Yep, another Democrat debate…and another Hillary Clinton Cackle Count; Update: Hillary denies knowledge of Obama African robe photo; Hillary whines, Obama keeps cool; Update: Obama questioned about Farrakhan/Pastor Jeremiah Wright; Update: Pop quiz! Name Putin’s successor; Hillary: “I still intend to do everything I can to win”
If looks could kill…
Scroll down for updates…Cringeworthy video of Hillary’s whine and failed SNL reference here…“Maybe we should ask Barack if he’s comfortable and needs another pillow”…and vid of Hillary’s tax dodge here…
How many “last stands” does Hillary get? The MSNBC debate starts at 9pm and will drone on for 90 minutes.
I’ve liveblogged so many of these debates, I can liveblog them in my sleep:
Hillary plays passive-aggressive, praising Obama’s message of unity while mocking the empty rhetoric of unity without EXPERIENCE.
Hillary attacks Obama’s lack of an individual mandate in his health care reform plan. Obama sighs, patiently explains why affordable health care will persuade people to buy health care on their own.
Hillary Bush-bashes. Obama Bush-bashes.
Hillary says she’s against the war. Obama says he was always against the war.
Hillary plugs her housing bailout plan. Obama plugs his housing bailout plan.
Obama recites his biography. Audience cheers. Obama remembers to pull out Hillary’s chair for her.
Debate ends. Hillary launches new, dirty attack.
We’ll see if Russert and Williams take up Hillary’s campaign trail histrionics and how deeply they dig into Obama’s Rezko deal.
No-Doze, anyone?
Oops, I forgot the Hillary Clinton Cackle Count. I think she’ll toss in a few extra ones. I’m betting on eight cackles tonight. Your guess?
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9:06pm Eastern. Williams starts right off contrasting video clips of Hillary “honored” soundbite from the last soundbite and her screechy “Meet me in Ohio” threat from the campaign trail.
She stiffly talks about their differences, whines about some Obama campaign flyer, and segues right into…her health care mandate attack. “We should have a good debate with accurate information…”
9:08pm Eastern. Williams asks about the African garb photo. Did it come from her camp?
“So far as I know, it did not. I know nothing about it. That’s not the kind of behavior that I condone or expect from the people working in my campaign.”
She looks bitter, tired, angry.
9:10pm Eastern. Obama defends his criticism of Hillarycare…Hillary attacks Obamacare.
Hey, did I call this or what? Not that it wasn’t as predictable as the sunrise or the sunset…
By the way: They look like they really, really HATE each other.
Individual mandate, children covered, not adults, blahblahblah.
9:20pm Eastern. Williams intervenes to talk about NAFTA.
Hillary’s whining about getting the first question all the time in debates.
Meltdown. Waaaaaah.
9:22pm Eastern. She’s whining about wanting a real debate and wanting to get what the real issues are.
Obama says simply: “I think it is inaccurate for Hillary Clinton to say she’s always opposed NAFTA.”
9:25pm Eastern. Russert double-teams with Obama on Hillary
on NAFTA.
She starts snarling about how her record “has always been consistent.”
She wants America to be more like Germany.
Gawd.
9:33pm Eastern. Russert asks Hillary about her unfulfilled pledge to create 200,000 new jobs in depressed Buffalo.
Try not to glare, Hill, try not to glare.
9:37pm Eastern. Obama’s talking about Iraq. His judgement is sound.
Hillary gets to talk about EXPERIENCE now.
There’s still an hour left in the debate and they’ve covered all their key talking points. What’ll they do to fill the rest of the time?
Boy, am I off on the cackle count, though. Hillary’s got too much smoke coming out of her ears.
9:50pm Eastern. Yet another awkward moment as Hillary elbows into Obama’s Iraq discussion. She wants to get in a last word and Williams cuts her off for a commercial break.
Obama stands for Hillary. She’s not getting up.
Oooh, I can imagine the sniping going on right now on stage during the commercial break.
Maybe she won’t come back!
9:55pm Eastern. Williams asks Obama about Hillary’s celestial skies diss.
I think Hillary showed some good humor. I would give her points for delivery.
CACKLE!!! WE’VE STRUCK GOLD!!!
Obama segues into a stump speech on his record for CHANGE.
9:58pm Eastern. Hillary defends her “celestial skies” attack. “I was just trying to have fun. It’s hard to have fun on the campaign trail.
Agh, she’s so brittle, it pains me to watch.
10:00pm Eastern. Williams goes to a video of Obama attacking the Clinton co-presidency. Obama defends his criticism.
Hillary questioned on tax records.
Boos?
10:10pm Eastern. Obama distances himself from Farrakhan. I can’t say to somebody that he can’t say that I’m a good guy…I’ve consistently denounced it.
