On February 24th, 2008 at 4:42 pm, ScottyDog said:

    On February 23rd, 2008 at 10:50 am, Gregor said:

    I’ve been saying this for a year now. If you elect McCain … there won’t be any GOP candidate who dares to run as a conservative in future elections. You’ve taught them that they need to run to the left if they’re going to win.

    I could not agree more Gregor and I have seen the attacks from the kool aid crowd.

    Now that we have McCain they think voting for the same guy that wrote the Amnesty Bill is patriotic.

    It is if you believe living in the North
    American Union is utopia.

  67. #254535
    On February 26th, 2008 at 4:40 pm, VigilantAl said:

    Hi -
    Here is what is wrong with the California Republican Party. I served as a county precinct coordinator.
    The monthly meetings do not allow ANY discussion of issues, yet expect party members to support every Republican candidate, no exceptions. If an avowed Marxist came to our county meeting and declared he was a Republican, the members would be expected to work to get him elected.
    This turns off the principle-based Republicans that show up at these meetings, so they never show up a second time. Until the Party returns to traditional Republican principles such as smaller government, they will continue to miss these potential workers and contributors, and the Party will decline.

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