Yep, another Democrat debate…and another Hillary Clinton Cackle Count; Update: Hillary denies knowledge of Obama African robe photo; Hillary whines, Obama keeps cool; Update: Obama questioned about Farrakhan/Pastor Jeremiah Wright; Update: Pop quiz! Name Putin’s successor; Hillary: “I still intend to do everything I can to win”
Scroll down for updates…Cringeworthy video of Hillary’s whine and failed SNL reference here…“Maybe we should ask Barack if he’s comfortable and needs another pillow”…and vid of Hillary’s tax dodge here…
How many “last stands” does Hillary get? The MSNBC debate starts at 9pm and will drone on for 90 minutes.
I’ve liveblogged so many of these debates, I can liveblog them in my sleep:
Hillary plays passive-aggressive, praising Obama’s message of unity while mocking the empty rhetoric of unity without EXPERIENCE.
Hillary attacks Obama’s lack of an individual mandate in his health care reform plan. Obama sighs, patiently explains why affordable health care will persuade people to buy health care on their own.
Hillary Bush-bashes. Obama Bush-bashes.
Hillary says she’s against the war. Obama says he was always against the war.
Hillary plugs her housing bailout plan. Obama plugs his housing bailout plan.
Obama recites his biography. Audience cheers. Obama remembers to pull out Hillary’s chair for her.
Debate ends. Hillary launches new, dirty attack.
We’ll see if Russert and Williams take up Hillary’s campaign trail histrionics and how deeply they dig into Obama’s Rezko deal.
No-Doze, anyone?
Oops, I forgot the Hillary Clinton Cackle Count. I think she’ll toss in a few extra ones. I’m betting on eight cackles tonight. Your guess?
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9:06pm Eastern. Williams starts right off contrasting video clips of Hillary “honored” soundbite from the last soundbite and her screechy “Meet me in Ohio” threat from the campaign trail.
She stiffly talks about their differences, whines about some Obama campaign flyer, and segues right into…her health care mandate attack. “We should have a good debate with accurate information…”
9:08pm Eastern. Williams asks about the African garb photo. Did it come from her camp?
“So far as I know, it did not. I know nothing about it. That’s not the kind of behavior that I condone or expect from the people working in my campaign.”
She looks bitter, tired, angry.
9:10pm Eastern. Obama defends his criticism of Hillarycare…Hillary attacks Obamacare.
Hey, did I call this or what? Not that it wasn’t as predictable as the sunrise or the sunset…
By the way: They look like they really, really HATE each other.
Individual mandate, children covered, not adults, blahblahblah.
9:20pm Eastern. Williams intervenes to talk about NAFTA.
Hillary’s whining about getting the first question all the time in debates.
Meltdown. Waaaaaah.
9:22pm Eastern. She’s whining about wanting a real debate and wanting to get what the real issues are.
Obama says simply: “I think it is inaccurate for Hillary Clinton to say she’s always opposed NAFTA.”
9:25pm Eastern. Russert double-teams with Obama on Hillary
on NAFTA.
She starts snarling about how her record “has always been consistent.”
She wants America to be more like Germany.
Gawd.
9:33pm Eastern. Russert asks Hillary about her unfulfilled pledge to create 200,000 new jobs in depressed Buffalo.
Try not to glare, Hill, try not to glare.
9:37pm Eastern. Obama’s talking about Iraq. His judgement is sound.
Hillary gets to talk about EXPERIENCE now.
There’s still an hour left in the debate and they’ve covered all their key talking points. What’ll they do to fill the rest of the time?
Boy, am I off on the cackle count, though. Hillary’s got too much smoke coming out of her ears.
9:50pm Eastern. Yet another awkward moment as Hillary elbows into Obama’s Iraq discussion. She wants to get in a last word and Williams cuts her off for a commercial break.
Obama stands for Hillary. She’s not getting up.
Oooh, I can imagine the sniping going on right now on stage during the commercial break.
Maybe she won’t come back!
9:55pm Eastern. Williams asks Obama about Hillary’s celestial skies diss.
I think Hillary showed some good humor. I would give her points for delivery.
CACKLE!!! WE’VE STRUCK GOLD!!!
Obama segues into a stump speech on his record for CHANGE.
9:58pm Eastern. Hillary defends her “celestial skies” attack. “I was just trying to have fun. It’s hard to have fun on the campaign trail.
Agh, she’s so brittle, it pains me to watch.
10:00pm Eastern. Williams goes to a video of Obama attacking the Clinton co-presidency. Obama defends his criticism.
Hillary questioned on tax records.
Boos?
