Comments on: FISA, fear, and Democrat frauds http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/ news and commentary from a conservative perspective Tue, 14 Feb 2012 06:15:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: emjem24 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/comment-page-1/#comment-254464 emjem24 Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:52:18 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/#comment-254464 Lgm: <blockquote>If you believe everything Bush says, I’ve got some WMDs to sell you. You are learning why telling the truth is a good idea. If you get in the habit of lying, people get into the habit of ignoring you. That’s why people ignore Bush now, people with any sense anyway.</blockquote> I guess since you can't debate on the <strong>REAL</strong> substantive issues at hand, let's bring it back to that old WMD canard. Redirection is always the favorite tactic of dems. Yeah, lgm, you really know what the truth is. No, you disagreed with the war and in your eyes it was a lie. I really wonder how YOU tell the truth from a lie- when it suits you or when it doesn't? Perhaps, this is why you are routinely ignored and derided. Have you renounced your membership in the <a href="http://www.othersteve.com/images/troll.jpg" rel="nofollow">Troll Liberation Front yet</a>? Lgm:

If you believe everything Bush says, I’ve got some WMDs to sell you.

You are learning why telling the truth is a good idea. If you get in the habit of lying, people get into the habit of ignoring you. That’s why people ignore Bush now, people with any sense anyway.

I guess since you can’t debate on the REAL substantive issues at hand, let’s bring it back to that old WMD canard. Redirection is always the favorite tactic of dems.

Yeah, lgm, you really know what the truth is. No, you disagreed with the war and in your eyes it was a lie. I really wonder how YOU tell the truth from a lie- when it suits you or when it doesn’t? Perhaps, this is why you are routinely ignored and derided.

Have you renounced your membership in the Troll Liberation Front yet?

]]> By: emjem24 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/comment-page-1/#comment-254457 emjem24 Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:43:54 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/#comment-254457 Wow, the Dims really have their priorities straight, don't they? Instead of taking national security seriously, it's become more about terrorists' civil rights. With a snoozing American public enraptured in Obamamania, it's the perfect situation to cry fear mongering! Thanks for putting politics before national security as usual, Dims. Oh, and to use telecom immunity as your chief defense against signing any legislation is a red herring. I'm glad we got that figured out. Wow, the Dims really have their priorities straight, don’t they? Instead of taking national security seriously, it’s become more about terrorists’ civil rights. With a snoozing American public enraptured in Obamamania, it’s the perfect situation to cry fear mongering!

Thanks for putting politics before national security as usual, Dims. Oh, and to use telecom immunity as your chief defense against signing any legislation is a red herring. I’m glad we got that figured out.

]]> By: Bob69 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/comment-page-1/#comment-254365 Bob69 Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:58:17 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/#comment-254365 Would someone list the "66 lawyers" who have contributed 1.5 mil? IT would be very very interesting... Yah? Would someone list the “66 lawyers” who have contributed 1.5 mil? IT would be very very interesting… Yah?

]]> By: graysonret http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/comment-page-1/#comment-254107 graysonret Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:33:50 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/#comment-254107 The only thing that concerns me about all this wire-tapping, is when enough is enough. Governments have a very bad track record when it comes to infringing on rights. The expression, "Okay, I have nothing to hide", is exactly what the government wants to hear. First, against terrorism, then against any form of "crime". "Okay, I have nothing to hide." Like in England, "Want to come in and check my place without a warrant or cause? Okay, I have nothing to hide." Question is, when is enough enough? Government history shows, once they get a foot in the door, it swings open all the way. 20 years from now, are we going to hear that the government will subject all cell phone/landline phone conversations to random review, for security? At the same time, will we hear, "Okay, I've got nothing to hide" too? I'm not against this tool against terrorism, but it's like holding an angry dog by the tail. You can't hang on, but you sure can't let go. (not a sermon, just a thought) The only thing that concerns me about all this wire-tapping, is when enough is enough. Governments have a very bad track record when it comes to infringing on rights. The expression, “Okay, I have nothing to hide”, is exactly what the government wants to hear. First, against terrorism, then against any form of “crime”. “Okay, I have nothing to hide.” Like in England, “Want to come in and check my place without a warrant or cause? Okay, I have nothing to hide.” Question is, when is enough enough? Government history shows, once they get a foot in the door, it swings open all the way. 20 years from now, are we going to hear that the government will subject all cell phone/landline phone conversations to random review, for security? At the same time, will we hear, “Okay, I’ve got nothing to hide” too? I’m not against this tool against terrorism, but it’s like holding an angry dog by the tail. You can’t hang on, but you sure can’t let go. (not a sermon, just a thought)

]]> By: ArmoredCAV http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/comment-page-1/#comment-254093 ArmoredCAV Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:32:22 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/#comment-254093 “<em>To put it bluntly,</em> if the enemy is calling into America, we really need to know what they’re saying, and we need to know what they’re thinking, and we need to know who they’re talking to,” Bush said at the start of his annual meeting with the nation’s governors at the White House. Sorry, this is not blunt enough. That is the problem. “To put it bluntly, if the enemy is calling into America, we really need to know what they’re saying, and we need to know what they’re thinking, and we need to know who they’re talking to,” Bush said at the start of his annual meeting with the nation’s governors at the White House.
Sorry, this is not blunt enough. That is the problem.

