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1. #1
   On February 26th, 2008 at 10:33 am, purplepeep said:

   Rather did hedge a bit saying if the story wasn’t true they could be “in a heap of trouble”

   DannyBoy knows whereof he speaks.

2. #2
   On February 26th, 2008 at 10:38 am, cpodug said:

   Trust him.

   - about as far as I can throw the Golden Gate Bridge.

   Gunga Dan wanted to be the most trusted man in America, following in the hallowed footsteps of Uncle Walter(who was not to be trusted in his own right), sort of like the Pied Piper.

   He was a good umpire, who “calls ‘em like he sees ‘em.” Problem is, he could never see ‘em.

   Now he’s on the same high lofty plain as Ted “Windbag” Kennedy and John F’n Kerry.

   Trust him! *snort*

3. #3
   On February 26th, 2008 at 10:39 am, W_over_w said:

   “Do not fear the enemy, for your enemy can only take your
   life. It is far better that you fear the media, for they
   will steal your HONOR. That awful power, the public opinion
   of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant,
   self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and
   shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the
   poorhouse.” –Mark Twain.

4. #4
   On February 26th, 2008 at 10:41 am, bironetworks said:

   It’s a sad day when you’ve got Dan Rather coming off your bench. Stephen Glass and Franklin Foer should be ringing in here any minute with their take on ethics and ‘journalism’.

5. #5
   On February 26th, 2008 at 10:41 am, geminicontender said:

   When will he just go away?

6. #6
   On February 26th, 2008 at 10:45 am, On-my-soap-box said:

   Mark Twain

   He was not off by much was he now!

7. #7
   On February 26th, 2008 at 10:45 am, walterc said:

   “Try not to help us Dan.” NYTimes

   Of all the people to come out and endorse thes idiots, he’s the last one I would have figured.

8. #8
   On February 26th, 2008 at 10:45 am, Chard402003 said:

   What does he mean “they’ll be in heap of trouble if the story is not true”. What story - McCain met with a lobbyist. The NYT story didn’t have any other facts - some other innuendo, but no facts. Rather just suffers from Republican Derangement Syndrome.

9. #9
   On February 26th, 2008 at 10:51 am, LC said:

   “Birds of a feather flock together.”

   One of the few truths in life that have stood the test of time, in my opnion.

10. #10
    On February 26th, 2008 at 10:52 am, Speakup said:

    Now if they can’t back it up any further than they have it, they’re in a heap of trouble

    Danny boy should know. Interesting though that Rather would hold the NYT accountable since he’s still pretty sure his faux journalistic performance was unfairly punished.
    Must be, accountable for thee but not for me.

11. #11
    On February 26th, 2008 at 11:02 am, ex-expat said:

    Poor, deluded man. He’s a shining example of what can happen when a personal agenda gets the upper hand.

12. #12
    On February 26th, 2008 at 11:03 am, southsideironworks said:

    Further proof that Dan Rathers days as a serious journalist have long since passed.

13. #13
    On February 26th, 2008 at 11:06 am, Blind_Mule said:

    Yep, I think Dan is right “on the record, it deserves to be said these are very responsible journalists.” and we all know Dan created the record. I think he is an in credible idot.

    Dan Rather, attempting to indonctrinate the American mind for 58 years.

14. #14
    On February 26th, 2008 at 11:10 am, JConrad999 said:

    Courage.

15. #15
    On February 26th, 2008 at 11:12 am, cpodug said:

    In a nutshell:

    Dan Rather -> New York Times

    as

    Iceberg -> Titanic

16. #16
    On February 26th, 2008 at 11:16 am, MrVIBEMAN said:

    Concerning the NYT, how about…
    “The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers”
    -Thomas Jefferson

    and

    “People everywhere confuse what they read in newspapers with news. ”
    -A. J. Liebling

    Concerning Dan Rather, how about….
    “In the case of news, we should always wait for the sacrament of confirmation”
    -Voltaire

    and

    “The one function that TV news performs very well is that when there is no news we give it to you with the same emphasis as if there were.”
    -David Brinkley

17. #17
    On February 26th, 2008 at 11:17 am, Barry F. said:

    DAN RATHER: We’ve said McCain has a good record. We’ve all said, listen he’s a good man with a good record. Jim Rutenberg, who was the lead reporter on this, Bill Keller who’s the editor who made the decision, these are not ordinary journalists. These are outstanding journalists and that probably needs to be said. Now if they can’t back it up any further than they have it, they’re in a heap of trouble. But, on the record, it deserves to be said these are very responsible journalists.

    CHRIS MATTHEWS: And oftentimes journalists know things they don’t report and that knowledge guides their reporting.

    The Dan Rather Seal of Approval. Well that’s it, folks. The story is as solid as they come.

    /sarcasm off

    Just who does Dan Rather think he is? What moron would take him seriously, after the fabrications that he pushed? Geez!

    Move along, now. Nothing to see here but liberals covering for liberals.

18. #18
    On February 26th, 2008 at 11:18 am, Jim M. said:

    Certainly, if Rather’s conduct is to be the baseline for setting a standard of journalistic integrity, then what the NYT did was not so bad. They did not use fabricated evidence, ignore expert opinions that the materials they were relying upon were poor forgeries, nor eventually admit the fabrication of the base materials and continue to claim that the entire incident was true.