10:10pm Eastern. Obama distances himself from Farrakhan. I can’t say to somebody that he can’t say that I’m a good guy…I’ve consistently denounced it.
Russert cites Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s pastor. Wright praised Farrakhan. What do you do to assure Jewish Americans that…you are consistent with issues regarding Israel?
“Tim, I have some of the strongest support from the Jewish community in my hometown of Chicago…I have been a stalwart friend of Israel…”
Hillary’s thinking: Is this a debate? I want a question! I want a question!
10:14pm Eastern. Hillary butts in to say she rejects anti-Semitism, too! “I wouldn’t be associated with people who said such thing…important to stand on principle and reject it.”
Russert: Are you suggesting Obama isn’t standing on principle?
Hillary wants Obama to be stronger: “There’s a difference between denouncing and rejecting.”
Obama: “I reject AND denounce!” if it makes Hillary happy.
Applause.
10 more pitiful minutes left.
10:21pm Eastern. Williams cites National Journal rating of Obama as more liberal than Ted Kennedy. How can he win in a general election?
Obama calls the rating “silly.” He’s using up a lot of time. “Proof is in the pudding. We’ve been attracting more independents and Republicans than anyone else.” Hillary’s champing at the bit.
10:23pm Eastern. Russert asks Clinton about Putin’s successor. “He’s a hand-picked successor. Very little independence. So-called leading oppo figure spends most of his time praising Putin. Clever but transparent way of Putin holding on to power.
Clinton gets an “A” for preparedness. This would have been a better question to ask Obama.
Russert tries to stump her: Do you know his name?
Clinton: Uh…Medve–
Russert: “Medvedev.
Clinton: “Medvedev. Whatever.”
Laughter.
Russert to Obama: What do you know?
Obama: Same talking points.
Last question: Anything -words, votes – you would take back?
We’ve had this regret question before from Monsignor Russert. Yawn.
Hillary says her war vote.
Obama would have stood up and said something more about the Schiavo debate in Congress.
Obama then takes advantages of the remaining time to talk about past 20 debates and give his gentlemanly kiss-off to Hillary while reminding voters of the need to “change how business is done in Washington.”
Williams ends with last question to Obama first:
What’s the fundamental question Hillary must answer to convince voters she should be the nominee?
Obama: “She’s qualified, but I’m more qualified, otherwise I wouldn’t be running. She’d be better than McCain. I don’t think she has to answer a question about whether she’s capable. The reason I’m better is that I can bring this country together in a unique way–and that’s what’s going to be required to deliver. And I have a track record…I bring a unique bias in favor of opening up govt, pushing back special interests, making govt more accountable.”
Hillary answers:
“Well, Brian, there isn’t any doubt that both of us feel very strongly about our country…As I said, you know, it’s been an honor to campaign (so insincere!)…I still intend to do everything I can to win (very, very sincere!)…obviously, I’m thrilled to be running to be the first woman president (applause)…My question: Who can actually change the country?”
…And, as I wrote more than 90 minutes ago, we end with the obligatory Obama chivalry move–standing for Hillary, pulling out her chair, and patting her on the back.
It must have felt like patting an iceberg.
Brrrrrrr.
Remember her words, Barack:
I still intend to do everything I can to win.
Promise…or threat.
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I want to see fireworks!
If not, I’ll switch channels.
And that is why I am not watching it.
LOL Michelle, “Public official A” was named Gov. Bag-o-chips from Illinois in the Rezko case yesterday.
I’ll be lazy tonight and let you all tell what happens and I’ll read it in the morning. Thanks all and Michelle.
Here is the link about Gov. Bag-o-chips. From the pictures, you would think Gov. Bag-o-chips would lend some of his hair to Rezko.
Wow! Another Dem debate…ZZZZ
debate? is that what they were?
the million dollar question is..
why another one?
Shame on you Barrack Obama, cackle, cackle. Oh, and it’s all Bush’s fault!!!
4 cackles.
4 cackles and a tear.
Oh will this woman just GO AWAY?
And take her husband with her?
OK, I’ll bet the 4 cackles, a tear and add a glare.
Oh goody, wagers. I’m guessing Obama lifts 4 lines and Hillary steals from her Hubby at least 8 times.
who is moderating?
If you’re setting the over/under on Hillary cackles at 8, I’m taking the over.
You are a braver person than I am Michelle. I don’t think I can stand to watch another Democrat snoozefest. I will go out on a limb with 10 cackles, 2 tears, one glare, and a shame on you Obama.
I wonder if Chris Dud’s endorcement will help Obama. Or if Billy will hurt Hillary by asking the people of Ohio to elect him. Her campaign is doing about as well as her health care plan back when it failed. And I love it.