]]> By: dakine http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/comment-page-1/#comment-254036 dakine Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:24:58 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/#comment-254036 Good post Mark. Good post Mark.

]]> By: zyzzyg http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/comment-page-1/#comment-253988 zyzzyg Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:43:01 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/#comment-253988 Someone please help me understand when the enemy is calling, why isn't there a cruise missile heading in that direction and hitting them before they hang up the phone? Moreover, what prevents securing a warrant and collecting the needed intelligence? Just follow the law. Who has a problem with following the law? What is scary is that Pres Bush wants to understand the mentallity of these killers. You have got to be kidding me. If you don't already know that by now you have got serious problems. As for the Democrats, they are being too cute by half in adding comments about the economy and other policies. They should focus on what is necessary and unnecessary to collect intelligence ... and, that is simply a warrant. Having a warrant protects the phone companies. And, both sides should be specific when talking about domestic and foreign surveillance. As for the past actions of the phone companies, exigent circumstances should be an element in this arguement and Pres Bush snould consider doing what he did for Scooter Libby. The phone companies helped and Pres Bush should stand by them, even it means being a witness on their behalf in a court of law. Someone please help me understand when the enemy is calling, why isn’t there a cruise missile heading in that direction and hitting them before they hang up the phone?

Moreover, what prevents securing a warrant and collecting the needed intelligence? Just follow the law. Who has a problem with following the law?

What is scary is that Pres Bush wants to understand the mentallity of these killers. You have got to be kidding me. If you don’t already know that by now you have got serious problems.

As for the Democrats, they are being too cute by half in adding comments about the economy and other policies. They should focus on what is necessary and unnecessary to collect intelligence … and, that is simply a warrant. Having a warrant protects the phone companies. And, both sides should be specific when talking about domestic and foreign surveillance.

As for the past actions of the phone companies, exigent circumstances should be an element in this arguement and Pres Bush snould consider doing what he did for Scooter Libby. The phone companies helped and Pres Bush should stand by them, even it means being a witness on their behalf in a court of law.

]]> By: Barry F. http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/comment-page-1/#comment-253956 Barry F. Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:52:36 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/#comment-253956 <blockquote>Perino said the Democrats’ use of the phrase “scare tactics” must “be like one of their favorite words — it must poll very well, because they use it almost every time. What we have done is state facts.”</blockquote> That should have been quoted. I guess that's what I get for typing too fast, huh? LOL

Perino said the Democrats’ use of the phrase “scare tactics” must “be like one of their favorite words — it must poll very well, because they use it almost every time. What we have done is state facts.”

That should have been quoted. I guess that’s what I get for typing too fast, huh? LOL

]]> By: Barry F. http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/comment-page-1/#comment-253954 Barry F. Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:51:53 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/#comment-253954 Perino said the Democrats’ use of the phrase “scare tactics” must “be like one of their favorite words — it must poll very well, because they use it almost every time. What we have done is state facts.” My wife and I just had a discussion with our daughter on liberals, socialism, etc. tonight. Of course, we made it around to FISA and how the liberals are wanting to kill it under the guise of infringing upon peoples privacy. She was pretty astute for a teenager. She couldn't see what people were afraid of the Feds running across, if you don't have anything to hide. When it was explained even farther to her that they are only looking for calls to or from known or suspected terrorists she got this look of amazement on her face and asked what their problem is with that. I told her, "I really don't know, Sweetie. But, don't question their patriotism, they really don't like that." ;-) Perino said the Democrats’ use of the phrase “scare tactics” must “be like one of their favorite words — it must poll very well, because they use it almost every time. What we have done is state facts.”

My wife and I just had a discussion with our daughter on liberals, socialism, etc. tonight. Of course, we made it around to FISA and how the liberals are wanting to kill it under the guise of infringing upon peoples privacy.

She was pretty astute for a teenager. She couldn’t see what people were afraid of the Feds running across, if you don’t have anything to hide. When it was explained even farther to her that they are only looking for calls to or from known or suspected terrorists she got this look of amazement on her face and asked what their problem is with that.

