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1. #1
   On February 25th, 2008 at 12:07 pm, Barry F. said:

   All they have to do is bide their time–and shamnesty will be theirs!

   …courtesy of McCain-Kennedy and whichever politician gets elected POTUS.

2. #2
   On February 25th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, letget said:

   I doubt the police will go after the gangs in California with much gusto. We can’t do anything about illegals now can we? They have rights and lawyers defending them at our expense. The police won’t defend our military in Berkley. They just stand by and let the nuts run the show. I can not understand the people in California putting up with this.
   L

3. #3
   On February 25th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, Romeo13 said:

   Truly sad to see my old hometown of Atwater in this article…

   I can attest to the change in the town… its gone steadily downhill for years. I can’t even go running or biking when I go home to visit my Mom, its just too dangerous… and yes, even though my Mom hates it… my .45 is usualy with me when I go there…

   Sad, truley sad…

4. #4
   On February 25th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, tre said:

   They’re just doing the drive-by’s, drug dealing, murdering, and gang violence that Americans won’t do. After all, do you know of any Americans who are willing to do any of those things for the amount of money an illegal will take to do them?

5. #5
   On February 25th, 2008 at 12:23 pm, Your Brother John said:

   Madness.
   Are we at the point where dealing with murderous gang members is considered racist?
   Sorry about the rant. I know they are just hard working gang bangers trying to help their families and deserve to be here more than nurses from India or an entrepreneur from Africa.

6. #6
   On February 25th, 2008 at 12:27 pm, greenfairie said:

   It ain’t just in Cali, people! It was like this in Northern VA before I moved to SoCal. If it’s not in your county, your town, or your state now, it will be soon. There are illegal aliens in places like Minnesota, Oklahoma, or western Pennsylvania, where there were none or hardly any 10-15 years ago. I’ll bet you 50 loonies that pretty soon our friends in Canada will find MS-13 and the Latin Kings in their backyard too if they’re not there already.

7. #7
   On February 25th, 2008 at 12:29 pm, Mach1Duck said:

   My early childhood was spent in Delano, CA. My grandparents, a life long residents died there in th 70′s. As my dad was in the military, I watched from afar as the town prospered and then decayed. A real shame, no one I know lives there anymore.

8. #8
   On February 25th, 2008 at 12:30 pm, formerwm said:

   This heartbreaking. I see it spreading like a cancer throughout our country. I do not see any of our esteem candidats addressing this issue enough. Something has got to change and our laws enforced.

9. #9
   On February 25th, 2008 at 12:36 pm, babbledabble said:

   When Bambi becomes Pres he will just sit down with them & have a friendly little chat & all will be well. sarc/off Seriously why doesn’t someone send this information as well as all the other about the deaths by illegal drivers, to McCain, Bambi & Hillary (and Pres Bush too for that matter) & ask for their comments & what THEY plan to do about it.

10. #10
    On February 25th, 2008 at 12:36 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch we have El Presidente Calderon asking Congress not to impose conditions on the $1.4 billion “anti-drug aid package” we are giving to Mexico. I believe his words were “Give it to me” and “I cannot accept any submission or subordination.” What are we giving them money for? It seems we are paying them for the day laborers, crime, identity theft, their drain on the US economy and healthcare system, and did I mention crime? Invasion.Indeed.

11. #11
    On February 25th, 2008 at 12:41 pm, Barry F. said:

    There you go, 30. You had to bring up the Merida Initiative and make my blood boil over us forking over money to Calderon and his gang to seal their Southern border, while ours stands wide open.

    Now my blood is boiling again. I have no use for Bush, Clinton, Obama or McCain or any other politician in Washginton, when it comes to securing our borders and protecting our home front.

12. #12
    On February 25th, 2008 at 12:41 pm, ajmontana said:

    dont forget the seage thats still pouring in daily 30pcs.
    le poop, import of mexico

13. #13
    On February 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, ajmontana said:

    sewage…opps.

14. #14
    On February 25th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, ajmontana said:

    from mexico…sheesh.

15. #15
    On February 25th, 2008 at 12:46 pm, gayle said:

    We have those gang member in my area too.

    In fact, my county was in the top 25 nationwide for illegal drug traffic “commerce”.

    Makes me soooo proud.

    and YES, it is mostly illegals. I read the crime report on a weekly basis, just in MY town….not to mention surrounding areas.

16. #16
    On February 25th, 2008 at 12:47 pm, zorro said:

    Liberal policies come home to roost. And if California expects any positive action from Atty. Gen. Moonbeam (Jerry Burnout Brown), good luck.

17. #17
    On February 25th, 2008 at 12:52 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    All they have to do is bide their time–and shamnesty will be theirs!