A bunch of far left loons.
Russert and WIlliams I think.
I’ll raise you 3 sighs from B.H. Obama, and a fainting audience member (front 3 rows) that they both “fight” to get water and help for.
Ah the fainting goat theory. One poster on here the other day had a great link. Texas Tiger? I know Texas was in the name.
O.k., I raise on the fainter and say that there will be two, your guy in row three and then Hillary when she understands she lost the debate.
What’s the over/under on how many times we will hear “Change”?
I hope HRC beats his pants off – i can’t stand either one but he is by far the worst of the two. Is MM pulling for BHO?
Michelle, no one will blame you if you skip this debate… 499 were more than enough.
Hillary seems in a bad mood lately, I’ll bet only 5.
Now it’s movie time, I DVRd “The Buccaneer” with Fredrick March last night. The War of 1812 and the Battle of New Orleans. One of my favorites.
I want Bill Cunningham to moderate the debate tonight. There would be real fireworks!
She needs to come out swinging tonight, so the cackle-factor will be held to a minimum. I say 2 tops.
OK, I’ll raise it to 3 Hillary roll of the eyes.
LOL Over/under of…say…a baker’s dozen each? Less than 1 per minute seems light.
How about an over/under for pointless softball questions not related in anyway to the campaign – 1 each? (Think “pantsuit or dress”)
Wonder if Hillary is using this shampoo before the debate tonight?
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Business/5ae667d1-eff5-488a-b08b-8262bf100a3e_ms.jpeg
LOL!
I’ll see your eye rolls and raise you two shrieks
American Idol anyone?
Boy glad I had to eat. I would have lost on that one. I thought 1 pantsuit on HIllary and Obama to be in his Somali garb.
There’s one glare.
Bigtime.
Come Clean Malkin, you wrote the type on the telepromter. You can’t hide it any longer. LOL
Who is more tired, the audience or Obama?
I just wanted to express my feelings on debates with a PICTURE and also how I bet HRC is feeling with her campaign staff.
what a whiner…..
I am in TX and our primary is coming up (in fact, early voting has started). I wonder if it is a good idea to vote in the dem primary on purpose just to make sure Hillary Clinton is out. Input is very welcome. The question is: if a dem is elected in Nov. and I think one will be, which one of these 2 sickos will be less dangerous. Also, which one will be more easily defeated taking into consideration that many of the republican base may not be enthusiastic to vote for McCain, like myself.
Looks like the gloves are off! Dang, I love watching the Dems beat themselves bloody. GO NEGATIVE! HIT BELOW THE BELT, lets see an eye gouge! wOOt!
OH MY GOD! SHE BROUGHT UP SNL! It’s over folks.
What was that??? I keep getting the first question? Whine, whine…I’m a woman, they don’t treat me well.
waaw, it is interesting. Now she is attacking Brian about being asked first always…..
Did anyone else think that it was really awkward when Hillary was complaining about always getting the first question?
I think that REALLY made her look bad.
Healthcare is the most important issue? Is that right HIllary? War on Terror ring a bell? Illegal aliens invading ring a bell? Economy ring a bell?
Hillary: John, the war on terror is a police matter and stop with bashing the undocumented workerts and the Economy is all Bush’s fault.
I’m practicing writing their next debate.
Yeah, Brian … why you gotta beat up on the girl? Give a sistah a break, why don’t you? By the way Barak, Need another pillow … glass of hot tea perhaps?
I agree DearkKnight #42. Did I hear some boos?
Smoke is coming from Hill and her last engine is sputtering. Hope there’s gas in the tank for impact.
What an ANGRY witch she is tonight… give Obama a pillow based on SNL skit… what the hell was that? She has absolute ANGER in her eyes.
Now it’s Tim’s turn to beat up on her. *Sigh* Is there no shame? (I hope the sarcasm isn’t glooping up your monitors. If it is I’ll cut back.) ROFLMAO
Big mistake taking on Russert! LOL!
Anyone keeping track? I saw one glare. Any roll of the eyes yet?
She try to put teeth where?? (preemptive apology to MM)
John #45, I definitely heard some boos.
She sounds downright angry.
I’m glad Russert is staying on the candidates and pursuing straight answers.
Man, she is downright surly tonight.
I would not want to be the one to tell her that it’s over.
Bash Bush time
Barack is Presidential whether you agree with him or not, Hillary is NOT!
Score one for Obama … first one to attack the Bush record. He’s playing this perfectly and she looks desperate.
God is Russert going after her. He’s on a mission to destroy her.
