The Cottonwood schoolchildren’s memorial fund
These are the four schoolchildren killed in the Cottonwood, MN bus accident this week.
* Hunter Javens, 9, Cottonwood.
* Jesse Javens, 13, Cottonwood (Hunter & Jesse were brothers)
* Emilee Olson, 9, Cottonwood
* Reed Stevens, 12, Marshall.
My Fox Twin Cities reports:
Funeral arrangements are set for three of the four bus crash victims:
Visitation for Emilee Olson will be Saturday from 6:00-9:00 and Sunday from 1:00-2:00, followed by a funeral — all at Christ Lutheran Church in Cottonwood.
Mourners will gather for Hunter Javens, 9, and his brother Jesse Javens, 13, on Sunday from 5:00-8:00, then from 10:00-11:00 on Monday morning. The gatherings will be a Lakeview School, with a funeral service following.
Arrangements for Reed Stevens, 12, are pending.
As I noted yesterday, a memorial fund has been set up:
Memorial Fund for Families of Bus Crash Victims
United Southwest Bank
P.O. Box 288
Cottonwood, MN 56229
Keep the families of these children and the others injured in your prayers.
***
The illegal alien van driver arrested yesterday was charged today with vehicular homicide and other crimes:
The woman appeared in District Court this morning in a wheelchair with one leg in a cast or bandage. Through an interpreter, she told the court that her name is Alianiss Morales, that she has been working in a Cottonwood cabinet shop for about a month and was living with her boyfriend in a Minneota, Minn., trailer but they broke up on the day of the crash.
Maes asked the judge to hold the woman without bail, citing her questionable identity. But the judge said that it would be wrong because none of the charges involve allegations of using false identification. However, the defendant’s attorney, Manuel P. Guerrero, of St. Paul, protested that the bail set — $400,000 without conditions or $200,000 with an assortment of conditions — was akin to denying her bail because of her financial situation.
Her next court appearance is set for April 21.
“She’s grief-stricken about the accident,” Guerrero said of his client. “She’s hurting about what happened to the kids.”
Federal immigration investigator Claude Arnold said this morning that Morales is not the woman’s name, and she is not revealing her real name. He added that she is in this country illegally, probably from Mexico.
Federal immigration spokesman Tim Counts said that the woman has been of “minimal helpfulness” to investigators, but “we will get to the bottom of matters.”
Maes told the judge that ICE officials had located an Alianiss Nunez Morales in Puerto Rico and investigators showed pictures to that woman’s grandparents of the woman in the Lyon County jail. They said the woman in jail was not their granddaughter, Maes added, which became the agency’s reason for being concerned about the jailed woman’s identity.
“Minimal helpfulness.” Doesn’t sound grief-stricken to me.
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The Star-Tribune has posted the charging document and statements from “Morales” and the bus driver.
I repeat the questions I asked yesterday:
What did “Morales’s” employer know about her illegal status and when did the employer know it?
Has she evaded deportation orders? How many?
What didn’t local police ask about her immigration status when she pleaded guilty to driving without a valid license two years ago–and will the parents of the schoolchildren hold officials accountable?
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It is time to stop screwing around. Enough of this, “the country would come to a halt if there were no Illegals working” garbage. It is time we stopped walking on eggshells to appease people that have no business being here. the ACLU has no say in this, as does any other Liberal organization. The ILLEGAL immigrants, by pure definition, do NOT have a single solitary right under our Constitution, therefore there is no reason that we should not be exporting them back to their country of origin beginning immediately.
The cost in tax dollars is astronomical. It is bankrupting states left and right, spreading diseases in this country that were, up until recently, erradicated, and killing innocents on our highways, raping and killing people in their homes and creating higher crime rates thoughout every state in the Union.
No matter what these bleeding heart Liberals say, there is no reason at all to keep any of these ILLEGAL immigrants in this country another day, hour..not another single minute.