Russert cites Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s pastor. Wright praised Farrakhan. What do you do to assure Jewish Americans that…you are consistent with issues regarding Israel?
“Tim, I have some of the strongest support from the Jewish community in my hometown of Chicago…I have been a stalwart friend of Israel…”
Hillary’s thinking: Is this a debate? I want a question! I want a question!
10:14pm Eastern. Hillary butts in to say she rejects anti-Semitism, too! “I wouldn’t be associated with people who said such thing…important to stand on principle and reject it.”
Russert: Are you suggesting Obama isn’t standing on principle?
Hillary wants Obama to be stronger: “There’s a difference between denouncing and rejecting.”
Obama: “I reject AND denounce!” if it makes Hillary happy.
Applause.
10 more pitiful minutes left.
10:21pm Eastern. Williams cites National Journal rating of Obama as more liberal than Ted Kennedy. How can he win in a general election?
Obama calls the rating “silly.” He’s using up a lot of time. “Proof is in the pudding. We’ve been attracting more independents and Republicans than anyone else.” Hillary’s champing at the bit.
10:23pm Eastern. Russert asks Clinton about Putin’s successor. “He’s a hand-picked successor. Very little independence. So-called leading oppo figure spends most of his time praising Putin. Clever but transparent way of Putin holding on to power.
Clinton gets an “A” for preparedness. This would have been a better question to ask Obama.
Russert tries to stump her: Do you know his name?
Clinton: Uh…Medve–
Russert: “Medvedev.
Clinton: “Medvedev. Whatever.”
Laughter.
Russert to Obama: What do you know?
Obama: Same talking points.
Last question: Anything -words, votes - you would take back?
We’ve had this regret question before from Monsignor Russert. Yawn.
Hillary says her war vote.
Obama would have stood up and said something more about the Schiavo debate in Congress.
Obama then takes advantages of the remaining time to talk about past 20 debates and give his gentlemanly kiss-off to Hillary while reminding voters of the need to “change how business is done in Washington.”
Williams ends with last question to Obama first:
What’s the fundamental question Hillary must answer to convince voters she should be the nominee?
Obama: “She’s qualified, but I’m more qualified, otherwise I wouldn’t be running. She’d be better than McCain. I don’t think she has to answer a question about whether she’s capable. The reason I’m better is that I can bring this country together in a unique way–and that’s what’s going to be required to deliver. And I have a track record…I bring a unique bias in favor of opening up govt, pushing back special interests, making govt more accountable.”
Hillary answers:
“Well, Brian, there isn’t any doubt that both of us feel very strongly about our country…As I said, you know, it’s been an honor to campaign (so insincere!)…I still intend to do everything I can to win (very, very sincere!)…obviously, I’m thrilled to be running to be the first woman president (applause)…My question: Who can actually change the country?”
…And, as I wrote more than 90 minutes ago, we end with the obligatory Obama chivalry move–standing for Hillary, pulling out her chair, and patting her on the back.
It must have felt like patting an iceberg.
Brrrrrrr.
Remember her words, Barack:
I still intend to do everything I can to win.
Promise…or threat.
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I think BO was waffling on his supposed denouncement of his anti-semetic pastor. Why not ask him why he belongs to a church that preaches black values, black this, black that, why belong to such a church where you have to be subjected to preaching that includes racism? I think I know the answer. But will anyone call BO out on that?
You don’t get elected president of the Harvard Law Review unless you are a very intelligent person, which Obama has demonstrated in spades AGAIN tonight.
Even though I disagree with him on almost all issues, I admire his life story, honesty and intellect.
good night all.
Night RealImmigrantChick
still alive soap…barely.
Looks like Tim Russert is taking a line from “Speed.” “Pop Quiz, hero …” LOL
Best dem debate yet this silly season.
I am recording this and not watching it now,,,
And I love Michelle’s comments!!
Keep it up!
AJ,
We will be ready for that wake-up rant in the morning!
Continuing on the shark theme:
This all could be settled with the shark test. Take two sharks and have each one bite a candidate. If the shark does not die, that should be the Dem. candidate.
Sorry …
Fixed it.
Chuck,
Michelle is in great form.
Must be the Red Bulls followed but the No-Doze and double espressos!!
MM Thank you for your long service. I could not have stood to watch it.
ok, c’mon tear! and two cackles….
RealImmigrantChick said:
But she did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night!
I was just about to say the same thing AJ. LOL
AJ…lost track of the roll of the eyes. Did you count any?
Had some tough questions. Not a bad debate at all I would say.
booooooooooooooo!!!
i think the glares won it.
Obama will bring the country together in a unique way - he will make us all poor!
really liked Obama’s answer about why he did not do more regarding NATO’s involvement in Afghanistan seeing how he is Chairman of that particular subcommittee. You see, he just received the appointment when he started to run for president. In other words, he could not do his job while looking for a new job.