    No kidding….. no matter who is elected in this presidential election, shamnesty won’t be far off…… the only hope we really have is to turn enough seats in Congress so that the bill won’t be able to make it to the presidents desk.

18. #18
    On February 25th, 2008 at 12:52 pm, spidgy said:

    On February 25th, 2008 at 12:30 pm, formerwm said:
    This heartbreaking. I see it spreading like a cancer throughout our country. I do not see any of our esteem candidats addressing this issue enough. Something has got to change and our laws enforced.

    I lived in NC from 2001-2005 and it had already started before we moved. Signs of it starting in WNY where we live now. It’s a plague and the only solution is to hold our elected officials’ feet to the fire and demand that they stand by their holy oaths to enforce the laws and uphold the Constitution.

19. #19
    On February 25th, 2008 at 12:55 pm, ThackerAgency said:

    The worst thing about all this is the people who say that we should allow this invasion of non-Americans would also be appalled at an American invasion of Mexico.

    It seems as though the only thing politically correct in this country is anything that will destroy the country. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

20. #20
    On February 25th, 2008 at 12:58 pm, bananny said:

    Ahhh, but don’t you know that we here in Southern California are told endlessly that these are “remote” cases (literal figments of our imaginations) and that we are nothing but hateful, racist, nativist, xenophobes?

    And then this delightful news from numbersusa this morning regarding the SAVE Act:

    “…Senior Democrats, worried that they may not be able to keep the bill tied up in committee, have come up with a Plan B — muddling the issue by attaching a killer amendment to the Shuler bill, which would come in the form of an amendment proposed by Rep. Joe Baca, California Democrat and chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.

    The Baca Amendment would give illegal aliens who pass a background check a “five-year temporary worker permit” that expires on Dec. 31, 2012. It would also provide employers who hired illegal aliens “safe harbor” (apparently some measure of immunity from prosecution) for past hiring of illegal aliens. If Mr. Shuler gets enough signatures to force his bill to the floor to be debated, Democrats hope to neuter it by attaching the Baca Amendment. If Mr. Baca’s proposal were to become law, open-borders advocates could come back later and pass legislation putting these illegals on a path to citizenship. While not endorsing the Baca Amendment, a senior official with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce told Congressional Quarterly that he believed there was “some kind of deal in the works.”

21. #21
    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:00 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Barry F, I have a hard time forgetting about it. The unmitigated gall of these people astounds me. We can fork over billions of dollars to Mexico for their border security meanwhile we supposedly have a lousy 70 miles of fence built and monkey-wrench after monkey wrench has been offered up to thwart all efforts to continue building this fence. So, I share your ire.

    _______________________________________

    Aj, you are funny even when you aren’t trying to be.

22. #22
    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:03 pm, guitarguy said:

    Folks, if our elected ‘leaders’ don’t have the grapes to do what’s right for our country, then who?

    Militia…?
    KKK…..?
    Aryan Nation?

    I’m throwing this out there as a serious: ‘Who’s going to solve this problem?’ issue.

    I am not a member of any of those orgs, I’m just wondering who’s left to step up to the plate. I don’t see this being resolved politically.

    And no one’s mentioned Geraldo’s rant from this Sunday newspapers.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/02242008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/why_the_gop_lost_voters_like_me_98990.htm

    …….please note how many times he mis-spells ‘illegal’…..

23. #23
    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:09 pm, Barry F. said:

    Hmmmm? I never knew Geraldo *gag* Rivera to have been a Republican. Was it a momentary transformation he felt like he had to do to join Fox News or something, before quickly reverting back to being a liberal Democrat again?

24. #24
    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:10 pm, Your Brother John said:

    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:03 pm, guitarguy said:
    Folks, if our elected ‘leaders’ don’t have the grapes to do what’s right for our country, then who?

    It’s not necessary to bring up groups like that, Blacks in L.A. are being pushed out by the racist Hispanics and aryans would not help that situation. Good Americans of all creeds are the solution to these anti-American invaders and collaborators

25. #25
    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:10 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    Kansas City is dealing with more and more gang violence, the Latin gangs are moving in and the black gangs are increasing the violence to hold there territory. Gangs have been a problem here since 1988 and before that the Mafia. I live about 3 blocks from what is called in the KC area as Little Italy, it is a whole series of houses where the Civellas and their underlings live and I say live because the Mafia still exists under the FBIs and local Police radar here, they still have their network and money. I’ve seen the Civella boy’s running around town with their body guards, one owns a whole in the wall bar and the other a restaurant that are fronts for drug trafficing and no telling what else, some of the black gangs tryed moving into this area and it turned into a blood bath for them, the Italian Mafia is silent but deadly in this area and I fear that if the Latino gangs try to move in their will be another. The Civellas do not take kindly to someone trying to take or do business in their turf. I think the Mafia is more civilized, you don’t mess with them they don’t mess with you although I don’t think any of them should exist.