If they are in prison, wither send them to a prison in teir own country or as soon as they finish their term, send them back immediately. Go through all businesses, schools and whatnot and round them up. They are criminals. Just like a bank robber, liquor store robber, child abuser, tax evader, or any other lawbreaker…they are the same thing and the law is there for a reason…and the reason is not to be ignored for convinience or any other reason.
Enough is enough. Say what you want. Call me any name you see fit…I could care less. the simple fact of the matter is that the solution is very clear, is a hell of a lot cheaper and easier than anything else any other politician or advocate or anyone else can come up with or think of and it is the only one that the law dictates.
Round them up, send them back and make sure that there is every measure put in place that makes it 100% sure that they can never again come into this country without the proper steps being taken.
PERIOD!
We should sue. At least the families should sue everyone that has failed them. After all, the state of Minnesota would have no problem compiling some class-action lawsuit against – say – a tobacco company that sells a product that people smoke voluntarily KNOWING it’s bad for them to make scads of money – so there should be a class-action lawsuit against a) the company that hired the woman b) the state for letting her out on the streets via some sanctuary law to kill our children. I’m all for it, if it’s possible. It is the only way they will listen.
Oh, this should be good.
Who’s going to do the rounding? How do determine who is legal and who isn’t? Send them into schools? You think a first grader is going to know if he or she is here legally? And where do you put all of these people while you’re trying to determine if they’re actually illegal or not? Let me guess…camps, right?
Oh, and are you only going after the brown people because there are a lot of illegal Irish immigrants here in Boston. How are you going to round them up?
Mookie,
ALL students have a social security number in MY state. Bogus ones are given to illegals.
How’s that for an answer.
Easy to check.
I don’t care about the Irish the same as the others.
I only care about those that are causing us harm…..terrorist/illegals – particularly Hispanic.
Mookie, it is you that shows your racism. I made no claim to either race nor country. I stated ALL Illegals…if you think only certain apply that is on you. If you think only elementary schools apply then that too is on you but you are definately demonstating your usual ignorance and stupidity just to see yourself in print once again.
And you’re definitely demonstrating all of your usual bluster by not answering any of my questions, which is typical of someone who loves to hear himself type.
-Who will round up 12 million people?
-How will they determine which ones to snatch and grab?
-Where will you put them?
-What happens to their property and possessions?
-How do you get them back to their country of origin?
Why don’t you start with those, tough guy?
But that’s not racist, right?
I’m with Mookie on this at #103. It seems most Americans get scared if the guys coming over arn’t European. I would prefer more Asian’s myself, normally good people that keep to themselves or arn’t disruptive. Least then we can stop defending Europe for Stupid emotinal reasons and stop being the Bus boy for the “great” European powers. And thats why some many polititions see you guys as a minority.
For one the call aims at only the Hispanics and the Southern Border. Thats seen as racist by many and a selecitve enforcement. Kinda like in the 1880’s how the Irish were treated the same, or the Germans in the 1900’s.
A much simplier way to deal with the Hispanic Swarm is quite easy.
STEP ONE Legalize all of them that are not gang connected or wanted in civil crime (robbery, Murder, rape, or here just for the cash etc)
Step two, deport those that fit the above exceptions, shoot them if they ever come back. Harshm but sends the meassage, YOU WILL NOT RUN US OR OUR LAWS.
Step Three, Promote Hegemony, With a melting pot culture. State Language shall be ENGLISH, and do not promote multicultrualisim, but assimilation, that is not to be dominated by any paticular ethnic group. Promote Patirotisim, and wein the illegals, now legal off of the goverment subsidies and find them jobs by FORCING US COMPANIES TO GET THERE ASSES BACK INTO THE US! You want to run your company with our flag, well when you call my house that number better not be coming from India.
Step Four, incresse border Security, while at the same time reducing the fees needed to come, increassing the time on a back ground cheack and not a pay cheak, look for loyality, not green backs. And lastly devide up the numbers from such countires so that the opinion that we only want whites here will cease to exsist.