“As POTUS I’ll Have more tools at my disposal” Hillary.
Yes, Bill Clinton is a tool
“Yeah dog, It was all over the place. I’m just not feeling ya tonight, dawg. Just keepin it real.”
Rick #58, he’s asking the questions nobody would ask before. It’s not an attack on her, IMHO. Maybe she should have not attacked Russert over the DL Issue?
I’m not an Obama fan at all and I’m not watching the debate. Somehow watching “The Buddy Holly Story” on TVLand is more entertaining. However, from what I reading I had to add another PICTURE.
on a happy note……
first spring training baseball games on tomorrow….
now back to our regurlarly scheduled BS debate……
Did anyone hear about the story of the British-Iraqi billionnaire who gave big $$$$$ to BO to help purhase his Georigia style mansion, the same mansion that REzco helped him out with? How come no one is talking about that (other than Michael Savage and Fox a bit).
Rockies are on 850am KOA tomorrow afternoon. Can’t wait!
Paula said: “I just (garbled speech) wasn’t that (unintelligible slur) I just love you. YOU ARE A STAR! Tonight, though, (garbled slur) not that great.”
Why won’t Russert ask BO about Rezco and the British-Iraqi billionnaire? What about his lack of experience? What has this guy done? I hate Hillary, but I think all the attacks from the so called moderators are against her and none towards this empty guy that so many empty people follow.
Hillary knows that earlier comment about SNL and the pillow bombed big time. She’s been angry every since.
Simon: “Totally karaoke. A cruise ship waiter could have performed that better.”
Dave, you just ended a long debate with that one picture. Generations will thank you as they will no longer have to ask:Ginger or Mary Ann.
You sir deserve a medal.
Don’t worry about the cackle count.
She’s gonna do a Yosemite Sam Smokestack!
Unless some serious blunder occurs by Obama, Hillary is officially out of here….
Bye Bye
you may rally at the end, and I thought a tear was close, there were glares though 4sure. nice call on that blameamericalast….lol
Hillary is so mad, look at how she stares down Russert. I better if she is tipped a little harder she’ll go off over the “pimp” comment.
I’ll skip this one. If I wanted to watch a catfight…I’d watch our cats fight.
John Ansell:
Here’s the link to the official Obama Fan Club web site.
As a bonus, here’s a link to footage from Obama-nation.
You mean like Bush’s experience? Hillary’s experience of Bimbo eruptions?? I think one thing he answered correctly is “Years in Washington don’t equate to experience” just like being in the military or a POW don’t automatically make one CinC material.
When I did the picture, I never thought of it in that context, but I hope I helped that debate move along.
And when I read this, well…….I had to pull myself out of the floor from laughing. Thanks John.
Obama owns right up to it… the guy is honest. Even as a conservative this is why I like him.
Hillary thinking: “Note to self: Tim Russert is dead to this campaign after tonight. No more “Meet the Press” interviews … oh, speaking of dead, call the boys about invoking the Vince Foster ultimatum.”
yeah, we better hope they both walked through metal detectors on the way in.
did someone just yell out “go home hillary”??? lmao
This KILLS Hillary. Awesome they played it. Makes her look like a total FOOL!
cackle rally!
First and second cackles. Everybody take a shot.
cackle, cackle……..
Time for that smoke to become a real fire.
olympian that tape imho was the best thing hillary has done to this point, first thing of hers I ever liked.
Bush had a lot more experience than BO. How could ayone compare the 2? Bush was a governor of a huge state, he had an executive position, generally highly acceptabe experience for President (just look at history). Hillary has no experience, but BO has EVEN LESS than her (he was in the senate for ONE year when he started running). BO is an empty person who happens to speak somewhat well. So, should we elect Tony Robbins, or one of those charlatan TV evangelists who swindle people for money? This guy is a product of the Chicago machine and he loks crooked. He is ust not getting attacked and I can’t stand Hillary.
You know, I’m no doctor (though I play one on TV) but the co-president/picking your accomplishment crack had to hurt.
WAFFLES ANYONE?
Finaly, a somewhat tough question for BO about financing. He sounds like he is waffling.
Problem is ajmontana, that video of dramatic Hillary to Democrats is POISON, a HUGE turnoff.
and im ok with that.
More boos … she is sooooooo burnt toast. God she is pathetic.
Hillary slapped around again on that tax records question. LOL! Tim is kicking ass taking names. I love it!
PLLLEEEEZE, everything is Bush’s fault
wow hillary is trying to weasel out of her not releasing her joint tax returns….. how can so many people not see though this women???…hillary talks about transparency in government the only thing transparent is her lust for power…god save us.