26. #26
    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:11 pm, Azygos said:

    Each morning my wife and I turn on the morning news and play “Guess that surname.” Anyone else want to play along?

27. #27
    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:12 pm, graysonret said:

    If our elected officials refuse to do anything about our borders, I guess it leaves me with only 1 choice: learn Spanish. The new official language endorsed by Congress, the President, and state/county officials.

28. #28
    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:14 pm, BOB said:

    It’s mostly Democrats who are pushing hard for shamnesty, and, unfortunately, some Republicans. Yet the Democrats I know are all against amnesty, and for border security. The disconnect they have between what they want and their party is greater than the Republicans….yet they keep trying new ways for shamnesty, over and over.

29. #29
    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:15 pm, madchef said:

    Where is the DHS? Our nation is overrun with street gangs. California has over 720 known major gangs totaling over 40,000+ members. MS-13 alone has over 50,000 members spread across 37 states & 6 countries. Americans are 10 times more likely to be murdered by a gangbanger than an al queda terrorist.
    Before our congress concerns itself with what watt light bulb I use, how about addressing something of urgent importance like the spread of street gangs.

30. #30
    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:18 pm, Your Brother John said:

    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:11 pm, Azygos said:
    Each morning my wife and I turn on the morning news and play “Guess that surname.” Anyone else want to play along?

    You are not alone I live in New Mexico and the best part is when they won’t give a description of the suspect.
    So there is a killer running around but you won’t tell me who to watch out for?

31. #31
    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:21 pm, Blind_Mule said:

    guitarguy said:
    Folks, if our elected ‘leaders’ don’t have the grapes to do what’s right for our country, then who?

    Militia…?
    KKK…..?
    Aryan Nation?
    I’m throwing this out there as a serious: ‘Who’s going to solve this problem?’ issue.

    I would go with malitia idea.

    Note to self: More Guns and Ammo

32. #32
    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:36 pm, realitycheck said:

    It’s a plague and the only solution is to hold our elected officials’ feet to the fire and demand that they stand by their holy oaths to enforce the laws and uphold the Constitution.

    That and make sure you and your loved ones are armed to the teeth. If this gang and illegal crime trend continues, the depiction of the future in Mad Max will be pretty prophetic.

33. #33
    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, madchef said:

    I think that the time is right for a gang of our own. The Pi$$ed Off Voters, or POV-1776. Perhaps if POV did some drive-bys on corrupt politicians they would get the message that they work for us. We spend hundreds of billions of dollars to fight foreign terrorists, lets put some more to combat domestic terrorists, which is exactly what these street gangs are.

34. #34
    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:46 pm, Boomer said:

    The Mexican gangs are infiltrating Idaho too. It is just a matter of time before the good citizens here have to step in because the local authorities will not. The only thing many of us see in agricultural communities being imported by illegal invaders is a significant rise in drunk driving, crime, drug trafficking, gang violence, and disease. Our government officials do not care about our safety and security brining this issue to a point where the push back by the average citizen will be very ugly. Most folks here are arming up wanting to protect themselves and their families along with serious worries of what the coming election cycle may do to our second amendment rights.

35. #35
    On February 25th, 2008 at 2:03 pm, bit_boy said:

    RE: tre #4 – do you know of any Americans who are willing to do any of those things for the amount of money an illegal will take to do them?

    They make it up in volume.

36. #36
    On February 25th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, JohnnyDilznik said:

    Good thing Edmond is focused on suing the EPA over global warming. The real threat.

37. #37
    On February 25th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, AuntiEm said:

    They are here in Northeast PA too. Of course its a short trip from New York or New Jersey.Guardian Angels in rural PA. What a picture that presents. But they are here discussing options.Not that we have many sidewalks to patrol on and the gated communities give cover to the criminals.

38. #38
    On February 25th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    On February 25th, 2008 at 1:46 pm, Boomer said:
    The Mexican gangs are infiltrating Idaho too. It is just a matter of time before the good citizens here have to step in because the local authorities will not.

    Yeah, law enforcement is often nuetered by the politicians who may be left-leaning softie solcialists, fearful of retribution by the latino gangs, backlash from the ACLU, or are being paid off by gangs (or their enablers) to look the other way.

    Many small town law enforcers are ill-equiped to take on the evergrowing sophistation, brutality and firepower of these gangs.

    What needs to happen is state and federal intervention to assist the locals to eradicate these vermin with extreme prejudice. And tell the ACLU to stuff it.