But hell all of that would make sense.
I’m in favor of security, but as long as it is for the whole nation and leaves us out of a need to defend a region thats trying to bring us down Economically. (EU)
But to me her Legal Status isn’t the issue. The Issue for me is the crime, we lost four lives to neligance, and given her Status it is a crime the may only end in deportation.
Mookie, obviously you love illegals being here.
Enough said.
Go somewhere where you’ll be supported.
It won’t be on this site.
Wow.. Ralph Nader is joining the Presidential race.. kinda late start ain’t it Ralphie?
-Who will round up 12 million people?
Law enforcement. Run SSN databases at places of employment and at schools.
-How will they determine which ones to snatch and grab?
All of them.
-Where will you put them?
On buses back to Mexico.
-What happens to their property and possessions?
They get sold at auction if they can’t fit in a suitcase.
-How do you get them back to their country of origin?
On buses and airplanes.
It is not that difficult. They got here, they can leave. “Si, Se Puede!”.
How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico
Illegal Imigration? Eisenhower had an answer
Eisenhowers letter to congress
Operation Wetback
I think I will take my leave from this site as I have came to a conclusion. The Right is just as bad as the left. I agree with righties on some Culterual issues, but this in the case or the illegals is thinly Vailed Racisim. All of the border defense BS is aimed at Mexico, I will laugh and say told you so when a Russian crossing from Canada blows something up.
For one not all of them are from Mexico Some of these people may be from China or other nations and when returned they will be KILLED. And other wise are too poor to meet our qualifications for coming here. Hey doesn’t matter right? You can sit at home and watch TV, and no longer here press two for any other type of speach. And all for the fact they wanted to live here and loved this nation more than some of the Sorry SOB’s Born here.
Yes some only come here for cash, and as I said send them away, send the true criminals away. END MIGERANT WORKER PROGRAMS AND FORCE LIVING WAGES. But never turn aways those truely in need. Something many of you seem to have no problem with.
The Left is incomputant, Naive, week kneeded, diversivified to the point of fraturing, and have a love for a large punderous buerocracy and have no moral bases at all.
The Right, seems to want hardly no goverment unless its enforcing diehard Christian values, have a greedy mindset (Referance to any type of freewage program, or welfair.), and for the most have no problem with attacking China so we won’t have to pay off our debt. And is significantly in line with Material Wealth only.
Most of America isn’t with either side, but down the middle. Both sides forcing your with us compleatly or not at all WILL DOOM THIS NATION. What ever happend to the middle ground or having divirse views?
Can’t I love a strong small goverment, be against Abortion except on some cases (life endangerment cases), be anti Gay marraige, pro military, pro fair flate rate tax, and have some govermental regulation over key national assets,. So companies can’t buy off our polititions? Or must I tow two compleatly differnt party lines that at best only meet HALD of what I care about, and the other half I hate?
You know Michelle I got nothing against you at all, you are very good at what you do, thanks to your site I have seen many stories that the left tries and hush, and on Social issues I argee with conservitives, however on economics and a few others I am at compleat odds. I feel I no longer can be a member of this “community” but I will continue to read your site as it shows a side of the truth often hushed up, and I wish you best of health. However just some of the stupidity I see here from leftist trolls (IGM among others) and some ultra conservitives is just, well I can’t thing of a word, just some smug yet I just don’t know. Maybe my means are oldfashioned to an extent, but by god they got the job done.
Half* Forget the typo’s I’m out.
And I am still waiting for Geraldo to sputter and spit that this is not and illegal immigration problem.
oops! I mean, this is not an illegal immigration. Not feeling well this morning AND the races might get rained out again!
And you’re obviously a racist idiot who will get what she deserves in the end.
Enough said.
And again, how do you determine that? Are you just grabbing people who look Hispanic?
