I’ve now worked for 3 years in a civilian capacity for a college town police department. One thing for which I was unprepared is the amount of alleged sexual assaults that have arisen from the hookup culture rampant among a certain age group on and off college campuses. I can attest to the resources spent on taking reports from and investigating alcohol-fueled morning after regret-filled sexual encounters. One recent example involved a victim who enjoyed an off-and-on again “friends with benefits” relationship with a fellow student who, on this occasion, prior to their liaison, had made it explicitly clear thru text messages that their visit that night would be solely for sex. She later learned that he allowed at least 2 friends to watch in the dark, from his closet. No charges of unlawful sexual contact (possible if being “peeped” or if one is subject to a flasher) could be brought forward, however, because the “victim” is still hoping her “friend” will come around and that it will evolve into “the real thing.” There are too many other similar instances to note, such as the young woman who only reported her sexual assault after finding that her electronics had been stolen from her apartment by the visiting non-students with whom she and her roommate had engaged in consensual group sex. She intimated to officers that she assumed her crime would get higher police priority if a sexual assault was added, despite having first called 911 for the robbery.

The article is making the case that many in the “rape industry” would classify that as rape since your judgement was impaired, when it is not.

That’s not rape. A “woozy” Yes is still a Yes. Although I admit it’s a precarious situation.

Part of the problem I have with writers like Stepp and MacDonald – and I think this thread confirms this – is that they are diluting what rape really means. If a girl says No or is too intoxicated to consent (passed out) or if they initiated sexual contact but said No to sex, they shouldn’t have to wonder if it wasn’t rape because they were drunk or the initial aggressor.

Those writers make them wonder.

The term “rape” has been tossed around so much in recent years as to become devoid of its meaning. Thus I appreciate Heather MacDonald’s nuking of the college-campus “all men are potential rapists” c……

On February 25th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, max said:
Rusty… so a guy is supposed to be able to handle himself when he’s drunk?…. but a girl, not so much… got it…

Try this on for size. Looking to marry the girl? Have a family with her? Are you about to do something you will be proud to share with your parents?

For chrissakes already, be a man, not a pig!

maybe a good old nice .38 revolver?… good stopping power and i don’t think she’d have that problem with first-round trigger strength…People poo-poo the .22 or .25 cal stopping power but at close range it would certainly give a potential rapist incentive to leave off the attack… (assuming a polite “no” doesn’t do the trick…)

what we are talking about here is the definition of rape

Girl says no or is too incapacitated to consent = rape.

Every. Single. Time. There is no gray area.

what we are talking about here is the definition of rape.. but thanks for portraying me as a moron who thinks rape is ok…