39. #39
    On February 25th, 2008 at 2:27 pm, GaijinBob said:

    Blind_Mule said:
    

    Note to self: More Guns and Ammo

    A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition.
    - Rudyard Kipling
    
    madchef said:
    

    Perhaps if POV did some drive-bys on corrupt politicians they would get the message that they work for us.

    I thought that’s what the 2nd Amendment was really all about. (Though it seems like most defenders of it treat it like nothing more than a constitutional right to a collector’s hobby. )

40. #40
    On February 25th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, countrybumpkin said:

    I’m almost encouraged by the actions of some states and locals, AZ and OK for example. Perhaps we have a better chance changing things closer to home than we do in DC.
    We need to organize, make our opinions known, and blast them for their stupidity.
    We need a catchy name. “Americans for a Sovereign State” wouldn’t work would it.
    (ASS?) Guess not.

41. #41
    On February 25th, 2008 at 2:58 pm, Alphonse said:

    On February 25th, 2008 at 12:23 pm, Your Brother John said: Madness.
    Are we at the point where dealing with murderous gang members is considered racist?

    And xenophobic.

    Such selfishness. We must look at if from the perspective of Congress. Hispanics vote largely as a racist bloc, so both parties support illegal migration for the vote. Breeding jackpot babies means Democratic voters for the future. For Republicans on the pad of business, illegals mean cheap labor. How can the views of the public compare to these temptations?

42. #42
    On February 25th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    Diversity: Norteños, Sureños, Loc Town Crips…

    …. MS-13

    Hannity had a great piece on this last night on Fox News. He called it “The Price We Pay”. I have to tell ya after seeing that show last night I would definitely be moving if I lived in a boarder state.

43. #43
    On February 25th, 2008 at 3:21 pm, gayle said:

    We even had a local commissioner’s home broken into three time by illegals.

    The same ones each time.

    They even found them in their HOUSE in broad daylight.

    Do you think anything has improved?

    a resounding NO.

44. #44
    On February 25th, 2008 at 3:22 pm, gayle said:

    oops, that should be three “times”….sorry!

45. #45
    On February 25th, 2008 at 3:24 pm, realitycheck said:

    We live in Colorado – not a border state. We just received our insurance bills for our motorcycles for the coming year. They increased by over $125 per bike. All but about $15 of that was for uninsured motorist. Guess who the majority of uninsured motorists are around here?

    Another example of the rising costs of illegal immigration. (But they’re just driving the unisured vehicles that Americans won’t drive…)

46. #46
    On February 25th, 2008 at 3:50 pm, twoninerkilo said:

    Yeah! Our GOP leaders want us to vote for McCrazy. Remember that in November, if you want more of the same. It will be easier to fight the Dhim empty shirt than the Open borders SOB that can lead the Republicans around by the nose.

47. #47
    On February 25th, 2008 at 3:54 pm, sunandsteel said:

    Seems to me like this plague is everywhere, even the small towns. I can’t go anywhere without seeing their stupid tags all over the walls. And whats more pathetic is seeing these kids, some younger than 10 I’d say, wearing shirts or caps with Sureno on them, people looking the other way, saying its their culture.

48. #48
    On February 25th, 2008 at 4:37 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    No where in the article is it noted that this gang proliferation is due to illegals.
    The only immigration mentioned in the article is that of the gangs moving to the small towns.

    Not that illegals can’t be a part of the problem, but the supposition could be viewed by apologists as an attack with no foundation.

49. #49
    On February 25th, 2008 at 4:45 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

    sorry, strike immigration and make it migration.

50. #50
    On February 25th, 2008 at 5:58 pm, docflash said:

    Now that Iraq is under control lets move the surge here.

51. #51
    On February 25th, 2008 at 6:42 pm, nyc123me said:

    coming to a town near you…

52. #52
    On February 25th, 2008 at 6:53 pm, Leatherneck said:

    Charles Bronson, moon base to Charles Bronson, come in CB. Your needed on the front line, repeat, your need on the front line. Over.

    Moon Base out.

53. #53
    On February 25th, 2008 at 7:04 pm, almeehan said:

    Calling Charles Bronson!! 2nd Amendment time when the government is incapable of protecting it’s citizens.

54. #54
    On February 25th, 2008 at 9:42 pm, garyt said:

    Eastern Washington is gang infested as well. MOst of our towns are tagged up and neighborhoods have gone downhill. Some places its not safe to bike or hike even. Yet our liberal demo leaders who want shamnesty never have to face the real world like shopping in tagged out stores that the labeling is in Spanish. Sometimes they put in English as well. Just seems we have lost our culture in one lousy generation and my prediction is that English won’t be needed except maybe in the Liberal homes and Canada.