When is the maddness going to stop? When will our Government do something about this terrible problem? How many more innocent people have to die as a result of an illegal driving drunk without a legal drivers license?
I just want to scream when I hear of these accidents. The family that lost two children…well, they will never recover. I am praying for all of these families.
Mookie, the term “racist idiot” is a bit of a personal attack, no? and “get what she deserves…” could be interpreted as a threat…
I respectfully request that you correct the situation.
I’m perfectly ok with racist idiot. When someone says that they only want to get rid of the Hispanic illegal immigrants, there’s not a lot of room for doubt. As far as getting what she deserves in the end, I’m a big believer in karma,and anyone with that kind of hatred for an entire race of people sure isn’t building up a lot of the good stuff. Besides, how could I threaten her? I have no idea who she is other than a racist who posts on a blog.
I guess you missed Ret. Fireman’s personal attack on me.
There are already people whose job it is to snatch and grab” as you so hysterically put it. As far as where they are housed while awaiting deportation, that would still need to be worked out, now wouldn’t it? B?ut you type of reactionary hysteria of camps and such other nonsense is nothing more than apologetic nonsense that is what alloows 20 million+ illegals to exist in our country today and more to come every hour.
This nonsense about their belongings? Those are “ill gotten gains” as it were, purchased while living illegally in this country. As it is already the law that you are noy to benefit or profit from your crimes it is forfeit to cover the cost of deportation.
Sorry, but enough is enough. If you are worried about those, TK, that face political persecution upon arrival back in their own country of origin, that is what Political Assylum processes are for and have been in place for quite some time.
While Mookie would like to turn this into a big race issue and other ridiculousnwss, the fact is, there are 20 million plus people in this country who daily violate the laws of this country by being here. You do not reward them by allowing them to stay. You send them back to where they came from, make them get back in line with the rest of the people who want to come in and do what the law states. You do not start out taking short cuts.
So don’t turn this into something it is not Mook, because your BS is not going to work. I have not made this about race…you have. I have actuall sponsored someone who wanted to be here leagally and placed my reputation on the line should that person ever screw up. Can you say the same? No, I doubt it. But while you try to paint me and every one else who wants to keep the ILLEGALS out and send them back like the LAW says, you are the only one that exposed your own racist ideals and bigotry.
I said ALL. I know full well it is from everywhere. I have no problems with sending the Irish, Italian, Russian, Saudi and so forth. I have as big a problem with them as with the Mexican ILLEGAL alieans in this country. they have all broken the same law.
So take your cyber bullying elsewhere. It doesn’t work on me.
Take MY cyber bullying elsewhere? I think my irony meter just broke.
Every time Bush comes on TV and talks about helping kids in Africa with a retro-virus or some such self-serving feel-good cause (and of course that is a good thing), I’ll remember stories like this. And I’ll shake my head at the utter hypocrisy of it all.
I’m sick and tired of being called a racist and other not so nice names by people who want to turn this into a race issue all the time. Where these illegals come from is of no consequence, they’re here ILLEGALLY and they’re killing innocent Americans everyday. The jobs these people take are jobs that Americans used to do. But now Boss Man Jones can get Joe Illegal in to do the same job for less money than he had to pay Joe American. It’s an out of control problem and no one who is running for President really wants to do anything about it.
If this whatever her name really is is truly grief stricken, I would be surprised. She’s grief stricken she’s been caught, that’s all. I have no sympathy for her. I cannot fathom what the families of these 4 precious children, two from the same family are dealing with right now.
I would like to agree with a few of the others who would like to see living wages for Americans and out the door with the illegals. Those of you who believe we’re all racists, well there is no helping you. Papa Louie # 82, I had no idea about that. Thanks for the info.
Wow Mookie,
Deperate for your appeal, huh?
Racist? No. I am a citizen.
Your threats mean nothing to me and make you less than an illegal in my opinion.
Go on with your bad self.
Go to hell.