    Dan Rather is the epitome of an individual employing the psychological defense mechanisms of rationalization and self delusion. Defense mechanisms, by the way, we frequently see used by those accused of murder and other serious felonies.

19. #19
    On February 26th, 2008 at 11:19 am, Barry F. said:

    On February 26th, 2008 at 10:41 am, bironetworks said:
    It’s a sad day when you’ve got Dan Rather coming off your bench. Stephen Glass and Franklin Foer should be ringing in here any minute with their take on ethics and ‘journalism’.

    Foer and TNR were behind the push to go ahead and get the NYT to run the piece on McCain. I’m pretty sure he thinks it is a solid piece of “journalism”, as solid as they come from TNR anyhow.

20. #20
    On February 26th, 2008 at 11:22 am, Barry F. said:

    On February 26th, 2008 at 11:18 am, Jim M. said:
    Certainly, if Rather’s conduct is to be the baseline for setting a standard of journalistic integrity, then what the NYT did was not so bad. They did not use fabricated evidence, ignore expert opinions that the materials they were relying upon were poor forgeries, nor eventually admit the fabrication of the base materials and continue to claim that the entire incident was true.

    We haven’t seen all the fallout yet, Jim. There may be much more light to be shed on what these “journalists” did or did not know.

21. #21
    On February 26th, 2008 at 11:46 am, DanME said:

    One word comes to mind: Arrogance

22. #22
    On February 26th, 2008 at 11:55 am, BrianNY said:

    CHRIS MATTHEWS: And oftentimes journalists know things they don’t report and that knowledge guides their reporting.

    And many times it doesn’t, as in the “Obamaesque” free ride the Clintons received from the MSM building up to the 1992 Presidential Election.

    The only thing more embarrassing than round-table journalists inventing past events are round-table journalists pretending that some past events never happened.

23. #23
    On February 26th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, greenfairie said:

    The New York Times: Fake, But Accurate.

24. #24
    On February 26th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, Dimsdale said:

    Dan Rather endorsing the veracity of the NYTimes is a little like Hitler endorsing your invasion of Poland.

25. #25
    On February 26th, 2008 at 12:54 pm, emjem24 said:

    I didn’t know that Dan Rather was still around. I guess all you have to do these days is just mention “Republican” and “scandal” and he’ll come a-runnin’!

26. #26
    On February 26th, 2008 at 1:00 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    Dan Rather endorses the NYTimes–because he knows “responsible,” “outstanding” journalists when he seems ‘em. Trust him.

    I literally just laughed out loud.

27. #27
    On February 26th, 2008 at 1:05 pm, The Raging Republican said:

    On February 26th, 2008 at 10:39 am, W_over_w said:

    “Do not fear the enemy, for your enemy can only take your
    life. It is far better that you fear the media, for they
    will steal your HONOR. That awful power, the public opinion
    of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ignorant,
    self-complacent simpletons who failed at ditching and
    shoemaking and fetched up in journalism on their way to the
    poorhouse.” –Mark Twain.

    Hammer meet nail.

28. #28
    On February 26th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, graysonret said:

    Any newspaper that agrees with your political agenda is a responsible and responsible paper with great journalists. Trouble is, NYT has no reporters/journalists. They’re all commentators and who write news editorials masked as journalism.

29. #29
    On February 26th, 2008 at 3:11 pm, Larraby said:

    Dan Rather is the same “journalist” who attended a Democratic Party fundraiser in Texas while he was CBS anchor. Rather is the same “journalist” who went on the air breathless and delirious when the Florida Supreme Court overturned Judge Sauls and virtually ordered the election of Al Gore. But after showing his happiness at what the Florida Supreme Court had done, Rather asked rhetorically: “What will the Republican US Supreme Court do?”. Rather was sliming the members of the US Supreme Court who were nominated by Republican presidents. In the Rather gospel, no judge appointed by a Republican president is anything other than a hack who will do the bidding of Republican presidential candidates. Of course, Rather never used the expression “The Democrat Florida Supreme Court” although all of the members of that court were Democrat appointees (Jeb Bush even allowed a Chiles nominee to sale through on Jeb’s watch) and Rather did not mention that many of the Florida Supreme Court justices had been active in Florida Democratic Party politics. I am always one step ahead of Rather. He thinks his past is forgotten but it is not.

30. #30
    On February 26th, 2008 at 4:34 pm, BadIdeaGuy said:

    Today Maxim Magazine apologized (at least half-heartedly) for reviewing the Black Crowes’ new album without listening to it in its entirety. I’d rate Maxim as having more integrity than Rather (and by reference, the NYT).

31. #31
    On February 26th, 2008 at 4:48 pm, carstairs38 said:

    Just when I thought the NYT’s reputation could sink any lower, Dan helps them.

    What are friends for?

32. #32
    On February 26th, 2008 at 5:34 pm, CC said:

    Wasn’t Rather the person who also said he was a fair and impartial journalist?

    Wonder what he puts in his cocktails?

33. #33
    On February 26th, 2008 at 10:22 pm, a crapweasel said:

    What’s the frequency Kenneth?