Yeah, that works in the real world.
More like that….
A look at a grim future.
Nothing there for me.
Mighty sad business.
That would be the NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPION COLORADO ROCKIES!
I can’t wait either.
I’m not sure I’ll make it to Tucson this year…big bummer.
Go ROX, and…
THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the WORLD SERIES LAST OCTOBER.
Hillary blaming Bush for her not disclosing her tax returns.
That made me Cackle!
I still intend to do everything I can to win.
That one gives me chills..
You’ve got 2 power-obsessed socialists here. Too bad it’s 2008 and not 1808. Give them 2 pistols, take 10 paces, turn and fire. End of primaries and debates.
Nothing about Illegals….again?
No, Gayle. You know they need their “votes” come Election Day. Can’t say anything negative or the immigration groups might get upset. The democrats are looking forward to welcoming them as new supporters.
Michelle, I feel like we owe you a steak dinner for not only having to sit through that torturous debate but to blog it live! Thanks.
lol, good one gayle. I know you didnt think there would be, did you?
the first 16 minutes were on health care. not even a whisper on immigration or secure borders, fence, etc.
Hillary will never be president. It’s virtually impossible to be taken seriously after seeing how much freaking make-up she used!
Oh my goodness! The applicator brushes were tossed aside in favor of trowels. A painted peacock would be bland next to her techno-color pallet of pancake-like materials and putty.
Oooooh Weeeeeee! I’m sorry but neither of these turds will ever hold a dull luster, the best one can hope to achieve in a polishing contest.
Obama: “One nation under God, indivisible with liberty, except all you neo-cons go stand over there, and justice for all.”
Too many of his speeches BO is flame throwing. This guy isn’t a uniter he’s a divider.
I’m going to go out on a limb here (not really) and say it was a “threat” on which she will “promise” to deliver.
I missed the debate last night. Thanks for the record of it, Michelle. I couldn’t stomach more than a few minutes of their last one and saw no need to attempt this one last night.
They call these things a “debate”????!!! More like the same talking points we’ve heard 1000 times before. “I voted against the Iraq war” blah blah blah
Blech
I hope HRC turned it around last night - i think she bettered BHO. I can’t imagine anything worse than BHO as POTUS.
My favorite exchange of the night came when Russert was grilling them on different hypotheticals about how they would deal with certain situations arising in Iraq. Hillary came back and said “Tim, you are throwing out a lot of hypotheticals”, and refused to answer his questions. Well, if she were elected POTUS, God help us, wouldn’t she have to deal with these sorts of hypotheticals? Isn’t it helpful to American voters to have some insight into how she would go about dealing with these questions? I’m kind of with Rush on this. Let these two squabble as long as they can and then send ultra liberal Obama into the general election. Granted I wish we had a stronger conservative candidate, but I still think Obama’s liberal stances and his baggage which isn’t quite known yet will be a drag on him come November.
Thanks Michelle. But I don’t feel sorry for you because I know you had your huge bag of corn twists and diet coke during the whole sordid mess.
Michelle,
Thanks for doing the hard work so that we don’t have to cover our ears when Hilly cackles. Did we get ever get a total cackle count for the evening? How many times were the following words mentioned: hope, change, unity?
Anything mentioned about term limits? You know since these two empty vessels want change and all. Anything mentioned on how much either of their health care plans are going to cost us?
Any catchy slogans? I’ve thought of the following: Taking care of illegals so that Mexico doesn’t have to. We care!
Thanks Michelle! You stomached what I could not. Looks like I didn’t miss much other than the same worn out talking points. The only difference I see between the two is the level of destruction they will do to our nation’s security, our sovereignty, our freedoms and the economy.
re: Hillary. I noticed at the end of the debate when she stood up that she has a very, very large ass. I mean, even wider than I thought. It was rather astounding.
Marty Davis was blogging about Tim Russerts approach to last night’s dem debate. My take he had his tomhawk out.
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2008/02/one-dead-in-o-hi-o.html
Oh that comment she referred to the SNL skit the new Clinton Campaign Motto “It’s the Satire Stupid” It was also untrue they are even on getting the first question each time this time it was her turn. Puleeze, Obama: Oh no I insist Ladys first
Hillary looks behind her, she can’t figure out who he is talking to 
I would would like someone to do a poll - how many people would like a “do over” for their parties presidental candidate. Is anyone really happy with what they have? We don’t like McCain, and I can’t believe the dems really like Obama, they just hate Hill and Bill more
YES lets do a do over. Can we start today?
Texas Tiger:
Gotta tell you I’ve never laughed so hard in my entire life until I saw that Obama nation video. Don’t ever stop posting that sucker… especially on a day when we lost one of our best… Mr. Buckley.
Whoever coined Obamanation must be thinking of abomination.