Mookie, I was just going to take a cheap shot and say, awwww the fireman called you a bad name so you turn around and take it out on the girl?… Ooooh, big man.
But I really must say that you should show some more respect for the ladies, trust me it’s the right thing to do.
3…2…1
Estimates of undocumented population
Americas Identity Crisis
The Weaponization of Immigration
USDOJ Statistical Year Book 2006
ICE 2006 Annual Report
The facts Ma’m only the facts.
Wait, “big man”? I’m confused. I’m not a man.
Oooops, my bad. Guess you can appreciate showing more respect for the ladies then…
Awwww crap, knowing that I might have held the door for you on the T really disturbs me…
Sorry the USDOJ link is the same as one of the others here is the correct link.
USDOJ Statistical Year Book 2006
terrig, Do you remember when Rudy G. was running against David Dinkins? His then wife Donna G. said ” I am sick & tired of the double standard where a black man who promotes black causes is proud & a white man who promotes white causes is racist”.
Don’t let the name calling get to you…
Why? This is their argument your a racist because of undocumented workers, 57% from Mexico, 24% from Latin America 9% from Asia 6% from Europe and Canada and 4% from the rest of the world. The argument that you are racist is invalid because like me, you want all Illegals Aliens out, which make up the racial make up of the U.S. don’t let it bother you, you are no more racist than the trolls are.
that should have been
which is the racial make up
Wow Mookie,
Once again you do not surprise me.
Cursing now huh?
I am impressed, as are many others.
Your true colors are showing!
Keep it up!
4% from the rest of the world? You mean we can’t even tell???
What is 4% of 20 Million?
800,000 I believe
To be clear, I’m not saying that people who want to solve the immigration crisis are racist. I’m saying that people who only want to get rid of Hispanic illegal immigrants are racist.
Mookie as long as you refer to the immigration crisis as a CRISIS we may just get along, mam… You are right, we need to address the other 30% of the problem too… Deport them all.
Sorry, brooklyn you and mookie have used the wrong terminology, there is not an immigration crisis it should be…
Illegal Immigration Crisis
Illegal Alien Crisis
Undocumented Immigrant Crisis
but I’m prone too mistakes to so just sayin.
Mule of course you are right…
This was in today’s Washington Times
Boy, 7, hit by ID theft
CARPENTERSVILLE, Ill. — Police in a Chicago suburb say the Internal Revenue Service has told a 7-year-old boy he owes back taxes on $60,000 because someone else has been using the youngster’s identity to collect wages and unemployment benefits.
Officers in suburban Carpentersville said Friday the second-grader’s identity has been in use by someone else since 2001. Detectives have filed a felony identity-theft charge against 29-year-old Cirilo Centeno of Streamwood, Ill.
They accuse Mr. Centeno of using the boy’s personal information to collect more than $60,000 in pay and services while working three jobs. They say he also used the boy’s ID to buy a truck, pay bills and even collect unemployment benefits.
I read that article also.
Soon, most of us will meet the same fate.
Awwww, I got the cutest lil pamphlet in the mail from the Federal Trade Commission about how to avoid identity theft called “Deter-Detect-Defend”
Now why would anyone with their own identity want to steal mine???
Deport-Deport y Deport!
It’s unfortunate that the terms “illegal alien” and “Mexican” or “Hispanic” have really become interchangeable. It allows legitimate debate over illegal immigration to devolve into race-baiting and name-calling, which doesn’t do us any good. Sadly, arguments similar to the one on here are played out all too often on the 24hour cable channels, in 5 minute tit-for-tats that resolve nothing and probably make the viewers dumber for having watched them.
I wonder if there is a correlation between the rise of technological media and the widening of the political gap between Americans. Of course, maybe it was just the ’60’s. I wasn’t around back then.
I forgot you, here are some statistics, still looking for the original document this came from.
INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants
2006 (First Quarter) INS/FBI Statistical Report on Undocumented Immigrants
CRIME STATISTICS 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.
86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.
75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.
24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally
40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally
48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally
29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually
53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border.
71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or “transport coyotes”.
47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.
63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens
66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66% 98% are illegal aliens.
gayle #141 said
Soon, most of us will meet the same fate.
Yeah, it can. I’ve been thinking about getting LifeLock, from what hear it works very well. I have friends who have been victims of identity theft and it took along time to get their credit cleared. I can’t for the life of me understand why so many states are against Real I.D.
If you’ve seen the new “green cards” there are 3 holograms and 2 bar codes on them. They are probably as tamper proof as you can possibly get. Why our own citizens can’t have something similar is nuts. When I got my S.S.card in 1967 it was just a piece of cardboard. They probably still are.
Mule, this is surprising since yesterday a fellow poster (can’t remember who) said the FBI doesn’t keep track… hmmmm guess they will reconsider.
madchef, I recommend Lifelock not only does it protect you, it makes life oh soooo much harder for those doing jobs we won’t do.
I believe that the Real ID, will have a RFID chip (common machine-readable technology) that potentially could give the government the ability to track an individual by satellite, the goverment could track your movement at any given time or place. Real ID will make identity theft easier. Assume that this information will be collected by businesses, and that it will be resold to companies. It actually doesn’t matter how well the states and federal government protect the data on driver’s licenses, as there will be commercial databases with the same information. REAL ID requires that driver’s licenses contain actual addresses, and no post office boxes. There are no exceptions made for judges or police — even undercover police officers. This seems like a major security risk. That is just a few of the concerns of Real ID.
Oh, I did’nt address the States being against it, that is because it would be up to the States to pay for it, Real ID with the RFID are expensive ultimatly adversly affecting State budgets.
ultimatley, adversely
I have LifeLock, it’s excellent so far. Cheaper than my previous credit manager and much more proactive than reactive.
It is the federal AND state governments that have failed us. Investigations into Hormel and Tyson plants take 2 years to accomplish, and round up 200 illegals, while 2 million have streamed in since. Tyson is given a slap on the wrist, not shut down as they should be.
Illegals steal identities like candy, because credit companies are eager to give out credit to anyone. Unemployment is paid to SSNs belonging to 2-year old children – something simple to check, but never checked, because of the incompetence of a government that can’t run a 2-second database search that even the worst DBA could manage.
Should the state and federal governments ever decide to actually TRY to stop identity theft, fraud, etc, it would reduce the lure.
There are plenty of those that would cry about how the crime rate would rise if we take away the jobs. I say, why would you want to give those type of people residency, then? With no jobs or free money, the non-violent will leave of their own accord (as they got here of their own), and the criminal will be caught as any other criminal, and jailed/deported.
The argument is muddied by calls of racism – a simple delay tactic. An across-the-board solution does not care which country the illegal is from. Denial of benefits, jobs and pay will universally diminish the risk of illegal entry. I welcome illegals of all countries to leave.
But far be it from those in power to lose a potential voting base. They prefer to pander to possibility rather than protect the constituency.
The ignorance of this issue will result in more problems than any solution would cause. The eventual retaliation against illegals grows in the border states, and from the looks of it, even in Northern states. It is not a pretty situation, and I would venture that exporting illegals will likely be for their own safety soon, not for ours.
It is a scary time for America. We lose our identity not from immigrants, but from immigrating nationalists. They deny the melting pot and persist their culture in ways not like St. Patrick’s day, but more like May Day. They parade the streets demanding rights of citizens, while officials welcome them with open arms and hope for their support for their next candidacy (hence the call for no identification at voting polls).
The flash point is coming. A tragedy like the four kids on the bus could easily be the spark. Americans have been downtrodden by their own politicians for long enough.
Mule, there will always be exceptions for the well connected, yes this will be abused, but judges & undercover types will be protected.