I told her, “I really don’t know, Sweetie. But, don’t question their patriotism, they really don’t like that.” ;-)

]]> By: Barry F. http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/comment-page-1/#comment-253952 Barry F. Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:44:50 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/#comment-253952 <blockquote>On February 25th, 2008 at 7:33 pm, lgm said: If you believe everything Bush says, I’ve got some WMDs to sell you. </blockquote> Did you get them from Saddam? All this time, I thought they were shuttled out to Syria or the like. ;-)

On February 25th, 2008 at 7:33 pm, lgm said:

If you believe everything Bush says, I’ve got some WMDs to sell you.

Did you get them from Saddam? All this time, I thought they were shuttled out to Syria or the like. ;-)

]]> By: Blind_Mule http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/comment-page-1/#comment-253946 Blind_Mule Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:28:01 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/#comment-253946 <blockquote>tim zank said: Can you imagine how long it would take to read all those messages? Daily? Much less “interpret” them? I have Arizona beach front property for sale for those of you that think we have the time, resources, and where-with-all to look at every individual message on the internet and analyze exactly what people are doing.</blockquote> A company of <a href="http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/3301655.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=BAA3E61C514E7EC670E8F3D580B62AD4A55A1E4F32AD3138" rel="nofollow">gnomes</a> heads for work at AT&T “secret rooms” hidden deep in the bowels of its central offices in one of it's various city offices.

tim zank said:
Can you imagine how long it would take to read all those messages? Daily? Much less “interpret” them? I have Arizona beach front property for sale for those of you that think we have the time, resources, and where-with-all to look at every individual message on the internet and analyze exactly what people are doing.

A company of gnomes heads for work at AT&T “secret rooms” hidden deep in the bowels of its central offices in one of it’s various city offices.

]]> By: Blind_Mule http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/comment-page-1/#comment-253937 Blind_Mule Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:02:59 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/#comment-253937 </a><blockquote>garyt said: LGM,,,,, I hope your city isn’t involved in the next attack. I wonder if you live out in the suburbs</blockquote> Noooo, <a href="http://www.mcotie.com/images/illustrations/bridge_troll.jpg" rel="nofollow">trolls</a> live under bridges.

garyt said:
LGM,,,,, I hope your city isn’t involved in the next attack. I wonder if you live out in the suburbs

Noooo, trolls live under bridges.

]]> By: shooter http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/comment-page-1/#comment-253933 shooter Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:57:37 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/#comment-253933 <blockquote> On February 25th, 2008 at 7:33 pm, lgm said: If you believe everything Bush says, I’ve got some WMDs to sell you.</blockquote> Can't get much more ironic than that.

On February 25th, 2008 at 7:33 pm, lgm said:
If you believe everything Bush says, I’ve got some WMDs to sell you.

Can’t get much more ironic than that.

]]> By: garyt http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/comment-page-1/#comment-253921 garyt Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:28:20 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/#comment-253921 LGM,,,,, I hope your city isn't involved in the next attack. I wonder if you live out in the suburbs, but once again they may surprize us and hit the burbs. Do you think the Muslims and Al Queda are not telling the truth when they want the west destroyed? They tell us this daily and even after 9-11 we have those who don't believe their threats. I probably would not have believed 9-11 myself if I was forewarned. I believe the demos have ears who can't hear and have eyes that cannot see. What a way to run national security. I hope LGM enjoys Sharia law. LGM,,,,, I hope your city isn’t involved in the next attack. I wonder if you live out in the suburbs, but once again they may surprize us and hit the burbs. Do you think the Muslims and Al Queda are not telling the truth when they want the west destroyed? They tell us this daily and even after 9-11 we have those who don’t believe their threats. I probably would not have believed 9-11 myself if I was forewarned. I believe the demos have ears who can’t hear and have eyes that cannot see. What a way to run national security. I hope LGM enjoys Sharia law.

]]> By: tim zank http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/comment-page-1/#comment-253897 tim zank Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:48:51 +0000 http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/25/fisa-fear-and-democrat-frauds/#comment-253897 Can you imagine how long it would take to read all those messages? Daily? Much less "interpret" them? I have Arizona beach front property for sale for those of you that think we have the time, resources, and where-with-all to look at every individual message on the internet and analyze exactly what people are doing. Sho is a lotta stupid people out there. Can you imagine how long it would take to read all those messages? Daily? Much less “interpret” them? I have Arizona beach front property for sale for those of you that think we have the time, resources, and where-with-all to look at every individual message on the internet and analyze exactly what people are doing.

Sho is a lotta stupid people out there.

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