What’s in a name?
Thank you Blind_Mule@4:15PM for those stats. It boggles whatever mind I have left to see politicians look all sorry faced and shake their little heads when the issue of real immigration enforcement is brought up. It was dropped in the debates the minute Tancredo and Hunter dropped out.
I would love to sit on the jury for this person that committed several felonies before she even got a job here. Identity theft and illegally crossing an international border should qualify for felonies, right? The sympathy for her is going to swell withing the illegal community. Before it’s over, the kids will be the guilty ones.
brooklyn red, I still have not found the original doc for those stats or I would have posted the link to it but when I do I will.
The Real ID could potentially be abused by a big brother scenerio (Enemy of the State) or opportunistic hackers that would use information for financial gain and for the well connected and privileged, I’m sure there would be a provision set in place for them.
I’m not sure the Real ID could be any worse than the current situation. And if you think the government will be tracking you by satellite by the chip in the card, you’re damn well important enough that they’re already tracking you by a number of measures.
RFID has no signal strength, although maybe a future satellite could theoretically read it, it would be more likely that it is read by ground devices and relayed. With that scenario, your cell phone can do that much more readily (and currently).
Verifying identities isn’t that tough – fingerprints, retina scans + Identification. No one wants to put it in place, that’s all. All the technology exists now, even my laptop has a fingerprint reader.
If it is her first offense for illegal entry it is a misdemeanor and a felony after that and yes I believe that ID theft is a State felony and if charged federally it is also a felony
Enforcing the law is not illegal, nor is it racist. Every single one of these illegals has a sympathetic story, I am sure. We can’t be running a Disneyland for the Third World. We gave the illegal’s amnesty in 1986 and were told “that’s it”. Well, that’s it.
Well said Shark. As for violence sparked against illegal scum, I hope it’s sooner rather than later.
twoniner,
I’m not for violence (except against violent criminals), and I think that’s how you meant it, but that’s what is going to happen if nothing is done. And nothing is being done.
I did say potentially, and that is a good point, I don’t plan on doing anything that the government would track me for unless they try and take the population over, even using a ground to sat system would be possible. But why would the government want to implement a system that has the potential for such abuse? I personally do not trust the government in these types of issues, maybe I’m paranoid, maybe I’m not, time will tell.
I don’t have a cell phone.
Let’s divide the country in two. Those who live off the teet of the government and those who believe in the rule of law and taking care of you own. We would have to build a wall to kept the libs from crossing our border.
Now that sounds like a plan!
Don’t forget to add the moat with oodles of alligators.
Illegals ‘killing people’ is a huge stereotype and massive blanket statement that just doesn’t hold water on a numbers basis. There are plenty of Americans killing Americans too. The point is, there shouldn’t need to be a ‘reason’ such as this to precipitate action; they are ILLEGAL aliens – that’s all the reason there needs to be. This frothing at the mouth saying illegals are all killers is not that far removed from the rabid democrats in Berkeley calling all US Marines baby killers. You’re only making others disregard any valid points you may have.
Deport illegals aliens because they are breaking the law of the United States. Simple as that.
I’d like to add that there are many illegal aliens in this country that are hard-working and ‘good people’ – meaning people with religion and/or a strong sense of morality, in some cases stronger than many Americans I know, however the fact remains they are here illegally. Wanting to enforce the law is not a racial thing, nor is it a personal thing. If we as Americans are expected to live under certain laws, then everyone in this country should also live under those laws should they wish to remain here. Certainly when it seems those breaking the law by living here illegally appear to benefit from preferential treatment, then there is little reason for American citizens to live by the law any more.
FLASH! MN cops missed a SECOND chance to catch illegal alien Morales/Franco – just last month! This is in addition to her 2006 citation for driving (on someone’s lawn) without a license!
Read the sad story here.
What do politicians, Lawyers, Vacuum Cleaners and INS, have in common ? They all SUCK.